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2561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What’s New with KuCoin Platform 2.0? on: February 25, 2019, 10:11:50 AM
I've read some article about the kucoin upgrade and what i really like about the development are the user experience they offer like simple in customer verification, interface and sub-accounts handling. I guess this will be the opportunity for kucoin to perform better compare to other top exchanges like Bibox and Hitbtc.
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2563  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: people die, bitcoin's immortality on: December 30, 2018, 04:11:23 AM
I think that bitcoin and crypto coins are very important structures. But the immortal approach was a bit too ambitious.

Wow..what a statement! Bravo...we all now that technology always out live the peope who help to developed it and all the followers. The difference of Bitcoin and human kind is quite obvious..no need to explain..stay healthy and enjoy your profits from Bitcoin instead of thinking to much about it.
2564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: “Blockchain and cryptos are here to stay”, insist business advisory firm as it b on: December 30, 2018, 04:01:10 AM
A lot of these investment firms are coming around to realize that Bitcoin might be another profitable investment tool for their clients and they are preparing for the future. Some of them are a bit late to the party, but they still have some time to catch up.

Once the SEC made up their mind over the Bitcoin ETF, we might see some more investment firms, doing the same. People can still make a lot of money on Crypto currencies, if they do some proper research and if they understand the underlying technology.  Wink


The crypto currency digital market transaction is still in the infancy stage. No one really knows on the period of crypto in the market. But based on market performance i would say, we may not see the future say year 2050 but crypto will be active and bouncing come such year.  The volume of crypto transaction is gaining momentum globally.  It is just that the high market volatility affects the present market status. But we all now that, market recover after the glitz. Good luck guys.
2565  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All bankers hate BTC, am I right? on: December 29, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
I don't think not all bank hate Bitcoin, in fact that there are many banks around the world defend and have corporations with crypto currency industry. There are many banks that are not ready to adopt crypto currency in massive. Then, peole think that this is like rejection of bitcoin.


Maybe some but not all... The entry of crypto currency into the market world create a lot of uneasyness, some fearful about on what to become of the Banking Industry once crypto currency digital transaction is globally accepted? Some are not open for crypto tansaction, we've already seen or read that some are against crypto. With this apprehension create a lot of issues confronting Bitcoin today. Yet. Some banking institution are opening and embrasing the usage of Bitcoin. In due time once all the concerns are resolved are address globally, then we can see the fears will die down...lets wait, Bitcoin is our future crypto coin in the making.
2566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do people mean when they say bitcoin is in 1994? on: December 29, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
As I understand, in 1994 the Internet was still at its infancy. People didn't really know what it was yet, they didn't know what it could be. Does that mean right now we don't know what bitcoin will be used for in the coming years? Do we not know the "killer app"?

Exactly! This is what people mean when they say that bitcoin is in 1994. They idiomatically mean that bitcoin as a technology is still young and has a lot in store still. A lot needs to develop in it; reason why people hasn't realized its full potential yet, mainly the reason why it's still undervalued nowadays. But once the doubts and uncertainty about it are settled, that's when the time it will fully mature and boom. There's no telling how far this market correction will go, but believe me, this "bitcoin-is-in-1994" season that the people are yelling is the best time to educate ourselves on how it all works.


Yes, we are all just getting alone with the Crypto Currency Digital Transaction as getting the attention globally, yes, the crypto currency market still in the infancy stage, not all are prevy on its usabilty. The only common notion we can have are, people either have a huge loses or huge gain on their profits, during the spike of Bitcoin price on last quarter of 2017, everyone got their attention, buying coins is on the spike...yet, the decline have brought prostration, some even got so depressed. The reason almost all of the buyers or investors have not learn the basic of invest.the risk after such investment, how to handle the profits? One should learn the history, learn the process, a lot more are coming before we can say that crypto is accepted by global public.
2567  Economy / Economics / Re: The markets are rigged on: December 27, 2018, 01:55:53 PM
If you've read any stock market literature then you've likely heard of "The Random Walk" and similar texts.

Basically the idea is that the markets are chaotic. You know the old story of how air moved by a butterfly in Tokyo become a thunderstorm in Los Angeles?


Chaotic and random are very different things. Randomness means that a result can not be predicted with certainty, chaotic means that the result is very hard to predict because of very complex relations.

Markets are obviously not random because humans are not random. But they exhibit chaotic behavior, especially on small scale, because there's a big number of people involved and it's impossible to predict their decisions at one given moment.

But in the long run markets are driven by fundamental factors, like in your example the American economy growth throughout the decades, so naturally the DJIA is growing too. Bitcoin is a new and successful technology, so it grew a lot since its inception. No need to seek some conspiracies to explain their price.


