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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Wins: Your Money Was Returned to You. on: March 08, 2024, 03:40:07 PM
Yes, it's as simple as that, or what it means is that when you win it can mean that you get back the money you previously lost due to the defeat you experienced, and that means isn't it not a win but just a recovery? Of course I will say this unless the winnings are very large, which is equivalent or enough to cover your living expenses for several years perhaps.

But in my opinion, most gamblers are deceived by their winnings, they think and assume that their money has increased because they managed to win, but if you calculate it with what they have lost due to losses, the amount is usually the same or even much greater than the amount of their losses. even though at that time they managed to win. So this is gambling where you will not realize that the actual number of losses you lose is much greater than the wins, but in fact a gambler will be able to forget 10 losses just because he gets 1 win.
202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: March 08, 2024, 01:52:28 PM
True, the problem is that it is not that easy to do some of the actions that are recommended and also the best to do for good, one of the reasons is because as you said that there are so many temptations in gambling that it can make a gambler even forget some of the limits that they have made before and also as we know that everyone has a "forgetful" nature in him, so it is very possible that they forget some of the limits or controls that they have made just because they see and are tempted by the many temptations that are in every session they do.

I think one of the keys is "decisiveness", you need to really apply this to your boundary planning because this is the only way you will at least be able to realize that everything you see is nothing more than a temptation that ultimately makes the situation worse, like when you are in a winning situation where most gamblers apply greed that ends up in a much worse situation.

Yes, the nature of forgetfulness is within a person, it is natural and as time goes by, because of this nature of forgetfulness, he will often act carelessly and unnaturally so that he actually does things that should be avoided. In relation to gambling, a person who is forgetful tends to get used to playing as he pleases and it is easy for him to forget the limits and good control in gambling.
Yes, I agree with you to prevent and minimize this by having firmness and discipline to maintain our control when gambling so that things that harm us do not have too big an impact.

A person will only experience "forgetting" when they are in a situation of weak awareness which makes them more likely to do things that should actually be avoided in gambling, and this means as I said above that the solution is that whoever it is must put firmness in their awareness, especially when they are carrying out a gambling session because with this I think it is less likely for you to always make mistakes due to the many temptations that exist in gambling. So the point and solution, as I mentioned above, is that assertiveness has a very important role in implementing awareness and boundaries within yourself so that you are not easily tempted by something that looks very tempting, and clearly the benefits will be to prevent you from all bad possibilities. which is not desired.
203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: March 08, 2024, 01:04:08 PM
As far as I am concerned, every form of gambling has different levels of addiction, and it depends on how individuals handle the addiction, some will definitely take it more than others, that level is not something we can measure until it unfolds and we see it, but how many can we see?

There are some people that believe in gambling with 50% of their mind and there are some who believe in gambling with 100% of their minds, the higher the believes they have in gambling the massive their level of addiction will be if they ever get addicted one way or the other, it doesn't have to be sports bets or Dice games, gambling is gambling and addiction is addiction.



I think those gambling games that can provide quick result and at the same time offer more entertainment will be the game that has more gambling addiction. Slot games for example is the most played games name which means it’s the possible game that has a lot of gambling addiction cases.

You’re right that it’s still depends on each individual state of mind on how they handle addiction but we can use as basis how popular the gamblings games among the gamblers to determine what gambling games that answer the OP question.

Yes and the meaning is the same even though you can get a win or result very quickly and maybe even with a very large amount like in the type of slot bet but still the possibility of risk is also very large along with the possibility of addiction, so I think it's the same and I I wouldn't say that slot gambling is the best, because if you look at it from both sides, the results and risks are the same, the risks can even be much higher.

If the question is which type of gambling can make someone more addicted, honestly I don't know because I'm not a professional in gambling, but what is certain and what I know is that this type of slot game does have a very large player population these days, most of the people are on social media and most online slot casinos always have big promotions there so maybe this is the reason why slots can be so popular, but however it depends on the person too, if for example they really have a proper understanding of the concept of gambling then I think there is little chance of them ending up addicted.
204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 08, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?

If after all our money was gone and my spouse admitted the mistake and promised to change for good, then we could talk things properly. Since it's my spouse after all, there's always room for a second chance. I might feel angry at some point but if I feel that the promise is genuine, I need to put trust.

I will now see if a real change is happening as we move on to that bad moment. I hope so that everything will went well.

