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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]: 🔵 OPEN MONEY 🔵 * 3% Pool! 6M Bounty Token! & Contests!* on: November 12, 2017, 04:39:47 AM
Hello this seems like a good project, and there is a huge possibility that this will succeed, anyway i will be joining the signature campaign and help you promoting this.
382  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN misconceptions on: October 21, 2017, 02:45:14 PM
Definitely, they misunderstood how it should be that it should be an asset because I know also that it's will be high-rise and it is really possible to happen. Well, we can't control how do they plan to do on the bitcoins tjey earn from here or anywhere else it should be on their decision if they want it to grow or not if they plan it ahead. I think those who spend it for their daily use have purpose for that I just never judged them but I think it would be better to all if we just respect their individuals decision.
Agree. Honestly those people lack of knowledge and information to what bitcoin is, and as far as i ak concerned around here they just knew this forum as a source of income, this is not to brag but lets tell it honestly that is currently what is happening right now, so i just want to say this actually for no offense to everyone. This is also one of the misconceptions that i see in bitcoin, rather than being used as an invesment some other prefer to use it as a day to day currency.
383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Do You Cashout BitCoins? on: October 21, 2017, 10:58:46 AM
Hello, i'm kind of new into crypto currency, I am currently trading on few exchanges. But i noticed all of the exchanges use bitcoin to deposit and withdraw, also no matter what coin you trade use bitcoins. So when you decide to withdraw your bitcoin and convert to USD, how do you go it? I don't see any option in any exchange, which is very weird.
You can try visiting local trading sites like localbitcoins.com you just have to create a sell order and once a buyer accepts your offer the payment will be directly deposited in your bank account or you can try selling it here in bitcointalk but only transact with trusted members and use an escrow. Here in my country the easiest way to convert bitcoin to cash is through coins.ph unlike localbitcoins.com you don't have to wait for buyers and you have lots of option to make a withdraw in cash (through banks, ATM, remittance, or door to door delivery). I don't know if this service is available in your country since you didn't stated your location.
For now banks and ATM's are the most efficient way on withdrawing money, or converting bitcoin/selling bitcoin to cash, it is a big help not only for me but im bitcoin industry. I honestly tried that before, and you should always look for some local exchanges that enables you to convert bitcoin without further hassle, and i think most countries had an offer of that kind of services i guess.
384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How easy was it to buy bitcoin when it came out? on: October 21, 2017, 06:20:30 AM
I was also one of thoae who adopted bitcoin too late than anyone else way back years ago, no mattwr what i say, or even keep on regretting those actions that i didn't took at the first place, i can never turn it back and just keep on living in the past, instead i'd rather move on and do what it takes to cope up or earn for now that maybe can have a big impact in the future.
385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why some country banned bitcoin? on: October 20, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
because they don't know how to demand taxes from this, and still fear for the economy of the country
Short but direct to the point, it has still uncleared reason why they actually ban it to somw countries, but as what i am wondering maybe they see it as an economical competition between currencies that might actually lose the capability and uses of cash or fiats instead.
386  Local / Pamilihan / Re: how to buy php with bitcoin without id on: October 20, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
meron po ba kayong alam na website na pwede bumili nang php gamit ang bitcoin wala pa kasi akong id para sa verification para makabili ng php kaya kailangan ko ng website na di kailangan ng verification.
diskarte bro pwede mung gamitin yung valid id kahit sino sa family mo basta valid ito para makabili ka nang php sa coins.ph kahit di naman na verified pwede ka mag conevert yung valid id para makapag cashout ka nang malake
Hmmm medyo kakaiba rin ang diskarte mo kaso nga lang for incase na gusto kang makausap mg coins at required ka makipag skyoe o kaya naman meet up, sa tingin ko yung ID ng family member mo na ginamit sa pag verify ng account mo ay dapat malaman ang tungkol dito dahil bilang guardian din dapat aware sila sa ginagawa mo isa pa considered as illegal ang ganyan. In terms of converting naman, hindi naman masyadong demanding ang coins kung mag convert ka, problema nga lang sa cash out kasi need mo pa verified.
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN END PRICE on: October 20, 2017, 06:14:36 PM
There is no particular price when will be that fixed and last price of bitcoin. Many has assumed and predicted it but true or not nobody knows it actually. Only for a certain period that the price rise up to the highest it will drop a little for a while, set aside those prices bitcoin has gotten already far and it has still a lot to improve so lets just wait and see with our own eyes rather than relying in predictions that are not actually sure.
388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How I can make money with cryptocurrencies? on: October 20, 2017, 06:04:07 PM
I think you can join some signature campaign here in the forum but as per rank I think it would be nice if you would increase that first so that you can join to some of it. There are some social bounties here wherein you can join too they are located in Services and Bounties (Altcoins) sections but make sure you have to comply what they are looking for. Trading is a good choice also because in that way you can really make some money but make sure to know even the basics of trading so you'll not be confused how it goes.
Signature campaigns are helpful to make money into crypto if one had no resources to buy coin he must have to start into the bitcoin and on top of it signature campaign requires a lot of efforts and then you can earn one can solve captcha and do blog writing also and the time of completion of work you can get wage in the mighty coin that will help you to get into the crypto field.