 We can take your above post as it is. Often time we been seing a lot of speculation about the market which manipulated by Whales or insider transaction could bring one prime stock to the grown..but we have no factual based on the said speculation. More often than that is just negative views against the market. If the US stock market goes down it can be because of the war trade with china.
2568  Economy / Economics / Re: Will BTC defeated in 2019? on: December 27, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
Crypto currency seems to cold down these days and many people have lost faith in the past few months...

People find most token are fake indeed, what they have was just a whitepaper.

I think most of them will die in the next year.

But what about Bitcoin?

As the first and the most influential one, Bitcoin is still weak with numerous restrictions.

Maybe it will fall into the ground due to the political factors, or beaten by other token which is better.

 Huh


If your basis for that is the "crash" That transpired this year, then you still have to look closer dude. I'm not a fan of historical comparisons but if you look at the larger picture, bitcoin should've been gone by now if it were that weak. Many people are backing btc and that backbone is sturdy enough to ensure it future. And most associate blockchain with btc and we all are aware of it's use even now.

 The above statement is full of negative vives. One should learn the in's and out of the crypto currency. Market is highly Volatile, price value goes up and down because of massive sell off. But it wont be defeated by other coin as posted in the trading market. Look at the value of other coins it is far more away from Bitcoin than ALT Coin or other crypto coins.Bitcoin survived the beating on the market and it will remains until the crypto currency market is globally accepted globally.
2569  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price predictions from Twitter 5 years from now on: December 27, 2018, 01:14:11 PM
There's a lot of price predictions on Twitter, some more serious, some less, and some hillarious.


We could put together a list of predictions from people who are somehow important players in the crypto space.

Bobby Lee has a cool point (let's hope;):



If history repeats perfectly, then the current bear market for #Bitcoin would bottom out at $2,500 next month, in Jan 2019.
And then the next rally would start in late 2020, peak out in Dec 2021 at $333,000, and then crash back down to $41,000 in Jan 2023.
Something like that?🙂

https://twitter.com/bobbyclee/status/1071100283638280194


Lee has made many predictions in the past but only few of them have come out correct. I am not sure how he thinks that bottom would be 2500 next month and then it would stay there till 2020? it's hard to understand how he formed that conclusion when market rarely stays at its bottomed out price for years. People had made predictions in the past about bitcoin price but most of them have been flat out wrong but I imagine it's a good publicity strategy that help you gain more followers. History does repeat itself but not exactly and there is no timeframe for when and how exactly it would be repeated.


As it was posted "Prediction" will always be a prediction. That's good for an investors who would invest for long term with out fear from any possible loses along the way towsrds 5 years. The market is crazy, it is unpredictable, very volatile. Bitcoin facing a lot of issues Scammers, Hacking, FUD, and the Regulation by government whom against the entry of crypto market into the main stream. But i am optimistic once all of this issues are resolved the more favorable crypto market trading will be seen in the future.
2570  Economy / Economics / Re: Nasdaq in Bear Market With 20% Drop, Dow Jones Worst Week Since 2008 on: December 26, 2018, 02:13:45 PM
It shows clearly that there is no correlation between nasdaq and crypto markets. Nasdaq has been on the fall for a while and many people lost thousand even millions of dollars and noone is really looking to switch to crypto. I mean I assume that way because there is not a sudden surge of volume in crypto unfortunately.

I assume it is because crypto had a 2018 type of year and people do not think that is a way out as well, I mean if we were in 2017 and the prices were going up while the nasdaq was falling I am sure we would have seen a great volume increase from people coming in but because of 2018 bear market we had I don't think they are going to jeopardize their investments and get into something even more dangerous than stocks. This basically puts an end to the question "what would happen if the other markets fall".


YES, stock market is showing signs of trouble as we approach towards the end of 2018. Its been a while that some experts Speculate on this base on their technical analysis. The good news is Crypto is not dping the same market performance as posted on the thread.
2571  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we headed for a recession? on: December 26, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
I definitely think the Stock markets are long overdue for a correction and all the bad political decisions like Brexit and also the trade wars are not helping the situation. I personally think 2019 are going to be a bad year for all Stock exchanges and investors are going to shift their investments to safe havens soon.