Yes, that's right, there is still a second room to discuss and find a solution together to overcome this problem. If your partner really feels guilty and apologizes along with promising to change for the better, then clearly there's no harm in giving him a chance. or a second room to try to improve, but I think if for example this is the umpteenth promise, or what it means is that they have said that they want to change for a long time but always make the same mistakes that make your family lose money for free as a result of their partner's actions you then clearly I think this is another thing that must be taken seriously.

I understand that saying is always easier than doing, but if for example the situation is that your partner always makes the same mistake several times then perhaps in my opinion you need to give a firm warning or even do something that could really traumatize your partner, such as threatening him. or whatever.
205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Even as a sport fan be careful! on: March 07, 2024, 06:22:45 PM
I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

Yes I quite agree with your first idea that prevention is always better than cure, but I don't think there is anything else they should do, they only came with the intention to watch and support their pride team compete, I am sure that they are one of the true brighton fans so they can take the time to watch their pride team even abroad. I understand that prevention is better than cure but this kind of thing is already a fairly common occurrence that occurs at the stadium between the two camps, there are always people who start problems with supporters of their enemy club so that there is a commotion that always produces victims in it.

However we always hope for the best, football is more fun when the fans are orderly until the game is over, but yes as I said there are always people between one of the two camps of fans who make the security hassle, and it is not easy to control thousands of fans who are in a heated situation especially when the team they are proud of loses, and sometimes things like that are very likely to happen when you don't make fun of the opposing fans at all, so I think it is very difficult to really prevent, unless you just watch at home.
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: March 07, 2024, 05:58:47 PM

Anyone taking profit from his bitcoin investment with the idea of buying back when the bitcoin price dumps is taking a great risk because that person will not be patient enough to wait for the bitcoin price to dump so that he or she can buy back his bitcoin because the bitcoin price keeps going high. FOMO will make that person buy back his bitcoin, even with the profit the person took from his bitcoin investment, just to be among those who are holding bitcoin in case bitcoin does the unbelievable. The person will be buying back less of the quantity of bitcoin he or she sold out because of the high price of bitcoin. 

People doing that is not really for long term since if they aim to hodl they would never think about selling their bitcoin when they see a pump and think about buying again when the price dump. The person who doing that are traders and I guess there's really a high risk for them to lose their money if they repeatedly doing this schemes. And won't recommend this to newbies especially if they don't know what to do next and much really better to anyone if they just hold their bitcoin and aim for long term since this will give them more decent result, also for that they would not get affected on any FOMO circulating around.

Yes, that's right, I think we can already conclude that they are typical investors who want to quickly profit from the results of their accumulation so that they always think about cashing out as soon as possible, or simply when they see a situation that is quite profitable or there is an increase in the amount of their accumulation due to the increase in bitcoin they will not hesitate to immediately decide to cash out, on the other hand I don't know the problem but certainly the reason is that in my opinion they are too worried and don't seem ready to maintain accumulation in the long run, the fear is that they are worried that a bad situation will happen to bitcoin so that when they see an opportunity they don't hesitate to cash out as soon as possible.

On the other hand, yes, basically our intention and purpose of getting involved in investing is to make a profit in any way and one of them is by buying when the price drops and selling when the price is high enough, I think it doesn't matter because it is indeed a method that many investors choose, and also every investor has their own choices regarding the methods and approaches they have to their bitcoin accumulation. So maybe I will not say that the short-term method is wrong, because if for example they are able to maintain and balance the following as well as knowing what to do everything well it is good and will not be a problem, but maybe the difference is in terms of profit is not too maximum between investors who always cash out in the short term and investors who always maintain their bitcoin accumulation in the long term such as 10 - 15 years, the difference in my opinion is because when you choose a short-term method there will be a slight delay in terms of profit while it will not happen when you always choose to maintain and have a long-term approach.
207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: March 07, 2024, 05:27:16 AM

Yes, this can be beneficial for yourself if you implement it as well as possible. Yes, the majority of gamblers will not be able to do all that because it could be that in the future they will be faced with temptations that can fade their good behavior. .
And this also greatly influences changes in his behavior, when he is on the right path then he will be on the wrong path because he has exceeded the limits in the gambling bets he makes, that is, he often loses money and the regrets he will get. .

True, the problem is that it is not that easy to do some of the actions that are recommended and also the best to do for good, one of the reasons is because as you said that there are so many temptations in gambling that it can make a gambler even forget some of the limits that they have made before and also as we know that everyone has a "forgetful" nature in him, so it is very possible that they forget some of the limits or controls that they have made just because they see and are tempted by the many temptations that are in every session they do.

