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781  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 50 Block Erupter Blades CHECK OP FOR PAYMENT on: May 06, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
can someone with a woorking miner (or knows how they work) PLEASE message me on irc [freenode] (or on here...), tips might be involved...
782  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [2] countdown! on: May 06, 2013, 09:00:13 AM
我在等2个星期 如果还收不到我的机器 我会联合一些用户采取过激行为 鱼死网破吧 我所有的财产都投入到了2批和3批 我不想一次次被欺骗了 尽管我一直是NGZ的支持者
我想知道你准备怎么做?
我还是会继续等的 除非到了机器到了已经到了回本都很困难的情况下 ,我从第一批就开始订购avalon 第2 3批 投入了所有的资产,我的期望很高,以为第一批机器已经到的情况下,第2批会更顺利些,但是如果蝴蝶大量发货 ,avalon继续推迟到7月甚至8月,我所有的投入就已经很危险,有的时候 爱恨就在一瞬间,我会举报他们非法集资 找官方介入调查。到现在为止,我还是梦想着五月中旬就会收到我的机器,哪怕是5月末。

到时候,你不会是一个人,如果南瓜总是无视我们的利益和要求,我们一起去抗争,鱼死网破,不死不休。请南瓜不要再伤害付款人的感情。

Uh huh?






I was referring to the last bit of the quote, which according to google translate is:

"In time, you will not be a person, if the pumpkin always ignore our interests and demands, we went to fight, break the death, die endlessly. Please pumpkin do not hurt the feelings of the payer."

While this may be some kind of taoist prayer, and is in some ways quite beautiful, I feel that I do not completely understand its import. Perhaps that's to be expected, but if not I was implying that I would like some clarification of this passage. I did not mean to imply that I wanted such clarification from Chuck Norris.



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783  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner [Post if interested] on: May 06, 2013, 08:58:10 AM
I would buy some if the price was less than 2 BTC

Actually, to be fair, the price IS 1.99 BTC, Tongue
784  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: ASICMiner Block Erupter USB group buy (US/Canada) on: May 06, 2013, 08:19:44 AM
Also can we hold off payments until the sale thread goes up?
785  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner [Post if interested] on: May 06, 2013, 08:17:56 AM
Heck, wouldn't you love to receive a gift that will "make money" for you ?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qV9s9Dkeoy
Huh

What does voice recording has to do with "make money" ?

(I have flash blocked).


It's a robot speaking a hypothetical advertisement, basically saying just that.
786  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling ASICMINER Blade on: May 06, 2013, 08:16:48 AM
So, you realized you overpaid it at first place? Better ever than never but it might be late  Grin

80btc way too high for me, but something to think about, new ASICMiner announcement, 2BTC / 300MHash is all they're offering. Would take 34 USB sticks (ugh) to get 10GH/sec, and cost you ~68BTC, and won't be ready til you organize a group buy of 300(!), shipped then re-shipped + 20-30 days I believe.

So while I wouldn't pay 80BTC for this, remember that it isn't that crazy for a quick hashing power boost.

That's irrelevant, price blades were going on that auction was joke, price AM is selling USB's is an utter joke.

It is not irrelevant. I don't want to get into the semantics of what qualifies as relevant in someone elses auction thread, but your personal opinion of price-validity would more closely follow.

I continue to watch asicminer sales with interest, though I've not myself found a price I am comfortable with. A shame really. I too wish the OP luck in finding a mutually beneficial deal.

Thanks! can't wait to mine with it anyway Tongue
787  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 50 Block Erupter Blades CHECK OP FOR PAYMENT on: May 06, 2013, 07:20:19 AM
Bastards. Shipment on hold and waiting for payment. I called and need to wait for the accounting department to wake up and tell me how much import tax I will need to pay. I need to go pay in person and get the parcel myself if I still would like it today. Credit card could take at least another day.

So if you see that status better call them up. Could be different in your country.

country?
788  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB on: May 06, 2013, 03:05:50 AM
Avalon Asic Chips are about $7 to $8 a piece with 282mh/s and you make a USB/pcb and they you go, a usb mining chip.. need to find out
the costs to make this pcb to add in a chip, maybe in due time..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196281.0
789  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner [Post if interested] on: May 06, 2013, 02:02:38 AM
Let's change it up. I'd be interested in this but non-assembled. In other words, customer solders everything accordingly. Lowers costs for distributor so they can pass some of those savings onto the customer.

bkk said he could do approx $20 for a kit and $30 assembled. although we still have to wait a bit for specifics. Just thought it would be a much better idea than asicminer's plan.
790  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB on: May 06, 2013, 12:32:59 AM
anyone who buy it has lost his mind if he is not loaded with money and just want to have one in collection

 ... or choosing to reinvest mined Bitcoins in hardware to generate more Bitcoins while supporting the network.

reinvest what with 300mh Mr Altruism?

