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661  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners: Time to deprioritise/filter address reuse! on: November 20, 2013, 06:54:29 PM
I really don't understand why people must be FORCED to use this - i.e. get pools to enforce this rule.

But they aren't forced to use this.  Without nearly universal adoption by pools, it appears to be more a mild suggestion than a use of force.
662  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners: Time to deprioritise/filter address reuse! on: November 20, 2013, 02:55:42 AM
Luke, I know we don't see eye-to-eye on things, but respectfully, I don't see any benefit to this proposal.

I'd say about the same thing, except I'd conclude by replacing "benefit" with "harm."  

This isn't going to cause any harm to anyone, and it might cause some benefit.

For all the heat generated, where's the innocent victim its opponents can point at and cry "this person was harmed!"  There is no such person.

It may or may not be a good idea.  

However, what Luke has done seems to be the least intrusive measure possible to find out.  Whether or not he has strong opinions against what he is trying to discourage, what he has actually done is to discourage it. . .slightly.  By expressing mild disapproval of it.  And suggesting that he might express slightly less mild disapproval of it in the future.  In other words, a future intention to deprecate. . .maybe!

I can live with this.

ETA:  Also that poll sucks.  Sorry.  Really, it needs an answer that amounts to "let's collect some data and see how it works."  Because that's what I would have clicked, and it seems to be what you're actually doing.  Good idea!  But there should have been a way to approve of that.
663  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 20, 2013, 02:33:02 AM
These kind of self-absorbed, sophormic, and intellectually-meritless conversations belong in a dorm room where dummies who just took an Introduction to Philosophy or Economics can smoke cannabis and make meaningless sounds with their mouths to impress their equally sheltered peers!

I agree.

Now quit bogarting that joint, motherfucker, and pass it.
664  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-18 FORBES: Meet The 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Mu on: November 20, 2013, 02:23:22 AM
This is the best they can do?

"No one is listening... we need to PROVE that Bitcoins are dangerous and need regulation. ... See?! Anonymous currency can be used for assassinations! You NEED the regulation!"

The whole thing is clearly a ruse. I'm just waiting for the "kiddy pr0n" angle to be used next, and to flop. At that point we'll know their backs are against the wall.


Sadly, this kind of nonsense has been going around since the early days of discussion of cryptocurrency.  Jim Bell's crap was posted in 1995 at the latest.  Unlike Jim Bell, though, this idiot is actually trying to implement it, at the worst possible time.

I suppose it could be a ruse, but it seems unlikely to me.  We've had these idiots around since the beginning.
665  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-18 FORBES: Meet The 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Mu on: November 19, 2013, 06:00:18 PM
1) Countermeasure: Create 10+ sockpuppets per day to predict a certain day, remove financial incentive for real hitman.
2) Countermeasure to countermeasure: ask for specifics about the assassination
3) Countermeasure ^3: Create 1000+ sockpuppets per day, each with different descriptions, site owner gets overwhelmed, site loses functionality

Or just do Nr. 3 from the start.

Yep, incidentally, all discussed when Jim Bell shitposted the original essay that landed him in jail (well allegedly it was tax evasion and dumbass threats to the IRS guys but I doubt they would have bothered without that self-inflicted idiocy).  Yet, there are still people stupid enough to float this idea that was bad in the first place, and to attempt to implement it.

But yes, among the other reasons this "let's go around murdering people" idea is bad is "it wouldn't work anyway."
666  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-18 FORBES: Meet The 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Mu on: November 18, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
There's something about these arrogant attention whores who give interviews to Forbes like this.  DPR and this guy, specifically.  Are these clowns so desperate for attention they don't realize they're threading their own nooses and, for that matter, causing not completely insignificant damage to Bitcoin in the process?

Also, this has to rate among the dumbest sentences ever uttered:

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I also believe that as soon as a few politicians gets offed and they realize they’ve lost the war on privacy, the killings can stop and we can transition to a phase of peace, privacy and laissez-faire.

Oh, yeah, sure.  As soon as a murder machine is set up, people will just stop using it after the good murders are done.  Nobody will ever use it for bad, evil murders!  Idiot.  What planet is this guy from?

