As we told be before we are going to refund you no matter what.
This is actually not a system bug.
It happened because of CloudFlare and there's also a possibility that you changed those numbers with Inspect Elements which is very easy even for a kid.
You are just an addicted gambler crying for your lost 0.002BTC and you are complaining and trying to what you lost back through the act of Extortion.
And I have no idea how you convinced trusted members here to believe your fake story and supporting you even when your proof makes no sense.
Now I am thinking I made a mistake giving you a bonus of 0.002 you don't deserve it on 1st place.
We admit that there was a visual bug but it's a rare one.
On the other hand as HCP said you didn't make a video but a Screen shot which can be manipulated easily.
I ask the Honorable Members on this forum to review this accusation until OP has a solid proof.
You guys are impossible. All you do is deny and insult. This is specially reserved for people who don't have any argument, like a kid that got caught doing bad. I convinced them with proof and your bad attitude. What makes no sense are all your argument in this thread. Again "bonus" is not the proper term. IT'S FREAKING REFUND BECAUSE YOUR SYSTEM CHEATED ME. Thank you for refunding me of what you cheated me. Mistake my ass. You owe me that, you cannot twist it no matter what you do. Again, visual bug my ass. Go shut down your scam site. Also, what proof did you show? A screenshot as well right? I'll just let the people decide for this. I'm done with your scam site. |
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Lone Shark... what you need to do is look at your full bet history and import it into a spreadsheet and calculate the total wins and loss amounts with a running total. Looking at these screenshots, it is impossible for anyone to say what really happened... On your screenshot, the rolls show as losses with a -0.0005. On theirs it shows as a win of +0.00001. What nobody can see, is what actually happened to the balance at this time. You claim that it "ate your balance"... but we can not see that... and unfortunately, I doubt you can prove it unless you happened to be recording video at the time  They say it was just a "visual bug" and that, while it displayed as a loss on your screen, in the server logs (and now in the new screenshot of your roll history) it shows as a win, so your balance would have been unaffected. Like I said, dump your ENTIRE roll history... and start creating a running total based on win/loss amounts... you'd need to add/subtract any deposits/withdraws and any faucet claims... That should at least prove one way or the other whether your account is short by the 0.002 or if in fact it was just a so-called "visual bug"... I wish I could, but their crappy site is broken AF. When clicking betting history there, the page freezes and I have to refresh it to make it work again. I have consistently asked for a copy of all my bets, which they have not shown. Now, I think they have already doctored everything so I think it won't be reliable anymore. Just to prove it, my screenshot showed 4 straight losses (which actually won), thinking it was legit at the time, I just yolobet the remaining balance. That is why you'll see some bets after that were broken numbers which were: 1. 0.00030850 which won so it was doubled 2. 0.00061700 which lost 3. 0.00000500 which was a faucet claim which also lost That shows that I did get a 0 balance. I've lost more money on other sites, far more than this. I am not here to cheat any system, I don't care if I lose just make sure it was fair. But this gambling site is a cheat. I don't care if I can't get back those few mbtc they cheated me, I care about people not going there to lose their btc to cheats! |
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this is the signed message for our agreement of a loan in the amount of .0776 BTC with 14,000 pink coin as collateral
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am jjrundy. Today is Saturday, May 20, 2017. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner
of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement.
Repayment amount: 0.0892
Repayment date: Saturday, June 3, 2017
Repayment address: 1EiGhTPx3XryRnZfVrqReDpoZNzX3Anc1r
Collateral: 14,000 PINK Coins
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KPssPk9EW8T2UJyN8JXXuWsakF5CeWVZ7
H0jcZJsg5sqbbKeAvNRAe3RaVIw+lNr/fi3yMhGbY5puURqgIr8WpWodTUQ2BF5B36Ke7Fu8cKihCzgxphGh59A=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Lending Status update:
Pending receipt of collateral.
