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921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk is Satoshi Nakamoto on: November 29, 2017, 05:23:22 PM
Elon Musk is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I am Satoshi Nakamoto.  Smiley
922  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: November 29, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
I think the price of a copper membership would probably be more than a low level account. If memory serves me right, I was able to sell "member" accounts for the equivalent of roughly $20 worth of BTC (prices were in BTC) in 2014/2015. I paid about $38 worth of bitcoin for my copper membership plus the tx fee.

With both buying an account and buying a copper membership, there is no guarantee you will come out on top if you buy either of these with the intention of using them to scam. If you buy a member account (or a copper membership) with the intention of using this to scam, you will need to steal at least $20 (or $40) just to break even, and if you do not, the value of your investment will presumably go to zero when your scam attempt is exposed, and receive negative trust. In both cases, one can presumably make money in non-scamming ways.

If you are only comparing the price... if the title gives them a better chance of successfully scamming for more money, it could be worth the increase?... especially right now when it is a new rank and not even listed or really explained anywhere except this thread. People send coins to accounts that create a new account with a similar name to an escrows or another trusted member, now they have the option to get a new rank and allowing them to put even more spin on how their account is "trusted".

It just seems like this could be helpful to a scammer, maybe eliminating the title and coins under the name could potentially avoid this perception issue while still providing the functionality. Provide the paid option to allow lower restrictions, fine, but is there a need to add the rank to every post, PM, etc. that the account does?

I think it also creates a false perception when a legendary member buys this and gets "Copper Member". If you had clean feedback, you would inaccurately be perceived as more trusted, or at least a higher ranked account than other legendary members who do not have "Copper Member" under their name.


I'm also not sure if you are helping or hurting my argument here... since a lot of people here see you as a scammer (and a good handful seem to think you are an active scammer)... If my argument is valid, you, as a scammer, would not want to lose the copper membership option!  Tongue
923  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: November 28, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
As above said, they usually just buy an account to make the thread anyway (and oftentimes they're hacked accounts). Images were only removed in the first place because some idiot was botting the forum with porn. I doubt allowing them to post images will suddenly make them invincible scammers but I'd rather them do it on a fresh account they just bought.

I may just not have enough insight into this but I feel like if I'm a scammer who currently buys accounts, it seems like it would make more sense to now buy the Copper Membership.

I would think that account sales come with their obstacles for scammers as well... if they are not using an escrow, they can easily get scammed themselves. If they are using an escrow, they're probably paying for it. They could buy an account that gets tagged 3 days later... etc.  Yes, this may ultimately reduce a piece of account sales between users, which I'm all for... but it seems like a double-edged sword which gives scammers a quicker, cleaner way to establish a new account and setup a thread for scamming via ICOs/altcoins. If I'm a scammer, sending stolen coins to theymos from my last scam, so I can get back to scamming quickly, seems like a much faster and cleaner solution for the scammer.

I'm also not sure why they need a rank of "Copper Member"... if this is just to post images, provide the access to the account and maybe list something on the profile page of the account indicating they've paid to post images, I don't think it's necessary to list them as a "Copper Member" everywhere... or that they should even get 2 coins under their name.

... Would it be considered abusive if a DT member left neutral feedback on new Copper Member accounts explaining what a copper membership is?  Grin
924  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: November 28, 2017, 04:14:31 PM
It's basically just a rank to automatically whitelist you and enable you to post images (which can be vital for some users).

I feel like it would be helpful to scammers starting up an ICO, altcoin, etc. and posting all of their re-used images. I realize there are legitimate reasons for legitimate people... maybe it's just my pessimistic perception of which group is helped more with this rank.  Undecided
925  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: November 28, 2017, 02:28:07 PM
Theymos, is there an updated number of how many people have purchased it so far?

45
Search by position: "Copper Member"

I really don't get the point of this rank but it doesn't bother me enough to rant about it.  Wink
926  Other / Meta / Re: New Gold member rank? on: November 27, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
It's for newbies who wants their restrictions (such as posting images) to be lifted. You basically get it for a small donation. Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104
"Gold member" I believe represents a custom title that he wrote himself, he could edit it to anything he wants. I don't think I could consider the two coins as a bug because It was meant for newbies so It made sense to have two only.

