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441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 22, 2023, 06:06:49 PM
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But watching a game with a bet will give you some anxiety and out of concentration feeling because you weren't able to watch properly because you were thinking and focusing who will be the winner, right? I agree that people will learn from their past mistakes but sometimes even if they experienced worst cases, they still continue doing it, repeatedly.
Feelings of anxiety and loss of concentration when the team that is favored in betting is under pressure or is behind by the opposing team. The excitement of watching when placing a bet when the underdog team manages to make a dramatic comeback, when bettors think there is no hope anymore, but the result of the match can change before the end of the match.
This excitement will give a different feel after the match is over, they start to feel sluggish and not enthusiastic because they think they will lose, but luck is still on their side because the team they support turns ahead in the final minutes.

In conclusion, watching while putting the amount of money to bet will trigger more adrenaline, the situation will be more tense than we just watch and without betting, the anxiety of losing the team we favor is one thing but the anxiety of losing the money we bet is another thing which of course thinks people who watch while betting will focus more on the money they bet, or that means the tension that occurs there as a result of the fear of losing the money they bet.

So if they feel a very tense sensation like that I think it's likely that they put an amount that they can't afford to lose, because it looks like the pressure reaction they feel when watching it already reflects the fear of losing the money they bet, in the sense that they come not for pleasure but hope for a victory.
442  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most Traders are Not Profitable on: December 21, 2023, 07:26:59 PM
Most traders suffer because they cannot be patient. Both profit and loss are our trading, if a trader only wants to make profit but never want to see his money in loss then his trading skill is quite wrong. The market is changing every moment and the change is only positive or negative. Buying a coin during a positive change and if the market turns negative will result in temporary losses. The mistake we make when the temporary loss occurs is whenever the market goes down a bit and when the market stays there for two to three days we panic and panic and sell our coins at a relative loss which is a big wrong decision for us. Every trader who can patiently wait for profit during losses will definitely profit.
Trading does not demand patience. Trading requires skill and experience.  But if you want to invest for long term, a lot of patience is required. The reason for losing instead of profiting through trading is that he does not have enough knowledge about trading.  And not doing potential market analysis. There are many people who think trading is too easy after seeing other's profit and rush to trade and that is why they lose while trading.

But is waiting for the right moment to open a trade according to our strategy not patience? Of course, I don't think patience can always be taken away from traders, they trade using a strategy and don't just open trades, which means they will wait for the right time that suits their strategy to then open a trade to make a profit. Not only that, trading is not always profitable and that means that every trader cannot completely avoid losses and isn't patience also needed in situations that are experiencing losses? if there is no patience it means that traders will act recklessly because of the encouragement of emotions that are not restrained.

For other things I quite agree with you that experience which will become a skill is also very much needed in the world of trading, I honestly admit that one of the reasons traders experience losses is because they do not have qualified understanding and skills but they are desperate to trade because they are motivated by people who have managed to get big profits, even though there is something that the person has and does so that he can get big profits, namely qualified understanding and skills that they get from his experience.
443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 21, 2023, 07:07:47 PM

While children's gambling habits can still be monitored by their parents, it becomes difficult when adults fall addicted to gambling.
In most cases, their family only identifies the habit when he has already become addicted to it.
The best thing is to do is for the individual to become self aware and manage the risk appetite.
Either we should become responsible towards gambling or never gamble at all.

But on the other hand not always all parents can fully supervise any activity carried out by their children, there will always be situations where parents are quite careless or there may even be some parents who do not pay too much attention to their children, another thing is that if parents really know that their children are involved in gambling then I think it is likely that they will immediately stop the activity carried out by their children, and not instead supervise the gambling carried out by their children. After all gambling as a whole is bad because of the significant impact it can have and obviously it can put children's futures at risk.

I think your scenario is a little upside down, where you say that adults are more difficult to overcome in gambling problems, we must understand the difference in character between children and adults, where children are still very unstable and have a very high level of curiosity about anything including gambling, while those who are adults already have common sense, which means they can fully distinguish between good and bad. So in terms of recovery and change for the better I think adults are easier to overcome than small children who are still very unstable in their thinking, for example maybe you have also seen some small children who cry when their wishes are not approved by their parents.