I think one of the keys is "decisiveness", you need to really apply this to your boundary planning because this is the only way you will at least be able to realize that everything you see is nothing more than a temptation that ultimately makes the situation worse, like when you are in a winning situation where most gamblers apply greed that ends up in a much worse situation.
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: March 07, 2024, 04:48:48 AM
No, it's not like gambling is gambling. When it comes to addiction, the game matters. I bet no one will get addicted to gambling if they only had to play chess with money because chess is a game where you need to remember many combinations and make your brain work very hard, it's exhausting for many people and I bet someone would rarely get addicted to gambling if we only had chess games in casinos.
Slot Machines are the most addicting games in the world. Overall, easier and potentially the more (frequently) rewarding the game is, the more addictive it is.
Yes, the reason why slots are so addictive is because slots are exciting and the chances of a big win are usually high because slots usually have huge jackpots that can be won. In many cases this opportunity requires a maximum bet slots take a portion of the money from each bet made and add it to the jackpot. So the jackpot keeps growing until some lucky winner hits it savings can come from different machines of the same type. The jackpot can grow very quickly but it must be kept in mind that gambling in any game is harmful if it becomes addictive. A person addicted to gambling spends most of the day thinking about gambling and is ready to increase the amount of bets which leads them to more losses.

That's right, I agree with that, of most types of gambling, slots are the ones that seem to be more popular lately, usually this type of gambling is more liked by young people and even the elderly, for no other reason than as you said. there are quite high wins in this type of gambling, as the chance of getting the maximum win is quite large, and most gamblers expect that.

Another reason is because this type of game like slots is very easy to play and doesn't require any experience or skills, you just need to understand the game you want to play and after that you just need to open the screen, press and wait for the results. This is one of the reasons why people prefer this type of gambling over others, because it is quite easy to play and does not require any experience unlike sports betting. On the other hand, I have a neighbor and also a friend who is really addicted to this type of slot game, he even dares to use the money of the company where he works just to gamble, this is very worrying.
209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 07, 2024, 03:13:27 AM
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Everyone is happy with the name of victory or when they get a win, but if the partner can think wisely about the gambling habits of his partner then I think it should not be for him to feel too happy with the victory that his partner managed to achieve because of course they will think that defeat will definitely occur which may even be with a greater amount than the previous victory that his partner managed to get. So the point is that people who really love are those who are able to think about the good for their partners in the long run, so I am sure that if your partner is able to think rationally then he will definitely advise you to stop gambling even though you just got a big win.
No one would really be happy to know that their partner had lost all his money and savings to gambling. A real and caring partner would see to it that their partner stops anything that would put their relationship in jeopardy. This practice would actually help to prevent situations like this that are likely to occur.
Gambling as it's fun, can sometimes be destructive that's when one becomes addicted and spends far more than he is supposed to spend on gambling. If gambling is taken for fun only, we won't have much of addicts that will loss their sense of reasoning just because of gamble. Let's all be wise when it comes to situations like this to avoid causing problem's for our self.

Yes, the point is that if they really love their wife/husband then obviously they will tell their partner to stop gambling, no matter how much they win and no matter how much they win, because it is nothing more than a lucky situation that will not always be repeated in the future, and it means that it is very likely that in the next few sessions they lose and lose some money.

However, overall gambling is an activity that jeopardizes life in many aspects, not only will it destroy the financial situation but it can also cause a lot of problems in friendships, or family relationships. I think gambling will only be truly enjoyable when you are able to treat gambling activities properly according to what most people suggest or according to a rational point of view about gambling itself, because obviously there is absolutely no pleasure when a gambler has entered the addiction phase where all situations will be dominated by tension and pressure. So it's really a choice, and I think the wise and best choice is to stop or not gamble at all, this is what you should do if you really don't want to experience any bad possibilities in the future.
210  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Dengan Uang Pinjam & Mempercayakan Trading Ke Orang on: March 05, 2024, 03:52:32 PM
Nasehat kecil yang selalu di sampaikan oleh orang terdahulu bahwa jangan bermain dengan uang pinjaman untuk mencari keuntungan karena akan berdampak pada resiko yang jauh lebih besar. Begitu sebaliknya dengan menggunakan uang pinjaman dalam melakukan trading dan kita sudah menambah masalah baru dalam kehidupan karena fluktuatif harga tidak dapat dijamin bagaimana proses trading yang kita lakukan bisa memberikan keuntungan. Tetapi pola pikir sebagian orang justru berbeda pada saat mereka membangun bisnis dan hampir banyak orang melakukan pinjaman untuk mengembangkannya.

