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681  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A opinion on regrets on: July 07, 2023, 06:12:15 PM
We regret about missing Bitcoin, then about XRP then about Ethereum then Doge then Shiba then Pepe (these are some top of my head and from what I've come across in my crypto term).

Point being there are always new opportunities and dwelling on regrets is futile.
Damn true 100% I'm currently going through a phase like what you're going through and it's even worse losing 95% of my portfolio, to the point of severe stress, maybe it's almost depression. But now I'm trying again to get up, even though it's very difficult, sometimes the feeling of trauma comes suddenly.

The biggest and noblest capital in life is experience, from that experience it becomes something that can sustain all life to bounce back and continue to learn from mistakes. Think of it as knowledge and life lessons so that it doesn't happen again. Of course, emotions have a big influence on making investment decisions. From that mistake, I had to learn to control my emotions to be better in the future.
682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Avoid Procrastination, Buy Bitcoin And Prepare For The Next Halving. on: July 07, 2023, 05:55:44 PM
I love the thread title you created, Don't delay buying bitcoins to prepare for the halving, great advice. even though the halving is still a long way off and there is still a lot of drama that will occur before the halving, in essence, we shouldn't panic. Keep doing the DCA strategy because I think this is the mainstay strategy.

Keep remembering the main keyword in managing finances, set aside 10% of our income for DCA. It means we are ready to lose with that 10%. If we get it, that's the result of our efforts, even if there is a price reduction, we are ready with the 10% money earlier. Keep the spirit friends to prepare for the halving and don't invest in bitcoin using borrowed money.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 06, 2023, 07:48:59 PM
Pep Guardiola has done a very good job so far. Pep has proven that when Manchester City win the Premier League in the 2021-22 season, things like that also spread, but the Manchester City coach proved they could maintain team stability and it was proven that Manchester City managed to defend the Premier League title in the 2022-23 season
I have no doubts in saying that Man City is capable of defending the EPL title again next season. We can see that since being coached by Pep Guardiola, Man City has become the strongest and most consistent team in every season. We have to admit that there are many strong teams, but to consistently get a trophy every season is very rare, especially in the EPL league.

Pep Guardiola being able to defend 3 Epl trophies in 3 consecutive years is an extraordinary achievement. Man City also holds the record, highest epl points, most goals in 1 epl season, Most fertile striker in one season, most wins in 1 season, Man City set many historic records with Pep Guardiola. So I still believe Man City can still defend the EPL title next season considering the players brought in by Man City are quite convincing.
684  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'm officially not a newbie anymore!!! on: July 06, 2023, 07:33:22 PM
I'm happy to say that I am no longer in the newbie rank. I can remember being ashamed of the newbie rank glaring on my profile. I soon got used to it and then ignored it and focused on growing my knowledge on btc and crypto in general. I can say I've learnt a whole lot with loads more to learn. Learning is a continuous process and I look forward to growing in continuous knowledge and information sharing here in the forum.
Why do you feel embarrassed to be a beginner? Aren't all the members here starting from beginners? You have to get rid of any shame about your account ranking, because as a result later it will be very difficult for you to adapt to this forum and in the end it will be difficult for you to grow because you feel ashamed because you feel that your ranking is still low. Besides, contributing to this forum is not only seen from the account ranking, even if you post various knowledge and continue to contribute you will be the most important part in this forum.

The key to keep growing in this forum is to keep learning and don't be lazy to read. Try to combine consistency, concentration and focus to achieve goals. At least this consistency can approach the target of the goal setting you want in this forum.
685  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do when you have Financial Freedom? on: July 06, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
Consider yourself already have financial freedom at this time. That is, you already have passive income that continues to flow into your account and into your wallet without the hassle of managing your business. because your business and all your companies are managed by someone you trust to manage it. So you just need to sit back or take a vacation every day while enjoying the flow of money that continues to enter your pocket.

Now my question in such a situation is when you already have financial freedom. then what are you going to do to enjoy your life and enjoy that financial freedom?
Having financial freedom I think is everyone's dream and of course to achieve financial freedom requires a long struggle. Even though right now I haven't reached that point yet, but if you tell me to imagine if I already have financial freedom, of course the most important thing I do is when I'm finally financially free, I will help the people around me first (read: parents, younger siblings , uncles, aunts, family) because of course they see us as a gold mine, somehow they have played an important role in my journey to success, so they deserve a good share of what I have achieved.

