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Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini-Rig from Butterflylabs
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on: March 20, 2012, 06:57:11 PM
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Again most outlet circuits in the US are on 20A breakers with 12 AWG romex (yellow). Its easy enuf to check and see if its a 14 AWG romex (white), 15A breaker circuit, but usually those are lighting circuits, not outlets. If its not 20A breaker with 12 AWG, then don't put a 5-20 outlet on it.. This is just silly. I see very few 20A installs in existing structures and even new structures, it's somewhat rare to see anything better than 14ga 15a. Builders are some of the cheapest mother fuckers on earth and are scum right next to car salesmen and bankers. They aren't going to spring for 12ga wire unless absolutely necessary. 15a, 14a is the "norm." Even if you specify 12ga, 20a, unless you watch most builders like a hawk or do it yourself, you're likely to end up with 14ga wiring. I used to build custom houses (when there was a boom), lately its been additions and remodels. I use yellow 12ga for everything. I see more 20A outlet circuits then 15A, but hey i'm in California, most of our houses were built fairly recently, back east it might be a different story. Knob and tube is probably still the standard back there eh? |
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini-Rig from Butterflylabs
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on: March 20, 2012, 05:59:20 PM
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It is possible that someone has a 15A outlet on 12 gauge wiring but that isn't the norm. 12 gauge is more expensive and builders often don't sink lots of cost into heavier wiring as it is kinda hard to sell that once the walls are up.
This just isn't true, on a 20A circuit your allowed 13 duplex 15A outlets, whereas on a 15A circuit your only allowed 10 duplex 15A outlets. The cost of the extra home runs with 14AWG romex on outlet circuits and the extra labor involved makes it more expensive then running 12AWG romex. |
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini-Rig from Butterflylabs
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on: March 20, 2012, 05:51:28 PM
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Again most outlet circuits in the US are on 20A breakers with 12 AWG romex (yellow). Its easy enuf to check and see if its a 14 AWG romex (white), 15A breaker circuit, but usually those are lighting circuits, not outlets. If its not 20A breaker with 12 AWG, then don't put a 5-20 outlet on it..
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin up.
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on: March 20, 2012, 03:51:06 PM
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I only have a play money account in the real market but I really dont think we are going back below DOW13000 and S&P1400 for another few months. I am watching AAPL as a potential lead indicator as well... Sure the RSI is at 100 again(it basically has been since Jan) but with the dividend and share buyback announced along with this http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-19/apple-sells-record-3-million-new-ipads-in-tablet-s-debut-weekend ... I think the pilling in of retail investors is just starting. AAPL will continue bubbling to at least 700. I think you may be right, the piling in of retail investors on AAPL. I just found out someone I know bought AAPL yesterday, cause their Finacial Advisor said it had forward looking PE of 12.. *roll eyes*. I think its about topped out, but heck I could be wrong, it might run for a few more hundred.. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin up.
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on: March 20, 2012, 12:38:29 AM
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Nope showed it to a guy calling for something to be happening that obviously isn't.. I don't care how many degree's you have on your wall and how many websites you have, I"m not jumping off the bridge with you  |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin up.
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on: March 20, 2012, 12:19:06 AM
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I like this thread, has it all: nuclear physics, market analysis, geopolitics,... so how to build a rocket?
Lol, my dog hasn't got their yet, He needs his graduate edumacation, then on to Warheads and Delivery systems he will go. My dog rocks!!! |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin vs silver
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on: March 19, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
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which one could double first ?
Either could of course. The phrasing seems somewhat none-sense to me. I'll say the odds are on Bitcoin doubling (measured in USD) first mostly because it's much more volatile and a doubling is much more within it's recent range. Of course Bitcoin could very easily be cut in half just as fast, and while possible, I don't see it happening for silver (but we can hope since I would be delighted at another buying opportunity.) A more interesting question is: 'Which one has the potential to increase in constant dollar value by orders of magnitude?' The answer here would be Bitcoin, and that's a fair part of the reason why I'm sticking around. Ditto. |
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