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1641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: October 14, 2022, 07:51:04 PM
First you must give credit to boyhood Manchester United fan and Nigerian International Francis Uzoho he help them alot in that game by making lots of save for Omonia.
It should be so, and it is very fitting that we give the best player to Francis Uzoho in that match.
The Omonia goalkeeper recorded at least ten brilliant saves
If I'm not mistaken, the goalkeeper's age is still 23 and it is quite possible in the upcoming transfer market to be the center of attention for top clubs.

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Good Tominay sent that one home, the fans where pleased, we controlled the game, defended well but the attack didn't convert those chances and goals.
Erik Ten Hag read the game well did the right changes but also should have substituted Marcus Rashford all because he wasn't part of the game.
The entry of Christian Eriksen, Jadon Sancho, Scott Mctominay and Luke Shaw made Manchester United's game even more attacking, although they were unable to score in 90 minutes of normal time, the attack that Manchester United players tried to build several times almost scored.
Luckily in the 93rd minute Scott Mctominay managed to create one goal, so Manchester United got full points in the match.
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1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: October 13, 2022, 09:12:47 PM
You can't help but feel bad for Omonia at the end of the day, they were very resilient all through the game, but they got broken by a Scott McTominay's goal at the very end of the game, that put Man United on the best route to making it to the knockout stages.
The rotation of some players carried out by erik ten haq did not go well, Bruno Fernandes, Marcus Rashford and Cristian Ronaldo were too selfish, the ball that should be given bait but was forced to shot at the goal.
Manchester United got eleven shots on target and 72% of ball ownership, many opportunities were obtained by Marcus Rashford, but the final settlement was still very bad.
Francis Uzoho Deserves The Best Player in This Match, Many Saves Made by Goalkeepers, Althouugh in the 93rd Minute Scott McTominay Managed to Make a Goal for Manchester United's Victory.
1644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 13 years ago... on: October 13, 2022, 04:32:34 PM
I found the below image online, this was exactly 13 years ago when the price of bitcoin was still as good as zero, it is seen on the table that exactly today, being the 6th of October, 2009(13 years ago), with $1, one could purchase BTC1,130.53.
This means that the price of one bitcoin at that time was not more expensive than Pizza, I also remember someone named James Howells, where that person lost a hard drive containing 7,500 bitcoins because he accidentally threw it away.
Until now I don't know exactly whether the hard drive has been found, almost all the media I'm looking for there is no sign of the hard drive being found, it's really bad luck for James Howells after knowing bitcoin is increasing being hunted and has a fantastic selling value.

I then tried to calculate what BTC1,130.53 is worth today according to Bitcoin's current market price, and I am indeed overwhelmed.
Makes me kind of asking myself where I was and what was I doing at this time 13 years ago  Huh Huh

How does this make you feel?
An ordinary calculator will not be able to calculate the number of bitcoins owned by the man I mentioned above, let alone the bitcoin holdings of large companies that started to buy them.
13 years ago, bitcoin was not cheaper than pizza, but now that assumption is debunked, as bitcoin finds its way into an investment or as a promising asset.
If anyone were to ask how bitcoin will be in the next ten years, then the answer would be to go to the moon, based on rhythm, trust and a very probable overview.
1645  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation is a creeping beast on: October 10, 2022, 10:04:49 AM
My non-economist brain tells me that all is well when wage inflation at least matches price inflation but that situations like those in Venezuela or even Weimar Germany, i.e., hyperinflation.
When inflation is running and the minimum wage is balanced with prices, the impact of inflation will not be too severe, but the problem is when inflation starts to occur, staple foods are more susceptible to rising uncontrollably, this is where the real problem lies, because the burden will not be balanced with the minimum wage received.
In other words, the community's economy will deteriorate and the fulfillment of basic rights cannot be guaranteed during this period.
If the sector is the focal point, then it is best to stock up on as many basic necessities as possible, during periods of current inflation and when price pressures return to normal as usual.

