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341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ? on: January 20, 2024, 09:29:56 AM
I think it's very unlikely for someone to retire from gambling if they have basically just managed to get a big win, only a few people can do this and mostly as we know that more people end up with addiction. Honestly I never thought you would be able to decide to quit gambling forever when you get a big win, and for sure what happens is that you will become even more excessive or mean more aggressive in gambling because you want to get that kind of win again, logically who doesn't need money? and when they manage to get a win like that usually their hopes and beliefs will be greater towards winning.

On the other hand, in my opinion there is absolutely no time to retire from gambling, this is just a normal activity to fill leisure time but the difference is that it involves risk, you are free to choose whenever you want to stop if this activity is disturbing your finances or if you really don't want to lose money.
342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 20, 2024, 09:02:47 AM
Some people prefer to play at offline casinos because they want to socialize with other players and feel the live casino vibe, which can improve their mood when playing. But there are people who prefer online casinos because they don't like crowds and can play anywhere and anytime via their devices - they can play more quietly without any interference from other players. So it's not a matter of shortcomings between offline and online platforms, but just a matter of gamblers' preferences.
People who like gambling at offline casinos want to experience the fun of gambling together with other gamblers, and from there, they socialize with other gamblers. While gambling, they will meet many gamblers from various places and they can chat about many things. It will be an experience different from other pleasures. It will make them get to know other gamblers and being able to gamble with them will feel even more fun. Some like to gamble at online casinos where they don't need to go anywhere and can gamble anywhere and anytime. This makes it easy for them if they want to gamble at home. They can do other things while gambling, providing them with fun.

If I look at it from this side, it is probably true that people who go to physical casinos will get other services that casinos do not provide, namely the opportunity to socialize with many people in person and this is an advantage that we will not be able to get if we gamble at online casinos. With this opportunity, it can pave the way for you to have relationships with many people and maybe you can make many new friends which is certainly true what you said that our gambling will feel more fun. Now in this modern era everything looks easier to do, one example might be from gambling, you can choose according to what you want, if you really don't want to bother leaving the house then obviously your choice is to get involved in online casinos but if you want to meet lots of people in person with a lively atmosphere that can make you feel more happy or mean you are one of those people who like crowds then of course you can come to a physical casino, all of this is your choice.
343  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Apakah Anda merasa bahagia on: January 19, 2024, 04:06:20 PM

Jujur saya tidak terlalu paham dengan konsep bahagia yang anda maksudkan. Jika hanya dengan "investasi bitcoin" orang menjadi bahagia, saya belum menemukan kolerasinya, soalnya biasanya orang akan bahagia ketika mendapatkan uang, makan enak, mendapat istri cantik, mendaptakan hadiah, dan lainnya. Jadi kalo hanya berinvestasi di bitcoin, bagi saya tidak membahagiakan tetapi jika saya mendapatkan profit besar dari investasi saya pada bitcoin, itu baru saya pasti bahagia
 
Setuju saya dengan pendapat masnya,banyak sebab dan arti tentang bahagia ini.
Jika hanya tentang bitcoin ini yang dilegal kn di Indonesia saya rasa saya kurang bahagia memang benar yang masnya katakn hanya saja membuat tenang,saya rasa hanya uang lah yang mampu membuat kita bahagia dan badan sehat.
rasa bahagia kita ketika kita mempunyai kecukupan, baik materi maupun non materi, dengan bergabung di bitcoin ini berharap dapat mengubah ekonomi kehidupan kedepan menjadi lebih baik, karna ketika ekomoni kita membaik rasa bahagia kita juga ikut membaik, uang bukanlah segalanya, tapi segalanya butuh uang, dengan kita mempunyai uang hasil keringat sendiri maka rasa bahagia kita jauh lebih nikmat.

Ya dan saya pikir prasaan bahagia juga cukup tergantung apakah kita bisa bersyukur atau tidak dengan keadaan finansial kita, kalo memang kita adalah salah satu individu yang suka membandingkan diri dengan orang lain maka menurut saya sulit untuk bisa merasakan  prasaan bahagia dengan situasi keuangan kita, terkadang kebahagiaan juga tidak selalu tentang uang, banyak hal2 sederhana yang bisa membuat kita bahagia dan salah satu buktinya mungkin kita juga sudah sering mendengar beberapa orang kaya yang mengatakan bahwa dia tidak merasa bahagia padahal memiliki keadaan finansial yang sangat bagus.

