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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: August 01, 2016, 06:55:20 AM

There is No Opair team! that's the real truth. This is just one man dev team, creating a [Suspicious link removed]d enough to entice individuals and bought linkedin accounts just to get people to trust him for the ICO funds. But not US. Wasserman isn't fooling everyone here.

he is willing to give the linkedin accounts of these dev team members but not provide evidence these so called linkedin accounts are real people?
Fu(K That!

Yea, they should provide the community evidence of the developers being REAL people that work on the project, otherwise, those are just random accounts for me.
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opair - A scam?! on: July 31, 2016, 10:01:46 PM
I think none of the project escape away unless they face failure, we should have to support their project and have to make them successful and I hope they will not kick their success and will not escape away from here with black faces, the project is looking more attractive and it looks that they have put all of their struggles in there to start their project of Opair. So we do not have to blame anyone for nothing.

We didn't blame them for anything because we do not have any evidence at this point, but there are some trust issues about this project.
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 10:00:34 PM
Come on guys you give money to an anonymous person on the internet. Why he doesn't use escrow ? How you know the developers are real ? I see some Linkedin pages with little information , why don't they identify themselfes ? This coin smells from miles that is SCAM .

This is my thought exactly, we will wait and see how it turns out.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
He said another thing, read again: "What the hell do not understand? They use escrow OR NOT will not change anything. If they were scammers as you say, they simply launch a basic wallet and escrow will release the funds."

Whoops, my fault.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 05:06:48 PM
What the hell do not understand? They use escrow or not will not change anything. If they were scammers as you say, they simply launch a basic wallet and escrow will release the funds.

Which escrow do they use? I didn't see wasserman saying he is using an escrow.
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 04:41:46 PM
Ok both of you are sick...100% checked. Stop interpret all wrong, they has never said that.

He said something logical that all users of this forum we are saying in this thread. We can not yet say whether or not this scam, there is no evidence. It has not even finished the ICO. Time will tell us. But for the moment, the actions of this campaign is affecting us (investors) more than anything that the developer has made. I totally agree.

Quote from: Wasserman99
These people are doing it all wrong with their campaign against us. If we were a scam as they say (WE ARE NOT!!), they would be helping us because it will end up being them who kill the project and therefore those responsible; and not us.
Following their logic, they are hurting himself and affecting our investors. Cancel is not an option because we want Opair become a reality. We will adapt to the funds that we get.

Quote from: Wasserman99
And i'm not saying that is the fault of investors. I say there is a user group that is campaigning against us. That weakens the project, which affects our goal. Then, if we cant reach our goal, we can not finish everything that we promised. Not because we have escaped or we were incompetent, but because a few users who can not read some rules before investing attack us.

Quote from: Wasserman99
(about the hangout) It's an idea, we are not sure and less now. You have to understand that both Frank and Hao, have jobs in major companies. With what has happened is very difficult to reach the 700 BTC ideals we wanted as minimum. Not our fault, because everything we have warned before (escrow). Is it our fault that two investors do not read the rules? Of course not! So if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get 700 BTC if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds.  Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.

We are ALLOWED to discuss what we think is wrong with this project, I said multiple times that I have NO evidence of this project being a scam, it's just suspicious.

1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 04:14:46 PM
My message got deleted again now. İ told him about legal prosecution thats what he doesnt like Smiley Now its our fault that the project will fail ahahahha. And he says the dev wont go public becasue we threatened them with legal prosecution. Okay its clear now 100% SCAM

probably wasserman invested himself in his project to push the funding up.

He now justifies the lack of information about the team because you "threatened him".
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 03:57:49 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg15768519#msg15768519

Okay so we are not going to get any more information than what you currently have.
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 3 days | New Blockchain Platform on: July 31, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
CoinManiac1 and YIz: Kellendil already threatens me privately. It is logical that Frank and Hao are now cautious about giving more data on them.

I don't know what he wrote you, but that's his own business. we already have their full alleged names, countries, and companies they have worked in before, if someone wanted to find them, he would.
Giving more information and an interview at this point will only help the project, not harm anymore involved.
1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 3 days | New Blockchain Platform on: July 31, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
Some points that were discussed in our Slack:

1) (about the hangout) It's an idea, we are not sure and less now. You have to understand that both Frank and Hao, have jobs in major companies. With what has happened is very difficult to reach the 700 BTC ideals we wanted as minimum. Not our fault, because everything we have warned before (escrow). Is it our fault that two investors do not read the rules? Of course not! So if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get 700 BTC if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds.  Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.

2) (about the campaign againt us) These people are doing it all wrong with their campaign against us. If we were a scam as they say (WE ARE NOT!!), they would be helping us because it will end up being them who kill the project and therefore those responsible; and not us.
Following their logic, they are hurting himself and affecting our investors. Cancel is not an option because we want Opair become a reality. We will adapt to the funds that we get.

