More about Steven Morell: Far far away, behind the word mountains, far from the countries Vokalia and Consonantia, there live the blind texts. Separated they live in Bookmarksgrove right at the coast of the Semantics, a large language ocean. A small river named Duden flows by their place and supplies it with the necessary regelialia. It is a paradisematic country, in which roasted parts of sentences fly into your mouth. he also claims to "own" that site.  ...from the BTCGlobal.net home page... https://btcglobal.net/not very encouraging... |
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Just received this in a PM:
I'm still trying to figure out why this drama is even still unfolding, and why I'm getting BCCed on it. O.o
Alright, lemme weigh in my two cents.
1: I don't recall what you guys are talking about with all of this "scam" talk. I do not have a Bitcoin wallet that has seen any use whatsoever, and with access to a computer which sees up to 5 users a day, any one could be responsible for any number of unfortunate and most likely misunderstood dealings during the past month.
2: The moment you private message someone demanding payment (in any form) to prevent personal information from "leaking", it's classic blackmail. Extortion by US Code. Any "opinions" or "views" or "two cents" about it means nothing. It's there in plain text.
3: That having been said, I'm not interested in Ironcross, his naughty PM, or any of the "dox" on the internet. If I am indeed who you claim I am, then you could have gotten much better pictures than what you found. At least ones where I'm wearing some Armani or something. =/
4: BigBitz did go with the whole "scam a scammer" mentality, but you know what? That's okay. He's taking care of the community, and that really showed me a lot. I swore up and down that he was going to keep the coins, but he didn't (it seems). He's just a shark businessman who buys at $10 below spot, but seems to really care about giving back to those in need. I have all of the respect in the world for him, and for BCB (even if we don't agree on a few things).
At any rate. Following this tale of woe and luls has become a 20 minute a day hobby at this point. As I said, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. The whole bytecoin, betcoin, batchcoin, hocus-pocus confuses me. I'm not tech savvy enough to get involved with bitchcoins or eye are see or whatever you crazy hipsters are doing.
I WILL however be -obscenely- glad to wait and watch to see where this goes. If I'm lucky, and it gets out of hand, I can start hurling defamation lawsuits at people and make some REAL money. We have a lawyer specifically for business transactions. He's always looking for a payday.
Your friend and neighbor - "Kruniac"
XOXOXOXXOXO
<3 <3 <3 <3
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BigBlitz, Both the send and receive address match and verify. He has a stronger claim them the other. I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout. If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address. The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with. I'll leave that up to you and John. TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.
I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.
I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you. Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone .... I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 Signature IH6217rE+2RJ1fVUxy1/vE7LfLjGbOqzwF3LzZRENKiR2r/2Cbx9NSXIIUq6YfVqmRRVPgXCt4vxpEw8Red55So= |
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We can still make him miserable through the power of internet.
Frankly after talking to him I don't really think he cares what you post or do or say about him on the internet. (look at him many dating site profiles). Evidently he has been through a similar incident before and has admitted to being a long time e-bay scammer. |
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First of all your local police station are NOT going to file a report for at 200.00 internet fraud.
You have to file a small claim with your state government.
And Kruniac knows from experience that no one is going to bother to do that, which is why he is being so cavalier and nonchalant about the whole thing.
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Sorry Guys. I find this whole article and the claims made within it to be HIGHLY suspect. Too good to be true. Who is Steven Morrell?? " overwhelming visionary confidence in his company, prudent knowledge of international banking laws, creative innovation, and ardent European accent convinced me hook line and sinker that BTC Global will be the Google of the Bitcoin economy, which is exactly what they’re going for" ( a fucking journalist wrote that - I think not!) What is is background. "Steven Morrell knows a lot about revolution, he was right there at the Berlin wall when it collapsed. 'A friend of mine is the director at a huge German theater'" (OK Steven tell me where to send my money!!) Where are his licenses? Where are the contracts or at least public verification of his "partnerships"? You guys who all drink the Koolaid make me embarrassed to be a part of bitcoin. Anyone remember Pirateat40?? Guys would have sucked his dick to deposit 10,000 BTC with him before default. Let's get a little corroboration of some of the facts before everyone starts quoting at "truth" something that was distributed in a press release. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/6/prweb10807624 |
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Got scammed as well.  I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that.  I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 That message does NOT verify. Please sign a message from the address you send funds from Actually it does verify to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz which is the address of kruniac which I paid 2.2 to. Please, can you check again? Message: I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE= OK - Now sign a message with your sending address. Thx. |
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Got scammed as well. I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
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I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment.
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Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 That message does NOT verify. Please sign a message from the address you send funds from |
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Bitfloor update email for 10-June-2013Good news at last! I spoke today with Jordan Modell from Internet Credit Union. He was able to confirm that Roman has been in touch with ICU for a few weeks and has been working with them to set up a way to return USD funds to customers. Here are the key points: - After conferring with their counsel, ICU confirmed that they can legally open an account for Bitfloor. They have done so. Bitfloor's account with ICU is now open.