Setiap orang memiliki ukurannya masing2 dalam hal kebahagiaan, ada sebagian yang merasa bahagia walaupun hal itu sederhana dan ada juga yang tidak sama sekali. Disisi lain zaman sudah semakin canggih dan banyak hal2 baru yang kita temukan di dunia digital dan ya salah satunya investasi bitcoin yang sekarang semakin ramai jadi perbincangan, saya setuju bahwa investasi adalah ide atau formula yang bagus untuk meningkatkan finansial karena sudah banyak juga yang nyatanya berhasil dan sukses, tentunya ini salah satu yang menjadi alasan orang2 datang dan terlibat. Kalo memang anda juga ingin ikut terlibat di dunia investasi maka saya hanya berharap anda untuk memprioritaskan pembelajaran terlebih dulu, jangan terlalu fokus pada keuntungan karena yang namanya investasi selalu tidak bisa di pisahkan dari resiko kerugian, dan semisal anda berhasil menjadi salah satu orang yang berhasil di dunia investasi maka jelas seperti yang agan katakan bahwa prasaan bahagia kita juga pasti akan lebih meningkat karena keadaan ekonomi yang semakin membaik.
344  Economy / Economics / Re: The savings problem on: January 19, 2024, 03:50:15 PM

A person needs a lot of money to meet his daily life needs. There are some people who are middle class and they face a lot of problems to live their life. They have to go through a lot of problems to live with the salary they get at the end of the month from their job. So they don't save any money.  Can't. Saving money is very important for us because if we face any big problem we can use this saved money. It can be very beneficial for me and my family.

Of course, everyone needs money because that's the only common medium of exchange that can make us survive and most people always experience problems in terms of finance especially for those who have medium or even below average finances, of course this is a big test that they have to pass, let alone saving to meet the needs of daily life is very difficult for them. On the other hand, the main problem is that the cost of living is increasing but the income from work is not balanced to cover all needs.

Of course it is not easy to overcome financial problems like this if we don't do something or develop because we will still live and that means needs will always exist and somehow we have to have money to survive, and that means development is really needed, not infrequently we see successful people who come from very poor backgrounds, of course they have a very good recipe for life that is the result of their tireless struggle in terms of the process and also accompanied by having seriousness in terms of change to be able to move forward.
345  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 19, 2024, 03:30:52 PM

My wife knows about my gambling habit, I think that's an important thing in my case. I'd like someone stopping me if I am crossing the line, betting too high amounts, or I won't even stand up in my seat anymore. Now, she doesn't really care anymore because she has seen it, I don't really gamble high amounts and I do tend to be afraid to do so. She knows me and I won't risk our budget just for the simple gambling thing, they know they are the most important people to me and I won't risk our food on the table just to entertain myself.
But, it still feels better if you know that someone has your back if you are in trouble. I mean, if ever I cross that line, I know she will be there to stop me.
It's also a good thing that she knows, that way I will be afraid to lose all my money because of being afraid that she might scold me. Grin
Keep it a secret to your neighbors to avoid gossip and so that kids won't know it from someone else. It's best they won't have any idea of gambling while they are still young which is why we keep it a secret to other people. But if it is your wife, I doubt she will tell that to the kids as long as your still together.
I don't think it's a big deal if our family knows about the gambling activities we do. it's a problem if people who are not family who will only make fun of us when they find out about the defeat when playing gambling.
As explained by @danherbias07, the wife needs to know so that she can stop when she is too deep. because indeed when we play gambling, it is not uncommon for the mind to be very chaotic and uncontrollable. That is what causes large losses and defeat.

But people prefer to keep it a secret because they don't want anyone else including their family to interfere in their gambling activities, as we know that gambling has a fairly negative point of view in the eyes of society and with that obviously gamblers are afraid that one of their family will interfere and prohibit their desire to gamble, I think that's all they have in mind and rarely do people think that by telling their family or their wife then they will be able to get help when their gambling activities have gone too far. On the other hand, I understand that by telling others, they will indirectly help us to avoid acting out of control when the situation is already hot or in the sense that we are very emotional due to defeat, but on the other hand, as I said, one of the reasons why gamblers don't want to tell anyone is because they don't want people to interfere with their gambling activities.
346  Economy / Economics / Re: The savings problem on: January 18, 2024, 05:36:25 PM
It's clear that saving money has become harder for many especially with rising living costs and stagnant wages. People are working more but struggling to set aside any savings. There's a need for changes whether it's better job opportunities, affordable housing or other policies that can make things easier for everyone. It's a complex issue but acknowledging the problem is a step toward finding solutions right?