Jika seseorang ingin terlibat di dalam trading namun tidak memiliki modal yang besar maka sebaiknya dekati investasi secara bertanggung jawab karena kita bisa menggunakan pola DCA sebagai langkah untuk memaksimalkan dengan jumlah modal yang dimiliki. Setelah keuntungan di dapatkan kita bisa mengalokasikan sejumlah yang mampu untuk trading yang diinginkan meskipun membutuhkan waktu yang sedikit lebih lama.
Itu terlalu memaksakan diri ketika seseorang mengambil pinjaman yang akan digunakan untuk trading, dan seperti yang kita tahu memaksakan diri adalah sesuatu hal yang tidak bagus terlebih itu jika dilakukan untuk sesuatu yang beresiko sangat besar seperti trading. Jika kita ingin trading maka sebaiknya menggunakan uang pribadi dan itupun harus uang dingin atau dengan kata lain uang yang benar benar tidak untuk kebutuhan apapun. Mungkin benar bahwa tanpa mengambil resiko kita tidak akan pernah sukses, namun itu juga harus dipahami secara menyeluruh, sebab menurut saya itu tidak bisa dipahami sebagai kata kata saja, melainkan ada makna dibalik semua kata kata itu.
Lebih baik untuk menunggu lebih lama untuk kita bisa trading daripada harus mengambil pinjaman. Kita bisa menabung terlebih dahulu atau mencari penghasilan tambahan untuk kita alokasikan untuk trading.

Benar gan, dan salah satu hal yang pasti akan di alami oleh trader yang bertrading menggunakan uang pinjaman yaitu mereka pasti akan mengalami tekanan psikologis yang tidak biasa, atau maksudnya menggunakan uang pinjaman untuk bertrading akan bisa mengganggu psikologis dalam pikiran kita, sementara disisi lain trading sangat membutuhkan ketenangan untuk bisa benar - benar mengambil keputusan yang tepat, dan terkadang tidak sedikit juga yang mengambil keputusan cukup ceroboh walaupun mereka menggunakan anggaran pribadi.

Bagaimanapun trading selalu tentang dua hal yaitu peluang keuntungan dan juga resiko kerugian, artinya kita tidak boleh untuk terlalu memaksakan diri kalau memang tidak memiliki cukup uang untuk terlibat dalam perdagangan karena bagaimanapun kemungkinan resiko tidak akan selalu bisa sepenuhnya di hindari dalam setiap sesi. Banyak yang menderita jumlah kerugian yang cukup besar ketika mereka bertrading menggunakan dana pinjaman, salah satu hal yang menjadi penyebabnya menurut saya adalah karena adanya gangguan psikologis yang bisa sangat mengganggu kita dalam hal mempertimbangkan ketika sedang melakukan analisis untuk mengambil sebuah keputusan, dan ketika memang hasilnya meleset dalam artian rugi maka kemungkinan besar anda akan mencoba untuk bertrading lebih agresif dengan tujuan ingin memulihkan keadaan atau mengembalikan sesuatu yang sudah hilang yang sebenarnya malah berpotensi untuk menambah jumlah kerugian. Jadi tentu kesimpulannya seperti yang agan sarankan disini bahwa lebih baik kita menunggu saja sampai memiliki anggaran yang sekiranya tidak akan terpakai untuk hal lain atau kebutuhan lain dalam hidup, ini akan bisa lebih membuat anda tenang ketika melakukan analisis untuk mengambil keputusan yang tepat dalam situasi tertentu.
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow on: March 05, 2024, 03:07:22 PM
Yes we are of the same mind. After all there is absolutely no consistency in terms of the results of gambling especially for winnings, everything is random and means that all gamblers will always find one of the two answers at the end of the session such as winning and losing, anyone will never know the results of his gambling. So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that they can have a long-term winning streak in gambling, unless they can show the winning transactions but I think that's too impossible.

