UPDATE ABOUT MY CASE AGAINST BC.GAME SCAMMERS FULL CASE EXPLANATION ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what happened::i had a bonus of $129 usd deposited with 40x wager requirement ($5189 more or less) i have turned the $129 into $4000+ usd and met the entire wagering requirement of $5189 which is insanely wrong it's definitely not 40x as every bet counts only towards 20% of it's real value (ex: you place a $10 bet but in fact you counting only $2 towards the wagering rollover) so this 40x/$5189 becomes almost $50.000,00 roll over, then ! given this conditions. so i met them all and won $3409 (have it all recorded in video) at time when the money got removed from my balance all together and left me with $99 usd ! here's the image of the last bet made before the balance got disappeared/removed link to the image: https://ibb.co/vz2s5sfi want my winnings ! i have hustled them, and it was definitely super hard to achieve almost $50k worth of wagering at only 2% face value, with only a $129 initial bonus/deposit, so you can't simply take them away. this does = not exist at all who in their sane mind would sit down for 48 hours and keep '' playing '' games, to account to a 200x/$50,000.00 wager requirement and '' in the end '' pocket back only $100 bucks ? this is non-sense, so they have to pay my $3400+ !!!! i talked to chloe yesterday she said she escalated the ticket to the back end team to investigation/resolution. can you kindly check on that and resolve these specially because as can be seen on this photo here https://ibb.co/p3mh39yit claims the money was " withdrawable funds " so if it stated it was withdrawable funds, then it has to be paid. so i await for a resolution for this, thank you. scammers profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2503677reference link: https://help.bc.game/en/articles/8412942-a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deposit-bonus-at-bc-gameamount scammed: $3428.13 payment method: $129 usdt proof of payment: https://ibb.co/7y7sf26pm/chat logs: https://ibb.co/dr2kfryhttps://ibb.co/xpmy3vk additional notes: here is the video proof of the issue happening live https://streamable.com/5dlsna(at the end of the video is the exact moment when they took away my balance after the wagering requirement has been accomplished/completed !) on their terms there's nothing statingt that we cannot keep the withdrawable funds from the rollover area as stated on the arguments above, as well as cannot withdraw our winnings as per the link: https://help.bc.game/en/articles/8412942-a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deposit-bonus-at-bc-game---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE CASE WAS OPENED A DISPUTE ON CASINO.GURU, WHICH THEY HAVE = LOST ENTIRELY AND HERE'S THE FINAL CASE RESOLUTION RESPONSE PROOF WE ARE BOTH OWED AROUND $10000.00 + USD BY THEM, '' COMBINED '' MYSELF AROUND $3248 AND EARLY PACO OVER $7000 THE CASINO GURU STAFF HAVE PROCLAIMED THAT THEY SHOULD '' HONOR '' OUR WINNINGS, AND PAY THEM BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING A DAMN ABOUT THE COMPLAINT ANYMORE AND SEEMS THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO WALK AWAY WITH THE SCAM, THEN !  |
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I'll try to reach them once more through PM and probably TG-ing "High Priest", the representative recommended to you by Efialtis so he can tell the forum representative to come back online and give explanation about their change of findings. Let's see if we can re-deescalate this issue.
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You should do the same to me and earlypaco because they clearly also LOST their case against us on casino guru and got demanded to pay us our winnings but are not doing so, so far.... Not just on this case here ! I believe yours is the one with a lot of posts in all caps and profanities? Sorry, I couldn't force myself to finish reading that thread and, thus, didn't have an understanding of that thread. I rarely PM representatives for cases that I didn't oversee, and I didn't oversee cases that I didn't have an understanding on. THEN FUCK OFF AND DIE, ASSHOLE |
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THE TRUE DEFINITION OF '' TL:DR '' IS = I'M A FUCKING USELESS LAZY FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT '' IN MY OPINION.... ANYWAYS HERE'S THE SCREENSHOT SHOWING THIS ASSHOLES LOST THE CASE NOT ONLY AGAINST ME, BUT AGAINST @earlypaco AND WE ARE BOTH OWED AROUND $10000.00 + USD BY THEM, '' COMBINED '' MYSELF AROUND $3248 AND EARLY PACO OVER $7000 THE CASINO GURU STAFF HAVE PROCLAIMED THAT THEY SHOULD '' HONOR '' OUR WINNINGS, AND PAY THEM BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING A DAMN FUCK ABOUT THE COMPLAINT ANYMORE AND SEEMS THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO WALK AWAY WITH THE SCAM, THEN ! |
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Askgamblers said I cannot re-open the case. So all there is left to to is warn other for the unfair practices of BC.game.