Of course I will put in some of my funds to buy bitcoin with the DCA strategy and lastly to open a business because this is also important so that our funds continue to rotate in positive terms for a more established future.
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Without money, the knowledge is a waste on: July 06, 2023, 05:39:20 PM
Yes!
you got the topic very correct and I do mean it because after my last thread, I was actually wondering  the essences of having all the knowledge  about bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large and still don't have the money to buy, I just feel its a waste of effort and such a person  with all his knowledge  will definitely miss out of the opportunities in bitcoin and I'm  on the opinion  that people still need to always have some form of money at all time to buy bitcoin especially  at every instance a dip arises and I want to know the essence of wanting to crowd ones brain Brain with so much about bitcoin  when such a person doesn't have any more to buy rather than seeking ways to buy?
What is certain is that no knowledge is wasted, because knowledge will give you strength in any and all situations including investing in bitcoin because without investment knowledge it will also be in vain. Money does give you influence but only to a certain extent. So, Science is stronger when it is followed up in terms of investment. Money like most things can be taken from us just like that, especially when investing is full of risks. One thing no one can take away from you once you have acquired it is knowledge.

In the world of Crypto both are really needed with money we can buy bitcoins and with knowledge we can analyze the market, to collect Profits what is needed is to have both. Basically money comes and goes, but knowledge never fades.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 05, 2023, 06:33:00 PM
I would say it was lack of chances and all the rotating players that kinda lose Mount his form. I still think Mount is a great buy for United but where he will play, I mean position in the lineup is a big question to me. Now they have spent 60m Euro on the player then that definitely means that they were really serious about the player so I am kinda curious on how ten Haag will use him. His role and his position needs to be right in order to squeeze best out of him.
Even though next season he is already a free agent and Mason Mount wants to wait, but you know Man United always pays expensive players. All players associated with Man United were immediately increased in price by the selling club. Even a journalist like Fabrizio Romano. Ever said. All player transfer info related to Man United, views and other things automatically increase rapidly.

The arrival of Mason Mount has been great for this season's ETH squad to compete with Man City. The presence of Mason Mount could be a substitute for Bruno / Eriksen or Mason Mount would not be a back-up but it was Eriksen who would actually be a back-up. Mason Mount can be installed as a double pivot, left wing and AMF or back up Bruno Fernandes. But as usual, Man United has always been extravagant to spend on players, different from the Fergie era. Fergie's purchase of players is relatively cheap.
688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 05, 2023, 06:11:53 PM
Even though Atletico Madrid are not the favorite team in La Liga, but I have seen them really able to make La Liga competition better. If Atletico Madrid is too weak, then La Liga becomes very boring due to the dominance of Real Madrid and Barcelona. We have had Atletico Madrid win titles with Diego Simeone in recent seasons, but many times they are just Champions League contenders instead of winning titles.

If all La Liga teams could have a lot of budget to build a quality team, then this league rating would be better. The Premier League is better because of the financial condition of its teams, while La Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga and Serie A are not any better than them.
Yes, I agree with you. For me, even though Atletico Madrid is not the favorite team to win Laliga, every season puts pressure on Real Madrid and Barcelona, even in the Champions League. And this is very natural if Atletico Madrid find it difficult to compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona because they like to sell star players, but what's great is that Atletico Madrid remains club-oriented, still looking for titles. This is very different from most other clubs, they often sell players only thinking about money but cannot compete in terms of winning trophies.

If I look at Atletico Madrid where the great strikers shine and it is appropriate that in my opinion it is called a great team. This is very different from other clubs, I take an example like Chelsea where many great strikers have faded. there are the names Hernan crespo, Mateja Kezman, Arjen robben, Andry sevchenko, Moh Salah, Claudio Fizzaro, Fernando Torres, Radamel Falcao, Alvaro moratta, Timo Werner and Romelu Lukaku so far.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: Quit borrowing on: July 05, 2023, 05:34:15 PM
In most cases one can't do without acquiring a loan but one should stop getting loan for unnecessary things
It's not the pleasure of being in debt or the habit of being in debt. Many people who are in debt certainly want to have all their needs fulfilled without being in debt. But sometimes there are circumstances that force you to be in debt, until it eventually spreads to other debts and in the end you have a lot of debt.