Bitcoin will also be negatively impacted by the global economic situation and we might see a lower price than $3000, if the Bitcoin ETF is not approved by the SEC.  Angry
Stock market is soon to crash again, and that is why many investors are selling their stocks on the last quarter of 2018. Our local market is not doing good also, but of course if you are long term investor your money will still be good if its placed in a great companies. Bitcoin is affected by everything, and even a small issues can be a big problem in cryptomarket. Hopefully this long overdue ETF will finally approved by SEC, so the market will pump high again.
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 Stock Market is having some problem as it shows down turn on the market. I don't agree that we are on the way to recession.. and yes, crypto market is not following the same trend. The recent up and down on crypto price as posted was due to some issues confronting the crypto, once it resolved we can see a more favorable market trend in the coming 2019.
2572  Economy / Economics / Re: the future of crypto is good or bad on: December 22, 2018, 05:44:57 AM
I want to invest my savings into cryptocurrency. So I think about the future of cryptocurrency. what do you think? Do you think the future or cryptocurrency is good? Or do you think the future or cryptocurrency is bad?
Please help me, because I will invest all my savings. So if I make a bad decision, my family and I will be on the road to improve my economy.

Please do wait for a little while if where is the market going before you try to put all of your money here because it might still go down some more.

Wow...puting all your saving into crypto and if something goes bad you and your family will suffered the bad decision you've made.. One, it is not good or bad crypto.? But  all of your saving for one crypto coin? You maybe crazy having such plans. INVEST ONLY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE WITH OUT COMPROMIZING THE FUTURE OF YOUR FAMILY...
2573  Economy / Economics / Re: Bulls are Retarded on: December 22, 2018, 05:34:20 AM
As the title says, I firmly believe that Bitcoin bulls have something wrong with them. Now, I don't actually mean the insult. What I mean is that people who are hoping the price shoots up to $100,000 are morons.

They have no regard for the market cap

People who say that it'll shoot up to $100,000 have no concept of market caps and size. They seem to think that since a bubble happened two times, it will happen again.

You should be able to differentiate between a $1,000,000 marketcap and $1 trillion market cap. Most Bitcoiners are unable to do so. They believe in it rising to infinity and beyond because of previous movements.

That's not how the market works, dummies!

They're not concerned about actual usability

The last time Bitcoin shot up in price, any transaction cost $50 to do. A big speaking point for Bitcoin used to be that you could do small transactions for virtually no cost. This all changed once it shot up.

The ethos suddenly changed to being that Bitcoin should only be for large payments only. $1-2 payments shouldn't have any consideration.

When there are $50 fees, there will be less incentive to move money around, slowing down the Bitcoin economy. If there's no circulation and flow, how can Bitcoin be considered a currency? That leads me onto my next point...

Bitcoin is something speculators use to bet against other speculators

A high price is attractive for those in the game only. It doesn't help expand worldwide coverage. It's a turnoff, actually.

Who are the ones profiting from Bitcoin? It's the speculators.

When I look at Bitcoin from a practical point of view, I don't see $1 trillion worth of goods and services being passed through it. Russia and Australia have an economy of $1 trillion. Their total population can collectively only produce $1 trillion in value. What can Bitcoin do? Not even 1/50th of that.

If you have any "rebuttals", fire away.

I believe that we will see another bull market when LN is fully functioning.


 Very good point, it tells a lot. Yes, i agree with you that,  there are people whom had the burning desires to see the Bitcoin price goes up beyond which was on the market as posted. They have a very limited knowledge to understand what is the Crypto Currency Market.  We can read some of their coments gave only interest on the price value of Bitcoin. Anyway..goodluck guys.
2574  Economy / Economics / Re: Useful investor rule!!! on: December 21, 2018, 03:46:52 PM
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    Julien, thank you for sharing this with us and to some of us that has been long in trading this is a great remainder and for me in particular I am not taking this advice and rules for granted.  Trading is a game and we should not even go into trading without developing our understanding on the above rules.  I have given advice to many traders especially the newbies on how to trade and i always told  them that they Should look for rules they can follow.     

Thanks for the comment. By the way, in the original topic, one of the users shared the idea of a bank deposit. I forgot to say this. The idea is that if someone promises a fixed yield significantly higher than a bank deposit, then he does not need to collect depositors' money. If you are a miracle trader, then take a bank loan and trade. But fraudsters do not want to take loans from a bank.