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I'd also say that the inflation rate of the 1970s was pretty bad, and that wasn't even close to hyperinflation.  I can't remember how high it was, but people still remember it to this day--and now when I go shopping for food, it seems like prices of certain items keeps going up week by week, so I have to wonder if we're going to see the inflation rate get as high as it was 40+ years ago.  It definitely seems that way.
I try to remember the Inflation of 1970, the digital footprint that remains is quite astonishing for us to reread, at least in 1960 to 1997, Inflation was so severe and widespread throughout the world, that many countries were on the verge of bankruptcy.
However, many countries have been able to get out of the inflation problem by using certain targeted problem-solving methods.
Everyone does not expect inflation to occur again in a more severe stage, because this will affect the stability of the country and the people's economy will deteriorate.
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 09, 2022, 07:08:17 PM
once again cristiano ronaldo will be sitting on the bench, I really don't understand why he doesn't play regularly, what's on the manchester united coach's mind?
Erik Ten Hak still didn't give Ronaldo a chance to play faster, but because Anthony Martial was injured again in the 29th minute, Cristian Ronaldo was the right option to replace Martial.
The temporary score is 1-2 for Manchester United's victory. Ronaldo again listed his name on the scoreboard before the first half was over, Casimero's breakthrough bait could really be used by Ronaldo, so he managed to create the long-awaited goal, Ronaldo finally answered Erik Ten Hak's doubts.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 08, 2022, 03:05:16 PM
One assist and one goal for Phil Foden, the players Manchester City have this season are really complete, they have players who can do well in their respective positions, the quality of the players they have is almost equal to all of them.
If all of Manchester City's games can be played like this, then it is very likely that they are difficult to beat.

Kevin De Bruyne played quite well in the middle of the field, a measured pass was always given to the striker. Erling Halaand has not been able to score goals like against Manchester United and according to my observations in the first half Phil Foden played very impressively, so far more dominant and better than Halaand
1648  Economy / Economics / Re: The whole tipping culture in western countries is unfair and totally wrong! on: October 07, 2022, 06:52:34 PM
I'd like to point out that those restaurant guys wouldn't know if you're going to tip them or not until after you've eaten your food (unless you're referring to repeat customers known to be non-tippers). 
And I don't really believe in tipping culture because the minimum wage they receive doesn't match the work they do.
The most likely assumption, that tipping is a person's culture after seeing the maximum service provided by workers, so people think that they deserve a tip. Although many people judge the culture is not too good to be applied.

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Speaking of the restaurant industry, those servers don't even make minimum wage IIRC and depend on tips to make up for the difference.  I'm not sure how that system came about, but it's a pretty messed up one if you ask me.  Taxi drivers I'm not certain about, and honestly I'm not a big fan of tipping anyone.  You pay for a service, that's the way it should be.  Giving money voluntarily (but being expected to) in addition to that rubs me the wrong way and always has
I remember the taxi driver I used to ride with, the driver in question really gave a pretty good service, I unconsciously tipped the taxi driver so sincerely. This analogy actually depends on customer service needs, and when someone decides to give a tip, it is a sign that the level of satisfaction with the service provided is maximized.
1649  Economy / Services / Re: Neodice.com 🌌 Avatar & Signature Campaign | Up to 0.0025 BTC/W on: October 07, 2022, 03:51:47 AM
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1650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we Teach About Crypto in Universities and Also Colleges? on: October 06, 2022, 04:07:32 PM
Do you think it is good to teach kids in school about crypto and blockchain?
For me this is not so important, if the category of children you mean is still under 15 years old, ideally children at that age should learn to find their identity and learn the principles of life through the available curriculum.

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Or should we see education about crypto and blockchain in higher education?
At school there is no curriculum on Crypto or Blockchain subjects, this can be said to be impossible to apply in the learning process, except to include special material after the subjects in the curriculum end, in extracurricular or outdoor lessons at certain times.

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I think it would bring great change in next generations, as maybe people of today are not yet mature enough to accept idea of decentralization.
The big changes you mean are also not taught in schools and colleges, but are learned according to their respective expertise. For example, for those of us who are in this forum, do we get crypto and Blockchain education in formal education?
the answer is definitely no, because actually we know forums in various ways, opportunities and not all of them are equal, decentralization awareness grows by itself, when one understands the concept of cryptocurrency and blockchain it works and has a good impact on one's life.