What you say is true, if someone is in debt just to fulfill a lifestyle that is a very stupid action. But there are some debts that need to be done if we do business, because having debt for doing business is commonplace because our money is rotating so that we get the advantage of repaying debt or paying every month. Another mistake people owe so that the debt becomes negative is in debt but he has no income so that the term dig a hole to close a hole occurs because he pays off debt by getting in debt again.
690  Economy / Economics / Re: What roles does the poor play in the Economy? on: July 05, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
If a country has a lot of poor people, then it is definitely the government's fault, they are not only greedy but also foolish, so they do not bring any benefit to their people. But if only a small part of the people are poor, it is not entirely the government's fault, but it may be because those people are lazy. Because the government won't have enough money and resources to distribute everything for free, what they can do is create jobs for everyone, and we need to seize our opportunities. If we are lazy and only expect support packages from the government, it is our fault that we become poor.
Yes, I totally agree with your opinion. In any country, there must be poor people, even if it is a rich country. Everything depends on each person himself. Poverty will always exist in any developed country, because poverty is a problem that is not only related to work, but also mentality. Indeed, there are several countries where there is a lot of poverty due to the failure of the government to prosper its people.

I've read about geographic politics
Whereas countries or regions that have abundant natural resources are usually lazy, because they feel they don't have to work hard to get what they need. Meanwhile, countries with minimal natural resources will try hard to meet their needs, as a result they become accustomed to working hard and don't want to get into trouble because they know what problems mean.
A small example is a country with subtropics or winter will think of looking for food before winter arrives. Stock up on food for months to keep him cool through the winter. Meanwhile, tropical countries do not think to do that because natural resources and food stocks tend to be abundant, so they are used to working hard.
691  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Politik Saling Serang/Politik Indentitas on: July 03, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
Nah itu dia om, Setiap pergantian presiden pasti ada aja yang terlibat korupsi,muak g si liatnya ex: Hambalang dll (Uang pajak rakyat di Kemplang gitu aja) . Belum ada presiden atau Anggota Dpr di negeri ini yang berani mensahkan hukumam Mati dan Perampasan Aset para pejabat. Kalau hukuma mati dengan alasan Ham , perampasan aset banyak problem di dalam nya untuk mensahkan nya, mungkin kalau hukum ini di sahkan pasti ada efek nya buat negeri ini.

Namun, bukan berarti kita tidak bisa melakukan apa pun untuk mengatasi korupsi. Sebagai masyarakat, kita dapat memperkuat kesadaran (Anti Korupsi) dan memperjuangkan reformasi sistem pemerintahan yang lebih transparan dan akuntabel. Selain itu, kita juga dapat meningkatkan partisipasi dalam pengawasan publik terhadap kinerja pemerintah dan Saat memilih pemimpin nanti harus yang memiliki rekam jejak yang baik (Anti Korupsi,Jujur,Kerja Nyata bukan kata kata). Dengan Melihat Kepuasan Publik waktu Menjabat di Daerah masing masing itu juga menjadi nilai Tambah Plus (+).

Dan untuk wakil rakyat Seperti DPR, DPD, DPRD ini perlu engga si di bubarkan?
Mereka hanya janji manis dan ngemis suara di awal, lupa semuanya kalau sudah menjabat. Tidak mencerminkan mewakili rakyatnya.
Pada sadar tidak, koruptor-koruptor itu cerminan dari rakyat itu sendiri, cuma bedanya koruptor dia dapet kesempatan untuk korupsi duduk di kekuasaan dan melanggengkannya dan rakyat biasa tidak dapat kesempatan tersebut. Jadi menurut saya, Untuk menghilangkan korupsi tidak cuma sekedar menangkap koruptor dan dihukum yang berat. Kalaupun hukuman dari korupsi di bikin  semakin berat, para koruptor pasti bakal muter otak lagi gimana caranya supaya tetep bisa korupsi tanpa harus ketahuan dan dihukum.