I guess the only good thing about this is we may very soon find out just how good the de-anonymizing powers of the NSA really are.  Because if they'd want to make an example of anyone, it'd be this guy.  The dude said enough about himself in this interview (much like DPR) that the already narrow pool of candidates for being him is already substantially narrowed.  If so, it will be yet another case where anonymity technology is overcome by narcissism.
667  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 18, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
The sillygism seems to go like this:

Some geniuses are arrogant asshats.
I'm an arrogant asshat.

Therefore, I'm a genius!
668  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-18 FORBES: Meet The 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Mu on: November 18, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
I am intrigued how they determine the killer. I would imagine one of the marks gets killed and thousands of people will be online within minutes trying to claim the bounty.

Also good luck trying to clean those coins. They will investigate a million tainted people for life for such a kill*.



If you read the article, you'd know.  The future date is encrypted into a transaction to the site and can only be decrypted (to prove that the date was predicted in advance) when the original sender wants it to be and sends the decryption key.  This is basically a scheme based on Jim Bell's old scheme posted to the cypherpunks list (also referenced in the article).  That is, the better provides proof of future knowledge of something supposedly only the perpetrator would know.

Needless to say, the reckless and stupid nature of this kind of thing is pretty obvious.  Why do the people think that a functional market like this, if it could be created, would somehow be magically limited to use against politicians by noble assassins?  Why wouldn't it be used by politicians against normal people, by rich people against neighbors they don't like, etc.?  There may be a certain inevitability in the technology toward uses like this, but it certainly isn't something to approve or actually do if you have any sense whatsoever.

(But people don't necessarily.  Also, great timing, Forbes.  Thanks for that.)
669  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 18, 2013, 01:08:07 AM
It isn't a fucking currency because if I give it to my workers, they said thanks but then ask when I will pay their salary.

You appear to be confused by the separate but related concepts of "currency" and "legal tender."

I am not confused about what I can use to pay people. Are you?

You can pay people with anything they choose to accept.

You just can't insist with the force of law that they accept it in satisfaction of a debt ("legal tender").

Bitcoin is not legal tender but that does not mean it is not currency, though "money" is probably a better term, because "currency" often implies "legal tender" even though it does not necessarily denote that.
670  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 17, 2013, 04:45:14 PM
The word "pre-order" ought to be outlawed.  Order before you order?  Doesn't even make sense. 

Perhaps the button should be labeled with some word like "Gamble That This Item Ever Exists Like a Moron."
671  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "New address for each payment" is a logic bomb on: November 17, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
I think the math works out that there's more Bitcoin addresses than there are atoms in the universe.  Basically, it's been talked about many times, and it's nothing to worry about.

True, BUT there is still the possibility of a collision!

That is true for almost all systems.
Air traffic control, PC hardware numbers etc.. As long as the probability is astronomically low it's not a problem.

Actually, when the utility of the system is high, we tolerate fairly high possibilities of collisions.  Air traffic control, for instance.  Mid air collisions can and have occurred in the civilian and military contexts.  It is a problem, but not enough of one to abandon the system.

It would probably make sense, if given a choice between two otherwise equally useful systems, to choose one with no chance whatsoever of a collision.  Not sure we have such a choice, though.
672  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: November 17, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
It isn't a fucking currency because if I give it to my workers, they said thanks but then ask when I will pay their salary.

You appear to be confused by the separate but related concepts of "currency" and "legal tender."
673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Partnership between Facebook and police could make planning protests impossible on: November 17, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
Anecdotal examples. Russians have stricter gun control and a lot less guns than Sweden, but their murder rates are more than double compared to the US and 10 times compared to Sweden's. I'm not saying that gun control is good or bad, but a more thoughtful discussion must be had on the issue, than just pointing on the map and saying: "Hey look, this country has tough gun control and low crime rates, hence gun control = low crime rates".

There's what's on the books and what actually happens.  If you read Russia's Constitution during the Soviet era, it contained most of the same freedom of speech and other civil liberties guarantees as the U.S. Constitution.  But it was just on paper.  None of those rights actually existed in practice.  By contrast, as flawed as the U.S. system is, you can go into a court and argue that a law violates the First Amendment, or Second Amendment for that matter, and if you can convince a court of that, the law gets struck down.

Also, re the OP, the story seems more than a bit overblown.

No, the Cops Aren’t Banning Protesters From Facebook

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It should come as no surprise that police departments monitor social media. After all, as a speaker revealed during a panel at last week’s International Association of Chiefs of Police conference, roughly 96 percent of law enforcement agencies utilize social media, and more than 86 percent for “investigative purposes.”