I would appreciate if you could support the flag but it's up to you.
I'll try to reach them once more through PM and probably TG-ing "High Priest", the representative recommended to you by Efialtis so he can tell the forum representative to come back online and give explanation about their change of findings. Let's see if we can re-deescalate this issue. Do you mind to shot me a PM with High Priest's TG handler? And, by the way, your link to your flag is wrong. It's this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3236[...]
A flag has been created here: [...]
You should do the same to me and earlypaco because they clearly also LOST their case against us on casino guru and got demanded to pay us our winnings but are not doing so, so far.... Not just on this case here ! |
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FUCKING SCUM ASSHOLE CASINO PIECE OF SHIT
LOST THE BATTLE ON CASINO GURU AGAINST ME AND EARLYPACO AND STILL DECIDING THAT IT'S BETTER TO WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING
AND CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING CONSIDERED A = SCAM
RATHER THAN PAY US OUR MONEY
FUCKING THRASH CASINO SON OF A BITCH
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Hey earlypaco, the people from CGB board commission have replied to my email about the situation stating there's nothing they can do about this motherfucking scammers. Here's their response, check: Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board (GCB) is currently not able to handle your request. We are actively in the process of modernizing our gambling legislation and setting up our online gaming policies and procedures. As soon as we will formally start handling complaints, we will announce this on our website. We expect this to be the case in the first half of 2024. We kindly point out in advance that the GCB will not investigate all complaints. For example, the GCB does not have the authority to adjudicate disputes between the complainant and the accused party and to settle claims or award damages. Only if a complaint indicates a violation of the applicable regulations, the supervisory task of the GCB entails that this will be investigated further. For the time being, we kindly suggest, that at all times you seek legal advice for any claims you may have vis-à-vis the license holder or other party or parties. We refer to the following page that contains a list of law firms established in Curacao that may be able to assist you: http://www.dutchcaribbeanlegalportal.com/legal-contacts/law-firms?sid=102:Law-Firms-CuracaoSo i think i'm gonna move this forward and hire a competent law firm to pursuit my fucking winnings + a dividend from legitimate embarassing damages. I'll just wait for the resolution by casino guru first before pulling the trigger with this. |
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The owner of 500 casino has an account in Bitcointalk, but he isn't active in the forum. Perhaps, we don't need him in this case as UserU has already stepped in here. The user was unlocked after the investigation concluded and he was able to withdraw everything. Unfortunately, this is a necessary thing sometimes and the user was informed of that from the beginning. I don’t know why he chose to do this, but he does talk badly about Casinos pretty often in his CG account. This is fucking BULLSHIT. As OP said: Typical behavior of ALL this casinos. When user is LOSING THOUSANDS it's = SUPER FINE and no KYC is triggered, or anything, but if we HUSTLE them and WIN BIG at some point then they come with ALL SORTS of fucking bullshits to PAY OUR FUCKING MONEY $. Typical behavior of ALL THIS CASINOS this days. They are just a bunch of nasty scammers, nothing else. |
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all / most online casinos fucking sucks this days man. no tower or mines game ! (how come dude, you serious ?) and when they have it it's either 1) thrash (poor designed / slow / buggy) or 2) scam / rigged to death (have proof of that and will open a scam report about a few of them on scam report section soon, with live video proof again, and etc, when i have the time) a few examples of what i mean listed by the different casinos i played at, so far 1) bc.game: buggy / poor designed clicking on one tile only will not reveal anything, and the mines will get stuck / will not display properly until you click on a 2nd mine then only after clicking for the 2nd time it is that the 1st mine will display. 