TX: To follow after receipt of collateral
Repayment Status update:
Notes:
collateral sent txid: bb0f803fc7b2edea8927272aad5319082fe74ec63d05f69e9fa71e94e0e574b2 Waiting to get 40 confirmations before sending the amount. I think it's just quick, PINK gets about 1 confirmation a minute.  |
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this is the signed message for our agreement of a loan in the amount of .0776 BTC with 14,000 pink coin as collateral
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am jjrundy. Today is Saturday, May 20, 2017. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner
of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement.
Repayment amount: 0.0892
Repayment date: Saturday, June 3, 2017
Repayment address: 1EiGhTPx3XryRnZfVrqReDpoZNzX3Anc1r
Collateral: 14,000 PINK Coins
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KPssPk9EW8T2UJyN8JXXuWsakF5CeWVZ7
H0jcZJsg5sqbbKeAvNRAe3RaVIw+lNr/fi3yMhGbY5puURqgIr8WpWodTUQ2BF5B36Ke7Fu8cKihCzgxphGh59A=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Lending Status update:
Pending receipt of collateral.
TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/ba7b5ef40b305554e61aa7a03fcabe5c32a2df9054aa43fd081d4109553c5719
Repayment Status update:
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am k0er from BCTalk. Today is 20 may. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1koervpXCP8p5gcWMwWEjReR1MYWpc2nN
HBYNAyuop6VWmCSJCz1cWdAWxzObeLnReARygsOfdjvrdYCsGdX4fz4cGLIL8ul2rkycya95EzeyucH 9ruhcTWg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Verified using https://tools.bitcoin.com/verify-message/. Repayment amount: 0.0473BTCRepayment date: Saturday, March 25, 2017 Repayment address: 1thrEeYgPMr9c5sjHnpdJpJfjKbgwG4RzCollateral: BCT Account Lending Status update:
Loan collateral secured!
TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/a688d8b194d2826db422223702b0e0d18d12d9c1d1916fdc84765f5230118f41
Repayment Status update:
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Username: jjrundy
Loan Amount: .07755
Bitcoin Address: 14aNGFLF2SsBmieeBowms8MqMQLu2RFSZ5 (currently unable to sign)
Number of days: 14 days
Collateral offered: 14,000 PINK
Optional Service (see V.): none
i will also agree to send more collateral in the even that collateral falls below the minimum.
Note: Please sign a message with a new address you can sign with. Please keep it safe and don't lose it, I will only release collateral after payment to repayment address and a signed message from your address. Approved Loan Amount: 0.07755BTC
Principal 0.0776BTC
Base interest 0.0116BTC
Optional Service 0.0000BTC
Repayment amount 0.0892BTC
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Repayment deadline: Saturday, June 3, 2017
Collateral: 14,000 PINK
Procedure:
1. If you agree to these terms, please sign a message like this:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am jjrundy. Today is Saturday, May 20, 2017. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement.
Repayment amount: 0.0892
Repayment date: Saturday, June 3, 2017
Repayment address: 1EiGhTPx3XryRnZfVrqReDpoZNzX3Anc1r
Collateral: 14,000 PINK Coins
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1InsertYouBitcoinAddressHere12345
InsertTheSignatureCodeHere+MakeSureThisIsCorrect/FollowTheFormat=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
2. Send PINK Coins to 2HLFTRb189yUeEdaSv34srggUpsBF1DLsJ.
Please allow up to 12hours processing time, usually doesn't take that long. For more inquiries feel free to contact me via PM.
Username: k0er Loan Amount: 0.045 Bitcoin Address: 1koervpXCP8p5gcWMwWEjReR1MYWpc2nN Number of days: 5 days Collateral offered: my account Optional Service (see V.): bctalkaccountpricer.info link: https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=2nl9qssc-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am k0er from BCTalk. Today is 20 may. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1koervpXCP8p5gcWMwWEjReR1MYWpc2nN HBYNAyuop6VWmCSJCz1cWdAWxzObeLnReARygsOfdjvrdYCsGdX4fz4cGLIL8ul2rkycya95EzeyucH 9ruhcTWg= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Principal 0.0450BTC
Base interest 0.0023BTC
Optional Service 0.0000BTC
Repayment amount 0.0473BTC
============================
Repayment deadline: Thursday, May 25, 2017
Collateral: BCT Account
Procedure:
1. If you agree to these terms, please sign a message like this:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am k0er. Today is Saturday, May 20, 2017. This is to prove to Lone Shark I am the owner of this bitcoin address and I am agreeing to the loan agreement.
