Well this is my issue... is this "fee" supposed to be for recognition, or like theymos stated, is it supposed to be just for enabling a newbie to post images and lift some restrictions?  theymos stated this was not supposed to be recognition of a donation.

I've logged into the account and verified the screenshots are not faked.

A lot to go through here.  

For reference, archived with embedded images: https://archive.is/wUeEd



Has anyone verified the PMs yet?

EDIT:

Elon Musk is not Satoshi Nakamoto.
I am Satoshi Nakamoto. 

If you are only comparing the price... if the title gives them a better chance of successfully scamming for more money, it could be worth the increase?... especially right now when it is a new rank and not even listed or really explained anywhere except this thread. People send coins to accounts that create a new account with a similar name to an escrows or another trusted member, now they have the option to get a new rank and allowing them to put even more spin on how their account is "trusted".

It just seems like this could be helpful to a scammer, maybe eliminating the title and coins under the name could potentially avoid this perception issue while still providing the functionality. Provide the paid option to allow lower restrictions, fine, but is there a need to add the rank to every post, PM, etc. that the account does?

I think it also creates a false perception when a legendary member buys this and gets "Copper Member". If you had clean feedback, you would inaccurately be perceived as more trusted, or at least a higher ranked account than other legendary members who do not have "Copper Member" under their name.


I'm also not sure if you are helping or hurting my argument here... since a lot of people here see you as a scammer (and a good handful seem to think you are an active scammer)... If my argument is valid, you, as a scammer, would not want to lose the copper membership option! 

I may just not have enough insight into this but I feel like if I'm a scammer who currently buys accounts, it seems like it would make more sense to now buy the Copper Membership.

I would think that account sales come with their obstacles for scammers as well... if they are not using an escrow, they can easily get scammed themselves. If they are using an escrow, they're probably paying for it. They could buy an account that gets tagged 3 days later... etc.  Yes, this may ultimately reduce a piece of account sales between users, which I'm all for... but it seems like a double-edged sword which gives scammers a quicker, cleaner way to establish a new account and setup a thread for scamming via ICOs/altcoins. If I'm a scammer, sending stolen coins to theymos from my last scam, so I can get back to scamming quickly, seems like a much faster and cleaner solution for the scammer.

I'm also not sure why they need a rank of "Copper Member"... if this is just to post images, provide the access to the account and maybe list something on the profile page of the account indicating they've paid to post images, I don't think it's necessary to list them as a "Copper Member" everywhere... or that they should even get 2 coins under their name.

... Would it be considered abusive if a DT member left neutral feedback on new Copper Member accounts explaining what a copper membership is?  

I feel like it would be helpful to scammers starting up an ICO, altcoin, etc. and posting all of their re-used images. I realize there are legitimate reasons for legitimate people... maybe it's just my pessimistic perception of which group is helped more with this rank. 

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I really don't get the point of this rank but it doesn't bother me enough to rant about it. 

Seems like a bug (or just confusing) to me if the main point of the forum rank/coins are there to distinguish a users activity count. I realize copper should probably only have 2 coins because it is for newbies but I've always seen the coins as a way to symbolically represent an activity count.

All you can do is send a PM to Cyrus first and wait 2 weeks, if he doesn't answer, PM theymos, then wait again. Account recovery can sometimes take months and is not guaranteed. If you post a signed message on this thread, DT members can leave feedback on the account to warn others.

I've tried a few different ways but cannot verify.
OP, if this is legitimate, correct the signed message.

theymos is welcome to list my nonexistent alts, although I'm sure he has better things to do.  

Well I certainly would love to know all of Lauda's alts and Quickseller's alts... and everyone else on the forum.
Everyone man up (or woman up) and start posting their alts and all of the accounts they control! I'll even take them in PM

I'll start... just this one.  

I believe you had it right the first time. Actual newbies are in fact naive when it comes to this forum, its philosophies, and how it operates. I'm not saying they are all idiots but they usually do not understand how the forum itself operates and, maybe more importantly, why. And until you understand through experience and/or reading tons of old threads, it's hard not to fall down the rabbit hole of conspiracy.


I don't know what a legie is but I'm going to assume it's some sort of term for a Legendary account, which has nothing to do with the trust system.

If you are referring to DT members, I don't believe most DT members even know each other or communicate. There are certainly a few "cliques" that develop but this is expected human behavior to me. It certainly doesn't automatically mean they are colluding. I assume you have some actual examples to show here with all of the political intrigue going on?


Corruption and dishonesty exist all over the world, but I believe the majority of the administration, moderation, and trust system of this forum are "clean".


I've made no money due to being on DT and the power is a bit overrated.

And no, I've never pushed anyone down to get or remain on DT, which I would certainly not consider a "top spot on the hill".  I've only tried to learn the ins and outs of the forum and have always left honest and accurate feedback to try and help legitimate members of this community.

One who seeks out truth from naivety is likely to have a lack of experience, wisdom, and/or judgement.

Not sure what the Legendary status has to do with any of this, I could have been on this forum for 7 years and be a newbie... but knowledge, likely escaping you, is needed to understand this.

Big words coming from an account 1 day old and from someone who does not even know what DT1 and DT2 means.
 

So what did your "husband" do to feed your family 6 months ago?

Just want to rule out the possibility of a recent hack/leak and trying to determine if there is a possibility your e-mail account itself was compromised, due to the 2015 hack. My thought being that someone has cracked your password from before 2015. Assuming the e-mail & forum account had the same password <2015, and you have kept your e-mail password the same, the password could be used to get into your e-mail and utilize the reset link.

Have you ever used the same password for your e-mail account that you had been using in the past on this forum? (not including the password you set in June)... or have you always had different passwords on each?

To clarify, June 5th, 2016  is when you changed the password?
(June 05, 2016, 07:28:36 PM - Odalv - password reset via email)

And I should assume this November 13th change was not you?
November 13, 2017, 01:12:40 PM - Odalv - password reset via email


... and should I also assume you did not get any notification about an e-mail address change on your account?