Income from signature campaign will help you in building up your capital for making an investment in trading as the price of bitcoins is too high now so its not affordable for everyone to buy bitcoins but they have an choice to earn bitcoins by participating in signature campaign or by offering services so all these methods are the best ones to earn bitcoins regularly.
Yes it does. I've heard someone told me before if someone cannot make money without money, that somebody cannot make money with money, as the saying goes i have also realize that you can either start joining signature campaigns, not totally not spending money to buy some expenses you need but in a sort of taking advantage to your resources. I agree with what he said, you can build a good capital from joining signature campaigns, with merely effort and time you spent you can actually start trading.
389  Economy / Economics / Re: What would benefit bitcoin more? on: October 20, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
Those stated and choices above are more likely the same, its like you are just separating the choices by the kind of method they are promoting or speakers and promoters, and non of them differs. It should be promotion or advertising, yes its one of the most effective and beneficial way to let th people know about bitcoins and its uses, more importantly those promoters need to have their owm bitcoin so that they can express their own feelings and experience about it.
They are really the same as everything still balls down to promotion and advertising. However, I kinda imagine how the huge giveaways will be like, more like an airdrop of bitcoin. Grin

Probably I may just see like 10 BTC hit my wallet all of a sudden. Now that would be fun. The thing is bitcoin in itself is good at announcing itself and the media are also doing a pretty good job with that. Once we start seeing more countries legalizing bitcoin, that would make some impact.
Promotion would really be a good help in this field much likely would invite and attract more people, either of the choices at the poll woild really be a huge help not only for the bitcoin economy but also in terms of bitcoin itself, and if you can imagine ot, more and more brains will be working onwards to much improve bitcoin and other stuffs related.
390  Economy / Economics / Re: The panic seller irony on: October 20, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
well said, usually anyone who complains that BTC's price is too high, does so because they've sold everything when it was low. There is only one way to profit in this industry and that is to be stable and go in one road (by one road I mean don't buy/sell). You simply have to commit that Bitcoin is indeed the future and that it will increase in the short and long term, so it doesn't make any sense to start with unless you'll hold on. What is happening most of the time is that people are investing more than they can afford. It's natural that they'll get panicked then because their holdings is a substantial amount of their overal health and if they lose that they'll be in "trouble". Just invest what you can afford to lose and you'll feel so much better about holding BTC, and won't even feel the need to sell anything.
The biggest winner are those who risk bigger, that is also one of the principles applied here in bitcoin. One mistake could also lead to a huge lose, so there are also bounderies for all the emotions that can affect your ideas and your kental state. Well anyway, commiting to bitcoin you said? I guess there will be a lot to happen in the future, and nothing is for sure amd prcise to what will it be, that is also why engaging bitcoin is a very huge gamble.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is bitcoin on: October 20, 2017, 06:41:40 AM
What do you say when asked this question from a friend who has only heard its name mentioned a few times in the news and has no clue. I find myself lately taking the easy way out and suggesting google. I would prefer to give a clearer answer, but usually saying something leads to more questions and more confusion.
If someone could point me to a twitter type answer that would inform and twig their curiosity, i think it would be a better outcome.

I tell them that bitcoin is a cryptocurrency. I sometimes ask them to make a research and find out on their own, since I'm tired explaining to people who wants to earn money but not doing anything for their sake. Bitcoin is an easy way to earn money, you just need to invest your time, effort and work hard for it.