2) stake.com: the mines game is ugly / suuuuuuuuuuper shit man, one of the poorest representations i have ever seen. their tower game also just as shit as the mines i don't know which is better lol so i stay far away from this casino then. 3) bitsler.com: the mines game is 36 tiles in total as opposed to 25x and it's also super shit / fucked up on the same level of the stake.com one which is absolute garbage. this one here is next to absolute garbage too. 4) betfury: very decent representation of the tower and mines game, just that it's rigged to death both games are next to impossible to progress at all after you made certain amount of profit they will rig it / hunt down your $$$$ and leave u with nothing (if you fool around and let that happen) 5) 500.casino: complete scam / rigged / manipulated (have proof of that) tower game and i'll post a scam report about them soon with live video proofs that they under-served my hands/the rng of the game was rigged to serve under fair results and i'll prove that soon once i have time to open the thread as currently i do already have a valid scam report going against bc.game casino. so not recommended to play here as well. 6) bit kong: in my opinion the best & fastest mines & tower game so far. one can indeed progress but they work same way as betfury they will allow you to make significant $$$ and in between some rounds they might throw a 10x or 2x or 5x to your tiles/chosen tower, which will multiply your gains massively and put a smile on your face only to wipe out your profits and start rigging / manipulating / under-serving the hands with statistically/probabilistically under-fair picks for your results which will wipe out all your profits if you fool around (same as betfury) so my recommendation with this 2 is to make as much $ as possible and = get out before 40 minutes, because after 40 minutes they get into overdrive and start rigging shit to death and you won't win/progress anymore and it'll be just stress.... 7) chillbet (rigged to death) one can barely pass from the 1st tile on this one here it's totally rigged no chance to the player at all lol....  cbet.gg very well done mines & tower games, non-proprietary/non-original, and just completely rigged as well, same as on 500.casino 9) fairspin non-proprietary games/non-originals mine and tower games, slow withdrawals, high minimum bets, thrash rtp (close to 100% rigged) not recommended at all 10) crashino should be called thrashino  lolllllllllllll as it's complete thrash / poorly designed / buggy, not recommended. 11) punt.com thrash / too slow / poorly designed 12) Coins.Game Well designed/Well done game and also AVERAGE QUALITY OF '' FAIR '' hands given to player (not much rigged) but it's unfortunately TOO SLOW (no hotkeys) so not recommended at all here (and no tower game also!) and a few other small casinos that ain't even worth myself mentioning (cuz i don't remember also ) let me know if you guys know about = other casinos with tower or mines games (or both) that i did not mentioned in here / did not tested  ?? please share here with me so i can go and test it, ok ? don't share casinos who don't have mines or tower game (or both) ok ? as this is the subject of the thread and for your information in my opinion a casino who does not have this 2 games should be called = thrashino (not casino ) lollllllllllllllll in fact ALL CASINOS should have ONLY THIS 2 GAMES so that i could get BILLIONAIRE by ripping/hussling them off cuz every day i'm husslin husslin husslinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn  |
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yeah brudda if this casino guru do not resolve your case send a email to this niggas here: https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/contactthey are '' cc'ed '' on my case already from the curação egaming CEG that attached them to the convo, from this email here > info@gcb.cwand they should reply me within 7 business days (some days has passed with no reply yet but need to wait more, let's see) |
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Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.
As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.
lol
So they simply said they had a licence from Curaçao, when it was false. I wonder how many more are like this, because every now and then new casinos appear that don't have problems to deposit and then they hide behind licenses and regulations to put problems for withdrawals. They run a signature campaign that has been put on hold and there have been other accusations, which al together seems to confirm that it is 100% scam. Yes, so now CEG has said that it's forwarded my case to '' other '' commission board, that SHOULD have competent authority to handle and to be able to move my request further as per this text on below CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”
Recommendation: handle the referred matter within 7 (seven) days after referral
CEG recommends under the CCRG 2022 that the authorities provide the said individual with an answer within 7 (seven) days after referral, as, for AML/CFT purposes, CEG is not authorised/has not been engaged to determine, in compliance with article 4(5), CCRG, whether the message contains a description of events that may qualify for criminal referral of either an unusual structure or act or conduct by player (a participant as meant in article 1(bo), CCRG 2022), operator (a person as meant in article 1(bj), CCRG 2022 and/or both.