Seems like a bug (or just confusing) to me if the main point of the forum rank/coins are there to distinguish a users activity count. I realize copper should probably only have 2 coins because it is for newbies but I've always seen the coins as a way to symbolically represent an activity count.
927  Other / Meta / Re: My bitcointalks account was hacked on: November 22, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
HOW TO CONTACT WITH THEYMOS OR CYRUS?

All you can do is send a PM to Cyrus first and wait 2 weeks, if he doesn't answer, PM theymos, then wait again. Account recovery can sometimes take months and is not guaranteed. If you post a signed message on this thread, DT members can leave feedback on the account to warn others.
928  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked, please send red trust. on: November 20, 2017, 03:38:24 PM
I've tried a few different ways but cannot verify.
OP, if this is legitimate, correct the signed message.
929  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lauda, Sold bitcointalk accounts, Giving neg for others for same reason. on: November 18, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
I'll start... just this one.   Shocked
I can only respond to this with: "Why don't you want theymos proving Quickseller wrong about you?". Unless you ask theymos to list your alts, any statements of anyone should be considered invalid.  Tongue

theymos is welcome to list my nonexistent alts, although I'm sure he has better things to do.  Grin
930  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lauda, Sold bitcointalk accounts, Giving neg for others for same reason. on: November 18, 2017, 03:25:50 PM
Well I certainly would love to know all of Lauda's alts and Quickseller's alts... and everyone else on the forum.
Everyone man up (or woman up) and start posting their alts and all of the accounts they control! I'll even take them in PM Smiley

I'll start... just this one.   Shocked
931  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: November 17, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
I agree that instead of naivity I better had chosen the word innocence. Thanks for the correction.
I believe you had it right the first time. Actual newbies are in fact naive when it comes to this forum, its philosophies, and how it operates. I'm not saying they are all idiots but they usually do not understand how the forum itself operates and, maybe more importantly, why. And until you understand through experience and/or reading tons of old threads, it's hard not to fall down the rabbit hole of conspiracy.


Had you stayed a newbie for 7 years you would have been able to stay easily clear from all the corrupting political intrueges that are going on among top-legies.
I don't know what a legie is but I'm going to assume it's some sort of term for a Legendary account, which has nothing to do with the trust system.

If you are referring to DT members, I don't believe most DT members even know each other or communicate. There are certainly a few "cliques" that develop but this is expected human behavior to me. It certainly doesn't automatically mean they are colluding. I assume you have some actual examples to show here with all of the political intrigue going on?


Perhaps you still have been able to stay 'clean'. That would deserve you sincere congratuations.
Corruption and dishonesty exist all over the world, but I believe the majority of the administration, moderation, and trust system of this forum are "clean".


However money and power expose people's ugliest nature. Have you not pushed others down in order to stay on a top spot of the hill?
I've made no money due to being on DT and the power is a bit overrated.

And no, I've never pushed anyone down to get or remain on DT, which I would certainly not consider a "top spot on the hill".  I've only tried to learn the ins and outs of the forum and have always left honest and accurate feedback to try and help legitimate members of this community.
932  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: November 16, 2017, 07:52:59 PM

Big words coming from an account 1 day old and from someone who does not even know what DT1 and DT2 means.
 Roll Eyes


One needs not to be a Legendary to speak truth. In fact you'll probably find more truth with unspoiled naive newbies than with legies who are knee deep stuck in political intregues to protect their status.

One who seeks out truth from naivety is likely to have a lack of experience, wisdom, and/or judgement.

Not sure what the Legendary status has to do with any of this, I could have been on this forum for 7 years and be a newbie... but knowledge, likely escaping you, is needed to understand this.
933  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: November 16, 2017, 06:07:16 PM
Oh, the whole trust system here is abused to the bone. Expose a scammer with power and he will give you red trust. Expose more scammers and you'll be considered by others as a scammer yourself. There is absolutely no objectivity at all in the trust system here.