Income and expenses are a problem in this case so it is difficult to get a balance in terms of finance, sometimes let alone saving or setting aside money, for daily living expenses alone there are still quite a lot of people who complain because it is still far from enough. One of the problems is as you said that the cost of living is increasing but income is stagnant, I think for the first solution problem maybe we have to work harder or work smart like building a small business such as opening a shop and in addition we also while continuing the main job, with that then there will be additional costs for living or for saving in preparation for the future, and I think the government should pay full attention to this problem because it is clear that many people are suffering from this situation and one of the things the government can do is increase the wages of workers or the intention is to adjust to the basic needs which in fact are increasing.
347  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 18, 2024, 12:55:45 PM
Yes what you said is very true, for the problem of whether gamblers will keep their gambling habits secret or not all of that really depends on themselves and depends on their comfort, although overall gambling has a fairly negative viewpoint in the eyes of society but I think it doesn't matter if they show their gambling activities to others if they have a good gambling approach and are also one of the gamblers who have full responsibility for this habit.

The point is like you said that as long as they don't harm others by always gambling using their own budget without borrowing from others or whatever I don't think people should criticize or assume they are people who have bad behavior even though they are involved in gambling, it's all about choice and everyone has the right and freedom in terms of choosing something.
Maybe if we live in a toxic environment, it could have social effects on us and maybe also on our families. like our children who may receive the impact of teasing from neighbors or playmates about us being gamblers.
it's not a big deal if the environment doesn't interfere. and we also do not harm them. but there are impacts that may be received by people close to us.
I personally prefer to remain silent and only talk about gambling with people who actually gamble. for everyone else, it's better not to.

Well that's right, I understand that as long as we don't harm others then it's our right to do whatever if we have a safe and recommended behavior or approach overall, but on the other hand like you said it's also true my friend that even though we are basically responsible gambling in our gambling activities but we can't be completely sure that people will consider us responsible gamblers, In the event that you're not sure what to do, you'll be able to take a look at this article and see if you can find any information about it.

Therefore, the conclusion of everything is as you said that it is better and safer for us to keep it a secret from others and just enjoy it ourselves, after all I think there is no point in telling people that we gamble, there is no benefit whatsoever in my opinion.
348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's The Weirdest Alibi Of Gamblers So They Can Continue Gambling? on: January 18, 2024, 12:35:41 PM

Yes, I understand that skills and knowledge can create a closer chance of winning, but it is still a chance, you can only achieve a 70% chance maybe with the skills you have and that you apply, but you cannot achieve the remaining 30% percentage because it is luck that will determine whether you will actually win or not at all. The point is as you said that there is absolutely no certainty about the final result, even if we have good knowledge and skills but still this cannot guarantee 100% that you can end up winning.

The point is that in any type of gambling risk cannot be completely avoided because it is not gambling if you can get the results you want, so of course it's all about winning and losing. Those who are called experts are those who have good knowledge and that does not mean they are experts in terms of luck, this is what makes the possibility of risk cannot be avoided completely, but maybe the experts besides having good knowledge they also have good risk management which makes them less significant in terms of losing, on the other hand of course gambling is not something that should be taken seriously, it is just a game of chance that involves risk and that's why you should gamble with the aim of entertainment.

Appropriate. What is called gambling is gambling, the aim is for entertainment, winning or losing is a bonus. But who doesn't hope to win when gambling?

This already concerns the personal realm if it is related to alibis or continuing to gamble or stopping gambling. Only each individual knows the decision or alibi.

Yes as I said above, if gambling can be won by applying some strategies and skills then it is not gambling, however gambling is always inseparable from the name "unpredictable and profit - profit" always about this because there is absolutely no certainty or guarantee of anything and also cannot be separated from the name of possible risk. To your question, I think obviously all gamblers will not refuse if they are given winnings by the casino, we cannot lie that all gamblers want to win, logically who does not want or do not like money? The fact is that everyone needs money, but what you have to understand is in terms of "expectations", expectations are the difference between gamblers, there are those who want to win by being too hopeful so that they act aggressively, for example by making many attempts which ultimately make them suffer from the number of defeats because it is impossible to get consecutive wins, and there are also those who gamble without expecting anything but if the victory comes by itself they will not refuse.