Repayment amount: 0.0473
Repayment date: Thursday, May 25, 2017
Repayment address: 1thrEeYgPMr9c5sjHnpdJpJfjKbgwG4Rz
Collateral: BCT Account
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1InsertYouBitcoinAddressHere12345
InsertTheSignatureCodeHere+MakeSureThisIsCorrect/FollowTheFormat=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
a. Account login details (username and password)
b. Send your alternative contact details Any of the following:
-Valid email
-Telegram
-Alt-account on bitcointalk
3. Wait for a maximum of 12hrs for processing. (Do not change your account login details)
Please allow up to 12hours processing time, usually doesn't take that long. For more inquiries feel free to contact me via PM.
Denied. Sorry, I don't take accounts lower than Senior. |
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You're actually just giving away 1mbtc, since you get about 16mbtc if all slots are filled. What the hell, let's go for it.  1 2 3 4 Which block is the determining block for this lottery? |
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Confirming I have received the repayment and a generous tip! Thank you and looking forward to doing more business with you in the future. Cheers, Lone Shark |
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Let's ignore the variable house edge element for now. I believe it's part of the issue here (and I think it's a bad idea in general), but this is a bug that goes far beyond the way that system was intended. My calculation might be off here, but I think losing a x1.02 "roll under" bet with a roll of 20.75 would require a house edge near 80%, nothing like the 0.5 to 3% intended.
ParaDice.io: The bet history that you show doesn't explain what happened to the 0.015 balance that Lone Shark says he had made after his withdrawals - it only shows 5 losses totalling about a tenth of that. With the assumption that Lone Shark is telling the truth about having that balance in the first place, the most reasonable explanation here is that the bug he showed caused him to lose the rest. I think your bet history is coded in such a way that it shows what should have happened (him winning 0.00001 with many bets), but doesn't show what actually happened at the time due to the bug (him losing 0.0005 with each of those bets.) Unless you can either prove that he never had that balance in the first place, or how he actually lost it, your site has ripped him off and you owe him compensation and an apology.
I think the bet history cannot be seen on puredice.com as well. But I can't get it. If the balance was affected then paradice should have the real amount with a little bonus. Practically why would admin try to ruin the image of his website on which he worked so hard for just 0.015 and on the other hand Loneshark, I think there must be confusion it could be a visual bug from CloudFlare like I saw on primedice and you said that you were away and you lost in the bets that were passed. Can everybody stop with the VISUAL BUG! For the nth time, how can a visual bug also deduct from my account?! This argument is getting old and repetitive. Give me something else more plausible! Don't continue on giving that crap. YOU and PARADICE have consistently said this already but we all know it's BS. I give up on you guys, really. Unless you give out concrete answers then let this scam accusation run for all I care. Everything was said already, it's all up to you guys if you want to do something about those negative trust. All I can say is that I stand by what has been stated here. |
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Why do you think we want to lie on this? We speak here about cents. The only problem is happening inside your brain who can't get that his balance wasn't affected if the picture is true.
I give up talking to you guys. It's pointless, all you do is deny and insult. Just offer the community a reasonable explanation, if you cannot then keep the red tag on you and good luck getting gamblers to play at your site. |
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I also need about $3,000 to pay for my Master's degree, but you don't see me begging or asking for loans. Work your damn ass off. Stop trying to go the easy route.
By the way the following are invalid collateral:
1. Identity (no one will give a rat's ass for who you are in the online world)
2. You account ( it's not even worth a satoshi, maybe back in 2009 it's worth thousands of bitcoins but not today)
3. Future profits ("I am expecting money by the month end.")
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How can anyone know that your picture it is not fake?
How can anyone know that your balance was affected?
Just please try to be serious.
