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181  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: November 19, 2014, 01:00:47 AM

You sound kind of mad.  Plus, I was kind of agreeing with you, so I'm not sure why you felt compelled to insult me.

Also, look at what the subject of this thread has been changed to. 

We won!

So let's be happy together.

Chill.

Deal.
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 17, 2014, 07:58:31 PM
Fly to their territory with a flip chart and some presentation packs, barge into the local mosque, introduce yourself and hope for the best. Should be fun.

We might even get to see you in a video!  *nudge nudge wink wink*
183  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: November 17, 2014, 07:41:57 PM
People who demonstrate long term trustworthiness should be able to have a higher feedback weight

Yes, and this should occur naturally, because such people naturally obtain good feedback of their own.  This gets weighted into how their own feedback is rated by a trust system.

Without saying anything derogatory about anyone in charge of DefaultTrust, it is absolutely impossible for any person to make decisions other people should trust about things like this, when they clearly have their own conflicting interests, but DefaultTrust is basically rammed down everyone's throat.  Many people don't even realize it should be turned off.

The history of people who have been on that DefaultTrust list who shouldn't have been is so long and familiar to anyone here who has paid any attention that I need not recount it.  Its history speaks for itself.

It benefits nobody except the people on it.
184  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: November 17, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
Or people like you could learn to mind your own business and research your trading partners. This seems like a much more rational solution to me.

And then you'll still be screwed by people who rely on DefaultTrust, who will see you listed as untrusted and not deal with you.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 17, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
It is called the war on drugs because the government is trying to stop the drug trade and people using illegal drugs that often are used to finance terrorism.

They're not really trying to do that.  They're trying to keep their for-profit prisons full and control the population.  Also, they use the drug trade themselves to hide at least part of the black budgets for intelligence agencies like the CIA.  Whether it's to fund the Contras during Reagan or, now, the CIA's cozy relationship with the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, the government has always played both sides of the tracks in the "drug war" game.
186  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: November 16, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
Only an idiot or someone who doesn't know you can turn it off would use DefaultTrust, which is a sick joke.  How many scammers and lunatics has that list had?
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 16, 2014, 10:24:43 PM
Feds will keep playing whack-a-mole with the darknet markets until they move onto something else ...

That would mean basically abandoning the drug war entirely.  They're not going to do that.

And if it got out that the feds were basically ignoring darknets, and throw in the fact that online ordering is vastly superior to dealing with often murderous street scum for one's buzz, the bulk of the market would move online overnight.

The federal heat is going to increase, not decrease. 

The good thing about this, for those who do not care in the least about the drug trade, is that it will inevitably lead to an arms race as surveillance and anti-surveillance technology duke it out, resulting in improved technology for the rest of us.
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 16, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
Ignorance of the law isn't a defense, even if it was plausible.
In order to be guilty of a crime the prosecution must show that the defendant intended to commit the crime he is accused of. For example if someone were to steal a pair of jeans from a clothing store, the DA must not only prove that the defendant not only stole the jeans but also intended to take the jeans without paying for them (a defense would be that the clerk did not properly ring up the jeans and put them in his bag).

That's entirely not true.  Ignorance not being a defense is such a bedrock legal principle it even has one of those fancy Latin maxims:  Ignorantia legis neminem excusat

You are talking about a specific intent crime.  In this case, the specific intent is to take the jeans without paying and, additionally, that the intent was to deprive the owner of them permanently, i.e. the codification of the old common law offense of petty larceny.  "I didn't know shoplifting was illegal" isn't a defense.  Just as "I didn't know dealing drugs was illegal" wouldn't be.

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Additionally if someone does not know that something is a crime they may receive a somewhat lighter sentence once they are found guilty 

That's an entirely different issue from whether it is a defense in the first place.  Guilt is one thing, sentence another.

In this case, though, it is completely implausible considering his public statements that Defcon was not entirely aware that there is this "drug war" thing going on and that it is highly illegal to deal in large quantities of drugs.  Considering he was denouncing the very legal scheme he was violating, he was not only aware it was illegal, it was actually his intent to violate it and to thwart the drug war entirely.

Whether or not one agrees with him in principle on that issue, that's going to be very bad at sentencing.
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 16, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
You are a terrible person.. If ISIS filth start using BTC, then you can say goodbye to the price.

He may be a terrible person, but if anything, use in a hostile operating environment by a group like ISIS would show its resilience.  And you don't get many more hostile operating environments than the one ISIS would be using it in.

I agree it shouldn't be encouraged, though.  It'll either happen or it won't.  Scum are going to flock to anything they see as untraceable and secure for their villainy, just like paper money.
190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 16, 2014, 06:15:06 AM
I would say the blake guy was almost trying to get caught as it made it very easy for the government to find his identity. I might speculate that he might use his mistakes as a defense that he was not aware as to how illegal what he was doing was illegal

Ignorance of the law isn't a defense, even if it was plausible.
191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's Net Neutrality Statement: What it Really Means on: November 16, 2014, 06:00:43 AM
You are probably right. Or at least it will be much easier for the government to seize domains in the future. From what I have read in news reports, the legal justification that the onion sites were seized were dubious at best

It is already trivial for them to seize domains.  It requires little more than them simply ordering the registrar to hand it over.  Clearly, this is legally wrong and unconstitutional, since domains are a form of intangible property, but in actual practice, they're doing it on an almost daily basis.