For people who don't expect to win too much, they won't lose too much because the number of tries is not too frequent and they understand that gambling is a lucky activity that depends on luck, so with that they won't push too much because they know that if they are lucky then the victory will come by itself.
349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: January 17, 2024, 03:16:38 PM
I agree with you, an emergency fund is very important, because it is something that must be paid attention to, there will be a situation where we will experience something sudden and of course it requires funds to overcome it, such as an accident or other things, so we have an emergency fund it will help us to overcome something that can happen suddenly. Of course, even though we have parents, it doesn't mean that the needs we need can be provided or fulfilled by our parents, at least we also have to have good thoughts, by not burdening our parents to fulfill our wishes.

If you have a fairly serious problem that must be resolved with finances that may be quite large, that doesn't mean you have to sell your bitcoin investment. because in my opinion, selling Bitcoin investments certainly cannot be done haphazardly, it must be done and carefully. If someone already has a business then in my opinion it is mandatory for them to think about an emergency fund and have one.
Therefore, before starting investment, prepare an emergency fund in advance for at least 3-6 months so that the reserve fund is safe when needed at any time, of course this will not interfere with your investment when in any emergency.

I always use this strategy because for us it is important about emergency funds, we are humans who will certainly require expenses and needs that we never expected in any case.
Never rely on parents means you don't have independence, if you are still in school then it is still the responsibility of the parents but if you have worked you yourself must be able to how to support yourself and start the investment because with the monthly salary you receive, for example, it is important to set aside on investment, especially bitcoin if you understand it.

Now when you have a problem in the sense that there must be greater expenses then the reserve fund can be relied on, your investment is safe will not be sold in the middle of the road, you can still continue investing in bitcoin when things are normal.

But when your finances are still healthy then continue your DCA to invest in bitcoin.

However and in any case management must still be applied especially when it comes to finance, another thing is that I quite agree with the idea of your statement about how to have a good approach by having a balance in terms of finance and one of them is like setting up an emergency fund before you get involved in bitcoin accumulation.  This method is really recommended, especially especially for people who have medium or even below average finances, as the discussion this time that we will never know about what will happen in the future in our lives, it is very possible that we can experience unexpected things such as experiencing things that require emergency funds such as illness and require medical expenses, and obviously if we have not prepared an emergency fund at all, then obviously the more likely thing is that you will sell some of the bitcoins that you have and that you have maintained so far.

On the other hand, I think it may not be uncommon for investors to experience situations like this so that in the end there is no other way but to take or sell some of their bitcoins to solve problems in urgent situations. Therefore, planning is really a very important thing that must be prepared in advance such as preparing a number of things that are needed and one of them is like an emergency fund. Honestly there is absolutely no compulsion for anyone to get involved in bitcoin accumulation, if indeed you are still a schoolboy then I think this situation is not too appropriate for you to start getting involved, unless indeed you are already working and have your own salary and feel sufficient in terms of income then go ahead if you want to get involved in investing. Simply put if indeed you feel capable in terms of finance then please with a record of having a good understanding of the world of investment, my advice is not to focus too much on profits because after all investment is about profits and losses meaning you can profit and you can also lose and this can be one of the reasons why risk management is really a very important thing for a prevention or action to minimize.

Back to the original discussion that emergency funds are really needed to minimize the unexpected and this method will make you calmer and I think will not interfere with the DCA method that you are running, this is useful for maintaining and increasing the percentage of maximum profit at the end of planning and involvement.
350  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 17, 2024, 02:51:17 PM
People decide to hide their habit of gambling because of different reasons, such as how other people see them and the possible outcome of their actions. Some gamblers are also not proud due to social stigma or negative perceptions. While others choose privacy to avoid problems with family and friends. It's important to note that people have different perceptions of gambling. In the end, choosing to hide that you gamble is a personal choice.

This is a valid point.