Yeah, I'm dying to support a network and earn money to company which "owns" 50% of network, can't wait to do it..





I agree that the fact that they have 200 th coming in the near future is extremely disconcerting and that asicminer should basically just become an asic miner seller. As it stands, it seems like they basically have a network monopoly right now and are only choosing to keep hardware offline because having it online would cause a huge dip in BTC price. The fact still remains that they have too big a portion.
791  Economy / Auctions / Re: ASICMINER Auction: 50 Block Erupter Blades CHECK OP FOR PAYMENT on: May 05, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
Dude my friend want to buy. How do I get notification when the next eruptor blade is?


you should probably just follow friedcat. Apparently blades won't be sold for a bit, the next auction is for the usb miners so your best bet would probably be to buy one used.
792  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling ASICMINER Blade on: May 05, 2013, 11:23:59 PM
So, you realized you overpaid it at first place? Better ever than never but it might be late  Grin

not really, Just posting my ask for anyone interested, can't wait to mine honestly...

I wouldn't too but not close to price you paid for it and specially not for price you're trying to sell.

First batch went cheaper than you are selling and it was waaay overpriced. Highest from 2nd batch was lot cheaper than this (if I remember good it was 55). I know it's kinda bashing your sale offer what I'm talking and that's usually lame but I had to, anything AM related is mentally priced, I'm allergic on them.

No worries, I was hoping to do this OBO style anyway with a High ask, offers appreciated!
793  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling ASICMINER Blade on: May 05, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
So, you realized you overpaid it at first place? Better ever than never but it might be late  Grin

not really, Just posting my ask for anyone interested, can't wait to mine honestly...
794  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: ASICMiner Block Erupter USB group buy (US/Canada) on: May 05, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
I don't understand why so many people are posting issues about the price in this thread. This thread is for people interested in the group buy.  If you are not interested, that's fine, nobody is forcing you to purchase the product.

If you have an issue with the price or product itself, take it up with the manufacturer.  Here is a thread about the product: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195004.0



+1
795  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner [Post if interested] on: May 05, 2013, 10:42:39 PM
idk, Really hoping 1 of the board makers could come here to see if they have an estimate and how doable it is, I'd love to work with em'
796  Other / Meta / Re: Petition: BFL should no longer be allowed to advertise here on: May 05, 2013, 10:40:11 PM
uno mas
797  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: ASICMiner Block Erupter USB group buy (US/Canada) on: May 05, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
first - the price is at least 25% too high. these will be mass-made in only a few months time, probably by the time these are received and reshipped...

second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?

um... escrow? and these are supposedly shipping in about 2 weeks...
798  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Magic: the Gathering Tournament at Bitcoin Conference 2013 in San Jose on: May 05, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
What about doing a draft tournement from a particular set?   Those are fun and everybody is equal because the packs get passed around

Since LetsTalkBitcoin! is covering the event, I doubt I'd have time to play - but I do enjoy a good draft.

Good idea.  See above:

I was thinking just booster draft the Return to Ravnica block, which recently had its 3rd set, Dragon's Maze, released:  http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Products.aspx

The last time I played magic was PAX 2007, has the trend of "shit gets more powerful so you better buy the new edition" continued? 

not really, It's sort of marginal. The incentive to buy new product is the fact that the most popular format besides draft is standard, which only uses sets from the past 1-2 years.
799  Bitcoin / Hardware / Klondike 1 Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner on: May 05, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Everything here is credited to BkkCoins (I'm merely trying to get a bulk order with him to ship ready made units out of the USA). Keep in mind if you are looking for efficiency, I highly suggest you check out his other threads about bigger boards that hold multiple chips efficiently at a much better cost. This is supposed to be a cute little hobbyist miner to get people into mining as a gift or as a small little accessory. Buying many of these to mine by yourself is probably not as good as just going with the Klondike-16.

Probably Isn't happening soon [july?] We'll try to get this done as it comes along though!

Since a lot of people have asked, price estimates (Absolutey no guarantees!):
1 - $90 each*
10 - $75 each*
50 - $ 70 each*
100 - $60 each*
*Add BTC 0.1 to price for the chip


A group buy via Canaryinthemine seems to be the best way.

Still rough estimates. still don't know what they'll cost to manufacture. I got in on a relatively early avalon order and hope they are done fast. If they cost less to make or there is little demand by the time they come in, the price will go lower. Same is true for the opposite.