The point is that gambling is not a place that can provide anyone with income especially in a long-term streak, because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to always win, and also for the problem of winning is always about the situation of "coincidence" which is clearly not known in advance that the victory will occur. On the other hand, healthy gambling is gambling by balancing the financial situation as you said, such as putting the amount you can afford to lose because this is the best approach if you want to avoid the possibility of bad gambling in the long run.
Gamblers would really be having that never ending search for answers and proofs that their strategies would really be working until they would really be keeping on making those deposits until they would really be losing up that big time. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on how to make yourself that having the control because if you dont then you would really be keeping on pushing until you would really be satisfying yourself whether it would work or not. If it gets busted then you would really be looking for another and the cycle continues.
As long you wont really be making yourself that getting satisfied on the things that you are seeking then you wont really be stopping yourself.

Strategies could really be only applied into those strategic based games on which it would really be requiring that sufficient experience and skills towards it, but somewhat it would really be still that requiring that luck factor for you to be overall be able to win up the game. This is gambling/betting on which it would be still heavily relies on luck. There's no way that you could
be able to control nor influence on how lucky you would be on a particular point.

We must understand that gambling is an activity that cannot be learned, this is not a lesson in school or anything that we can find the point of truth, gambling is very simple which is about winning and losing, but the problem is that gambling has absolutely no certainty whatsoever to actually be able to give you a guarantee that you will be able to win.

In fact, until whenever you will never know the truth, as the OP said that "what works now may not work tomorrow", in the sense that when you manage to get a win with strategy A then it is not necessarily tomorrow you can get another win even by using the same strategy as before, and obviously in such a situation you will definitely try to find other things or other ways such as ways B to Z, which actually have nothing to do at all to realize your hopes. On the other hand yes I agree with you that strategies will only be useful for types of gambling such as sports that require it to consider a team from their track record to make a decision, but yes still in the end luck is always an important thing that determines whether your prediction is correct or misses. But if you apply a strategy to a type of gambling that has no track record then I think your strategy will be useless and it will only waste your time.
212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 05, 2024, 02:48:25 PM
Probably the topic assumes that the gambler lose everything as in including the funds which they are both save. This is the common reason why married couple destroyed when the problem is due to gambling addiction.

Some people can’t stand already their partner once he already affected the family finances in general. No one will gonna have a problem if the gambler still earn or doesn’t loss since it’s still part of entertainment but I believe even can’t stand a husband/wife that spend too much in gambling to the point that your family savings is already at loss.

But that makes what I’m saying. It’s foolish for a partner to be all in love and happy when their other partner is winning all the gamble. But when he/she loses, the love is gone and you want a divorce. If it were me, I’d divorce her because it means that she never really loved me. When you love someone, you should be with them at their worst (especially if you were always with them at all the bright times).

The outcome of gambling is always about winning and losing, I understand what you mean here in that we have to look more at the idea of a "habit that has the potential to create bad situations", I understand that winning is possible and maybe even by a large amount but isn't losing also a possibility? Obviously, that means losing and winning are the outcome of gambling and losing is a situation that you will definitely experience at any time and even dominantly.

Everyone is happy with the name of victory or when they get a win, but if the partner can think wisely about the gambling habits of his partner then I think it should not be for him to feel too happy with the victory that his partner managed to achieve because of course they will think that defeat will definitely occur which may even be with a greater amount than the previous victory that his partner managed to get. So the point is that people who really love are those who are able to think about the good for their partners in the long run, so I am sure that if your partner is able to think rationally then he will definitely advise you to stop gambling even though you just got a big win.
213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow on: March 04, 2024, 01:16:09 AM
How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
I don't really believe in gambling where I win regularly. Moreover, the fact that I will win consecutively is also not acceptable. What I want to say is that there are wins and losses in gambling, a gambler must try to employ that strategy and they should have different strategies. But a gambler can never be sure that he will win his game. We know that if a gambler follows the martingale method where his odds are high, he cannot be sure to win where he can. Maybe you win 3 times in a row then your chances of losing are high. Similarly when losing and raising your bet, if it misses a few times it can be a big loss for you. So a decision should be taken considering one's financial position.

Yes we are of the same mind. After all there is absolutely no consistency in terms of the results of gambling especially for winnings, everything is random and means that all gamblers will always find one of the two answers at the end of the session such as winning and losing, anyone will never know the results of his gambling. So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that they can have a long-term winning streak in gambling, unless they can show the winning transactions but I think that's too impossible.

The point is that gambling is not a place that can provide anyone with income especially in a long-term streak, because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to always win, and also for the problem of winning is always about the situation of "coincidence" which is clearly not known in advance that the victory will occur. On the other hand, healthy gambling is gambling by balancing the financial situation as you said, such as putting the amount you can afford to lose because this is the best approach if you want to avoid the possibility of bad gambling in the long run.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 04, 2024, 12:11:09 AM
When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
Never happened to me.