If you are seeking assistance in handling this matter and/or information on available subscriptions for complaint handling/ICHS outside of CEG’s Ecosystem, please contact your CEG B2B representative/contact person directly and include the ICHS ticket number as mentioned in the subject line of this email.
Best regards,
Curaçao eGaming | ADR Department so let's wait and see i'll update shortly once i hear something back again |
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As said, CEG does offer ICHS, a non-mandatory service that is available free of charge to all players asking for support pertaining to IP Operators within the CEG-Ecosystem. However in this case, CEG cannot offer ICHS free of charge and/or without prior engagement. CEG has determined that it has not been authorised to make any determinations in this case, as the potential complaint pertains to an IP operator that exists outside of the CEG-Ecosystem. The brand, as meant in article 1(i), CCRG 2022: (1) may be regulated by a licence holder, other than CEG; or (2) may have in the past been regulated by CEG, however not at the time the said message was received and/or the operator engaged with another licence holder without proper deboarding with CEG; or (3) may be unregulated and it is offered as a falsification as meant in article 2(s), CCRG 2022 of an original under the false appearance that it has obtained the rights from the licence holder or any third party to do so, such as however not limited to breach of intellectual property rights and the use of a facsimile aimed at creating the false appearance of being the original; or (4) may be unregulated as meant in article 2(a), CCRG 2022. In order to check/re verify whether an IP Operator is regulated by CEG, please use CEG’s licensee register: https://www.curacao-egaming.com/public-and-players/authenticityCEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.” Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed... and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino. As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all. as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block. lol |
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im curious, why do you think towers is a game of skill and not chance ? since every hand is unique and results dont depend on previous/next hands
Because the tower game is similar to zener cards / card guessing games (which can thus be TRAINED/IMPROVED) different than just pressing buttons on a slot machine and '' hoping lady luck '' would help you. It's methods used by " thought " training schools. refer to examples: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_39TDX_r8gY2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTgHq9qPGr0Where essentially the object in question is hidden from sight and it takes a good deal of '' guessing '' on the individual (high use of brain) to make the correct '' prediction '' of which tile/square is the correct answer. This requires a lot of brain effort, and trained guessing skills. Certainly, the tower game can be played RANDOMLY like a game of chance, as well. But a '' trained '' human on guessing skill, can excel easily, on this kinds of games, and thus beat them/lower the house advantage significantly and eventually reach some fat payouts/jackpots this way; provided the game is FAIR and have no cheating mechanisms into play (which most casinos sadly employ as they are not here to lose $$$ despite their bullshit excuses about PROVABLY FAIR system, which is a lie ) A trained individual would have above average probability of predicting the outcome correctly (with odds of like 1:30 of reoccurring or better, for example) and this is more than enough to beat the game once or a few times, putting the player in significant profits. On tower, to reach the top and hit a jackpot, one does not even need to be super skilled on guessing cards/guessing games. One only need a SMALL DEGREE of advantage/skills (in a '' predictable '' way/repeating basis, not just a random lucky run but on a test of at last 100x or more rounds) in order to be massively profitable and hit one or several jackpots in the proccess... |
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I would never deposit in a casino like this in my life
Yeah 100% right, i'm also not playing on this motherfuckers anymore...... By the way let me ask: You mentioned not playing on '' crypto '' casinos anymore. So, which casino are you using this days ? Could you name a few where you been playing if you don't mind ? I'm always trying to find new casinos WORTHY of being played at, and with a nice selection of '' skill '' based games (like tower, cards, etc) that depends on skills rather than chance, and can be beatable. And: As a last resort based on a argument similar to yours (of it being illegal) i'll try to open dispute directly with CEG (Curação Egaming, their regulators) as soon as my claim dispute finishes, on casino guru, then.... |
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Still not resolved no. They are playing stupid, saying "you already withdrew your funds". Well, that was only my deposit plus some small casino winnings, which had nothing to do with the confiscated sports winnings.