- ICU and Bitfloor are setting up ACH transfer capabilities for the account. Jordan should be able to confirm by Friday this week whether ACH into and ACH out of the account is set up and working.
- The main delay at this point is that ICU has to wait to hear back from their counsel whether they need to follow "Know Your Customer" guidelines for each of Bitfloor's depositors. Jordan said it might take as long as until the end of next week (6/21) to hear back from their counsel on this issue.
To elaborate on point #3: Even though Roman knows who most of us are (because anyone who requested ACH verification from Bitfloor already submitted photo ID), ICU is trying to find out if they need to separately request and review identity verification information for all of us, too. Ideally, ICU would like to avoid collecting this information about Bitfloor's customers, if that's legal. However, if their counsel advises them to collect this information, it shouldn't amount to much more than some additional paperwork or a brief phone call for each of us — not too much of a hassle, in my opinion, given how long we have waited already for refunds. Overall, Jordan sounds very motivated to help with this situation. He asked me to follow up with him later this week so he could give me an update. Wait, so ICU is releasing confidential client information to you? |
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...
The FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice all have extensive knowledge of bitcoin. The recent FinCEN guidance, and DOJ/DHS action against MT GOX and it US subsidiary Mutum Sigillum make this clear and possibly indicate additional regulation and legislation coming. |
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The recent Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) guidance basically requires anyone dealing in buying or selling bitcoin to comply with the US Treasurey's Bank Secrecy Act's guidlines for Anti-Money Laundering (AML), Know Your Customer (KYC) and to implement a Customer Information Program (CIP) which requires them to collect:
(1) the name;
(2) date of birth (for an individual);
(3) an address, which will be a residential or business street address (for an individual), an Army Post Office (APO) or Fleet Post Office (FPO) box number, or residential or business street address of next of kin or another contact individual (for an individual who does not have a residential or business street address), or a principal place of business, local office, or other physical location (for a person other than an individual); and
(4) an identification number, which will be a taxpayer identification number (for U.S. persons), or one or more of the following: a taxpayer identification number, passport number and country of issuance, alien identification card number, or number and country of issuance of any other government-issued document evidencing nationality or residence and bearing a photograph or other similar safeguard (for non-U.S. persons).
Welcome to the new world of bitcoin in the US.
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so it is not already in the list?? |
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Your title is "untrustworthy" You listed yourself as: Coordination Consultant: Matthew Wright
The association with you diminishes their credibility in my opinion. Just pointing that out. |
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Am I the only one who didn't send the money to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz ?
what address did you send to? |
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Updated. Please claim the remaining addresses. If you can not sign an addy please post evidence you sent and a return address. Thx. Recover Schedule | address | owner | amount | total scammed | % | Recovered | Refund | | 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui | | 1.8 | 41.78663866 | 4% | 16.4 | 0.706445911 | | 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK | ryanAC | 2.1 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.824186896 | | td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D | hwmax | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | | | 2.29663866 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.901361661 | | | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 | | 2.45 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.961551378 | | 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK | dhenson | 2.4 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.941927881 | | 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd | wo0x | 2.35 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.922304383 | | | Design Dream | 17.39 | 41.78663866 | 42% | 16.4 | 6.825052437 | | | | | 41.78663866 | 100% | | | |
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above. These will be paid first. |
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Recover Schedule | address | owner | amount | total scammed | % | Recovered | Refund | | 19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui | | 1.8 | 41.78663866 | 4% | 16.4 | 0.706445911 | | 14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK | ryanAC | 2.1 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.824186896 | | td]126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D | hwmax | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | | | 2.29663866 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.901361661 | | | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5 | | 2.45 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.961551378 | | 1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD | | 2.2 | 41.78663866 | 5% | 16.4 | 0.863433891 | | 1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK | dhenson | 2.4 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.941927881 | | 1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd | wo0x | 2.35 | 41.78663866 | 6% | 16.4 | 0.922304383 | | | Design Dream | 17.39 | 41.78663866 | 42% | 16.4 | 6.825052437 | | | | | 41.78663866 | 100% | | | |
If you have not already please PUBLICLY post a signature proving ownership of the addresses above. These will be paid first. |
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First off all this is probably a civil case not a criminal case. Call a Police Station in MD.
Then I guess you could try to file a small claim in the state of CA or MD.
Finally, I have yet to hear of single case of where a bitcoin scammer was charge let alone convicted of scamming either civilly or criminally (although that may be changing).
See.
My Bitcoin
Bitfloor
bitcoin.eu
Bitcoinica.com
Bitcoin Savings and Trust
GLBSE
etc.
etc.
etc.
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