But this is one reason why a couple breaks up, finances. It's okay when any of you gambles but when coming to a point that both of your finances have been affected. Then, don't expect that relationship is going to last.

Whether you like it or not, a foundation of having a great finance is what making marriage and relationships lasts. And when it's teared down by gambling, it's hard to put that back with those little pieces.

Finances are very important in family relationships because this is what can keep you and your family alive, and yes what you say is true that gambling is one of the activities that can destroy a person's relationship, especially those who are married, where they will definitely experience some financial problems if their gambling activities have exceeded reasonable limits.

It is not uncommon for me to see several family relationships that eventually break down because one of the couples is involved in gambling activities and also I have one of my neighbors who experienced a case like this, which in the end there was no other decision they took other than agreeing to divorce. It was a very desperate situation, not only was it financially devastating but the family relationship was also devastated and obviously I can't imagine the pressure that was felt in that situation. So in my opinion there is nothing better than to quit gambling at all costs, or at least try to be a responsible gambler by only putting in the amount you can afford to lose, and along with that turn your attention to other things.
215  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: March 03, 2024, 11:21:17 PM
Selama saya trading saya tidak pernah mengunakan robot untuk mengontrol jalannya trading saya. Saya lebih manual artinya membeli dengan pemikiran saya sendiri dan juga menjual dengan tingkat kepercayan dari dalam diri saya sendiri. Nah kalau robot itu kan di program untuk melakukan kegiatan trading dari hasil program yang di buat oleh mereka jadi jika kita percaya sama robot tentu saja kita harus percaya sama program yang telah mereka buat.

Saya sedikit awam tentang robot trading karena tidak pernah memakainya. tapi tergantung sama masing masing sih jika tidak punya banyak waktu pastinya mereka menggunakan jasa robot untuk bertrading. Tapi resiko menggunakan robot lebih besar karena kita sudah mempercayai pihak ketiga dalam mengontrol uang kita.
Memang menurut saya juga lebih baik trading dengan proses yang kita lakukan sendiri, dari mulai analisa hingga tahap eksekusi, karena jika hanya mengandalkan robot kapan kita akan berkembang lebih baik lagi dalam trading? mungkin ya itu cukup mudah karena kita hanya mengikuti robot saja, namun itu juga tidak menjamin keuntungan datang pada kita juga bukan? jika dengan menggunakan robot trading kita dijamin akan mendapatkan keuntungan maka mungkin saya akan menjadi orang pertama yang terus menerus menggunakan robot.
Namun sekali lagi itu tidak semudah itu dan tidak ada jaminan untuk kita bisa untung. Oleh karena itu lebih baik kita melakukannya secara mandiri, dari sana kita akan mendapatkan banyak pengetahuan, pengalaman yang menurut saya itu lebih penting, karena itu akan membawa kita ke perdagangan yang lebih baik lagi di masa depan.

Nah itu poinnya gan, jika kita selalu bergantung pada orang lain atau termasuk pada robot copytrading lalu kapan kita akan bisa berkembang? jujur saya setuju sekali dengan pernyataan ini karena memang setiap orang memiliki cara yang berbeda dalam hal melakukan trading untuk mencapai keuntungan yang di harapkan. Saya juga mengakui kalau memang robot itu bisa memberikan keuntungan tetapi yang namanya robot pasti akan selalu ada saja yang namanya eror secara tak terduga dan juga dari segi keuntungannya mungkin sama saja dengan ketika kita melakukan trading sendiri.

Menurut saya robot trading seperti ini hanya di khususkan untuk orang2 yang terlalu sibuk atau memiliki banyak aktivitas sehingga tidak bisa membagi waktu untuk melakukan sesi trading, atau bisa juga untuk mereka para pemula yang baru saja terlibat tanpa memiliki pemahaman mendasar tentang dunia trading, tetapi tetap saja pada dasarnya menurut saya lebih baik melakukannya sendiri. Disisi lain bisa kita lihat bahwa banyak trader yang sudah sukses dengan cara yang mereka miliki sendiri, semua kemampuan dan keterampilan yang mereka miliki tidak lain hasil dari proses dan perjuangan yang sudah mereka lewati selama masa proses belajar, dan kesimpulannya adalah tidak ada keberhasilan atau kesuksesan yang di hasilkan dari ketergantungan pada orang lain atau pada hal lain.
216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: March 03, 2024, 11:01:22 PM
That hasn't happened yet because 2030 is still a long time away. He has only lasted 2 years until now while holding on until 2030 is not easy especially if you can't manage your cash flow well.