But overall there is absolutely nothing good about the two characters above if indeed both are involved in gambling, of course, however gambling is an activity that is not recommended because of the bad effects that can occur at any time, that's right, one of the things that must be done by the people around him is to try various things to restore his awareness so that he can understand the dangers of gambling.
444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 21, 2023, 06:40:24 PM

I think for this problem it really comes back to everyone's choice and also with what they want and what their purpose is involved, the logic is clear as you said if indeed they come only for entertainment then the question is why they watch while betting? isn't watching the game running just that entertaining enough? but yes as I said above that all this depends on their choice, maybe they will really be able to feel the pleasure if they watch while betting.

I just hope whoever it is will stay well and be able to maintain their bank balance by only putting the amount they can afford to be responsible for whatever the outcome is, especially losing.
Of course not everyone watches sports for entertainment. Some also enjoy playing for betting results. Moreover, gamblers tend to pay more attention when watching a game than other people. But it is entirely up to one's choice what to do. There are many gamblers who are not motivated to watch the game unless they are betting. But the main thing is that those who are able to control themselves in gambling can enjoy their gambling or else there is a possibility of losing all their money.

The difference in perspective is one of the differences that is quite striking about what they want, whether watching while betting or just watching without betting, as I said earlier that there are also those who can really feel the enjoyment of entertainment when they watch while betting because it is quite involving adrenaline when they worry about potentially losing money involved at the same time.

Yes that's right, for people who choose to watch while betting I would give the same ideas and advice as you said, however if you do put money on the line then obviously this is a risky activity even though they basically want entertainment, because risk cannot always be avoided even if they are very optimistic in determining the team they choose, so one solution to minimize disappointment is to be strict with the limits they have set and by only using enough money as well as minimizing expectations on the final result.
445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 20, 2023, 01:01:35 PM
The fact that Bayern was beaten, shouldn't make people especially their fans to start blaming them. Although Frankfurt is a small team with a very poor performance this season when compare with Bayern. But this is football. One should expect such to happen once in a while. Although this defeat may come because Bayern has underrated Frankfurt being a poor team recently.
Losing to Frankfurt was not a mistake for Bayern Munich so Bayern Munich fans don't have to bring this up continuously. Because Bayern Munich still has the opportunity to get better and continue to compete to get the trophy again this season by continuing to make improvements to the way they play and the tactics they will continue to use in every match in different competitions. Because this season Bayern Munich is also very focused on the UCL so the pressure may be quite a lot and big.

But after all it is a fairly fatal carelessness which of course I think it is natural for fans to be disappointed which results in the emergence of doubts about the team they love, but maybe yes it is true that the fans should not continue to bring up the bad results because after all I think it is something that can still be said to be quite normal to happen to a team that is running the competition, it will not always be at the top but there will also be times when they occasionally feel bad results due to carelessness.

Maybe this is not a big problem for Tuchel and lately we have also seen in their last match Bayern Munich managed to get three full points in the match against Stuttgart which of course maybe that result can slightly restore the confidence of the fans, and yes after all it is true that Bayern Munich still has a pretty good chance of winning the trophy, their only barrier is Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. Well maybe the cause of this carelessness is because they find it difficult to divide the focus on two leagues which are of course equally important, not only the Bundesliga but the UCL is also a priority for Tuchel.
446  Economy / Economics / Re: Are fast-fashion shopping apps hurting local economy? on: December 20, 2023, 12:24:15 PM
I don’t have any stats to back this up, it’s all just my opinion. I think fashion shopping apps can have negative impacts on local economies. These apps promote cheap and disposable clothing which leads to a decrease in demand for locally produced and possibly higher quality garments. As a result of this, local businesses and artisans suffer which can lead to job losses & reduced economic growth. The environmental consequences of fast fashion such as excessive waste & pollution harm local ecosystems & communities. By prioritising convenience & low prices over sustainable & locally made products fast fashion shopping apps contribute to the erosion of local economies & hinder the development of sustainable & ethical fashion industries.

Yes if we look at it from one side then obviously there are negative impacts as you mentioned, lowering the purchasing power of local markets, reduced employment, the consequences of waste and excessive pollution due to the large stock of goods that are not sold in local markets, but on the other hand this is the digital era, the times are modern and everything has become very easy, especially in shopping, people no longer need to go to the market to buy something because obviously there are some allocations or expenditures of money that are not needed, such as the cost of public transportation to commute or the cost of fuel oil in the vehicle they have.

So obviously people will definitely prefer something that is more accessible, economical and the quality of the goods is not much different from those in the local market. Of course that's from my personal point of view, and maybe one way for traders not to experience a decline in purchasing power that is not too significant then maybe they should keep up with the times such as becoming one of the traders who are also engaged in online sales and not just in physical markets.
447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 20, 2023, 12:02:58 PM
yes as I said above that all this depends on their choice
I quite agree. My choice is not to watch matches in real-time and instead place my bets, choosing to check the results post-event. This approach helps mitigate intense emotions, preventing burnout from the rapid fluctuations of live events. But, of course, this is only my approach. It's a matter of personal preference and finding a balance that aligns with individual comfort levels amidst the excitement of sports and betting.

