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161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm panicking, tell me it will be OK... on: July 12, 2017, 08:26:48 AM
whether you sell to fiat, change to alt (which is down as well), HODL for long term to have it recovered later, hedge it with short future contracts are all depends on what you want, and your strategy.  But at least for now, btc and altcoin are in bearish trend.
Sometimes coming out of holding and waiting for big bottom prices to enter back will be working better than simply holding and waiting. But selling off also will lead to disappointment when prices quickly jumping back to next rally. Probably risking half of holding by selling and waiting to buy back will be the right suggestion imho.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CVC] CIVIC Tokensale :: 21 June on: July 12, 2017, 06:03:23 AM
They're smart for running the campaigns well after the release, and more new, good ideas like this ought to do likewise if they have the money for it.  It's just good business sense IMO.  I'm grateful they're allowing me to participate whilst it's still going on.  Thanks Civic & edwardard!
The long term projects are always focusing on gaining continuous patronage from this community and for this reason they love keeping their different campaigns alive. Civic is focusing on our everyday life hence it might need to get familiar as much as possible that will be playing a core roles for taking it into every crypto aspirants as well rest of people who are yet to enter into crypto world. It is more than business as it must be an integral part for finding success !
163  Economy / Economics / Re: Unrestricted Banking and Problem Banking on: July 09, 2017, 07:51:11 PM
@bobk71 - it looks like a race between increasing interest rates and
faster circulation of money in the world economies. Which will win?

Hard to tell, I guess.  You could say circulation will always win, by design of a basically inflationary system.

But we have to beware also of the imperative to maintain confidence of the elite-issued assets, in order to maintain their power.  Central banks are only human, and they might unintentionally cause an asset price and economic implosion by hiking interest rates too fast (e.g. 1927.)  If they don't, this time, they are increasing the scope for such an error next time.

This feature is built straight into the core of the system.

The reason is that, we have a fundamentally centrally planned economy in this world.  In such an economy, misallocation of capital is built-in.  And as the incentives drive more misallocation and complexity, there will be more scope for unpredictability and instability.
One of the best advantages of using the bitcoin or crypto-currency software is that it is de-centralized. It is a huge advantage to traders as transactions remain anonymous and secure and they are not easy to track. Bitcoin is one of the most used crypo-currency in the world. Bitcoin has authority to do everything in a market because it is totally decentralized and neither it’s controlling by people that’s why we are taking side of bitcoin.
164  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: July 09, 2017, 11:07:58 AM
For 2018, I predict $3,200 per bitcoin

For 2019, I don't predict an incrase, it will be around $3,000-3,500

For 2020 which is the halving time, I predict $7,000 per bitcoin. Then the next target will be $10,000 I guess.

Wow! that's sound a hell of a prediction but i don't thing the bitcoin price will go that far in the future as it seems impossible because there are lot of factors which determine the price and there is also possibility that bitcoin price may not increase in future so it is very difficult to predict the trend and price of bitcoin.
To predict the price of bitcoin is not easy, in fact, we could say it is almost a useless thing to do since it is so difficult and there are so many factors not allowing us to make accurate prediction, however there are two factors that will make the price grow, one is the activation of segwit and the next will be the halving so I think it is safe to think that the future of bitcoin in regards the price looks very bright.
Bitcoin will bring change to our lives very soon, government might take control of bit cons as it is rapidly getting famous in every country.
Until now, there is no had and fast rule implied by the state but when it will become more powerful, then the state might imply some rules according to their benefits which they can earn from bitcoins.
165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: July 09, 2017, 08:11:57 AM
yes i think that Bitcoin is truly making a difference in the usage accessibility of currency.
If we talk about the internet, Bitcoin has taken over all the online payment systems and in the near future it will be the only crypto currency used by the world for online shopping, I believe.