If you have an investment plan in the next 10 years then now never look at the profits that are in your mind because it's still too far away, it's better how the accumulation can last for a long time because of course the obstacles will be even harder if you can't handle it well, so I think now maintain good cash flow then everything will be smooth in the accumulation.

Almost most investors have now been able to survive until the ATH now, because they see the benefits are close, but if there is someone from the ordinary people who can withstand the current cycle then he is great for excluding profits in the bullish now.
You are right if the target is 10 years, of course it requires a lot of patience and there are many obstacles that we have to overcome. Perhaps one of the most crucial things is the existing profits which can trigger a wrong decision if we are influenced by the desire to take short-term profits. For this reason, I agree with you that we should never calculate how much profit there is and it is better for us to continue accumulating bitcoin throughout our investment journey.

That's right, I also agree with that, maybe there are or even many investors who plan too early about the long-term accumulation they want to do on bitcoin without thinking first from various angles about whether they will be able to be patient for that long or not, it's very clear that definitely there will always be or even many temptations that look very tempting, such as the condition of Bitcoin which has experienced quite a good increase which indirectly interferes with their confidence and patience to maintain accumulation for longer according to the initial planning, and usually in terms of worries it can also be very disturbing, especially when Bitcoin experienced a fairly significant bearish phase which ultimately made them feel worried. But actually, this is a normal thing because investment is always about profits and losses, where feelings of happiness will arise when your assets experience rapid growth in terms of profits and there will also always be worries that we will feel in several situations. Therefore, of course, maybe I would also agree with your idea above that it is better for us to focus more on consistently maintaining the plans we have made before rather than taking profits too early just because you are too "tempted" by what you see, which means Patience can sometimes be more profitable, but on the other hand we also need to be careful and vigilant in the journey.
217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you had this gambling experience? on: March 03, 2024, 01:08:14 AM

The OP is stating the situation when he bets on a game without putting much effort, he will actually win. But whenever he puts too much thinking about his games, he couldn't get the results that he wanted. Well, in this case, it is all just a coincidence. I guess, the OP is just feeling that the situation is against him. But it is all in his mind.
Yes, it's just a coincidence. Sometimes people experience being lucky unexpectedly. It can be due to their efforts or just pure luck. However, this experience can make some individuals rely solely on their luck when it comes to betting, instead of putting in the necessary effort. This is a common mistake that leads to frequent losses as some people continue to believe that they are always lucky, despite it happening only a few times.

This is the way luck works because luck always comes suddenly or by chance, because it has a secret nature and anyone will never know when luck will come and when luck will disappear, so obviously this is what makes you occasionally get a win by accident. One of the reasons why gambling is called a lucky activity is because there is absolutely no certainty and guarantee that can guarantee you to win at the end of the session, randomness will always determine who will win and who will lose.

So of course this is the reason why we are more advised to gamble responsibly by having a recommended approach such as putting a lot of restrictions and along with minimizing expectations or expectations, limiting the amount of budget and time of involvement is a healthy and recommended approach, after all if we are lucky then the victory will come by itself. Yes, I understand the mistake you are referring to, which is that some people are too confident that they will get lucky and win, and that is typical of gamblers who take the chances of winning too seriously in gambling, however gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which means it should not be taken too seriously.
218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: March 03, 2024, 12:30:42 AM

I must admit, I play those slots for at least a bit quite often when I see a streamer wins a good amount. I know it doesn't mean I will win too, but I like to try my luck on those slots. It's fun. Never won anything significant this way so far though. Maybe next time, who knows? Smiley

There's something hype could bring on those winnings that's why we want to try to test out if we experience the same result and its normal especially if we are regularly watching those casino streamers, And nothing wrong with this if people think about that its bad to follow what streamers do since they are for clout, but as long as we are fine and can able to spend on the games we want to try which they stream then its good as long as we enjoy that game.

Also right who knows there will be time if luck will be in our side and we win. Some maybe say that its bad to follow them since they are for pure hype but once we know what we are doing for sure everything there will be favorable to us especially if we are only seeking for short fun.