Investment is risky...all form of invedtment jave the same degree of risk. It is dependent on the amount you put up for investment. My additional guideline or rule which is the basic principled applied. Invest only what you can afford.Small investment small possible losses, and it goes just the same with higher investment with high possible losses. Investment is to gain profits but if you place your investment to a wrong coin or project contrary to high value profits then you migth have a problem.Invest only the amount that is not committed to anything.good luck
2575  Economy / Economics / Re: welcome bulls , Bye bears on: December 21, 2018, 03:18:07 PM
I think that those who manage the market have a well-thought-out plan of action regarding the BTC price movement. We are members of this community will continue to guess about the price change and wait, wait, wait. Wink


 Nice of you to hold on to your investment. One who knows the market often time have a rewards profits, even with ups and down still they keep their investment. With the recent activity on the market as posted, it shows high hope that the bearish market is about to end. Market correction had already come. Lets wait further and monitor if this level will be sustained.good luck.
2576  Economy / Economics / Re: Very stable BTC dominance on: December 21, 2018, 03:11:01 PM
The so called "bitcoin dominance" doesn't matter at all to me.If the bitcoin price crashes to around 1000 USD

I agree



The altcoins do not have a great use in real life, if the altcoins had practical use in real life then the dominance of bitcoin would be much smaller and the falls of prices of bitcoin would not affect much the altcoins, but the reality is that the altcoins are focused on solving the problems of the internet, nothing against this, but there are already over 2000 altcoins and more than 80% of these altcoins have the same purpose




 Yes, Bitcoin remains on top of all the coins as postdd on the crypto market, it survived with all the attack on its market stability on the market. The down turn on the recent market activity last week seems ended. Yet, the market still volatile and unpredictable. Expert says.. they are still awaiting for the Capitulation on the market? On the other hand crypto market shows positive indicators now testing the 4k level on the market. Once Bitcoin sustained this level i believe the rally on upward trend will follow. Good luck
2577  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto debit card for FIAT payments - would you use one? on: December 19, 2018, 02:59:58 AM
It makes no sense to me to use a crypto related debit card to spend fiat the same way I can spend fiat already with my legacy debit card. I rather convert the coins to fiat myself and then spend them whenever I want.
Yup, I've been saying the same thing ever since I discovered bitcoin, which I've always viewed as an investment and not a currency (even though I've used it to buy things from merchants when I'm out of fiat). 

On the old JREF forum, they used to say that bitcoin is a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist.  I don't view it in such an extreme way, but the fact is that businesses don't want bitcoin, they want fiat.  When you buy something with bitcoin using a payment processor, they're just converting the bitcoin to fiat--and that's what the merchant gets.

I get my paycheck in fiat and tend to always have more fiat than I do crypto, so I would have no use for a crypto debit card, nor would I want to go through a KYC process with a company that I didn't trust.  I already let my bank do that, and that's bad enough.

 That's good project but it is not yet available globally. Often time people hold on to their token or price coin instead of using it for simple transaction. Availability of your supposed project would be a main problem for all crypto holder. Good luck on your project.
2578  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens to Crypto when normal stockmarket collapses?? on: December 19, 2018, 02:54:03 AM
crypto currencies love unstable air. so when the normal stock market goes down, the crypto money goes up.
We cant still be sure if those investors would decide to jump on Cryptocurrencies if they would able to suffer such decline on stock market.Maybe there would be stocktraders would make such decision but not fully switch into things that they don't even have any idea on what it is. Knowing stock traders or investors would most likely not to engage into non-regulated things.


 My opinion on the above topic is Crypto Currency is very different structure compared to the stock market with solid investment, it won be affdcted by the crash instead it would benifit from the possible crash. Invedtors often shift their investment to save or protect from a huge losses in the market.
2579  Economy / Economics / Re: welcome bulls , Bye bears on: December 19, 2018, 02:48:32 AM
I think that those who manage the market have a well-thought-out plan of action regarding the BTC price movement. We are members of this community will continue to guess about the price change and wait, wait, wait. Wink


 With the current situation of crypto market as posted on the thread. Everyone is hoping against hope that the market correct would triger the more stable market status before it goes up again. With high Market Volatility everyone is still holding on the last transaction on 2018. But as we can notice, the market trend seems to be on the upward trend yet it is not yet that stable as it is. once the market of Bitcoin breaks the 4k level i think it will go up as to put down the Bearish market into the dashbin. I am more positive that if the capitulation on the market didn't happen we can either wait or just go ahead of our daily monitoring then make a decision to protect our investment vs.profits.
2580  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do in 2030? on: December 19, 2018, 02:31:37 AM
IF i say now then it will be unrealistic and in 2030 i have so many plans to do at that time and for now i want to make money because in future for businesses i will need more money for establishing of new businesses and i can buy an established businesses as well.
of course I will do it too, build a business, where maybe 2030 I have run a business as a result of diversifying cryptocurrency, and of course I still hold bitcoin as an investment


 WOW.. What a speculation toward the future...2030?  Yes, i would agree with to have a second source of income for our future. yes we are on our own by ourself. But, one thing should we have to take into consideration.. Our Health... Can we be sure that our investment for our future would be for for us??? A long term investment should be taken more seriously. Nobody knows about our life if we did not take care of it. some people only take on day to today bases... thats a good plan though.good luck guys.
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