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341  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Warning: WoodCollector on: January 21, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
Anyone know what was in those redacted posts? A bit weird he publicly posted it rather than PMd (though I'm sure he tried that as well but panicked).

Really .... no , he should prove his "honesty" why someone should pay him ?  WoodCollector  take a piece of wood ( bad wood) and make something....

You won't hear from him publicly again on this forum. He'll try to grab some cash via PM on his way out the door and he'll be gone. Probably come back in a few months, or a year or two, with a new name and scam everyone all over again.

I think he's done here now. There's no way he could re-brand himself. People would see through it straight away. The only way he could continue or restart would be to offer his products truthfully as laser-engraved but I doubt the community will let him do that easily without a bit of hassle.

Let me be clear, I am not a sock puppet account. I genuinely am a customer of WC. I bid of Mazuma and lost due to some issues surrounding the ending time. WC PM'd both Ironman and myself apologised for the lack of understanding with the auction end time and offered to make me any piece using a selection of woods and any size coin i wanted and he would give me a 2.5BTC valued coin for 1.5BTC (which is less the price of the winning bid).

I chose to have a coin designed based on the ideas of Anthonopoulos, re: ant colonies   and he delivered a sketch to me and asked my thoughts on his design. I liked it and as such paid for the coin to be completed. He finished the design about 3 weeks late and even added some gold inlay on the rear of the coin as a surprise and at no extra cost, i was not expecting this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900692

I liked the finished design and he sent it to me and I received it around a few weeks later.

January 2, 2015 , 7:26 am
Departed
London, UNITED KINGDOM
Your item departed a transfer airport in Heathrow, London, UNITED KINGDOM on January 2, 2015 at 7:26 am. The item is currently in transit to the destination.
January 1, 2015 , 6:26 pm
Departed
New York, UNITED STATES
December 31, 2014 , 11:09 am
Arrived
New York, UNITED STATES
December 31, 2014 , 10:48 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
December 31, 2014 , 8:14 am
Arrived at Sort Facility
ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
December 28, 2014
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS

I decided to place another order and have been updated along the way and consulted by WC at various stages. He asked my thoughts on different detail and he sends me photos at different stages. As a seller of beautiful artwork I have been nothing but impressed. The finished Unity piece is immaculate and the finish on the word just perfect. I am a very happy customer and love the work he has made me.

I don't care if the graphics are from shutter stock, I paid for a unique wooden coin that i could hang on the wall, and a piece that no one else in the world will own, a piece designed and chosen by me to remind me of a new found passion of mine, Bitcoin  Its the reason I have lurked these forums for the last 15 months. In my time here and on reddit i have seen scam companies come and go, companies and people that do not start off as scams but often turn into them come and go and it will be the downfall of Bitcoin.

This thread has wound me up, let me ask you - what customers of WC have complained about their purchases? What customers have said they have been scammed or feel scammed considering the majority are aware of these wild and unproved accustations and threads- with a screaming title of SCAMMER...You have dealt with this in the wrong way No customer has complained about their purchase - please correct me if i am wrong here.

I have seen photos of my second order and again its just what i wanted and again its a unique coin that i own that will be passed to a family member as a gift, to introduce him into Bitcoin as he is a lover of art, and that is exactly what i have - 2 pieces of bitcoin art that were in my mind bloody good value.

People saying he paid $1000 to Terrahasher as Terrahasher found WC a scam - not true, TH posted some 'surprise news' that woodcutter did want coming out yet as coin number 10 is a coin with a 500BTC price tag. WC for some reason wants to keep the surprise under wraps until he sells number 9. I believe him and the posts clearly reflect that.

Honestly, I am pretty sure you guys are in for a surprise but whatever the outcome is of this thread is I will be a buyer of his well priced pieces of Bitcoin related art.

And again to clarify, I am not a sock- in all honesty i couldn't give a shit if they were hand carved or printed using a 3d printer - i wanted and received some beautiful Bitcoin wooden art. Whatever the case, lessons will be learnt on both sides here.


This is what I don't understand. As far as I can tell none of his clients feel like they have been ripped off. If someone wants a partial refund of course they should be able to get it. Surely there are actual scams where people do not ship any goods / run off with hundreds or thousands of BTC that deserve more attention than this?

The people calling scam have never even received any of his work.

Still I can't participate in this thread anymore as the witch hunt is on and it never ends well.