Summing up what you've said it sounds like you don't really care about the game, don't want to see the excitement of both teams putting in impressive performances for a win, simply come in with something in mind then leave and come back to make sure it's all over.

No problem mate, maybe that's just your approach and as you say that way you're more comfortable and don't feel some of the pressure of significant fluctuations which can be quite nerve-wracking. I repeat and as I said earlier that every gambler has their own preferences in terms of choosing what they think is good and should be done for comfort, with your own way and approach then obviously you will find a good balance whether it is in terms of bankroll or mental and psychological.
448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 19, 2023, 05:42:32 PM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.
An interesting observation, but you need to clarify how your observations took place. Did the people you are talking about have the same conditions? What type of gambling was there, at what time, on what day and many other variables.
I think the point is that a rich person has a more free attitude towards money and is not afraid of losing it, therefore he makes decisions more freely, while a poor person is more pressured by responsibility
It's true and I agree with it, but I don't think this means that the rich win more in gambling than the poor, it simply means that the rich don't care much about their losses and only focus on their gambling and the big wins they get, while the poor has more concerns about their losses because as you said, they can't be as free as the rich when it comes to money and finances because they can't afford to do that, they have to be careful with their money as they only have a limited amount of it.

So, it's all about affordability and concern that makes things look different and not the wins or losses because a casino wouldn't deliberately make the rich win more and make the poor win less because they are going to get their revenue anyway, and they can get even more if the rich lose because they are generally high rollers.

Well your idea is right, it's just the difference between the two situations between the poor and the rich and of course I also think that financial strength is not a determinant of who will win more or more often, you've said the basic difference is that the rich have more power in terms of money which means that losing is less of a problem for them. The level of worry also plays a role in this, as you said that the difference between rich people and poor people is in terms of reaction when they lose, poor people have a spontaneity that tends to feel more disappointed than rich people who don't care much about losing.

And also another thing is in terms of opportunities, simply put the poor have far fewer opportunities when they lose, meaning that the rich have the money to make 10 attempts and the poor may only have a chance of 1/2 time or even not be able to do it again when in the early stages all their money is used up with just one attempt and of course cannot continue to the next session. So for the winning problem I think it is not related to the problem of being poor or rich because it depends more on luck.
449  Economy / Economics / Re: New business idea. on: December 19, 2023, 12:40:53 PM
The kind of business I want to share is what is called graundnut oil making. This business idea can help someone that doesn't even have a skill and someone that is not even educated, all the person just needs to have is the money to buy the manufacturing equipment that's all.
With this graundnut oil making business, one can get the kind of life he/she wanted because the demands in this graundnut oil making business are a bit high. One can even start with a little money. However, this business is also an investment. If one can dedicate more time to it, he/she can benefit from it (can make it a company).
To run a business, you must first understand the demand for the product you want to do business. It may be that the product you are trying to manufacture is a new product that is not in demand, but if you can give customers a good idea of your product and if it is really good quality, then you will be more likely to be profitable in that business. There will definitely be risks in business, but if you start, it is possible to get either positive or negative results. There are risks in business but once established there is a chance to be profitable for life. It will depend on the attitude of the entrepreneur. In my opinion you can start the business with a well researched. At first you won't get profit but as your business gets promoted and expanded there will definitely be opportunities to make profits.

Maybe what you mean is that before someone starts a business they must first do market research which means finding out about what products now have a high level of demand from most of the community, of course that is one of the important actions that must be taken before someone starts running their business, starting from knowing what products have great potential in public demand and after that building plans and strategies carefully and preparing capital that is able to sustain the course of the business by also preparing mentally and strong patience then I think they will be able to run it smoothly even though any difficulties are still not avoidable.

We must understand that the business world is very tight especially along with the development of increasingly modern or sophisticated times, this makes it possible for competitors to make many advantages with something more that they have and of course we don't have, and that is one of the risks that will very likely occur. Anyone will never know if they will succeed and get success from the business they run but what is certain is that if we really want to try and work hard then I think nothing is impossible.
450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 19, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
Just trying to get the communities opinion based on their experience about the topic.

Personally, a a bettor, I find it very stressful when watching the game you are betting especially if it will end up a losing bet.