But talking about outside the internet, I agree that the government will be putting some hurdles in the beginning and what they need is , taxes and stuff. Even then I think that the Bitcoin will mostly be used instead of paper money.
166  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i want invest money in cloud mining on: July 08, 2017, 08:19:32 PM
This is a better method than cloud mining =D

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Mining is not liked by many people, they think it is a trap and very easy way to lose your money. But there are hundreds of bitcoin miners who are making money day by day. Normally to get profits it is good to do bitcoin mining on big scales. Small scale mining systems are not appreciated that much because they more power compared to the profits they provide. So to start on a large scale would be a great idea to get handful of money out of you bitcoin mining.
167  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: July 08, 2017, 07:52:26 PM
In the virtual world I guess it is, it has along way to go to be the strongest in the real world.

  yes you are right bitcoin is the strongest currency of all the cryptocurrencies and no one other cryptocurrency can beat bitcoin and it is the most established currency of the digital and virtual world but in the real currency it is not the strongest currency because it is not known by all the people still it needs a lot of popularity.
well I agree with you that now bitcoin has become the most commend and well wanted currency its demand is now very high and all the countries are asking for it to invest in it and take it as best trading option for them and for the people of their country.
168  Economy / Services / Re: Civic Signature & Avatar Campaign | Full members to Legendaries | [CFNP] on: July 07, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
Payments have been sent for the third round: 58a29c613fafc6321035342aa94c153322d4efff1bb1fc0d070c6b982ccbf10f
Thank you very much for another prompt payments !
169  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Wallet that doesn't require ID and other stuff on: July 07, 2017, 07:36:40 AM
No wallet should ask you about identity verification, it is the exchanges which do so. Please understand the difference between an exchange and a wallet before jumping in.
Wallet providers follow the practices of demanding identity verification after crossing some volume of transactions. If you are a small player then you can enjoy online wallets without need of submitting your documents.
170  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: July 06, 2017, 07:51:30 PM
Either bitcoins or altcoins I sell when I am making some good profits from it as holding too long can be risky as price may crash in coming days so its better to sell them and wait again for the price drop so that you can buy them back at lower price and you need to repeat this cycle again and again to make regular profits.
Many people have made much money during the recent years. The thing which matters is planning. If you have planned to gain by investing into bitcoin you will surely gain the best profit. Firstly, thinking of the downfall of the exchange rate of bitcoin is stupidity.

Because it has increased a lot. If you suppose that its worth becomes down due to any issue, remember it will definitely move back to its higher exchange rate because of the growing significance of bitcoin in the whole world. So, investing for a longer time definitely helps you to gain profit and become richer eventually.
171  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: July 06, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
Is it possible to earn 1000 or atleast 100 bitcoins with trading Altcoins.If I buy some bitcoin at cheaper rate today and it's price goes up in future?Which alt you think has potential to make me 1000 btc

if future bitcoin down?  Shocked hahaha.... Your big loss
but if you want save bitcoin on your pocket. buy on 280-300$ bitcoin price rate
Nope, I don’t agree with this statement that bitcoin will go low in future. It has a very fine and bright future. Bitcoin may fall in value but its future is not bleak. It’s not impossible to make 10x bitcoins by buying few bitcoins at cheaper rate today.

Trading is not gambling where you will encounter a big loss. Just with good knowledge of crypto market, mathematics and some discussions with experts can help you in making your dream come true. Bitcoins have really got great potential and soon it will be ruling the world.
172  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will up. dont worrry on: July 06, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
well from past couple of weeks we have seen btc price going down,don't warrry btc wiil up.and I think it's time to invest now and wait for the bitcoin price increase.

If you want to do short term trading then it's a time to buy, if you're a long term holder then it's a time to buy, all in all, it's always a time to buy Bitcoins. The price will go up, may not be right now but definitely in the future. People just do panic selling without the knowledge of how Bitcoin works. Some are worried about segwit but IMO it'll be better after segwit.
How is it the time to buy for both the short and long term investment and trading?
I think while typing this you were high or what.

It is good to be realistic more than living in the world of dreams. When the prices are persistently falling down how and why someone will invest during this time while knowing that the price is going to drop even.