Good luck everyone.
342  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sucks its nearly impossible to sell tangible goods for BTC! on: January 21, 2015, 03:08:20 PM
Onewallet.io is pretty cool and although small (at the moment) is like an eBay for Bitcoin: http://www.onewallet.io/

BitMit was awesome I miss that site. Anything else like that still around?



Onewallet looks cool.!! yeah even I miss bitmit.!! used to be awesome.!

Maybe I should make a new BitMit  Grin
343  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Warning: WoodCollector on: January 21, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
IMPORTANT:

I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.

I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.

Hmm ok this is starting to sound bad...
344  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Warning: WoodCollector on: January 21, 2015, 01:56:15 PM
I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him.  Crazy.

I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items.  If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.

I'm not trying to defend him. If he used a laser and didn't tell his customers that it is wrong.

I just think the pieces he carves / lasers / whatever he does do look nice and at least he does deliver a product to his customers.
345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2015 The Year Bitcoin Rebooted on: January 21, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB69jTh6C3A&feature=youtu.be

The fastest way to recover what we have lost is to start fresh and build strong, 2015 may just be the year BTC reinvents itself to the world. All these ideas are based on years of watching the Bitcoin space , keep in mind that they are personal opinions and are open to discussion.

Thanks

-Trevor Laird

Interesting video. I like your long term view and it is important to remember Bitcoin has a long way to go.

Thanks for sharing.
346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A way for everyday people to short BTC on: January 21, 2015, 12:03:09 PM
Great idea, six months ago.  A lot more risky today though.  The price could shoot back up and then the shorts get burned.

This could happen today, tomorrow or in 6 months but it will happen this year sometime.
347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sucks its nearly impossible to sell tangible goods for BTC! on: January 21, 2015, 11:55:15 AM
Onewallet.io is pretty cool and although small (at the moment) is like an eBay for Bitcoin: http://www.onewallet.io/

BitMit was awesome I miss that site. Anything else like that still around?

348  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Warning: WoodCollector on: January 21, 2015, 11:24:11 AM
Wow I only just saw WoodCollector's work today and somehow found this thread that has totally blown up.

At least he delivers the goods and in my opinion they look amazing.

No doubt he is using a laser for some of the finish. That is obvious.

All his clients seem happy(?) and he just needs to start mentioning that he uses a laser engraver for some of the finishing work.

Case closed.

EDIT: I also think the title of this thread is misleading. He delivers the work and his clients seem happy. Calling him a scammer is going too far in my opinion.

Going back to what I just mentioned: if you bought gold and received counterfeit, you technically received something, but is it not a scam? The high value is in the hand carving, which he is still lying about. You yourself admitted that it's laser-created, not hand carved.

People create art with all kinds of different methods and techniques. The amount of time put into it does not equate with value in the art world. It depends on many other factors. It's not as clear cut here as someone selling fake gold. That is black and white. It's either real gold or not.

EDIT: Also I agree with you. He does need to state that he uses lasers for the finishing work and I agree he should have been honest about this from the start. I still like his work though.
349  Economy / Reputation / Re: Nubbins is the type of Plague that destroys this community (video proof thread) on: January 21, 2015, 11:10:45 AM
This is getting out of hand.

Nubbins why don't you change the title of your thread to something like "WoodCutter seems to use lasers for some of his finishing work".

This is in fact the only issue.

Of course he is going to be upset he has many happy customers and delivers the goods and you are calling him a scammer.

Time out guys it seems pretty clear cut to me  Cheesy
350  Economy / Goods / Re: "Transcendence" a $750 Bitcoin Art Piece on: January 21, 2015, 11:03:51 AM

Front






Reverse


Commissioned by: ducatitalia
Material: Grade AAAA Cocobolo with Purpleheart base
Price: $750 usd

Transcend into the reimagination of economics...the reinvention of finance...the transition from centralized exploitation to individual empowerment as ducatitalia once said. This piece represents the infinite movement of BTCitcoin as it elicits curiosity into places unknown.

Transcendence was carved from Cocobolo wood imported from Costa Rica. Unable to be portrayed through photography, Transcendence moves while standing still as the high oil content of Cocobolo wood emits an iridescence much like a tigers eye stone or a hologram.

Thank you to ducatitalia for allowing me the opportunity to create this beautiful representation of Bitcoins infinite movement.