If we have the same experience, how do you cope up with that problem, after all, gambling should be fun but why we have this kind of feeling that we feel disappointed when our bet loses?
If for Fun only? of course without bet because you know you are losing nothing but a chance but if you are looking for Fun and possible profit so it is with bet , I hope that you have a chance to win and have fun as well , gamble with money that you can afford to lose or else you will lose everything.

I think for this problem it really comes back to everyone's choice and also with what they want and what their purpose is involved, the logic is clear as you said if indeed they come only for entertainment then the question is why they watch while betting? isn't watching the game running just that entertaining enough? but yes as I said above that all this depends on their choice, maybe they will really be able to feel the pleasure if they watch while betting.

I just hope whoever it is will stay well and be able to maintain their bank balance by only putting the amount they can afford to be responsible for whatever the outcome is, especially losing.
451  Economy / Economics / Re: New business idea. on: December 18, 2023, 12:28:50 AM
Before starting a business, what you must instill in yourself is to have a strong intention and determination to advance your business consistently. And apart from that, you also have to have a good strategy to be able to compete and you also have to have good quality goods and good marketing and affordable prices.
And most successful business people must be able to get through the first 3-5 years of struggle to start their business until it becomes big or advanced, and this must be thought about first. Especially capital, and other problems that will be faced and so on, you have to think about it and be ready to take risks not to give up.

The point is that everyone who wants to enter and compete in the business world then obviously the first thing they have to prepare and the most important thing is to have a strong mentality, good planning and good management, you will never know that there will always be competitors who are much stronger and who have more preparation than you, so of course they must have the things I mentioned and you mentioned too before finally getting involved in the business world. For the capital problem I think it is now less of a problem because obviously there are enough loan services that can provide you with capital as long as you are really very confident in the plan and the business you are going to build, but on the other hand I admit that it is better to use personal money because then you will not feel much pressure from the money you use.

True, although it looks long enough but I think it doesn't matter because it's a process to achieve success and success in running your business, there are always failures along the way but that's natural because you are undergoing a process, usually people will really fail when they are unable to withstand or face all the difficult processes in the business they build, and that is why some fail and some succeed, success is only for those who really want to struggle and try hard at all costs.
452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 18, 2023, 12:07:17 AM

One way to always avoid this, make sure that you stake responsibly and gamble with the amount you can afford to lose, when you go above your power, you will feel uncomfortable watching that match freely. In short, you wouldn't mind entering the TV screen just to make sure your predictions come true. It is better to bet with the amount you have and can lose to avoid stories that touch the heart later.
Another way to avoid it is to not take it too seriously. It is supposed to be fun and not some very serious business. So sit back relax, have some fun. I don't think it is wise thing to count your winnings before the outcome. Counting it, puts you on the edge and  you have nothing on your mind other than that. You become nervous and too focused on the game.

Actually it's not the casino or the final result that makes you disappointed but rather it's your own hopes and expectations that make you finally feel disappointed and sorry, if we take it casually and not too seriously as you suggest then I think you will still be fine even if the final result is not what you expected, which is why putting a small budget is highly recommended because with that the level of disappointment they feel will also not be too significant and can still be accepted properly.

Of course that's true, gambling is not a necessity and anyone has the freedom to bet but it is expected and recommended that it is better to use a small budget because as I said above, and also gambling will be more fun if we come with the intention of not overdoing it and focus only on enjoying every sensation we get, on the other hand too focused on the final results of betting will make us feel a little worried and by using a small budget I think you will not experience the pressure that can make you worry enough.
453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 04:12:51 PM
I didn't watch the first half of the Arsenal vs Brighton game, but I can't believe that Arsenal had 15 shots and Brighton zero... I expected both teams to score a goal... I hope that the second half will be with goals from both teams...
I find it weird too to go full defence and not reaching the goalie. Brighton will count only on counterattack? The response came fast and gunners scored a goal. The result is 1 - 0 and Brighton coach has to change his strategy.

Brentford 1 - 0 Aston Villa which were expected to win in this match. There is still half an hour to try to reverse the score hopefully.
Meanwhile, Ten Hag must be stressed and sweating right now. Previous Manchester United coaches including Mourinho were sacked after humiliating defeats against Liverpool. United already had a very bad results, being kicked from UEFA Champions League and his odds to be fired after that match are high. He has to win or at least grant one point from that match!