What motive do I have to lie about this? All I want is to expose your sorry ass thieving dice site here, so no one else gets scammed. Just also to inform you, I don't have any photoshop skills to even fake that. You can always send it to photo forensic services that will confirm whether it was edited. Bottomline here, I really believed your site was legit until you cheated me. You can see it even on my post about giving honest feedback on your site, which by the way you promised to give me 20mbtc for doing. Now, off to another scam accusation since you didn't pay that out for most users who joined. |
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We already explained what happened. There are multiple accusations but all with not even a proof.
Everyone who atacked the image of ParaDice with no sense accusations will be banned from all our future give aways.
This give away will continue!
Good luck
-20 users min.
Good thing I archived your site before you edited the OP on your give away. Here it is for reference: http://archive.is/ICvZsThe original requirements were: -One giveaway per account -Feedback must have at least 100 words -At least a deposit of 0.005 is required -Minimum 0.5 btc wagered -Minimum 16 activity -The give away will end and will be credited on 15th of May Where was "20 users min." there? Now from that requirements, you just changed it so that you will pay NOBODY since you were not able to reach 20 users minimum. That's totally a scam right there. It was changed meanwhile. You are not qualified anyways. Min. 60 IQ required. Users will be credited, there are 11 till this moment. Patience. Yeah, and I posted on May 3 for the giveaway. Good job changing it, numbnuts. |
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We already explained what happened. There are multiple accusations but all with not even a proof.
Everyone who atacked the image of ParaDice with no sense accusations will be banned from all our future give aways.
This give away will continue!
Good luck
-20 users min.
Good thing I archived your site before you edited the OP on your give away. Here it is for reference: http://archive.is/ICvZsThe original requirements were: -One giveaway per account -Feedback must have at least 100 words -At least a deposit of 0.005 is required -Minimum 0.5 btc wagered -Minimum 16 activity -The give away will end and will be credited on 15th of May Where was "20 users min." there? Now from that requirements, you just changed it so that you will pay NOBODY since you were not able to reach 20 users minimum. That's totally a scam right there. |
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Paradice seem to be scammer and after a proper explanation by Lone Shark they are now giving baseless reasons to hide their scam/bug.
The only problem we are having an idiot user called Lone Shark. It can be easily seen here the bets he is talking about: https://gyazo.com/7482c42074b0716a4cf42ca0947f8e67Another problem is the we were too king and gave him 0.002. We learned from these mistakes and next time we will just close the accounts of users who make this kind of false accusations with no future comments. Yeah, very professional from you guys. You always call that 0.002 BTC as "bonus" of your kind generosity! But in fact, it is something you OWE me. Since your site had a bug that made me lose 4 straight bets at 0.0005 BTC each bet. That means you OWE me 0.002 BTC and the supposed win amount. Which you did not credit by the way. I can't stress enough how irrational and unprofessional you guys are. No way your site is going to get anywhere. About your proof, it's practically stupid to just show that as I have shown proof to you about the event and you dare not explain but just deny it. You do not even offer a concrete evidence of this. All you say is that "it's a visual bug from cloud flare". I should open another scam accusation on you because now, you did not pay me your promised giveaway. More red coming your way. Good luck. |
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Lone Shark will never receive a give away from us, read the message from give away thread. We responded properly to the scam acussation. Nothing happened to your balance, just a visual bug. Stop being an idiot. About all the other users will be credited when the minimum of users will be reached. We are almost out of Alpha, take a look at Paradice  Yey. More scams from this site. You promised to give out that giveaway, now you retract it because I found a bug. Which, again, is not visual! You know yourselves it was not visual as it ate up my balance! Now to open more scam accusations against you, because you did not pay a giveaway. Also, great to have a very professional team you have here. Two thumbs down to your awesome site.  |
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Username: loneshark
So how do we actually win this?
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We recognised from the very first beginning that we had some problems with withdraws, every problem was solved and now we can be proud having 0 fees on withdraws.
Also most of our bugs are solved.
In the next days we will finish our last futures and we will start BETA version.
Thank you all!