I think it looks awesome! I am interested. Even if you do use lasers for some of the finish Wink
351  Other / Off-topic / Re: The craziest shit you can buy with bitcoins right now? on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:54 AM
Epic thread!

I think the mammoth tusks take the cake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502145.0

If anyone can top that for outright craziest shit let me know!

Holy cow, that's a new record yes.

Let me know if you find something else crazy like that for sale for BTC Wink
352  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Warning: WoodCollector on: January 21, 2015, 10:41:32 AM
Wow I only just saw WoodCollector's work today and somehow found this thread that has totally blown up.

At least he delivers the goods and in my opinion they look amazing.

No doubt he is using a laser for some of the finish. That is obvious.

All his clients seem happy(?) and he just needs to start mentioning that he uses a laser engraver for some of the finishing work.

Case closed.

EDIT: I also think the title of this thread is misleading. He delivers the work and his clients seem happy. Calling him a scammer is going too far in my opinion.
353  Economy / Reputation / Re: Nubbins is the type of Plague that destroys this community (video proof thread) on: January 21, 2015, 10:36:43 AM


Best popcorn gif ever  Grin
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The future of Crypto - Best etablished (PoW) Coin to buy or mine in on: January 21, 2015, 09:51:07 AM
Why does it have to be a PoW coin?
355  Economy / Goods / Re: Canadian Adult Pair of Mammoth Tusks on: January 21, 2015, 09:40:35 AM
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!

It would have been sold a long time ago if the OP asked for a more realistic price. The price of mammoth tusks arent nearly as much as what he is asking for. Even for ones that are this big.

Hmm I'm no expert on mammoth tusk prices.  Cheesy How much do you think they should be?
356  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-01-05] Yahoo Finance - SpaceBIT First Bitcoin Space Banking Program on: January 21, 2015, 09:35:40 AM
SpaceBIT, The First Decentralized Space Company, Is Pleased To Announce The Unprecedented Space Banking Project For Digital Currencies

Ian Angell, Emeritus Professor at the London School of Economics and a co-founder of SpaceBIT, is available for interviews

The company is set to launch a constellation of nano-satellites that will act not only as depositories for digital cash, but also as a platform to provide global and universal access to remote areas around the globe where payment infrastructures are non-existent.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/spacebit-introduces-first-ever-space-044600698.html



Nice find their and am sure will be interesting to see how this progresses into the future. I did hear of something like this been done last year with Bitcoin in space. Will have to see how this progresses and unfolds. The only problem is tho if their going to try and act or be acting as a crypto bank then what happens if that gets hit by a space storm or hit buy a meteorite knocks it offline and moves off earth's atmosphere. Then all the coin that it holds is gone into space never to be seen again. In some ways I do like the idea of it but in others I do not.

That's true I hope they figure out some kind of redundancy so coins can't get lost in space forever. I like that Ian Angell, Emeritus Professor at the London School of Economics and a co-founder of SpaceBIT, is available for interviews. Seems to be a serious project.

I think if they can provide some sort of back up procedure that all their wallets are backed up on like paper wallets with private key to them then should be fine and can easily recover from it too. Only time will tell with this project but it looks to be an interesting one to say the least.

Yes that's true shouldn't be too hard to implement secure backups with a paper wallet or something similar.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Silent Bitcoin and Silent Litecoin on: January 21, 2015, 09:30:07 AM
Tyrone ordered a press release with us for http://silentvault.com with built in Bitcoin asset exchange, Bitcoin wallet with anonymous instant transactions, and more.

Tyrone and the Silent Vault team were very professional and easy to work with.

You can see their PR on Yahoo Finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/silentvaults-anonymous-bitcoin-multi-asset-031500220.html

Silent Vault is an exciting project and I wish you success!
358  Other / Off-topic / Re: The craziest shit you can buy with bitcoins right now? on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Epic thread!

I think the mammoth tusks take the cake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502145.0

If anyone can top that for outright craziest shit let me know!
359  Economy / Goods / Re: Canadian Adult Pair of Mammoth Tusks on: January 21, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
I've been here a long time and this is probably the most fascinating thing I have seen available for sale for bitcoin!
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: January 21, 2015, 08:56:54 AM
Great to be following your progress.

Please make sure you have Windows and Linux wallets as well as source before you start the IPO.
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