Aston Villa was able to get back up and equalize the position then finally returned to maximize the additional goal in the 85th minute, but Aston Villa had to pay a heavy price for this victory because Kamara was awarded a red card. On the other hand, it is certainly a loss for Brentford because they lost plus the player had to get a red card. Well this is quite equal for each club. With a winning record, Aston Villa has now placed itself in second place behind Arsenal, who has just won full points over Brighton. So Liverpool's task is to put more pressure on them to achieve a landslide victory. I will not doubt this match because based on several matches at home, Liverpool can always control the game and win. Moreover, Man United is being hit by injuries, the line up is also not very ideal in my opinion. Liverpool need 3 points to regain their position at the top of the standings, so this could be a pretty hot match.
454  Economy / Economics / Re: My view of wealth and assets specially now on: December 17, 2023, 04:02:41 PM
I trust btc / gold and cash.
It's too bad many of us experinces a lot banking errors like the online banks don't work and cybercrimes in otherwords our money is not in safe and all those online bank wallets not always working good.
Gold offcourse If you can hold it where good place to storage i trust physical locations Smiley for example London and i can get credit on my gold collateral aswell Smiley

I don't think real estate and property is area of speculation i see real estate as place where to live and good for people to have some place to live as home.
The real estate prices don't make any sense because they are in the DEBT ECONOMY i stay away from debt economy yes you could make good profit but since debt economy bubble can pop it can trigger fast and you might not get out you can lose fast.

I stay away debt and i don't play or speculate things what not backed of any value.
One day all those debt economy gamblers will learn Lesson hard way , yes you can make money like taking the mortgage and then renting out ....but here is the thing it's like a gamble you can win a lot but can lose fast.
everything is in a  gray area when you are  constantly alert but on the other hand try to advise yourself by  keeping it with a third party. Isn't that the same as giving up your rights? Gold and real estate have risks even Bitcoin has the same risks, here we cannot  play safe if we are not ready to face the risks. Because if there is a safe choice then  everyone in the world will experience wealth equally. Therefore there is always a risk for those who dare to bet.

Likewise with mortgages if you look at the profit cycle during the covid 19 pandemic it is clear that there is a big bubble that provides multiple profits. When placing any investment if you are able to understand the market situation and conditions then you can play in it. Now that the era of digitalization is almost familiar Bitcoin is the top of the chain where everything will lead to the same point.  Mass adoption has shifted towards increasingly expanding people access in the world,  they just need to make a  decision and be ready for all the risks.
455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prove me wrong: Gambling is both more relaxing and entertaining than trading! on: December 17, 2023, 03:07:20 PM
There's no doubt gambling is more entertaining. However, gambling is considered to be more risky than trading. Gambling was created as a way to provide entertainment for people who are looking for some enjoyment or an activity to relax. That's why a lot of people prefer to spend more time in gambling than trading. Trading can be more fun especially when you understand the market by knowing how to do Technical Analysis, and also if you are making profits out of your trading. Aside from that, in trading you should be serious in everything, in return, if you win, the happiness of predicting the market right is really fun.

I think whether gambling is entertaining or not really depends on how people treat and respond to gambling itself, if they come firmly just looking for fun and entertainment then obviously it will happen, but on the other hand there are also many who come with the aim like they trade that is looking for income, no other mistake in understanding what gambling is the main cause, they misunderstand just because there is a chance of winning there so it makes them act out of control just because to realize their hopes and expectations.

Back to the original topic, basically trading is not intended for anyone to seek entertainment because there is no aspect that can make you entertained except for some thrill from the profit you managed to get and make your planning go well. Trading in particular is a place to build a career of success with the success of the learning process and the experience you do and get that can certainly make you consistently profitable, but that is not in the concept of gambling, and that is why many say that gambling should be considered as a place of entertainment only and nothing more than that.
456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 17, 2023, 02:35:42 PM
Watching with bet used to be more enjoyable than just watching a match. When you've placed a bet on a match, it makes us watch the match and gives us the opportunity to avoid loss if things were against our prediction. Apart from the same my preference used to be live betting which lets us predict the outcome in a much closer manner.

Not for me though, when I watch the game and I see my team aren't playing well, everytime I do a live bet, I have experience losing most of the time. So it's not working for me, watching it and thinking of live betting will only make the situation worse, unless you are a professional sports bettor and you have a data to back up your pick, however, if it's "emotion-based" bet, forget it.

We're the same, that's why I don't really watch anymore when I have a bet because I can't focus watching because the other half of my mind is busy thinking about my bet and thinking if I'm going to win or not, seems like being an overthinker can really manifest the thing that they're thinking which somehow results of losing.

