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1701  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Generating Bitcoins with your video card (OpenCL/CUDA) on: September 14, 2010, 12:53:04 PM
I think you guys should give the pudding berating a rest. He did some work and made an offer, that's all. Of course it would be nice to have it done for free, and I'm sure it's annoying redoing it, but he hasn't done anything bad at all. And there is no reason to think he's putting malicious code out there, and if you are worried, obviously you should just not use it.

Here, here. I can't say I don't understand his actions, I just wouldn't take that route personally. In any case, if you don't like/trust his offer, don't take it. You can always code it yourself to understand the effort involved.

Heck, you can actually use my code or one of the others to help you bootstrap things and I bet ya even so you'll start to appreciate the effort that needs to be put in doing this Smiley
1702  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 14, 2010, 12:23:02 PM
the format is to pick 6 hexadecimal numbers exactly correct?  that's, what, 16 million possibilities?  Am I missing something, or is it very likely that this lottery will run for a very long time until we find a winner? 

 I would bet you this one will be over before the working week is...


Ha, friendly wager? 10BTC? :-)

And you can buy all the tickets you have coins for, no problem.

Working week ends Friday?

You're on! Yep, Friday. I'm on GMT+1 so so that's Saturday 5am for you EST people :p
1703  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 14, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
the format is to pick 6 hexadecimal numbers exactly correct?  that's, what, 16 million possibilities?  Am I missing something, or is it very likely that this lottery will run for a very long time until we find a winner? 

That's my gut feeling, yes, but not what the math says, it seems Smiley A full discussion on the numbers can be found on the Lottery announce thread. Still, a Pick4, with 65536 possibilities got a winner in 181 blocks, or somewhat over one day, and had less than 100 bets on it. I would bet you this one will be over before the working week is...

But I'm preparing to try out FreeMoney's idea of having multiple picks with different sizes, say a Pick4 and a Pick5 running at the same time. We're playing this by ear, so if you have some insight on how you think would work best for keeping you interested and betting, please do share!
1704  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 14, 2010, 11:13:52 AM
Updated stats:

7 accounts, 7 betters, bets ranging from 5 to 108 BC.
1705  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Introducing: The Amazing Anonymous Bitcoin Lottery on: September 14, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
There are 2 types of game, as you assumed;
- Lottery - A block number is defined as the one carrrying the result, a number of prizes are distributed based on how many hits you get on your bets (this one is fairly well explained on the rules page)
- BitPick - Every block is checked, only one winner. You buy bets, but they only become active 6 blocks later (to prevent me from cheating), from then on if your bet matches the most recent block hash (rightmost characters) you take the pot home. The number of characters to match are defined by the type of BitPick, so Pick6, currently active, matches 6 characters.

Ok thanks.

How long do your pick bets stay active? until they win? forever? until somebody wins?


Hey, I'm writing the rules page as fast as I can! :p

BitPick bets stay active for the duration of that pick, i.e. until somebody wins. Only one winner on the BitPicks.
1706  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Introducing: The Amazing Anonymous Bitcoin Lottery on: September 14, 2010, 09:16:28 AM
Website is confusing me.

On the main page,

On the Left:
Next Draws:
Block: 8000
Blocks to go: xxx
Pot: xxx
Side Pot? xxx

But then on the Right:
Pick6
Current Pot: 908
Last Block checked: xxx

Are these 2 different lotteries?
Does the pick lottery just keep going until it gives out 1 first place prize?

I could not find any information on the 'pick' lottery on the site.


You are right, I have dedicated all of my spare time to coding the lottery, it left very little to make it user friendly Smiley

There are 2 types of game, as you assumed;
- Lottery - A block number is defined as the one carrrying the result, a number of prizes are distributed based on how many hits you get on your bets (this one is fairly well explained on the rules page)
- BitPick - Every block is checked, only one winner. You buy bets, but they only become active 6 blocks later (to prevent me from cheating), from then on if your bet matches the most recent block hash (rightmost characters) you take the pot home. The number of characters to match are defined by the type of BitPick, so Pick6, currently active, matches 6 characters.

