Thanks for the quoted post, I never saw that warning tbh. It’s kinda deep into the thread. I only reapplied because my last application was after a long term inactivity so I thought Hhampuz might’ve skipped my participation request solely based on that.

I removed my latest request. Although based on the rule you quoted, I fit right into that timespan of 2 weeks. It’s been 14 days since my first apply.

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And here I am yet again afraid of the artificial inflation effect, just like 2 years ago. I wonder, will the supply of BTC sold through ETFs be verifiable?

I don’t know where you’re from but if you buy something with Bitcoin p2p and you’re afraid of the situation presented in OP, think about creating a written agreement for the purchase. You should have there your (and the other peer’s) information, including your address and the receiving one. In case something goes wrong, you’ll at least have a signed document which is infinitely more convincing than a journal where you write down entries.

But since you’re this paranoid, and for a very good reason, I have a different advice.

Are you on a loss currently with your KYC-ed Bitcoins? What I’d do is I’d sell it back to an exchange, print and archive that transaction plus bank statements, withdraw cash and go somewhere I can buy BTC without needing KYC.

Afraid of the different price BTC will have by the time you’ll buy BTC? Do you have enough savings and will to “risk” doubling your holdings for a day or two? Let’s say you have 0.1 KYC-ed BTC, currently worth around $3k. Go get yourself another 0.1 BTC but without KYC. Now sell your KYC-ed BTC immediately and you’re care free.

There’s no point in having these fears, seriously! Don’t let these attacks on BTC catch you. There’s no such thing as taint. It’s just an attack to keep us away and scared.

And Wasabi is working with a company which extensively, aggressively, profoundly checks who my address belongs to. I’ve used Wasabi CoinJoins before and on the long run made little mistakes that practically invalidated my previous privacy that I obtained through CoinJoins. Have 20 UTXOs in a single CoinJoin round. If even 50% of the owners fail to preserve their privacy post CoinJoin,, Coinfirm has a 10% chance of finding who the others were.

What’s your point?

So if I set up another coordinator and somehow get my privacy going with a few rounds of CoinJoins organized with a few hundred other participants, Coinfirm doesn’t block the resulted private coins?

Is that because it’s very likely to mess up my privacy on the way or is it because Coinfirm represents just a gate of access to CoinJoins? If former, this sounds malicious. If latter, then what’s the point of Coinfirm’s partnership with you? I set up a coordinator with 99 criminals and we’re doing a few dozen CoinJoins. Now we’re allowed to use Wasabi for having private coins? Why the partnership then

I don’t think there’s a right way to do it. We have different lives and the same amount of earnings can change them in a different way.

• You might want to help your family pay debts and get a better home
• You might already have a pretty good economical situation in your family so your goal is to earn a passive income
• You might want to diversify and not hold all eggs in the same basket

You name it. If you have 7 brothers and all of them borrowed money to buy a house, it may be more worth it ton the long run to help them out before looking for a passive income - as I said, the situation is different for each of us.

I think most of the price difference comes from the fact that your country sells the kit with battery included and the Amazon link you posted is a product that doesn’t include one. It may be worth the electricity savings if you get a good quality solar panel and a long-lasting battery. From my experience, all cheap solar panel kits stopped working after months or the battery didn’t last at all anymore so take that into consideration as well.

It’s the result of doing it all for the hype and to roll with the waves. NFTs were only temporarily successful for this reason: people thought they’d earn a ton of money off them. If there were no NFT apes and pepes and all of that, nobody would’ve really cared. Tell everyone you can make a lot of money off Lightning and it’ll be the next hype and trend - that’s pretty much what people only care about. Especially when euphoria’s at ATH.

There’s a single thing I’ll probably never understand: why people pretend they know everything without ever researching the subject. I’ve got friends who years ago I was trying to convince to invest at least a small portion of their savings in BTC and they were aggressively contradicting my facts with their imagined thoughts and beliefs. I get that mainstream media gets you to believe a thing although it’s not always true, but it’s very annoying. Don’t tell me something’s a scam if you don’t even know what I’m talking about.

Follow your instinct and don’t let yourself be emotionally disrupted by the thoughts of those around you. I found they often pulled me back from my plans and now I have many plans I regret not following because I know they would’ve been successful. But that doesn’t matter - if they were wrong 10 times they’ll continue to be wrong an 11th time too..

I think it was a video game and I regret it. This was back in 2015 when they all said BTC was dying. I ended up paying $60 for a game when Bitcoin’s value was under $200, so you guessed it - I paid around a quarter BTC on a game because I thought BTC will only continue to fall and die so why not spend it all.

I’ll always regret this decision but I can’t do anything about it other than find the transaction, print it, frame it and hang it on a wall to remind myself of how stupid I am sometimes. Lesson learned, a hard one every time I look at BTC’s price and think about how much money I could’ve had if I kept it instead of spending it.