(Seizing .onion pseudo-domains requires actually compromising the system, though.)

This has literally next to nothing to do with net neutrality, though.
192  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 15, 2014, 08:27:43 PM
IT doesnt matter who instigated it (and the FTC isnt exactly alone in filing suits). You are bound by court rulings, the funds held by a court appointed trustee. A court wouldnt decide that without proper reason. Or do you think the judge is a moron?

Like many sociopaths, he thinks he is the smartest person in the room and everyone else is a moron.  So of course he thinks that.  People like this can be pimp-slapped by reality again and again without ever learning a thing.
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 15, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
And i think they better make their own fiat / crypto currency.

Make their own crypto with what?  How many terahashes do you think a camel can do?
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 15, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
Or maybe he was going to run with the escrow....... Sometimes the most simple answer is true (occams razor)

Why would he have previously made good on money stolen in a hack if that's the case?  All the "character evidence" so far I've seen on Defcon is that he seems to have been ideologically motivated as well as by money, and wanted to run an honest (if illegal) business.  He doesn't even have the taint of DPR's scheme of having antagonists whacked.

So I really doubt he was running off with anything.  I wouldn't be surprised, though, if the nark urged along acquiring new vendors in the hope of acquiring new investigation targets.
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 15, 2014, 07:23:18 AM
Well almost every single dollar bill (not just the 1 dollar bill but also every other denomination) has some level of drug residue on it.

That's my point.  If BTC exists long enough, every unit of currency will eventually have some taint to it.  It will have been swindled from someone, used to buy drugs or other contraband, spent by terrorists, etc.  So a scheme of simply taking such money out of circulation is foolishness.
196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's Net Neutrality Statement: What it Really Means on: November 15, 2014, 07:20:52 AM
Not that he doesn't deserve it, just not for this.

Obama attaching his name to net neutrality was guaranteed to have this result.  First, I seriously doubt his commitment to the issue, or even understanding of it, and second, it just brings the nutjobs out of the woodwork.

Net neutrality is at its fundamental level simply about treating similar traffic similarly.  The idea of metered access with fees for various types of services and degradation of quality of services based on type of traffic is the problem.  Sort of like if you got charged more for electricity based on some arbitrary criterion, or if you only were ALLOWED to have rationed electricity, unless you were a business partner with the electric company.

Now, you might say there's no real problem with metered access and charging differently and making deals, but remember, if you look at this on the protocol level, to have this kind of differentiation, you need to be able to identify both the source of data and its destination, as well as what kind of data it is, in order to differentiate between types of traffic.

By definition, any kind of anonymous traffic is going to obscure this data, and any non-neutral scheme of access is going to assign that kind of traffic the lowest possible priority.

In other words, either kiss your anonymity goodbye or get used to it being slow as fuck, because ISPs if allowed to do so will either simply drop such traffic on the floor or shunt it off the highway onto an ungraded dirt road.  Only packets that can "show their papers" will get enough bandwidth to be functional, and you can expect service to be deliberately degraded even when the infrastructure is entirely sufficient to carry it, simply to extort more fees out of you.

Needless to say, the protocol-level changes that would make it easy to meter traffic like this would also substantially help the government spy on us even more than it is already doing.

I almost wish Obama had denounced net neutrality as a right-wing scheme of some sort, then the same gibbering wackos currently attacking it would love it.
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 14, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Good old fashioned investigation. It would just take one government demanding it's businesses to subscribe to their blacklist and it would be done automatically. It could even be implemented by companies to segregate their Blockchain network.

the miners could be made to comply as well, a full p2p network mining protocol would prevent this since 99% of the network would have to agree to exclude certain transactions.

And if they do it, all the Bitcoin they have instantly becomes worthless.  It would effectively be outlawing Bitcoin, because fungibility is necessary for functionality.  It would be like scanning all cash money at the bank for drug residue, and immediately removing such money from circulation, without compensating its owner.
198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 14, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
I've read it all now.

Really?  ISIS?

Motorcycle gangs, clansmen, terrorists and druglords.  We're ready to serve you.

Odd as it may be, the use of BTC in an underground economy actually proved its resilience.

I think we can live without use by terrorists, though.  That will come soon enough anyway.
199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ISIS to create own coin. How can we convince to use Bitcoin? on: November 14, 2014, 09:35:51 AM

What the hell makes you think medieval lunatics are going to be willing to use Bitcoin, much less able to?  They take being anti-science to a whole new level, are destroying textbooks containing "haram" concepts like that the earth is round, evolution, etc.

And then there's the whole murdering people thing. 
200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's Net Neutrality Statement: What it Really Means on: November 14, 2014, 06:45:23 AM
[Farrago of non sequiturs and gibberish]

If you think Obama somehow invented the concept, you're literally too fucking retarded to talk to.  If you think he gives a shit about it, you're even more retarded.
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