It's still depend on the person whether he wants others to know his gambling habits or just keep it to himself. It's really a personal decision and others should not meddle into someone else's business. As long as the person is gambling responsibly, and doesn't negatively impacts the people around him because of negligence, then I think they should be left as is. You are right when you mentioned that gamblers hide their activities for various reasons. If they want to open up to someone close to them, then better so that they can also receive criticisms when they need to. But if they don't, let's just respect their choice. After all, it's still a matter of making your life private or known to public.

Yes what you said is very true, for the problem of whether gamblers will keep their gambling habits secret or not all of that really depends on themselves and depends on their comfort, although overall gambling has a fairly negative viewpoint in the eyes of society but I think it doesn't matter if they show their gambling activities to others if they have a good gambling approach and are also one of the gamblers who have full responsibility for this habit.

The point is like you said that as long as they don't harm others by always gambling using their own budget without borrowing from others or whatever I don't think people should criticize or assume they are people who have bad behavior even though they are involved in gambling, it's all about choice and everyone has the right and freedom in terms of choosing something.
351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's The Weirdest Alibi Of Gamblers So They Can Continue Gambling? on: January 17, 2024, 02:21:29 PM
~snip~
Yes, I understand that skills and knowledge can create a closer chance of winning, but it is still a chance, you can only achieve a 70% chance maybe with the skills you have and that you apply, but you cannot achieve the remaining 30% percentage because it is luck that will determine whether you will actually win or not at all. The point is as you said that there is absolutely no certainty about the final result, even if we have good knowledge and skills but still this cannot guarantee 100% that you can end up winning.

The point is that in any type of gambling risk cannot be completely avoided because it is not gambling if you can get the results you want, so of course it's all about winning and losing. Those who are called experts are those who have good knowledge and that does not mean they are experts in terms of luck, this is what makes the possibility of risk cannot be avoided completely, but maybe the experts besides having good knowledge they also have good risk management which makes them less significant in terms of losing, on the other hand of course gambling is not something that should be taken seriously, it is just a game of chance that involves risk and that's why you should gamble with the aim of entertainment.
That's because we play gambling where we won't be able to win too often, especially as there is a luck factor that we must have to win. We must remember that even though our skills are high and good, we can also experience defeat because, in gambling itself, there is no certainty that we can win. That's why if we gamble, we don't need to be too eager to win the gambling game but just enjoy the gambling game. After all, we gamble to have fun, and if we win, it is a bonus for us.

We must be able to prevent the risk from increasing by managing our money for gambling so that we don't lose too much. By always limiting gambling activities, we can avoid losses and will not make excuses that look strange, like what people say. That is why we only need to use gambling as entertainment and not use it as a way to make money rather than experience disappointment. And because gambling is a game of chance, as you said, we have to be able to take good care of ourselves, especially since there are so many temptations that can make us forget to control ourselves.

I recognize that you have a good understanding and approach to gambling, I agree that it is a fact that gambling is always nothing more than a game of chance, if it were not a game of chance then there would be a consistent word to get the final result but the fact is that it is not like that and as you said that even if you have very good skills but still you still need the luck factor because only this can ensure whether you will actually succeed in getting a win or not. I've had experiences where I didn't expect any winnings in gambling but it turned out that at the end of the session I actually got a pretty big win and I was really surprised by that result even though honestly I didn't apply any skills at all and purely just guessed, and this really confirms that gambling is a matter of luck, and the other thing is that if you manage to get a win then consider it as a bonus so that you don't think strangely especially to do some actions out of control, because not infrequently we find cases where winning is always the starting point for gamblers to overdo it because they want to get that kind of result again.

So emphasize more in yourself and your mind that this activity is just an entertainment or playground that involves taking risks, and for the problem of risk all this depends on yourself and I think if you are not too focused on winning then you should be able to take a level of risk that suits your own abilities such as only putting a small budget amount that certainly will not make us upset when the results lose. So the point is of course that gambling is in fact not a place to make money, we have seen a lot of evidence that if they are too serious usually the opposite happens as experienced by addicts so you must really have a correct understanding of gambling so that you do not become the next victim.
352  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Apa yang akan kalian lakukan? on: January 16, 2024, 03:29:19 PM

Di saat itu, saya melamun dan membayangkan jika saya memiliki 100-1000 BTC, kira-kira apa yang ingin saya lakukan.