I think it's better to keep those two things separate, or I mean if you want to bet then focus on your betting and if you're just there for the fun of the match you're watching then it's better not to put money into the match you're watching, or I mean don't bet at the same time when you're focused on the fun of the match that's going on.

But on the other hand I think it's all about choice, each individual has the freedom to choose whether they will watch while betting or not, and also each gambler has a different level of pleasure, there are also those who can get 100% pleasure by having to bet on their favorite team's match. The point is I think it's better to focus on one thing only and like you said don't let our brains and minds be distracted just because of the worry of losing that could make our money disappear, so it's better to seek pleasure without risking losing.
457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 16, 2023, 03:48:19 PM
The method of having a break is actually  quite good but not everyone can do it and it also depends on what game is being played.  Just like I won't finish until all bets are actually fulfilled in some places. Then if there is  a certain moment that supports my game enough to be profitable every time I bet I can't stop and still want to maximize  the opportunity rather than having to go out for a moment. There were even times when I bet on spending everything for hours irregularly and not caring about the time.
458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 16, 2023, 03:34:29 PM
As predicted although there were some doubts for me about Tottenham in this match, but finally Tottenham can secure the full three points in this match despite having to experience a red card on one of its players midway through the second half, initially I thought that by playing with only 10 people then Nottm Forest would be able to at least catch up  with its goal towards the end of the second half but good Tottenham can break all that speculation by successfully maintaining its advantage in terms of score until the end of the minute.

With this result it is clear that at least the confidence of the fans will be restored although maybe not completely, and with this good result at least Tottenham can be a little further away from Manchester United and equalize the number of points with Manchester City. Now they have a 2-point gap with Aston Villa who are in third place in the standings and a 3-point gap with Arteta's squad, but on the other hand the problem is that several other teams, especially those in the top five area, still have one match they have not played which means they have the possibility to continue to stay away from Tottenham's pursuit. Another thing is that I hope Tottenham will again be able to win the full three points in the next match against Everton.

Even though Tottenham won 3 points over Nottinghm Forest, their actual productivity is still lower than what they did at the start of the season. So now Tottenham just need to play it safe in the position they currently occupy. And there is no need to worry about Man United because no one can pose a threat from this troubled club.

Newcastle should be able to win this match if they want to improve their position, but Fulham is also not a weak club because of the fact that they have won twice in a row so it looks like they are currently in good condition, playing as host should be Newcastle's main asset in getting full points in today's match. My prediction is that Newcastle will win 2 - 1
I don't think Newcastle will be able to win this match. Fulham is flying high at the moment and are scoring a lot of goals as it stands. Newcastle are struggling due to injuries and most of their star players are still out injured. Newcastle has been collapsing late in the game because there are no squad dept and Fulham will capitalize on this. I don't see Newcastle performing well again until January.
Returning to focus on the match that was currently taking place I was initially quite optimistic that  Fulham would be able to put up a little resistance especially in the early minutes when  he still lost a little control. However after Raul Jimenes received a red card it would  be very easy for Newcastle to make a difference  in the second half. Certainly a loss will be experienced by the Fulham  players because Newcastle has an open gap.
459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 16, 2023, 03:21:14 PM
I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
I agree with you, but the problem is that Ten Hag doesn't admit it in front of the media and continues to ramble on as if everything he does is a good decision. Surprisingly, Ten Hag is not good at covering up mistakes so no one knows at Man United that he has not made any improvements so far. Because the players realized that Ten Hag's strategy was not effective in making the opponent lose. From the selection of players who are believed to show many negative points, they are unable to improve the team as a whole. Buying Mason Mount is just to prolong the injury the choice of goalkeeper is worse than De Gea, buying Ajax players also doesn't seem to really contribute. So Ten Hag still doesn't recognize this kind of thing and is even more ignorant.
460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 01:49:23 PM
Tottenham vs Nottm Forest

I think this should be a fairly easy match for Tottenham if we reflect on their performance in their last match against Newcastle. But on the other hand there are still doubts, especially from myself to Tottenham, because they often slip lately because they cannot maintain their impressive performance. Honestly on the other hand I will not be too confident for this match and maybe I will not be able to conclude too early whether Tottenham have really returned to their impressive form if only by getting a win against Newcastle in yesterday's match. Overall I think Tottenham should be able to win this match by getting the full three points to equalize their points with Manchester City who are in 4th place or further away from the pursuit of Ten Hag's squad, but we'll see if it will be really easy for Tottenham or vice versa in tomorrow's match.
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