At least, that’s according to Kenneth Lipp, the Philadelphia-based investigative journalist at the center of what Chicago Police Department Lt. Steven Sesso calls a “headache.”

Since the IACP conference’s closing, Lipp has been posting photos and videos from the event’s panels and showroom floor, along with blog posts highlighting the available police swag and attending heavy-hitters. It was essentially a who’s who of modern law enforcement, the massive conference having filled every bit of the PA Convention Center’s 679,000 square feet for a solid five days.

The headache to which Lt. Sesso refers, though, comes not from any helicopters or armored personnel carriers that were for sale, but a statement from an unnamed, unscheduled speaker from the Chicago Police Department indicating an apparent relationship between the agency and social media giant Facebook. According to Lipp’s original blog post, the nature of that relationship—allegedly built through Facebook’s chief security officer, Joe Sullivan—was to “block users’ from the site by account [person], IP, and device … if it is determined they have posted what is deemed criminal content.” Additionally, Sullivan was listed as a speaker for that same panel.

tl;dr the police can read Facebook.  Just like anyone else can.  And they can click the "report" button.

Just like anyone else can.
674  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "New address for each payment" is a logic bomb on: November 16, 2013, 08:37:43 PM
First off, the birthday "paradox" isn't even a paradox.  It's just a common way human minds fail to understand an address space.  In this case, birthdays are less than 9 bits of data.  So collisions will be very common.

Does anyone even use this shit except as a bar bet to con a sucker?  As in "I bet two people in here have the same birthday!"

The address space of Bitcoin makes the collision possibility a pure speculation.  The sucker would be the one betting on a meaningful collision here.
675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 16, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
Space is an illusion, outer space did not create you, you created it.  You are the center of the universe, you are the universe, you are consciousness, consciousness is god.

Did you actually get a degree in bullshit?  Because seriously. . .wtf?  How stoned do you have to be to generate a wall of gibberish like that?
676  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pizza is sacred to us. POST PICTURES OF IT HERE! on: November 16, 2013, 01:06:03 PM
This thread makes me hungry Tongue
Am I the only one that finds this taunting, as I snack on a flimsy FiberOne Bar Tongue

Most of these posts, I find more disgusting than a gore thread on 4chan.

The only ones that make me hungry are the one or two pizza margherita pics.

The rest make me want to swear off eating, forever.  How can you sick bastards eat this shit?
677  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Partnership between Facebook and police could make planning protests impossible on: November 16, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
Police are effectively no deterrent to murder, rape, and all other crimes. However, because they enforce the human rights violations called "gun control", they are a deterrent to peaceful people being able to defend themselves, which actually deters crime. Unfortunately totalitarians will never go quietly into the night, so people will continue to kill, rape, and otherwise victimize the legally disarmed and defenseless, with effective impunity.

This is, of course, why the United States, the only civilized nation with no gun control, is a perfect paradise of peace and harmony and nobody is in prison here.  The Scandinavian countries, full of gun control, are the most violent hellholes in the world.  You can barely get off a plane in Stockholm without being dragged to the street and ripped to pieces by ravening hordes of violent criminals.

I'm proud to be Amurrican where muh freedumb.
678  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: November 16, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Hi! Is anybody interested in buying a 50k krill account? You get to play all the freerolls, including the 10 btc freeroll which runs every 22 days and had 60 entries the last time. Also, 19% rakeback.
We could set up an escrow on 2p2 or maybe here if there are reputable posters who offer it.

They changed the freeroll structure after I made this post, which makes my account mainly worth anything for the 19% rakeback. Total additional rakeback up to 50k krills is worth about 1,685 btc. I'll show you how I calculated it, if you pm me.

So try to sell it for that, jackhole.

I assume your assumptions are that the current conditions will continue forever.  Well, they won't, because they're destroying the site.
679  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TradeFortress is a scammer. on: November 16, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
I think there should be a poll on whether his place is filled in the Default Trust list by a Ponzi scammer or some other kind of scammer.  Ponzi scammers are overrepresented in that list and I think it's, well, kind of racist.
680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Quantum Physics Proves That There IS An Afterlife, Claims Scientist on: November 16, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
I just realized that quantum physics proves I have the biggest dick in the world and every other proposition I want to be true.

Where's my press conference?

Oh, wait, this is another Daily Fail article?  What a shocker.  I'm so disappointed.
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