Jadi untuk menghilangkan budaya korupsi di pemerintahan, harus diawali dari menghilangkan budaya korupsi di lingkungan masyarakat, contoh seperti mengajarkan anak anak untuk lebih disiplin, giat dan jujur. Hal kecil seperti ini bisa lebih efektif untuk mengurangi tingkat korupsi dimasa depan. Karena yang harus diperbaiki bukanlah langkah pasca kejadian, tapi pencegahan sebelum kejadian.
692  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ São Paulo FC ⚽ Prediction Contest ⚽ (Wednesday, July 5) on: July 01, 2023, 11:34:29 AM
a.  SPFC
b.  Over
c.  3-1
d.  Yes
e.  16'
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 01, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.
Many say Pep Guardiola can only coach big teams and big funds, of course that has pros and cons, but apart from that, for me personally, he is the best coach in the world.

he was appointed coach of Barcelona at the start of the 2008-2009 season, which was a very brave decision by removing Ronaldinho, who at that time was a club icon and placing the burden on Messi's shoulders, who was still very young at that time.
In the previous season at the hands of Rijkaard, Barcelona had a bad season, finishing in 3rd place under Madrid and Villareal.
With all the conditions at that time, there were many doubts about Pep Guardiola, who incidentally lacked experience. Until the first 2 matches of the 2008-2009 season, Barcelona could only win 1 point in the first 2 matches of the league, making it even more difficult for Pep Guardiola. until finally it got better, and Barcelona continued to be consistent and the rest is history.

then he chose Bayern, which is clearly a big team, but Bayern is not the type of club that likes to spend money buying expensive players. Even though he failed to bring the UCL to Bayern, he cannot be considered a failure. then he went to Man city, and what happened like now. Man City dominates England, and succeeds in winning the UCL. he's a coach who builds the identity of a team. in his hands, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City are teams to be feared and have captivating games.

if he chose established teams, with all the achievements in his previous team, surely many established teams would want his services.
694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 01, 2023, 09:48:55 AM
Mason Mount is a young player with great potential and I think Manchester United are very lucky to get him, at the age of 24 it is possible for this player to contribute big and long to the team and can even be a good investment in the future.
Mason Mount is a Chelsea player who has amazing statistics on Chelsea's high press defense game during the Tuchel era.. His pressing and counter pressing statistics are high.. Mount has excellent pass through ball techniques, cool free kicks and good corner kick techniques... Agility his game was required in the Eth-era Man United Team. Still young, 55 million pounds plus adds on 5 million pounds. Is a good bargain for Man United.

In my opinion, Bruno will play in Eriksen's position, while Mount will play behind Striker. Bruno will start the build-up of attacks from behind because Bruno is a typical playmaker so he is the one who flows the ball from the back to the front, while Mount will move freely behind the strikers looking for and opening space and has a high enough scoring instinct so he can score goals when the strikers experience stalemate to score a goal.
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We All Know, The halving time will be full of drama on: July 01, 2023, 09:22:13 AM
From the first bitcoin at $0.000.... Until BTC at $69.000, there is always FUD news. And now with the SEC Issues with binance I really believe this is just another FUD too.
The more FUD the better.. And bitcoin will never Finish.... It's always going Higher, and much Higher. Sorry, I "Don't care for drama", and always DCA continues... Drama is always there for us to sell bitcoin out of panic, instead they buy because they know a halving is approaching. Therefore, be wise in making decisions on your investment. The saying I've always stuck to is That when there's bad news about bitcoin in the media, it means the price of bitcoin goes up.
696  Economy / Economics / Re: Landed properties is the best investment on: July 01, 2023, 09:00:16 AM
And also the safest investment or very minimal risk. Because it is very rare for land prices to decrease unless there is a war or prolonged conflict that makes landlords want to go and sell cheaply.
You are right, Land Investment is the safest because the risk is also small. And what is certain is that the increase in land prices tends to increase every year. Apart from many factors, one of which is inflation, other things are also affected because there is less and less vacant land. However, the population will continue to increase and development will continue to increase, so that many people need land or land. In the end if we own the land it will be very profitable in the future.