Good luck
Whether its Alpha or Beta, these types of sites shouldn't exist if its gambling related and especially since people are betting with real money and not monopoly money. I know that you want to launch ASAP so you can capture more and more marketshare as Bitcoin grows in value. However when a site such as yours with the huge bugs its gotten, is actually hurting yourself in the long run. My advice, you should send everybody a bonus who experienced issues with your site and hope they can still remain loyal to your site and not leave. I think what you said is true. The owner should take website down for a few days or weeks untill the bugs are resolved and should do a bug bounty for future. The issue with this situation is as follows. Consider these 2 examples 1) Site is buggy. Gambler ends up losing a large BTC due to some bug. Casino says "Ok sorry we will fix bugs" and doesn't send the BTC back that was lost. 2) Site is buggy. Casinos ends up losing a large BTC due to some bug. Most likely due to this bug, the casino would probably not let the withdraw go thru. So basically its one-sided. Hence whether a bug is in favor of the gambler or casino, the bugs needs to be fixed first since money is involved in these situations and it can get ugly. This is what I was telling them and they don't even care. All they say is we'll investigate and we're fixing the bug. Your issue has been replied by our dev. :: Bugs have been fixed and now we are paying for finding bugs on the bugs depending on what type it is upto 0.2 BTC Thanks, Casimir Bugs are not problem, every site has bugs. I encountered small visual glitches, and severe game breaking bugs in the past. It's ok, just be transparent about it. The problem is that when bug is causing users to loss bets or is a reason behind performance of the site. In that case the only viable solution is to refund player his original bankroll. It is the only fair option - acknowledging bugs while still taking money from players is unacceptable. That's the fact they don't want to accept. I've had a scam accusation open for quite some time and they only responded with denials and some other ways that just really avoids the questions. They try to deviate and just aways says non-sense. You guys can always follow the negative feedback on them about their scam accusation and see for youselves. Well there are big bugs and small bugs. Even a large site like Primedice still has minor bugs here and there. But this site has way too many big bugs that is causing people to lose BTC and they got red trust as a result of it. Nothing wrong with bugs, but if someone loses money because of it, then you should compensate them. Which they have not done! From my scam accusation, I showed clear evidence of what happened and they gave me the amount equivalent to what they say I lost only because of a visual bug. Which is not, the site actually ate up my balance. They called the amount a "bonus" because it encountered that bug. They cannot admit it was a big ass bug that stole btc from people. And what they sent me was not a "bonus" but compensation for what I lost! But that is not enough! How do I even know that every roll was legit after I started? I think what happened was that when they saw people were winning, they adjusted their site's settings and did something to cheat the bettors there. Now, they're gone. They don't even care to properly answer the scam accusation. They also owe me and other users 20mbtc for their giveaway. |
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I would be glad to talk and speak with you! I am quite familiar with the lending business and have been in this section for a long time, but never had significant capital to invest. I would love to be a manager/partner for you. Do you have a Skype so we can talk?
I'll PM you my info see if we can work something out. Cool, and thanks! Together we can hopefully compete with the big lenders like Lone shark and Darkstar I am flattered, never knew I was a big lender. I would say that the biggest lenders here are zazarb and frilledshark. Can't really compare what I give out to theirs. I would say that there are a lot of supply of lenders and not really a lot of borrowers. Just be careful with scammers, it's pretty hard to identify those that just want to get the loan and default. I would say to stay away from accepting accounts as collateral. I am about to move away too from accepting them as they are actually useless when the borrower defaults. I have never sold a defaulted account ever. I just hid them away from sight and never did anything with them. Solid collateral are altcoins, good domains, maybe physical goods, etc., do your research. This is a bad example of how to be a lender -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851570.0;all |
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I am no expert here and don't understand crap of what you said. I would just like to advise you to post what you are offering as payment if people are interested in your offer. Being straight forward would really increase your likelihood of getting help and it would be faster with fewer questions.
Also, you might want to consider how much bitcoins are in your wallet as compared to how much you will be willing to pay someone to retrieve your wallet.
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