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301  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: I have 23 Bitcoins I want to sell. on: January 09, 2014, 05:03:40 AM
Even though I dont feel good giving my bitcoin address filled with Bitcoins

but here is one of my many accounts filled with bitcoins.

1LucQ5itG6GpWb95s5rNrbakaU5drbzKhK

the truth is , i even have a bit more than 23 bitcoins, but Im keeping some to buy more rig

And NO !!!! I dont send anything first. Already been scammed this way..  You can buy 1 bitcoin and try me out. I ain't no ripper.

I ask the market price for 1 bitcoin, what ever is bitstamp selling at ... 819$ i believe it is today

Let me know

Please post a message  signed with the private key of this address.

Thank you.
302  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: I have 23 Bitcoins I want to sell. on: January 09, 2014, 02:45:37 AM
You send first I'll by them all.

Can you please post an address with 23 bitcoins.
303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the foundation doing for FBI to help bitcoin markets? on: January 09, 2014, 01:44:07 AM
If the USG saves those BTC for a few years maybe they could use it to pay down the debt.

That would require long term planning that is difficult for government officials to do. The General Schedule pay grades are more like time clock punchers that worry more about their benefits than doing their jobs. Elected officials can only see forward to the election. If they had a real grasp of future economics the 2008 recession would have had a very different outcome. Never make a plan today for what you can bail out tomorrow.

You put that nicely there, like a little New Years poem to the government.

Another thought just came to me: They can't sell off anything illegal, so they can only sell of BTCs as long as they are legal.

Which would mean BTCs stay legal in the US at least till some time after the end of the trial.

The US Government has made it pretty clear that the use of virtual currencies, and specifically bitcoin, is NOT illegal.  And if their plan was to "make it illegal" while in the world would they do that in the first place.  

The US Government is still trying to figure this out and what to do about it.  You can actually read the latest here.

Bitcoin: Questions, Answers, and Analysis of Legal Issues
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43339.pdf

If I was going to worry it would be about the tax implication of bitcoin.  The United States Government Accountability Office issues a report to the US Senate Committee on Finance entitled:
"VIRTUAL ECONOMIES AND CURRENCIES Additional IRS Guidance Could Reduce Tax Compliance Risks"
http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/654620.pdf

Here is a podcast with the James R. White, the GAO's Director of Tax Issues
http://www.gao.gov/multimedia/podcasts/654442


304  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Unable to connect using jsonRPCClient; .005btc bounty for a fix on: January 08, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
have you opened those inbound ports on your ec2 security group?
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WTS 150.000 Coinye for 3 LTC + I'll pay the Escrow on: January 08, 2014, 10:02:29 PM
That's why it has been renamed from Coinye West to Coinye and the picture of it has changed as well.

Not on this site:
http://coinyeco.in/

is that the official site.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WTS 150.000 Coinye for 3 LTC + I'll pay the Escrow on: January 08, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
dump before the price hits zero!

http://ecreditdaily.com/2014/01/coinye-west-creators-sued-kanye-west-bitcoin-frenzy-unravels/
307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the foundation doing for FBI to help bitcoin markets? on: January 08, 2014, 09:04:43 PM
If the USG saves those BTC for a few years maybe they could use it to pay down the debt.
308  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Report: Projects on: January 08, 2014, 08:54:30 PM
... but not being in the UK is a killer for spearheading this effort.

Suppose I'll pick it up then as I am UK.

I wasn't scammed by Projects but I do hate scammers with a passion. Hell you only have to look at the dox' I've done in the past to know that.

+1 for Kelticfox  (dude what is up with that neg trust.  is that all from Sublime??)

Aye, Sublime from this thread.
He did message me a while back asking was I ready to remove the negative feedback I left after he tried to coerce me into removing the post where I stated he was banned from OTC...

I have to say the flame neg rating cause you guys don't like each other kinda deletes the purpose of the trust system.  I've traded successfully with sublime dozens of times with no  problem.  He's fully transparent  and public about who he is.  Of course he can be a dick but can't we all.  

Your neg rating makes you look untrustworthy, which I know you are not.

You two should kiss and make up.
309  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Report: Projects on: January 08, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
Is thus guy from Edinburgh? I'm from there.

No idea.  escrow.ms is collecting personal information
310  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Report: Projects on: January 08, 2014, 04:48:45 PM
... but not being in the UK is a killer for spearheading this effort.

Suppose I'll pick it up then as I am UK.

I wasn't scammed by Projects but I do hate scammers with a passion. Hell you only have to look at the dox' I've done in the past to know that.