The percentage increase in land prices usually depends on the location of the land, the more strategic the place, the more profitable it is. in General, the increase reaches 20 to 25%. However, if the land is in a strategic or developing area that has access and has good infrastructure, the increase could reach 100% to 300% within a few years.

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In fact, I think everyone wants to own a large area of ​​land. But with the current high prices, only a few can afford to invest in land property or land real estate.
Land investment is of course much in the interest of many people but requires relatively large capital. Therefore, in my opinion, this type of land investment is not a suitable investment instrument for novice investors. When starting an investment, of course, we are looking for large amounts of profit in a short time, this is often present in our minds and heads. so we also decided to look for land and property investment assets in strategic locations or areas. Of course, with little capital, our wishes will be difficult to realize. Likewise, if we choose to look for land assets in other areas that are less strategic, this is also not promising for us to get benefits that match our expectations.
697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 29, 2023, 08:33:50 PM
Next year Modric will be 38 years old, it is possible for Modric to accept an offer from an Arab club if the offer really comes for him. Modric condition which is still fit, reminds me of Ibrahimovic, even though he is old, he is still able to play the full 90 minutes. Even though he was already a Real Madrid legend and it was an honor to retire as a Real Madrid player, it wasn't too bad for him to spend the rest of his career in the Arab League while earning a lot of money there.

Modric has the Ballon d'Or plus the huge amount of titles he's won with Real Madrid plus he's a Croatian national team legend. In general, he is a big brand and I think that he is guaranteed a fat contract in a year. So turning down the offer this year he did the right thing - he'll have one more season of "serious" football with Real Madrid and then play for a few more years just for the money.
Luca Modric has signed a one-year contract for Real Madrid and will now become the second oldest playing footballer in the history of the Real Madrid club after Puskas. In my opinion, this is the right choice made by Modric considering that some Real Madrid midfielders are still young and still lack experience, maybe with Modric and Kroos it will help them to continue to develop after that Modric and kroor will leave Real Madrid happy to accept Saudi Arabian club offer to collect the coffers of money in their old age.

Now Real Madrid have Modric, Bellingham, Kroos, Valverde, Camavinga, Dani Ceballos and Aurélien Tchouameni. So many options for Real Madrid's midfield next season but will this be enough for them to win the UCL next year? I hope that Real Madrid will get certainty from Mbappe so that this Club will be even more perfect.
698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 29, 2023, 08:07:20 PM
about Brazil, there's a point too that in 2002 Brazil's team was much better than the teams that came afterwards
of course this counts too

since them we had 5 cups...
yes, it's been a while.

let's see what happens in the next one
It will be interesting if you see Brazil's chances at the 2026 World Cup, can they bring the trophy for the sixth time? Because the news circulating is that coach Carlo Ancelotti will coach the Brazilian team after his contract at Real Madrid ends. I think He has really won everything there is to win at club level throughout his career, he won 4 league titles, and was a league winner in 5 different countries so he has won everything in his club managerial career and coaching the Brazilian national team.

Can he finally end their World Cup drought in 2026 he is an elite manager and has longevity as head coach and lots of success too mostly in champions league and he is expert in knockout football and his managerial experience can help Brazil with studded squad star.

So far I see Carlo Ancelotti coaching Brazil is the right choice because he's the perfect manager with what he does in knockout football.
699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the best career for women on: June 29, 2023, 07:54:13 PM
Bitcoin's popularity is increasing day by day. Now in today's society both men and women are working shoulder to shoulder together in the office. No exception to this, women are also very interested in Bitcoin and current Bitcoin. The reason for interest is that when a woman works in an office, it becomes a bit difficult for her to juggle family and children. In today's society we see many working women leave their children with the workers and go to office, those children are abused by the workers. I think all the sisters who have chosen this bitcoin as their profession should not face such problems. Because after all the children's work and household chores, there will be enough time to devote to bitcoins. So choosing Bitcoin as a career can be a good decision for girls.
What must be straightened out first is that bitcoin is not a career or job, bitcoin is a digital asset. It would be wise if you use bitcoin as additional income, not as a job. And in the crypto world, it's not just for men, but for everyone who wants to learn and try, including women. So, Here there is no difference between genders.