Big words coming from an account 1 day old and from someone who does not even know what DT1 and DT2 means.
 Roll Eyes


What does DT1 and DT2 mean?
934  Other / Meta / Re: banned by a forum moderator on: November 16, 2017, 05:53:10 PM
So what did your "husband" do to feed your family 6 months ago?
935  Other / Meta / Re: My account (Odalv) got hacked on: November 15, 2017, 08:47:46 PM
November 13th I was trying to recover my account, but did not receive email.
I did not receive any notification about email change. I did not change email.

Have you ever used the same password for your e-mail account that you had been using in the past on this forum? (not including the password you set in June)... or have you always had different passwords on each?



I had different password. I think. This is not my primary email a read every day. Time to change my email password :-)

Just want to rule out the possibility of a recent hack/leak and trying to determine if there is a possibility your e-mail account itself was compromised, due to the 2015 hack. My thought being that someone has cracked your password from before 2015. Assuming the e-mail & forum account had the same password <2015, and you have kept your e-mail password the same, the password could be used to get into your e-mail and utilize the reset link.
936  Other / Meta / Re: My account (Odalv) got hacked on: November 15, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
November 13th I was trying to recover my account, but did not receive email.
I did not receive any notification about email change. I did not change email.

Have you ever used the same password for your e-mail account that you had been using in the past on this forum? (not including the password you set in June)... or have you always had different passwords on each?

937  Other / Meta / Re: My account (Odalv) got hacked on: November 15, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
5. 6. 2016, 21:25

    Bitcoin Forum

New password for Bitcoin Forum

To clarify, June 5th, 2016  is when you changed the password?
(June 05, 2016, 07:28:36 PM - Odalv - password reset via email)

And I should assume this November 13th change was not you?
November 13, 2017, 01:12:40 PM - Odalv - password reset via email


... and should I also assume you did not get any notification about an e-mail address change on your account?
938  Other / Meta / Re: My account (Odalv) got hacked on: November 15, 2017, 06:53:36 PM
Hi, my account Odalv got hacked. My password was 9 chars long (letters and digits).


When was the last time you changed your password?  

And can you sign a message from a prior used address?
939  Other / Meta / Re: Q: Should hilariousandco *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no on: November 15, 2017, 09:31:21 AM
Trust ratings are not moderated, but that does not mean trust ratings can be given out for any reason without consequence. If feedback is being left for questionable reasons, and/or under questionable circumstances, then others will be reluctant to trust his opinions and other trust ratings. I disagree with the rating, and think it shows poor judgment, and I am posting that opinion.

I'm not sure what the questionable reasons and/or questionable circumstances in this case would be. It sounds like he had banned an account due to copy-pasting, which violates a rule that was put in place for a reason. Because he has the power to ban, this would be the first step, as it was, and shows that he has concerns with the account because he is banning it. An admin overruled the ban, but hilariousandco still doesn't trust the account, his next option as a DT member is to warn others about the shady activities of the account. Whether there is some sort of vindictiveness or ego behind the decision is speculation, the statement he gave as the reasoning implies to me that he was trying to help others by warning them of the account's activities since it had been unbanned, which I think is a legitimate use of the trust system.




I don't think it is so much that hilariousandco is a moderator, but rather that he is a moderator who advocated for certain action to be taken over an issue, was overruled, and left feedback over that same issue.

He didn't go back and re-ban the account, so his action as a moderator was overruled and accepted. I have no problem with someone expressing their opinion as a DT member after that. If a moderator cannot act as a DT member, why are they on DT?  If he had left feedback first, and then banned the account, would you have a different opinion here? 
 
I guess my thought on the situation is that hilariousandco, if he was NOT a moderator, would have left feedback as a DT member stating the account was copying/pasting. Because he was a moderator, he banned because he has that authority, and Cyrus has the authority to overrule it... but hilariousandco still has the right as a DT member to leave feedback because of his personal concerns.
940  Other / Meta / Re: Measures against scams misusing the Bitcoin name on: November 14, 2017, 10:10:38 PM
ill say it here...BITCOIN CASH IS THE REAL BITCOIN

No, it is not. Tapping your ruby slippers together 3 times and repeating it will not make it true.  Smiley
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