Bermimpilah tentang BTC karena 1000 BTC adalah uang yang besar dan bukan untuk semua orang. Butuh waktu bertahun-tahun untuk mendapatkan 100 BTC dan BTC tidak tumbuh di pohon. Anda harus berinvestasi pada tahun 2010 jika Anda menginginkan 1000 BTC, tetapi sekarang sudah tahun 2023 dan 2024 sudah dekat. Berhentilah melamun tentang BTC dan memiliki 100 BTC, Anda tidak akan mendapatkan apa-apa.

Tentu saja, saya benar2 tidak bisa membayangkan kalo saya bisa memiliki 1000 BTC sepertinya saya sudah menjadi salah satu orang terkaya sekarang, ini adalah mimpi dari sebagian besar orang yang tahu soal dunia investasi dan menurut saya pribadi tidak ada salahnya bagi kita untuk bermimpi walaupun rasanya cukup mustahil untuk mendapatkan jumlah BTC sebanyak itu pada situasi seperti sekarang ini, kalau anda bermimpi soal ini sekarang saya pikir sepertinya anda bisa berhasil mencapainya 100 tahun ke depan dan mungkin anda hanya menghasilkan sedikit BTC walaupun sudah menghabiskan banyak waktu.

Ya salah satu cara yang masuk akal untuk mendapatkan BTC sebanyak itu yaitu anda harus berinvestasi di 14 tahun yang lalu, tetapi ini benar2 mustahil karena seperti yang kita tahu bahwa waktu tidak bisa di putar kembali dan mungkin hanya ada penyesalan yang tersisa, jujur saya juga sering teringat pada tahun 2010 yang dimana harga /1 BTC sama dengan uang jajan sekolah saya sehari, artinya dalam jangka waktu seminggu mungkin saya bisa memiliki setidaknya 5 BTC tetapi ya semuanya sudah terlambat kawan. Dan mungkin saya pikir ini bisa menjadi salah satu pelajaran bagi kita untuk tidak menyianyiakan kesempatan apapun ketika kita masih memiliki waktu.
353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's The Weirdest Alibi Of Gamblers So They Can Continue Gambling? on: January 16, 2024, 02:56:07 PM
~snip~
This makes it clear that the combination of the two can create a greater probability of winning. If you only have one of these things, the probability of winning may still be lower than winning. Casino games seem to be more closely linked to mathematics, because slots and blackjack, crashes, rolls are very likely related to probability. However, if we talk about sports betting, it seems to be related to luck and one's observation in a match.
Perhaps it can create a greater chance of winning, but they must be able to realize that gambling does not guarantee that they can win. They can experience loss, especially in gambling games that rely on luck, because even though they are experts at both things, they still need luck. Each gambling game requires calculations, but there must still be luck to win, so they must be aware of this so they don't need to gamble too seriously. But it is better for them to gamble just for fun and not to chase victory because that is not easy to get.

Yes, I understand that skills and knowledge can create a closer chance of winning, but it is still a chance, you can only achieve a 70% chance maybe with the skills you have and that you apply, but you cannot achieve the remaining 30% percentage because it is luck that will determine whether you will actually win or not at all. The point is as you said that there is absolutely no certainty about the final result, even if we have good knowledge and skills but still this cannot guarantee 100% that you can end up winning.

The point is that in any type of gambling risk cannot be completely avoided because it is not gambling if you can get the results you want, so of course it's all about winning and losing. Those who are called experts are those who have good knowledge and that does not mean they are experts in terms of luck, this is what makes the possibility of risk cannot be avoided completely, but maybe the experts besides having good knowledge they also have good risk management which makes them less significant in terms of losing, on the other hand of course gambling is not something that should be taken seriously, it is just a game of chance that involves risk and that's why you should gamble with the aim of entertainment.
354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another question? Tell me your average amount per bet and your monthly income? on: January 16, 2024, 02:28:28 PM

Same here. It's crucial to set limits and manage your budget wisely, especially with activities like gambling. Knowing when to stop is a responsible approach.

Yup! Especially that there's a lot of things that we need to prioritize aside from gambling, though that's not even a part of my priorities but still we need to manage our spending habits even if it cost a little amount. Having a normal salary pay, honestly it's kinda difficult to balance the needs and wants because everything is so expensive nowadays, so if you can't balance your salary, and only some part of it goes to the least important things, you might be surprised that you will run out and end up in debt.