For a long term investment it makes a sense but for short term no way. It will be just drowning your money and nothing else.
173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a source of income? on: July 06, 2017, 05:42:23 AM
I can't really see any cryptocurrency being an efficient source of income. The price fluctuates way too much. One day you could have 50,000$ in a certain coin and the next day you're flat broke and can't pay bills. Of course it would work if you were very, very good at predicting the price of the coin so you can exchange when you feel the price way going down, or get more Bitcoin when you think it is going to go up, but you'd already most likely been in luck for a stable job if you were good enough at that. Smiley
Suppose if you saying that in an inefficient source of income ?
Let me give an example if you are interesting in these coins and want to take risk to become a millionaire. So you would go for bitcoin.

Because bitcoin has changed the history. Bitcoin has the changed the life of people. If those who has invested into other altcoins which is turn into scam so it's their fault to trust those altcoins. Bitcoin is trusted and it has gained a lot of people in a few years.
Bitcoin is a reliable and authentic way of earning money. Have a look around yourself. You will see many lives being changed just because of this, especially you will see a positive change in one's life.
If it was such a risky or a scam, people at such large amount wouldn't dare to invest all of their property or money.
174  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: July 05, 2017, 07:53:56 PM
By way of investing but of course the accuracy and patience is very necessary, given the value of bitcoin is still not stable,
LOL. If you do not have money, you can not invest in anything. Therefore, you should find a good job and start earning money right now so that you can have money to develop

its better to have capital to gain more advantage on earning, yet we can still start without it by working on here like in marketplace or in joining campaigns.

yeah doing signature campaigns would be the best way for me to have s decent capital for trading. try to do signature for a month or two and save your earnings and you would already have a good capitsl you can use to start a decent trade without depositing your own money. Cheesy

Yeah, most of the people here done the same thing. Though not all of them are quite successful because the thingis they do not know how to put their money interested  something, in other words they are inexperienced persons. That is why they are sticking here in the forum to get another shot. I think I can lump myself with that group.

This forum is a lot of help, we can find online jobs that suit on us, we can learn a lot on how to make money thru btc and alts by campaign, trading and investing. If we don't have capital atleast we still have chance to gain it first in some campaigns it surely took time and lots of effort but everything will be worth it.

Yeah this forum is a lot of thing. When you're a beginner, you don't have capital, just by your knowledge about bitcoin you can earn some btc here, at first small payment for your rank but as your rank increases the payment will also increase. Then when you already have a capital you can trade or gamble but it's not a 100% return of investment. So better to study and do some readings before you try that. Here in the forum you can have more money of you work hard. So lets all be rich!
If a person is a beginner and don’t have enough money, he can always build his capital and invest in bitcoin at a later stage when he has enough money and start building a comfortable profit but it will all take some time so patience is required and right decisions are to be taken at the right time. Because decision is the idea or plan to make you move on. To have kind of information how to deal the goal how to get a goal.
175  Economy / Economics / Re: What power does Traders have on the Bitcoin price ? on: July 04, 2017, 08:07:44 PM
Alt coins, and Bitcoin, deemed by Florida courts as "meaningful value tokens", behave differently in the currencies markets as other world currency.  Normally, if the US dollar rises in the markets, that means at least one other currencies has fallen to some degree, Bitcoin can gain value and all FIAT currencies actually benefit from the additional movement power that increased value has brought to the world.
The market of bitcoin solely depends on the traders that is the buyer and seller and is not dependent on fiat currencies. Therefore normal stock market or inflation do not affect the value of the bitcoin neither do the fall or rise of currencies nor inflation which makes it a secure investment.
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to feel dumb and smart at the same time. on: July 04, 2017, 07:41:24 PM
I feel dump for not taking an action. I wasted my time hanging out with friends, playing computer games back in 2009. If I had done my research and found my way into bitcoin, I might have made a good fortune by now. But I do feel Smarter than my friends who are still not interested in crypto currency and view it has a joke. I pray they would truly understand the power of crypto currencies in future.
I think if you stick into your past and be regretful for the rest of your life it will not be fair. There is a huge number of Bitcoin users who have done all these things in the past but now they have concentrated on the future task.