Actually casino stremers show impressions that can make someone trapped in the same sensations and hallucinations so that some people without thinking immediately try to follow what the stremers do with the aim and hope of getting the same winning results, and the problem and concern is that they follow something that has basically been manipulated behind the scenes by the casino, The meaning is that the victory obtained by the stremer is not real, as I said above that it is a show to lure or attract the sensation of people watching until in the end most of the people who follow what the stremer does end up with regret because it turns out that the results of the experiment do not match what they have seen before from the stremer's show.

But if you really already know about the facts behind the impressions made by the stremer then maybe yes it's okay if you really want to try betting the way they do by using a large budget, because as you said that there is still a possibility for luck to come at the same time when we do the experiment, but remember you must really agree with yourself that if you lose in the end you must be able to accept it and just think of this as an experiment only.
219  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: TRADER bukanlah PENGANGGURAN on: March 03, 2024, 12:12:31 AM
itu namanya penting nya bekerja meski penghasilan nya kecil sekalipun jadi punya status sosial di masyarakat.
karena jika tetangga nya banyak yang rempong seperti kejadian di betika detik di atas maka jika hasil dari online banyak dan status di dunia nyata gemerlap punya ini itu ya sudah pasti kejadian di berita di atas bisa terjadi pada diri kita.
Kalau saya ada yang usil ngurusin hidup saya seperti di atas, akan saya laporkan ke polisi sebagai perbuatan yang tidak menyenangkan. Padahal jelas, duit kita sendiri yang bekerja peras keringat di depan PC baca chart, ya walau pun di rumah, itu semua butuh energi ekstra untuk memikirkan semua pergerakan harga ke depannya. Jadi kalau ada tetangga usil seperti di atas, ya wajib laporkan. Dia juga gak ngasih kita duit, dan kalau pun kita lagi kesusahan dia juga senang, jadi ya gitu solusinya, lapor polisi, biar kapok.

Ya sepertinya itu solusi yang bagus biar orang2 yang sering usil yang ada di sekitar kita kapok, lagipula tentu saja seperti yang agan katakan disini kalo kita terlibat dalam dunia trading itu menggunakan anggaran kita sendiri dan sama sekali tidak ada keterkaitan dengan uang orang lain atau dari segi apapun, intinya kita jangan terlalu terpengaruh saja dengan orang - orang seperti itu, tidak lain mereka hanya iri dengan apa yang sudah kita hasilkan dari trading. Dan juga sekarang adalah zamannya digital dan apapun sudah serba mudah salah satunya sudah cukup banyak pekerjaan di bidang online, dan mungkin mereka saja yang ketinggalam zaman yang akhirnya menaruh kecurigaan macam2 kepada orang2 atau tetangga yang hidupnya lebih maju tetapi kesehariannya hanya di rumah saja, mereka tidak tahu kalau sekarang adalah zamannya kerja cerdas dan bukan kerja keras. Jadi sebenarnya itu adalah penyakit iri hati yang dimana mereka tidak bisa nerima ketika melihat orang lain lebih maju, jadi menurut saya acuhkan saja, tetapi kalau memang perbuatan mereka sudah benar2 kelewatan ya mungkin solusinya seperti yang anda katakan yaitu dengan lapor polisi.
220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How your feels? on: March 02, 2024, 09:28:51 PM
I want to know how it feels among those of you who gamble using altcoins or bitcoins, basically the crypto you are using today has increased significantly, we know that in 2022-2023 coins that are small are not so valuable, and how does it feel today? Is there a little regret or do you not care because the money you lose in gambling is a necessity for you, so you don't care about the crypto you have lost in gambling for the past two years?

I find this question quite strange. I don't understand why you should feel fomo, because it not only lowers your self-esteem, but can affect your mental health. It is better not to even think about the lost profit, or before any decision to calculate the risks and accept them.

Many of us buy necessary things, such as a car, computer, etc., but hardly any of us regret that after a few years the value of these things has decreased.

One should also treat lost profits in cryptocurrencies the same way.

Right, because after all it's already passed or rice has become porridge, so maybe nothing more than regret will remain, and of course it's better to focus on new things rather than thinking or even counting the number of losses in the past, and maybe yes this is nothing more than a fomo. Because as you said, most of us have bought or want to buy necessary items such as some of the ones you mentioned here, cars, two-wheelers computers etc., and we don't mind the loss we incur from the price drop of these items after a few years. If you involve regret in gambling then obviously the regret always comes when you put in too large an amount that eventually makes you lose while on the other hand you are unable to account for it.
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