+1 for Kelticfox  (dude what is up with that neg trust.  is that all from Sublime??)
311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Top 4 Satoshi Nakamoto quotes of all time on: January 07, 2014, 08:59:37 PM
Thanks for this.  I love this one:

Sorry to be a wet blanket. Writing a description for (bitcoin) for general audiences is bloody hard. There’s nothing to relate it to.

So true....
312  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not a currency and should not be considered as one. on: January 07, 2014, 07:40:00 PM
I'm an european, my country signed the Rome Treaty. I'm free to move, me as a person and my capital, wherever it is the best for me, if my country isn't giving me a great environment compared to another. 

I'm not familiar with Rome Treaty.
313  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Report: Projects on: January 07, 2014, 07:08:07 PM
Is someone also collecting personal information on Projects.  I'm sure between us we have all the banks accounts and emails and locations he's been using.
314  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not a currency and should not be considered as one. on: January 07, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
This topic makes no sense to me. How you define currency?

currency definition (Webster):
a :  circulation as a medium of exchange
b :  general use, acceptance, or prevalence <a story gaining currency>
c :  something (as coins, treasury notes, and banknotes) that is in circulation as a medium of exchange
d :  paper money in circulation
e :  a common article for bartering
f :  a medium of verbal or intellectual expression

Anything with value essentially is a currency. So you're saying bitcoin should have no value?


pbody

The word "currency" implies  it is currently in use as a medium of exchange.  And a medium of exchange is what ever two people agree has value to them.  Whether it is eggs, oil or bitcoin.

A lot of people value bitcoin.  A lot of people use them to trade and/or buy things.  There for bitcoin is a currency.

Now whether or not it is a good or bad currency, only time will tell, regardless of what all the talking heads say.

Right before the big asteroid  his the earth.  All the dinosaurs where sitting around saying "This is fucking great!  We rule the world"  They never knew what hit them.
315  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not a currency and should not be considered as one. on: January 07, 2014, 06:59:51 PM
I will never declare to any gov that I own bitcoin that's for sure!

And when I cashout, if I'm asked, I will just say that I sold, cryptographic private keys, that were valuable to some random people, for research or any kind of stuff, to unlock stuff with it.

If they still want to tax it, I would direct myself to banks in Swiss or something like that.


Exactly I see bitcoin like SWIFT in a certain way, but not exactly.



Ilanoh,  I understand the sentiment but that is a very naive attitude.  

1.  You've just stated that you intend to commit a crime (in any jurisdiction with taxation laws) on a public forum.

2.  Your explanation does not hold water.  If you are located in the US the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network has already issued guidance that virtual currencies are legally considered "other value that substitutes for currency" which makes it use and transmission subject to a host of financial service laws and regulations including civil and criminal prosecution.

3.  Even if you are not in the US, DreadPirateRoberts and his administrates and users and sellers thought their bitcoins were safe from from the long arm of the law and that proved to be an incorrect assumption.

4. While I'm not aware of many taxation rulings outside the US when these rulings are put in place again you would become subject to civil and criminal fines and penalties buy trying to evade them.

I'm not saying that is right or wrong.  I'm just stating the facts.  

(ok begin the personal attacks!)

316  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://www.bitstamp.net/ page not found? on: January 07, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
Site is back.
317  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not a currency and should not be considered as one. on: January 07, 2014, 06:36:40 PM
Here are a couple of taxation scenarios.

If you are a miner the GOV could tax your block reward and fee on receipt as income.

Then at the time you convert those coins to fiat you could also be taxed with a capital gains if the price increased.

In Countries where there is a Value Added Tax (VAT) they could put a premium on bitcoin transactions and make its use more expensive then credit cards and other forms of payment.

For the regular user/trader  I would expect that bitcoin earnings or loss would be taxed as a capital gain or loss at the very least.

Lot of theories and speculation out there.

I'd expect a US IRS ruling before April 15, 2014.



318  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://www.bitstamp.net/ page not found? on: January 07, 2014, 04:40:53 PM
no tweets since nov 30th
319  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: https://www.bitstamp.net/ page not found? on: January 07, 2014, 04:38:15 PM
and it's gone.
Page not found

The requested url was not found on our servers.


(US)
320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs. Paypal - and PayPal is getting sued. on: January 07, 2014, 03:59:06 PM
You can record what ever you want.  You just won't be able to use it in a court of law in some jurisdictions, thus the suggestion to record all calls and create transcripts of the calls in those states where two party consent is required.
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