And the issue isn’t even that but the way they’re deceitfully trying to portray what Wasabi is. So many centralized exchanges and nobody gives a damn, we have a free choice, but situations like Freewallet and Wasabi need to be solved differently because they’re different in a very negative way to their customers, to newbies trying to learn and even to Bitcoin itself.

You can’t solve fungibility and privacy by working with surveillance. I’ll say this again, it’s an Orwellian style of doing business. We’re giving you privacy but first we need to check you out and put a tag on you is their way of conducting business. Disappointing, deceiving and last but not least, utterly immoral.

I agree it should be delisted or kept with a very visible warning about their cooperation with surveillance firms.

I also get why some of you wouldn’t censor them for what they’ve done. It’s true, they should still be out there for people who desire paying for inexistent privacy, but their constant lying and manipulation leads me to believe it’s better off without them than with them because a lot of users will be fooled otherwise.

You ask them whether they’re really the solution to privacy and they give you links to read text an average Joe wouldn’t even comprehend. Then the average Joe looks at you, anonymous account arguing with them, looks at Wasabi providing false proof (and I’m calling it false because you ask them about apples and they tell you about trees). In the end, it’s not that likely the average Joe gives up on them because Wasabi continues to fight for their case although they know they’re in the wrong.

Hence, I tend to believe they should either be delisted until they spread truth instead of manipulate and deceive, or they should be kept there with a big red flag for new users.

I think they just don’t know what they’re doing. Many of the hype followers are there just to try their luck and hope their shilling will make them rich. Even if they recommend investing in Bitcoin, it doesn’t mean it’s a good advice. Bitcoin investment requires handling a ton of risk - and if you can’t handle it, you’re down for a slippery slope to failure.

Someone with $20k asking Bitcointalk where to put their money? Sounds like a recipe for a big disaster.

Asking for the general consensus is fine. But useless at the same time if you ask me. I wouldn’t trust even a million people giving their honest advice. General consensus isn’t always the best. Do this in the middle of a bull run and everybody’s telling you to invest your life savings in BoobCoin lol.

Why do you think just because some rich guy or company bought BTC or rigs it means we’re turning bullish? Do they ever predict the future? Do they have a working crystal ball of some sort?

I’ve followed investors before who made exaggerated investments only to find themselves in a huge loss. It’s no indication that we’re bullish or that it’s “smart money” - it could be dumb money and you don’t even know it.

It’s a question with no definitive answer. There are miners who are only doing this as a business, institutions only buying Bitcoin for short term profit, devs maybe doing this just for the sake of their job (there were rumors before that Coinbase will hire Bitcoin devs but idk if they ever did), etc.

On the other hand, the opposite of all the above exists too. After all, it’s all about who believes Bitcoin can succeed.

For the sake of this thread though, I’d say generally it’s the miners and devs being most bullish, followed by institutions and finally the noobs. Noobs deserve last place because they’re only bullish when Bitcoin’s bullish.

This solution should come with a big, big warning: once your private key or seed exits SafePal, consider it compromised and move to a new one. It’s pointless to use a hardware wallet if the seed doesn’t remain locked in it. Once you inserted the seed in a computer, your security has been significantly lowered.

You are literally working with a dystopia-esque surveillance company. It’s obviously a massive red flag that “WasabiWallet.io” has chosen to censor their users and work with surveillance companies instead of keeping their moral levels high and not giving up their posture in the privacy segment of Bitcoin, which you definitely have.

How does Whirlwind Money collect their customer’s information?

Even if they did, they’d still be able to collect way less information than your partner Coinfirm collects and heavily analyzes to find identities and links.

In fact.. if you’re this sure there’s no privacy when using Whirlwind, MixTum or whichever other service, why do you call them competitors?

What are the chances I massively mess up my privacy during the coordination of a WabiSabi coinjoin with peers of my choice?

When you’re investing in BTC through banks, you’re not owning the BTC you buy. It’s similar to investing in paper gold from banks - you buy a paper on which it’s written that you own a certain amount of gold. That in theory guarantees you own the real gold too and can claim it any time, but in reality who knows?

This is a fully custodial service and heavily centralized. Even if they surprisingly allow you to spend and receive using your own addresses, they’ll ask you to explain your transaction when large sums are involved or they decide to trigger the AML KYC laws. It sucks, and Bitcoin was purposely made to avoid these situations.

So of course banks will happily provide their users a way to quickly buy and sell BTC without having to learn how to use a wallet, how Bitcoin works and everything else. It solves two things for them: you don’t get the free finance and banks get to own the Bitcoin you buy for you. In some ways this is progress, but in others it’s them advancing with their plans of basically centralizing what can’t be centralized. They’re hungry for power, they’re sick of us being in control and it shows.

Buy every now and then and stop wasting time on finding the perfect timing. The perfect timing is always. You’re still part of the first of those brave enough to encourage themselves and invest in BTC. You’ll always be a step ahead of the rest who’re still deciding whether it’s worth it or not.

Timing the market is useless - you’ll get a few decent timings but if you screw up once, you’re gonna be pulled back from the progress you made. Why do this when you can just relax and invest at random times of the week?