Hope that helps getting you going, I'll take some time to put this on the site soon.
1707  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A slightly more open approach to bitcoin on the GPU on: September 13, 2010, 09:33:51 PM
Anyone have a working OS X binary they wouldn't mind posting? I am still trying to get my build tools figured out on OSX as it is not my primary OS currently.

I can give you mine BUT it's not statically linking cuda, so you need the SDK installed AND it's 64bits. Assuming both these things are good for you, and you don't mind using the terminal instead of the GUI, give it a try. This is the latest version that does ~6.2MHs on my system (assuming I'm calculating correctly Smiley ) and you should try it with just one mining thread (although it works with 5, the speed actually decreases from 3 up, and if you generate, you can't be sure it was the GPU miner).

Grab it at www.datlatec.com/bitcoind.zip and let me know how it goes.
1708  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
Current stats since the handout began:

4 accounts, 3 betters, 2 with 8 BTCs and one with 16.
1709  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Should I have people post their BCin, and I fund it directly? You could verify the account exists.

nelisky, I hate to have you the policeman for something I created. Unless I'm hurting the lottery in a way I don't see, I'll just take the chance that the people on these forums are decent. If not, I'm out a couple coins, but wiser.

thanks for the lottery, hope someone hits it big.

84 Coins remain! PM/Post your BCin from the lottery!

I have no problem doing some checking. But trusting is really the better option. If someone wants to scam you, they can still, even using the lottery. But, c'mon, what are 8 coins when you can win 691+? heh

When you asked before there were 2 new accounts created. Right now they are 3... not logarithmic, but great Smiley
1710  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 07:48:18 PM
BTCIN: 1N24BVph2iUh7hHbpdSe2pHQ9a8V77AsiR

I sent 12 BTC again. Hope it works this time.

Yes, those 12 did arrive. Did you send the other 2x16 to the same address?
1711  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 07:32:44 PM
I'm actually waiting for my BTC showing on TAABL. I sent twice 16 but nothing shows up :/.

What is the BTCIN? The one you posted? Can you log in to your account there? (don't post your BTCOUT!)
1712  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Version Sugestion 0.3.1337 on: September 13, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
omg its 5kr1p7 k1d3 all over again... Smiley

I don't miss that era, so count me in for the ney
1713  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A slightly more open approach to bitcoin on the GPU on: September 13, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
From what I've read, you can use the -emu to emulate GPU code on your CPU. No idea if that's it or it actually works but it's definitely worth a shot.

Oh, I completely understand wanting to understand your tools. I just felt because I am so used to working with the IDE and strapping it all together it would be easier for me to write on there to work on my linux and windows boxes.
I don't even check if the gpu is cuda capable, for crying out load Smiley

BAHAHAHAHA!!! NICE! Might wanna get that checked out instead of silently failing or imploding ;-)

It is not silent at all when it fails. The result is that the hash calculated is all zeros, thus passing the difficulty check. Then the client double checks the hash and dies on an assert. Still, I could just not start the cuda miner and allow the client to still use the CPU Smiley
1714  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post an address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 07:00:47 PM

hmmmm.... Am I not doing this right? My intent was to help the anonymous lottery, but I'm taking away the 'anonymous' part.

Suggestion on how I can help seed the lottery? Should have asked first Wink

Well, I'd say the best way is to limit visibility. If people give you the address by private message, you can then keep posting as to how much is left, and I can keep track of the amounts received, confirming the process without too much disclosure. You know everything, but then again these are your coins until you give them Smiley

Too much work for you. If you have a snapshot of # of accts and totals, could you just compare and give an idea how many accounts and coins this brought in?

84 coins remain. Either PM me or Post for an address

Transfers: 2 -> yours and, I assume, sgtstein's (where's yours macdrai?)

I'll grep for accounts created in a minute and keep everyone posted
1715  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 06:50:38 PM

hmmmm.... Am I not doing this right? My intent was to help the anonymous lottery, but I'm taking away the 'anonymous' part.