If you think it is expensive, I know, and am trying to find a group seller to reship them and make it approximately the group buy rate for everyone since I'm not set up for mass shipping at the time.

-------------------------------

I wanted to use this thread to gather interest on a mini asic usb miner with avalon chips, equivalent to the asicminer version that cost 2 btc. 3d model:



If/when this is done, I'll pay for several hundred/thousand units for retail with the chip included. Everything else would probably be done by BKKCoins

updates~

I think this is a pretty sweet idea. How feasible is it though? Is this more at the 'hey this a good idea stage' or the 'hey I think I can actually make this it wouldn't be that tough' stage? Smiley
I've done the schematic and I'm partially through the board layout now. Maybe tomorrow will have something concrete. But still pending on Avalon docs forthcoming.



Here's my first pass on the Klondike 1 PCB layout.

Prettied up with designer colours.

Board is 1" wide and 1.5" long with USB tab sticking out about 0.5". I just realized I'll need to flip over the USB tabs so that the heat sink is on top. No worries, always stuff to fix up, but lots of time before any chips show up. This will run the same firmware as I'm developing for the Klondike 16 and 64.

Also noticed I lost some thermal vias during the copy over from 16 chip board. Ha ha, I was going to redo them anyway. It's just a quickie to see how it'll fit together.



I've been tinkering with the 3D rendering in Kicad this morning so people can see what this could look like.

My current projection for retail price is $16 for a kit, and $25 for assembled - both NOT including the ASIC.

A kit would include a plastic stencil (1 per order only) and heat sink, and you'd need a skillet or toaster oven, and some skillz to put it together. I still have to source a suitable heat sink - something 1" x 1.5" would be ideal. I'm looking for something awesome but cheap.

Assembled ones would be ready to use - you'd send me an ASIC, I'd assemble and ship back.

This is upside down.
The bottom will have something covering it like compound or a plastic wafer of some sort. The top would be a heat sink - no 3D model for that.

You won't see these until at least July but if I have a sample ASIC then I'll make a prototype and take pre-orders when I know it's functional, pending only ASICs then. Check out my Klondike 16 board if you need more than 1 ASIC per board. I'm expecting the K16 won't need to be fully filled, and at $35/kit would be better for multiple chips.



Here's an update of the 3D render for the K1 based on recent Avalon docs release. This is a final pre-prototype board. Will be checking it over for a bit before ordering a batch of boards for testing.

I've updated the parts list and added Gerbers on github for those interested in seeing the board close up. This is untested - do not order boards based on these Gerbers as there are likely some errors. Hopefully I'll catch them before my first prototypes.

I'm working on firmware now for both K16 and K1 (same code).

I know, looks the same, but it's not.
Added a chip and inner layers have the data signals now. ASIC also has thermal vias.
Enjoy.



First test board ready to send off to the factory.
Here is a render of it 2up, 5cm x 5cm. This is the under side.
2 LEDs on other side (top): Green - Power, Red - Activity. (position marked near left edge)
Heat sink will cover from 5mm left side to near the USB connector.
The small connector at left edge is for daisy chaining or connecting to K16. (It's an I2C bus.)
Although my test boards will be green, I'm really thinking of using white for the final product (because white and LEDs are just so bling - I just need a blue anodized heat sink).





First batch of 20 test boards just ordered.
Expect to see them here in 10-12 days if all goes well.
Smiley
Any updates?

Maybe we should organize a group buy for avalon chips here and send them to Klondike?
Latest status - waiting for K1 test boards to arrive. They were shipped on May 30th. so should be here in a few days. I'm setting up a prototype board to test firmware while waiting for the K1s. Until today I was waiting on PIC chips to come in. Some of the firmware code has been tested and scoped by choaztc and is working but even if I get fully functional firmware I'm still going to be waiting on Avalon samples to test/verify against, and those appear to be a couple-few weeks out.

I don't have spare Avalon chips ordered to make K1 sales with. I know of a few forum members who have chips and are waiting on final boards to produce a ready-to-use product, either on their own or with me providing boards or assembly (K1 only). So I think by the time chips begin arriving there will be options for those who want a plug n play K1 experience. At some point, when more certainty is available, pre-orders will be opened and jumping on that will be best bet for early on product.

Just a cross post for those not following the K16 thread.

K1 test boards are here and I'll be working on assembling a few for testing next. The firmware is mostly done and I'm expecting by the time the ASIC samples arrive the kinks will be worked out and I can focus on just the ASIC data signal issues.


800  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling ASICMINER Blade on: May 05, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
just get ready for the new avalon 40-45 gh/s

should cost 20-50btc.



can't wait Cheesy
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