This casino is a fucking scam man |
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HERE'S THEIR LATEST RESPONSE BELOW TO THE CASE ON CASINO GURU: IF CASINO GURU DOES NOT RESOLVE THIS, WHICH MOST LIKELY THEY WON'T I'M GONNA OPEN A OFFICIAL DISPUTE WITH THE CEG DIRECTLY AGAINST THEM FOR MY WINNINGS. I understand your feelings on this matter. However, it is crucial to thoroughly go over the terms and conditions for each promotion in any casino, as they might vary based on the specific offer. If anything seems unclear, our live support is always available to clarify any doubts. It's worth noting that there was an option to opt out of the bonus as well.
We always aim to provide a positive experience for our users. While I regret that this situation didn't meet your expectations, the bonus was applied in line with the terms. Unfortunately, we can't do anything further regarding this specific case.
Best regards,
BC.GAME '' PETTY '' SCAM CASINO MAN ! WITH FUNNY ASS BONUS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DOES NOT WANTS TO LOSE EVEN $10 BUCKS, THEY JUST WANT TO STEAL / TO WIN. |
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BIG TIME SCAMMERS MAN AND FURTHERMORE: ONLY TOOK ACTION / STARTED REPLYING OR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE SITUATION AFTER I HAVE REPORTED THEM TO CASINO GURU, FIRST OF ALL THIS DEMONSTRATES THEIR CLEAR ' COMPROMISE ' WITH THEIR REPUTATION LOLLLLLLLLLLLL |
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FUNNY ASS REPLIES FROM BC.GAME TO MY CASE, ON CASINO GURU COMPLAINT RESOLUTION BOARD THEY DOING ALL IN THEIR POWER TO TRY TO DENY THE PAYOUT OF MY WINNINGS LOLLLLLLLLLLLL EVEN STATING THAT '' IF I HAD NOT USED UP MY DEPOSIT / LOST MY DEPOSIT AND SUBSEQUENTLY PLAYED ONLY WITH THE BONUS, I WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE WINNINGS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL " FUNNY ASS JOKERS ! HERE'S THEIR REPLIES IN FULL Dear Adam
The player made a deposit of 129.215591 USDT and received an equal 100% bonus, resulting in an additional 129.215591 USDT.
Key points from the deposit bonus terms include:
- Players must use their real funds before tapping into the bonus.
- After fulfilling wagering requirements, the maximum amount that can be withdrawn from the bonus is equivalent to the bonus amount itself (capped at $10k), meaning 129.215591 USDT in this scenario.
Here's a breakdown of the events:
1. The player utilised their entire deposit, reducing it to $0.
2. Gameplay then continued using the bonus funds of 129.215591 USDT.
3. The player then met the wagering requirements.
4. At this point, the player's account balance stood at 3379.132111 USDT.
5. The excess 3249.91652 USDT was subsequently deducted.
6. The allowable amount, 129.215591 USDT, was left for the player to use normally.
While the sequence aligns perfectly with our deposit bonus terms, I recognise the potential confusion from the term "withdrawable funds" in the popup. Although the balance was technically "withdrawable", the terms imposed a cap, resulting in the addition of only 129.215591 USDT.
Best regards,
BC.GAME Hello Adam If a player has used up their deposit and is playing with bonus funds, then the mentioned situation applies. However, if they still have remaining deposit funds, they would receive their winnings as usual. It's crucial to highlight that we later modified this rule, allowing players to use their bonus funds initially and potentially double their deposit if they meet the wagering criteria. Furthermore, at the end of the end of last week, we've temporarily suspended this bonus to implement further enhancements. Further information of the ratio of wagering for different games is within the deposit bonus terms - https://bc.game/help/bonusBest regards, BC.GAME FUNNY ASS SCAM JOKERS |
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It seems they don't give a fuck about their reputation at all and have nothing to say neither about my case anymore neither about the other 2 cases of scam opened against them here as well.
It's taking too much of time to resolve, i'll give them until next tuesday max, to resolve this.
If not i'm gonna open an official dispute against them soon, with the CEG directly (Curação Egaming)
Which is their license regulator...
Pretty sure with all my evidences i'll win this and they will have to pay my winnings, and stop being fucking dirty bitch ass scammers.
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