Suggestion on how I can help seed the lottery? Should have asked first Wink

Well, I'd say the best way is to limit visibility. If people give you the address by private message, you can then keep posting as to how much is left, and I can keep track of the amounts received, confirming the process without too much disclosure. You know everything, but then again these are your coins until you give them Smiley
1716  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 100 BTC giveaway. Post address for bitcoins! on: September 13, 2010, 06:38:28 PM
Heh, I'm in.

154MWZRUMiUHkX1hDejbzuSGg53hpW7poe
That's my input to the lottery, send 'em there! I'll send over 16 of mine too!


shipped 8. post if you do not receive. 

Good luck!

92 Coins remain

A new transfer and bet of 16 entered the BitPick... so much for the anonymous part, hey ? Smiley
1717  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Running without wallet on: September 13, 2010, 06:37:23 PM
Export/import function for private keys?

On steroids... I want to be able to tell the client:
bitcoind collectfromkey privkey amount

And it would create the transaction with the privkey as sender, amount as, well, amount, and my own address (may provide it on cli too, of course) as recipient. It may be actually importing the private key, sure, although I don't think that would be needed technically, so as long as I can construct the transfer pdu.
1718  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Running without wallet on: September 13, 2010, 05:19:53 PM
Say you generate a new address on your client, its 1abc...
Now on another client you transfer to that address, so when the 1st client sees that transaction in a block, and checks it using its priv key, it knows the transaction belongs to it.

If you add that key to another client you can grab the transaction elsewhere, right? Spending it will only happen once, but multiple wallets can have that address.

What I want to do is to have the address+key so I can, without ever adding that key to my wallet.dat, create a transaction spending the value in that address+key, effectively sending it to my real address.

This would make for a proxy address schema, where you could send money to the network and then provide the key information to anyone to collect, but without actually holding the proxy key, it would be use and throw away.

Is that any clearer?
1719  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A slightly more open approach to bitcoin on the GPU on: September 13, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
I've tried to compile it under Ubuntu 64bit, but have run into issues with it. I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me some info about compiling for CUDA or a link to such information.

Are you planning on using an IDE? If so, what is it? I prefer Netbeans and have it set up and running on Fedora 13 64bit. It's a bit of a pain to get setup, but works quite well once you do have it done.

After a quick search this pops up and looks very promising for you:
http://lifeofaprogrammergeek.blogspot.com/2008/05/cuda-development-in-ubuntu.html


I ran out of time this weekend to get any work done and fried my PSU last week due to overusage. New 850W will get to me tomorrow night.  Cheesy

Thanks for the link! I'll be sure to try and follow as soon as I have a moment. The only thing is I don't have any linux with a cuda enabled gpu, but I can still try and build things up so others can test.

I don't use IDEs at all, I try very hard to avoid them. It pays in the long run to know and understand your tools.

As for helping in compiling, I've taken a very shortcut approach in my system, just copying the calls from the nvidia SDK template. There's a variable (is it debug or verbose?) that you set to 1 in your makefile and you'll get the calls it makes to compile printed out, so I just copied the switches over to the bitcoin makefile. That is one place I really need to improve, but didn't have time to. I don't even check if the gpu is cuda capable, for crying out load Smiley
1720  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Generating Bitcoins with your video card (OpenCL/CUDA) on: September 13, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
There are at least three other implementations around:
-artforz' but I'm guessing he's keeping his edge
-sgtstein hinted he was working on one too, and would release
-mine at http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009.msg12334#msg12334 which I have a major update for being tested, currently giving me 6200khs on my laptop GPU alone.

I would also count solar, who released MacOS binaries and a partial open source implementation, the SHA256 implementation in OpenCL:
http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/


Funny I missed that, as I actually tried the client on OSX back in the days. So there are a bunch of alternatives, only nothing maintained or production ready. I could maintain such a thing, but right now I'm so mixed up into many things that I have to balance cost/benefit, but I'd gladly support (i.e. donate to) someone picking this up. If there are no takers I'll still continue development, but at a slow pace.
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