Since Bitcoin is a tradable digital currency, it's no wonder that many are interested in trading bitcoins for profit. If you look at every new project or investor you can see there are a lot of women in it. This proves that gender has no boundaries in cryptocurrency technology.
700  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Lagi dan Lagi, Sawit Indonesia Dijegal oleh Uni Eropa on: June 29, 2023, 07:17:00 PM
Salam teman-teman

Info terbaru bahwa sawit Indonesia dijegal oleh Uni Eropa, setelah sebelumnya CPO juga mereka jegal. Sebenarnya ada apa ini? Apa indonesia sudah di anggap berbahaya sehingga mereka berusaha menghalang-halangi Indonesia menjadi negara yang lebih baik?
Ini sudah kesekian kalinya Eropa terus ikut campur soal sawit di indonesia. Alasan utamanya tidak lain karena persaingan bisnis, karena Indonesia penghasil minyak sawit terbesar. Maka dari itu sudah pasti minyak nabati Eropa seperti minyak dari rapeseed, kedelai, maupun bunga matahari kalah dibandingkan minyak sawit. Salah satu penyebab minyak sawit lebih murah adalah karena produktivitasnya tinggi. Karena itu Eropa tidak mungkin menang bersaing secara harga.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20230627155653-4-449753/bukan-kini-saja-eropa-ternyata-sudah-lama-usil-soal-sawit-ri

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbyPmvw09h8

Setelah sebelumnya Indonesia berseteru dengan Uni Eropa terkait CPO, kemudian Nikkel, sekarang produksi sawit pun sedang di persulit. Apakah Indonesia sudah memiliki posisi yang baik sehingga sudah berani perang dagang dengan Uni Eropa?

Isu yang di angkat adalah produksi sawit yang tidak ramah lingkungan dan lainya.
Memiliki posisi baik atau tidak, sudah seharusnya Indonesia harus tegas kepada negara-negara eropa dan jangan pernah takut ancaman negara manapun, Indonesia harus berani buat prusahaan-perubahan baru untuk pengelolaan sawit khusus di dalam negri.

Karena saya yakin Indonesia pasti bisa, apalagi Indonesia termasuk salah satu penghasil sawit terbesar di dunia setelah Malaysia. Tentunya ini membuat negara-negara eropa gerah dengan membawa isu masalah kerusakan lingkungan, tentunya mereka punya maksud yang lain. Lagian kalau dana pembangunan perusahaan baru di ambil dari keuntungan-keuntungan usaha BUMN dan pajak lainnya, masyarakat pasti akan mendukung kebijakan tersebut yang penting tujuannya untuk kemakmuran Bangsa Indonesia dan masyarakatnya agar tidak terus ketergantungan sama pihak usaha asing.

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Ada lima alasan Parlemen Uni Eropa mengeluarkan kebijakan larangan impor CPO dan produk turunannya, yaitu industri sawit menciptakan deforestasi, degradasi habitat satwa, korupsi, mempekerjakan anak, dan pelanggaran hak asasi manusia (HAM)

Source:
https://igj.or.id/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CPO-Indonesia-ditolak-Uni-Eropa_Palm-Oil-Issues.pdf

Bagaimana menurut teman-teman? Apakah ini murni karena urusan lingkungan? antau ada Intrik dan kepentingan sehingga Uni Eropa menjegal produksi sawit Indonesia?


Sederet Bukti Ternyata Sawit RI Tak Seburuk Tuduhan Eropa
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Mengutip dalam catatan yang ditulis GAPKI pada website-nya, tuduhan deforestasi yang digaungkan Eropa kepada sawit Indonesia tidak tepat. Terlebih pemahaman definisi hutan yang Eropa pahami berbeda dengan yang ada di Indonesia.

Di Indonesia sendiri, menurut GAPKI didefinisikan sebagai suatu hamparan lahan yang di dominasi pepohonan dan juga kawasan yang secara administrasi ditetapkan sebagai hutan.
Sedangkan FAO yang diadopsi Eropa menyatakan hutan sebagai lahan dengan luas minimal 0,5 ha dengan ketinggian minimal 5 meter dan membentuk kanopi lebih dari 10%.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/research/20230627125035-128-449663/sederet-bukti-ternyata-sawit-ri-tak-seburuk-tuduhan-eropa
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