That's right, the necessities of life are something that must be prioritized because only this will keep you alive by always prioritizing the main needs. Therefore, financial management is really mandatory for all individuals, no matter if you have good or rich finances, we as humans have lusts that will make us do things out of control such as putting money or spending money on something that is not very important which ultimately makes you lose some money for something that is not really needed.

If we can't manage everything well then obviously no matter how much money you have it will run out very quickly and maybe we will be surprised when everything is gone. So of course in any case management is really needed for a balance especially when it comes to money, I always think about this when I get a salary from my job by prioritizing my needs for the next month, leaving a little to save for unexpected things like medical expenses or whatever and if I have a little money from the remaining needs then I will then allocate it to something I want like gambling, with this then I think it is less likely for you to end up in debt.
355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 14, 2024, 07:49:23 PM
Manchester united is poor in defense and this second half willnot be in their favor from the look of things. This is because Tottenham have decided to come with the determination of winning the match, because they have seen that Manchester united is very weak
Manchester United's fans were always let down.

I don't know if the fans of Manchester United are upset for real or saying we got a point at least this time! I mean they were playing against Tottenham Hotspur and regarding their failure, this result is positive if we can say so!
Manchester United this time scored and added another goal after Spurs got the draw. They were trying their best although the dominance of Tottenham Hotspur. Manchester United were few inches from scoring a goal by McTominay in the injury time but they failed unfortunately. This result didn't allow Spurs to move to top 4 and let ManU advance a little for now.
Some Manchester United fans are absolutely unhappy with the result not because their team didn't do well to at least take a point away from the game but because they think they were supposed to do better since they were playing at home. Manchester United have been absolutely inconsistent this season and from the looks of things they're not gonna finish the season in the top four of the league table and that's actually giving the club fans some serious concerns.

Tottenham Hotspur manager will be very happy with the result at final whistle because his team were able to draw level after going behind two times in the game. Good performance by the Tottenham Hotspur players

Well that's a problem for Manchetser United fans, the fans have really missed the rise of their proud club and maybe this match is one of the opportunities for Manchester United to get the full three points because after all they play at home which certainly creates greater expectations from the fans. On the other hand the end of the season is approaching and Manchester United are still in inconsistent form in every match they go through, with this then maybe it will be too narrow a time or opportunity for Ten Hag's squad to be able to enter the top five of the standings.

I am quite doubtful and really will not put more hope for this season on Manchester United, on the other hand for Tottenham yes maybe I agree with you that although Tottenham can only share points in this match but obviously being able to hold a draw is a pretty good result by playing on the enemy's turf.
356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's The Weirdest Alibi Of Gamblers So They Can Continue Gambling? on: January 14, 2024, 06:51:51 PM
That's indeed a weird alibi from your friend. But that's not the weirdest probably. Gambling could indeed be therapeutic as other forms of entertainment are. But that's not a wise idea to gamble if you're going through something.

I think the weirdest alibi for me is when a gambler asks or even borrows money because he needs to buy food or milk for his baby or medicine for his old mother even if the reality is that he only uses the money for gambling.

The last part will be the top tier weirdest alibi that I've ever heard, And we knew that many gamblers has been using that line in order for them to borrow money, they also sometimes use the illness of one of the family members as a reason and the worst is about death. Imagine? That's how a person can turn beyond theirself because of addiction.

Yes it sounds quite strange and outrageous, but I think this is not the first time I have heard of it, because as we know that many gamblers end up addicted and maybe you also already know that usually an addicted gambler will do anything that is important he can gamble, so the idea of borrowing money is really a definite thing that is very likely they make as an alternative to getting money to finance their gambling activities and I think this is quite common for gamblers when they run out of money due to defeat or other things.


What is outrageous is yes as you said that they are desperate to lie and make excuses that they need emergency funds to pay for one of their family members who is sick, this is an outrageous way with little intelligence just to get money to gamble.l Cheesy
357  Economy / Economics / Re: Will they ever be able to afford a house? on: January 14, 2024, 04:53:52 PM
Management is the main part of how to allocate finances in a gradual and stable manner. I agree with your words. but many people now want to build a house without using management, most of them now get a good location from all access but don't look at the financial contents that they have, which sometimes hinders the process.

If a person can manage their activities according to the finances then he can settle his life well but if management system is not well settled then there will be hurdles in all the process of life.