3) (about escrow again) We said like a million times our reasons and there were a lot of projects (even big) that didnt use an escrow. It is not an obligation. We decided not to do that and we announced it in our thread, in the FIRST POST. Please read

Regards

Nobody is gonna make a "campaign" against you. at first, I truly believed in this project. but, there are unsolved questions regarding this project.

No escrow, yeah, people want an escrow, they feel safer this way.
No references of Frank's work online, he could easily be a made-up character.
And you don't identify yourself, which makes people wonder why. using a pseudonym surely not gonna help users trust you more.

1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 03:17:38 PM
I posted this yesterday and have yet to get an explanation from Frank. 

Been doing some detective work before I drop some btc on this project.   According to Frank's Linkedin Profile.  He lists that he is a Certified Scrum Developer (CSD).  https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig

Anyways, I tried to verify his certification but it came up with no Frank Rettig:  https://www.scrumalliance.org/community/certificant-directory.aspx?firstname=&lastname=Rettig&email=&location=&company=&csm=True&csd=True&csp=True&cspo=True&cst=True&ctc=True&cec=True&rep=True&author=True&page=1&orderby=&sortdir=

Frank, please explain.  Thanks. 

Please let us know if you get any response. this is getting weirder by the day.
1112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 01:11:20 PM
Read this guys:

I wanna said this again:

"I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different (such as using escrow) but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit."

Moreover, if any user wants to do drama/fud/etc you can create your own thread. Here it is to discuss Opair and its evolution, not on issues that were already cleared a thousand times. If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!

In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.

Have wasserman talked about doing interviews, I mean look at the OP annoucement,

-   We are seeking to make as many interviews as possible with the crypto - fintech press. It's time to spread the word.
-   We believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision.

Why is he hiding his identity, since he said giving out identities from the beginning.. Just saying Grin

In addition Frank's identity is no more than a random name at this point, I cannot find any traces of that name online.
1113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Opair - A scam?! on: July 31, 2016, 01:07:15 PM
Depends on your definition of scam. It is definitely possible that they might delete the whole thread and run away with the money.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160731100303/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0

He doesn't even need to remove the thread, he has bitcoins, probably a VPN, and a fake identity. he could just log out and nobody will ever find him.
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to know legit altcoin that offer legit ICO? on: July 31, 2016, 03:42:09 AM
if developer is unknown, run away
if developer is known for scamming, run away
if ANN says premine, run away
if ANN says weird things, run away
if ANN looks bad, run away
if ANN has shiny graphics but nothing else, run away
if ANN has very bad english, run away
if ANN seems too good to be true, run away
if ANN seems too bad to be true, run away
frankly only 1% are left
of this 1% you can wipe out 99% again, so you're left with very little choices

over time your eyes are trained
just be careful and use common sense
sorry for this introduction but you will see what I mean my friend.

You covered all the coins on bitcointalk haha  Cheesy
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Opair - A scam?! on: July 31, 2016, 03:33:47 AM
Okay so if you have been following the Opair project you might have noticed it is fishy. yep, not NECESSARILY A SCAM, but very well could be.
The dude refused to use escrow, has LinkedIn accounts that are less trusted than me, ignores the interview request, and refuses to give refunds.

Please, look at the whole matter and decide for yourself what do you think this project is. don't take my word.

So what do you think happens now? he already have 50,000$ in his hands. he could run away at any moment.
Opair's original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0
Opair's unmoderated thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.0

STEEMIT explaination and discussion: https://steemit.com/money/@soapsadu/opair-project-a-scam
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 02:19:02 AM

Wait what? is that the same guy?
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 02:10:13 AM
if you want to open a thread about this coin, i think it would be better if you bring everything about the coin to this thread too.

I cannot post pictures  Smiley

give me the link i will quote mate

Which link? I didn't really get what you mean
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 02:05:04 AM
if you want to open a thread about this coin, i think it would be better if you bring everything about the coin to this thread too.

I cannot post pictures  Smiley
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Unmoderated thread on: July 31, 2016, 01:55:40 AM
Wasserman99 decided to delete one of my posts on his thread, I have no idea why, it was just a random post.

Anyways, people think this coin might be a scam and I really think it needs an unmoderated thread because he deletes some comments. so there you go.

Original topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0
Altcoin discussion thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570356.0
Scam accusation by scammerdie: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587226
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 4 days | New Blockchain Platform on: July 30, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Although I do believe this project is completely legit, I agree to the concerns that have risen here at the thread.

If Frank posts a video with his face talking about Opair, it would help confirm his identity and open the door for the big investors. no code is shown to the community yet, which could rise concerns as well, that's why I think an interview is CRUCIAL at this point if you want the ICO to succeed.
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