I can see husbands telling their wives, "honey, its ok, I know it uses a lot of electricity and heats up the whole second floor of the house, but it does make us a little money and makes me happy".
Then you have the teenager or grown man that refuses to leave mommy..."Mom, I know the electrical bill was $945, I'll give you some bitcoin later on this month".
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Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.
Be careful folks.
Mums the word. Sock puppet is the word...... or wear protection.... So 10K new users on Bitcointalk this week then?  |
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dafuk DHL guys mined your avalon and after weeks deliver you?
Yeah... DHL... Very believable that some random DHL driver KNOWS about bitcoin and KNOWS that the box he has in his truck has an Avalon in it and then he risked his job and prosecution to steal the package and mine with it for a month. Then, after mining for a month, he decides to risk his job AND prosecution to repackage the shipment AND HE WOULD NEED TO PRINT NEW LABEL (express labels do not work if the date is wrong) and then smuggle the box back into DHL's system. Does not seem very likely does it? So, why don't we look toward someone else who could have STOLEN this pre-paid unit and MINED with it? Or, alternatively, why don't we try to figure out why an avalon that was COMPLETELY wrapped in the plastic (look at the un-boxing photos) could have gotten full of dust. And how the dust could have been spread so nicely around (not just piled up near the holes), almost like the fans were running? Any ideas? Are you saying a competitor paid off DHL, took the package, mined with the unit while they tested and reverse engineered it, and then put it back into DHL's system? What company would be so desperate to have a working ASIC that they would resort to such measures? Maybe if they were trying for months and kept promising shipping soon or next week... Any ideas? |
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7950 for LTC
Do not buy a card for BTC mining - Avalon Batch 2/3 and ASICMiner will make you regret it unless you're only buying one to game/work on.
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Back to the thread title - while it may be shipping in days, English allows for larger units like weeks, months, years that might be more appropriate. June 23rd 1st day orders for Singles are still not shipped (60+ after this thread started).
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Amazingly prescient of BitSyncom at the time. It's clear who the pros are at this point.
I should have spread my risk with Avalon in retrospect. Live and learn.
If you check out the Avalon threads, you see that people are receiving devices which have been used for months. They are dusty with melted connections, damaged capacitors and broken parts. One person has an unusable device due to damage. Avalon doesn't respond to return requests. Pay several thousands of dollars and there's a chance they'll ship you electronic waste. Gee that dusty Avalon hashing away at 67GH/s looks nasty compared to the pristine table I have over here. It's also eerily silent - oh that's right, I don't have my BFL toaster over Single mining on the table. I'm looking forward to my dusty Avalon and my unicorn delivered Single. |
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Happy for you (and jealous  ) |
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You do realize that most of you, ASIC miners, will lose more BTC than you will make? I still salute you! Your sacrifice is very important for us all and is very appreciated.
Mining is integral to supporting the network. What do you suggest as an alternative ? If I recall Vlad had one of the biggest farms out there. Don't know if he still does. |
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Silly analogy since I don't really watch American football but this popped into my head. Know how when there is a fumble and the ball rolls around and both teams think it's out of play. Then all of a sudden they start scrambling for it. I think it's the same thing. Everybody assumed 10K units would be out in 2 months last October (well, not the BFL doubters). When that failed to happen it was like  and then  and now the mad rush to get a device before everybody else. Not that ASICs are any better than GPUs or CPUs but they're a huge leap ahead. Early adopters of each step win. Each company is trying to sell to early ASIC phase adopters. |
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You do realize that most of you, ASIC miners, will lose more BTC than you will make? I still salute you! Your sacrifice is very important for us all and is very appreciated.
The King returns to the mining subforum  I was here back on 2010, BTW - had to make a new account single I lost access to the old one. Haven't seen you in these neck of the woods for a long time. |
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2-4
Not worth it when a $60 video card will give you 200 MH/s
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Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.
Be careful folks.
Mums the word. |
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I still see BFL being about 1-2 months away from shipping their 23/30/50/60 miners. They might be able to put out 20 peppers a day but the singles are still in prototype phase (no testable chips for the new board).
I think ASICMiner is the one to watch rather than Avalon.
Disclaimer: Have BFL preorder - partial order refund. Have Avalon B3 coming.
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So what have we learned so far? 2 years later
We learned that no matter how irrelevant an old topic is somebody will dredge it up |
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Most likely a power issue as mentioned. If you put a Kill-a-watt on it and start mining you'll notice the power draws goes up until the temps reach a steady state. Probably when the rig shuts off it is overextending itself. Either take a card out, undervolt or downclock one card to reduce the load. Maybe downclock the hottest card.
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Dedicated GPU in a desktop mining makes sense.
Mining on a laptop to earn $10 at the expense of a $500-$2k laptop does not.
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Ouch, 10 days after 1st attempt at delivery  |
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In some places 60-70c is not doable. In Southern CA it gets pretty hot and my cards get to 60C in just 5 seconds of mining. Ambient 75F.
If VRMs stay under 90C and card is under 85C it should last 2 years plus.
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5770s mine 90% as fast as 7770s and you can find them used for < $50...
Yes but for $10 more after selling the game code a 7770 with a warranty and lower energy usage is a better deal. |
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Just because somebody isn't talking doesn't mean there's nothing brewing. All it takes is a early miner to sell off 15k coins and that would be enough to fund their own ASIC project. Where there is $ there is a will, and where there is a will somebody will do it.
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