If one wants to build a house then it is not easy that without management of money he will do this. For each and everything one should make a plan because without planning it become difficult to achieve all the necessities in life.

Exactly, and the point is that having management in any case, especially finances, is really recommended, this will really be useful for minimizing expenses that are not actually needed except for some unexpected events such as maybe needing costs for treatment due to illness, but I think this cannot be made a full excuse because people who really have good management, of course they have good planning also in terms of their finances such as preparing savings for emergency funds, having good management and planning on finances will certainly make it easier for someone to achieve balance in any case and one of them is in dividing the allocation of money to build or buy a house.
358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 14, 2024, 04:33:28 PM
People are addicted to gambling despite repeated losses, and betting can have many neuroanalytical reasons, but the most likely reason for me is that when people start betting, when their account balance is exhausted, they think it might be their last bet. He can recover his previous zero balance. So he has a strong urge inside his brain to get addicted to gambling and keep on betting despite repeated gambling losses. It is a report driven by the entire human nervous system that, despite his repeated control, only the intense desire for recovery compels him to gamble again.
This is true, those who are addicted to gambling will of course continue to gamble even though they still lose and no one can stop them unless they themselves want to stop gambling, because if someone else tells them to stop, they certainly won't be able to stop. easily there must be a desire from those who are addicted and only then can other people help them to recover from their gambling addiction, if they cannot stop after experiencing many losses of course they will suffer many losses from the gambling they play.

People who have entered the addiction phase have excessive enthusiasm for pursuing a win, they always act out of control and do something without being based on a correct understanding of gambling so that they assume that the percentage of wins is much greater than losses, when the actual facts are the opposite where the percentage of wins is much lower than losses and that is also the reason why they often experience defeat compared to wins that only come occasionally.

It is very difficult to stop someone who is already addicted because they have a wrong understanding and mindset in gambling so that makes it difficult for them to achieve awareness for something much better, so even if there are people who want to help them in various ways such as advice maybe it still won't have a full effect, as you said and what makes more sense is that addiction will be easy to overcome if there is openness and willingness from the gambler himself, because obviously if they have managed to achieve at least a little awareness then some actions to change for the better will definitely be easier to do.
359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another question? Tell me your average amount per bet and your monthly income? on: January 14, 2024, 03:28:39 PM
Hello gamblers, this is a kind of survey aimed at getting to know my fellow gamblers better, particularly in the context of sports betting. I would like to know your average bet amount and your monthly income.

You don't need to provide exact figures; an estimate would suffice. Through this discussion, we can assess whether we are being too aggressive in our gambling habits or if we are playing it safe with our bets.

Thanks, this is a great question to find out if we are aggressive gamblers or not. For me, to be honest, my monthly salary income from my main job and part-time job is approximately $400, this is enough to cover my living needs for a month and regarding the budget allocated for gambling that I do, I usually only put $5 and a maximum of $10, I don't dare to exceed this amount, firstly because there is a sense of worry that comes to my mind regarding the adverse effects of gambling that I cannot always avoid. Secondly, I really appreciate the salary that I get from my hard work at work, so I always think of reducing unnecessary expenses, one of which is by minimizing gambling activities with small amounts. Oh yeah, plus I really don't know how to play with a big budget, because maybe I'm too used to only putting small amounts into the gambling I do, I really appreciate the money I earn from my hard work. Grin
360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: January 13, 2024, 01:59:14 PM
Overall I'm sure there must be people who do gambling activities at work, one of the scenarios maybe they feel that the work is done but the time is still not showing the time to go home so with that maybe they will take advantage of that time to try their luck, on the other hand I understand that in this scenario your work is done but I think it would be better if you don't do other activities and it's better to use that time to rest without doing other activities. especially in general gambling has a bad view in the eyes of society and the worry is that your boss may find out about your gambling activities during working hours. especially in general gambling has a bad point of view in the eyes of society and the worry is that your boss may find out about your gambling activities during working hours, of course it will be a new problem that should not happen and maybe your boss is one of those people who hates gambling and finally there is absolutely no tolerance for the mistakes you make and in the end the possibility of losing your job could happen to you. Therefore, of course we must be someone who is responsible for whatever we do, one of which is by being able to divide each time according to the schedule of daily activities that you have.
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