The problem with those who have seen the change with people who are now working with bitcoin is they want it faster. They are too greedy and want what we want in just a little amount of time. That is just insane and I hate it. I am getting lazy telling them how it is if that is their purpose so I just always told at introduction that it will take time then, they will go away.  Grin
I definitely agree with what you want to point out dude, nowadays when we say money almost lot of people actually do what it takes just to earn money even though its illegal, but in this forum although some people want to take it too easy or should we say for greed or money but in reality you really need to work, and there is no such thing as easy money if you want to earn modestly.
392  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bitcoin: SAVINGS o INVESTMENT? on: October 20, 2017, 02:32:22 AM
For me i prefer to investments, kasi kung savings okay din naman kasi volatile ang price ng bitcoin, so kahit mag imbak ka ng bitcoin masasabing savings pa rin, pero ako usually nag iimbak din ako ng mga high potential alt coins.
393  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: lost and struggle of trading. on: October 20, 2017, 01:41:47 AM

•Is trading hard?

I want it to come from the people who actually trade who experience trading I myself just read from goggle and some websites. Please do share some experiences and lost of money and earnings.

What do you called this? struggles yeah thats its struggle of traders.

If you are loosing the money then obviously you are on the right track of getting huge profits in the future. With every loss you are getting alarmed and know yourself where you making mistakes really. I'm pretty sure that trading is not as simple as reading the tricks over the google. It's about personal experience and loss. There should be your personal protocol of making investment. For example, Choosing of right coins, getting investment done at right points, looking for the pump and dump patterns of particular coins and off course little history should be taken into consideration for repetitive analysis. You will start feeling the trade yourself once you master these skills.

I deeply regret that many people give up when they fail, I think the risk of losses can be minimized with the mastery of the theory, in 1-3 months using only a little parity so not too much negative impact. the struggle to rise and restoration must be done, and we must face it with ever-increasing experience.
It is really funny why people do that.
Some though is good they give up on something when they just know out rightly that they don’t have the attributes to go ahead. For example, you cannot expect someone with a huge level of emotions to trade, just won't work no matter the level of learning unless they are able to deal with it first.

It is a struggle though and the people making a whole lot apparently do not have multiple heads or brains, they just included more efforts to make it better.
Honestly trading gives a lot of stress to someone even me. Maybe those people who gives up easily are scared to lose or easily panicked when they saw the market in bloodbath, well sometimes some traders want to earn instant profit while some got stucked to those market, if you were stucked at the market and you knew you will lose if you sell, then do not sell unless you gain profits, that is simple as that.
394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin from Investment to Daily Purchases & Uses on: October 19, 2017, 01:42:05 AM
That's why most of people using bitcoin use it for trading and investing. Bitcoin is not suitable yet to be used for daily purchases.
I do agree with you, its because as of now there are still no fixed price or worth of bitcoin and because of its volatility almost every minute the price changes so its hard to guess how much price for the items or goods that are paid in bitcoin will be, and as of now bitcoin is not yet suitable for day to day transaction or currency, but atleast for investment it is.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Survey! Investing in ICO on: October 18, 2017, 05:26:16 PM
I'm still afraid to invest in new projects because it's hard to predict whether it will succeed or not. Also recently, a lot of scammers because of which you can lose money. I'm just watching.

The concern about losing money is a very valid one. I wrote an whole article about why investing in ICOs should be looked at differently. You can read it here https://www.kela.io/the-coin-that-wont-make-you-rich.html

It's also why we are buying actual diamonds via our parent company's network (Live Rates Feeds), so that even if something bad happens, the coin holders can redeem the coins for the diamonds.

Thank you for the information. I just have not really figured out how to invest in such projects.

Did you look at the link I added? That would probably solve your dilemma Wink

Yes thank you. But I still need to overcome the psychological barrier.
i assume that investing in some ICOs are really too risky especially when you are not that familiar, thanks to your article anyway, it will be a big help wheb readed. Yes its true that investing in ICOs need to a lot to look too, not only because it has promising platform, nor has high potential, but the question is how long can it keep up in the market? Some investors prefer to hold for long term because its too way risky and hassle to day trade.
396  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BTC and USDT on: October 18, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
Yes and No,
as a trader our biggest goal is to secure the profit,
i say yes because when the price is high and slowly retracing,we should try to secure our position(capital+profit).
how to identify it ?
there're a lot of things and clues that we should understand how to read the market,the simplest way is when the price hit all time new high.
a few days or hours later another 'big' crash happen usually another downward movement will follow.
just like right now,