I think it is better to move forward and take some good steps. We are still lucky that we are earning right now with bitcoin, there are people who besides knowing bitcoin are wasting their time. This is how what makes us smarter.
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: July 04, 2017, 06:13:36 PM
i think that people don't know about bitcoin because there is a few place that introduce bitcoin into public and people still thinking that bitcoin is just a part of internet and maybe they don't know that bitcoin can be a way for them to make money. the other reason is they don't care about bitcoin and they don't think that bitcoin is new technology that will helped them to make money.
Actually, I think why people don’t get bitcoin because they don’t know what is it and how to use it.In addition to that, some do not have any interest in bitcoin and they don’t know that by using bitcoin they could get a high income. Lastly, I think the main reasons why people don’t get bitcoin because they lack of interest and they don’t know what is the purpose of bitcoin.
Somewhat like that but bitcoin is truly broad for the world of newbie users or even old ones because it changes some period of time(value). Some people want stability of something yet when someone says this and that about bitcoin there's a tendency that the person will be doubtful in trusting bitcoin. So that's why maybe some don't get bitcoin.
You are right to some extent. There have been a lot of rumors about the bitcoin that bitcoin are unstable .
So, people who are unaware of bitcoin take it as a gamble and a risk. They believe they will be drowned by investing in bitcoin. then if you take look at the reality , you will realize the power of  a bitcoin.
178  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 04, 2017, 12:41:11 PM
I will choose both, 60% invest to Bitcoin and Altcoin for long-term, 40% invest to Gold and see it as a saving money long-term, maybe come to end of life Grin
The reason I use more money to invest cryptocurrency because it have more potential now and can make a huge profit with 1-5 years. With Gold, Gold can growth but slow than Crypto because it stable and can't market fluctuations as crypto in present Smiley

Don't ignore the growth potential of gold. Somewhere I read that the gold prices can increase by as much as 4 times by 2020. The mine production of gold is in decline (due to the closure of mines in South Africa), and the demand is rising steadily thanks to Russia, China and India. I believe that gold is a very good candidate for long term investment.
When compared with bitcoin, gold isn't a worthy candidate for long term investment. Gold may be increasing but not as fast as bitcoin. Gold increases steadily per year whereas bitcoin has become far more powerful and increases drastically in a matter of hours. Keeping this view bitcoin a far more secure investment.
179  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: July 04, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
The biggest problem that bitcoin may encounter is the power grab to see who will controls bitcoin which is the desperate BU founder and the core devs that is said to be controlled by bankers. This bitcoin scaling may just be an agenda or scheme to set their control and secretly take us of our freedom which is decentralization but this will also be an speculation and there's no real proof. It all depends on the bitcoin community who decides which path what's best for bitcoin and the community, its really hard to speculate but as long as the people has faith in bitcoin this currency will prevail.
Nobody can control bitcoin. It is completely anonymous and we even don’t know who created bitcoin in the first place. Keeping in mind the fact that it is decentralized, no one entity can control it. Bitcoin’s market depends solely upon the buyers and sellers. In the near future even governments will not have any power over it.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CVC] CIVIC Tokensale :: 21 June on: July 04, 2017, 08:49:51 AM
There is a notable steady increase of CVC in just a week. It started at $ 0.1250 on 2017-06-18 23:30 and reached $ 0.4997 as on 2017-07-03 23:30. Great going. Would have been nice to see the total number of shares sold in the official website, perhaps it will be updated soon.
From where you getting all these information. I just checked civic.com and unable to locate any price related information there. If you do not mind, please share any links where I can get these price information.
I just checked in google, hitbtc shows cvc/btc trading, are you referring prices of that exchange ?
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