i say no,because a few days ago Bitcoin is at its peak,
and every altcoin is drowning,right now is the best time to load it because when the price is retracing.
every altcoin should get some pump.
but it's very risky because not many people understand how to read it.
you may lose it instead of gain from it
Yes it is possible, instead of gains you may lose because of thia retracement happenings. You must also be aware of the trends in the market, as simplified most of the tokens are related to bitcoin's price, so whatever happens to bitcoin upward or downward trends, still it will be affected. The main goal for a trader was already stated above, so keep it in mind, do not settle for a lose.
397  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Sa dami ng work sa online,Bakit Bitcoin ang Pinasok mo? on: October 18, 2017, 12:39:35 PM
Hindi po madali ang pag earn sa totoo lang kailangan mong paghirapan ang bawat satoshi na makukuha mo, siguro may mga libre dahik sa faucets pero kailangan mo parin paghirapan. Hindi rin po trabaho ang bitcoin, isa po itong currency na kung saan ito ang pamamaraan ng pagsahod sayo, bali ito ang makukuha sa bawat trabaho mo. Sa tanong mo OP, dahil bitcoin ang kadalasang pasahod sa mga online job, dahil kalimitan nag adopt na sila sa bitcoin bilang method of payment.
398  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Libreng bitcoin para sa mga newbie? on: October 18, 2017, 06:13:34 AM
The best advice talaga para sa mga newbies ay magtry mag faucet habang nagpaparank pa lang, double effort kumbaga, magbasa tungkol sa bitcoin, hindi lang dito sa loob ng forum kundi pati na rin sa labas. Marami kang mapupulot na maaaring makatulong sayo, halimbawa na rin yang freebitco.in maraming nag rerecommend nyan para sa mga starters palang.
399  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country will be the first to legalize Bitcoin? on: October 18, 2017, 05:16:39 AM
Or others Criptocurrencies I mean..

I'm looking forward to read and hear this news that will happen soon then what we are thinking..and it will change the way of action in economic world by who already are against BTC and stuff.
It has to happen ( even if I don't know how )

I bet in China  Wink
well according to quora, germany was first ever country that legalize and accepted bitcoin as a currency and unfortunately it isn't the china but they were the largest investor and holder of bitcoins and also the first ever manufacture mining equipments u  the world but the most notable countries who were accepted bitcoin is Japan because as a one of most innovative countries in the world
You are right mate! A lot of the countries are accepting the bitcoin and they are trying to make the bitcoin. The price of the bitcoin is increasing more and more and the value of the bitcoin is increasing so I think it is very good to invest the money in the bitcoin and to hold the bitcoin for the sake of the bright future because having the money is the best thing but having the bitcoin is the amazing thing.
Now a days countries are willing to accept bitcoin as a payment method because they know that it can make there economy better. Because if they accept bitcoin as a payment method then many businesses will become a good and profitable because we know that bitcoin price increasing so that's the step where countries are looking forward to accept bitcoin.
One of the reasons also why most establishments nowadays and most probably businesses accepts bitcoin as their method of payment, there is no longer need to elaborate the benefits of bitcoin as well. Some prefer it as a day to day currency or a payment, but as for me i would prefer to use it as my investment. As what i can observe lots of countries are already planning to adapt bitcoin to their country and make it their official secondary currency.
400  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: October 17, 2017, 02:00:55 PM
I too believe bitcoin.All the bitcoin user had believe in bitcoin. Bitcoin is the best way to inverse your money. If you have unwanted or excess money means, just inverse it in bitcoin and keep that for some months and then sell when the price reach maximum, you will get double of invested money.

Dude, the right term is "invest" and not "inverse". Inversing money means something else. And your logic is ridiculous. Bitcoin is not suitable for short-term investment. If you invest in Bitcoin for short term, then there is no guarantee that you will get good returns in such a short term. Because Bitcoin is so volatile that it can go down by 10% in just one day.
Short term in Bitcoin only speculation and also only speculators want to buy Bitcoin for this purpose. They do not understand the nature of the cryptocurrency market and the price of Bitcoin recently, they just care the price of Bitcoin has gained a lot of value and they do not want to miss any opportunity get rich from it at now.
For a common person, the only thing that matters in any sort of investment is profits. Am I right? Bitcoin gives that profit and more than that anyone can expect. It has produced millionaire and many people are enjoying a stable life just due to this digital currency. Nobody can challenge this fact. So if we are getting what we want and it is not illegal, why would not we invest in bitcoin?
Yeah i totally agree with your point out there. Many people had assumed that they can be too, but the reality is that as of now if you are a late adopter, of you really want to earn huge amount of money without doing something is to believe in bitcoins potential and hold for it as an investment. There are also some do short trades for short profits, and i guess there are multiple ways to earn using bitcoin, without only depending on bitcoin, but as expected lots of risk involved.
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