I think it would be so cool to learn about Blockchain in our universities. So that it will give us mass adoption of Cryptocurrency in near future.
If this curriculum is available in universities, it may be true that the growth of mass adoption of Cryptocurrency will run very fast, and at the age of an adult, universities are a place to get to know other sciences outside the available curriculum.
That's why education at the University is not limited to existing subjects, if these factors have been met, then this step is more likely to be done than junior high school.
1651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Spain’s Largest Telecom Company Telefónica Now Accepts Bitcoin, Crypto Payments on: September 30, 2022, 07:05:14 PM
They proclaim bitcoin to be dead, but all I see is their ego dying.
Not only those who have said bitcoin died on its way until now, almost many people and companies doubted the journey of Bitcoin, but in fact all these assumptions were wrong and turned to accept as payment.
This phenomenon occurs not without reason, but when companies begin to see opportunities for the use of bitcoin in accepting payments, that is where bitcoin will be considered as something quite important in its application.

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Today it is Spain, tomorrow it will be Portugal, and then Egypt, and then Morroco, and then Finland, and soon enough it will be adopted in masses all over the world.
Some companies that have accepted payments use Bitcoin.

  • Amazon
  • Starbucks
  • Apple
  • Overstock
  • Namecheap
  • Microsoft
  • Paypal

If some of the large companies that I mentioned above have accepted bitcoin, it is impossible for other companies not to adopt it, especially if the use of bitcoin can facilitate transaction access and data transparency for certain needs for companies.
Public awareness and companies are increasing objective about bitcoin, so the scope of bitcoin can make it easier for them to be more advanced in their use. Even no one can resist technological advances, but the need for the use of bitcoin will be increasing widespread throughout the world.
1652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 29, 2022, 06:09:48 PM
I don't know, this will be a blunder by Juventus or not. But I remember how when Sheva from Chelsea returned to AC Milan, Kaka from Madrid to AC Milan, both of them could not perform as before moving. If this also happens to Pogba, it means it might not be good to bring back players who have left  
So far Juventus are not in good condition, they have lost a lot of points in the matches they have played. Lastly they lost to Monza, where if you calculate the strength of the players owned by Juventus it is clear they are more superior, but unfortunately Juventus lost their vision in playing, so they again lost three points in the match.

However, Pogba promised to perform well with Juventus.
Many people think that Juventus' condition is getting worse because Pogba and their new signings have not played well and have not contributed anything to the club, even though Pogba himself is still injured and has not found his best level of play since moving from Manchester United

Massimiliano Allegri is increasing difficult to develop Juventus' game, because at the moment they are experiencing a storm of injuries to several players, so the option to rotate players does not match the main strengths they have.
Juventus did not get so good results in the previous few matches, so the points achieved have not been able to raise the ranking in the standings.
The latest news, Massimiliano Allegri is threatened with being fired, if Juventus' performance does not improve in the next match.

The 2-0 loss to Monza made the ultras sick and thought Bonucci could not take the lead
and it looks like you are wrong to mention the defeat received by Juventus, because the real result Monza won 1-0 against Juventus.

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1. Leadership Crisis
2. Federico Chiesa as the backbone of Juventus.
3. Allegri Strategy
The three points you mentioned seem to be the deciding factor for Juventus playing badly, but actually I'm more focused on the storm of injuries and the coach's strategy that hasn't fully worked out in line with the team's needs.
Because if you pay attention, this season Juventus is not much different from the previous season.
1653  Economy / Economics / Re: Age as a factor depreciating some people of their dreams on: September 28, 2022, 06:41:45 PM
Age has being a factor depreciating some people in vitualising their dreams. They keep saying "I'm too old to go school", I'm too old to start a new career", I'm too old to start a business". This make them remain stagnant throughout their life time. Age does define success as success comes in all forms. An adage says "when there is life, there is hope". That means success can still be actualized at any age so far ones is still healthy. Let's consider the list of 5 successful people who found success and achieve their dreams at above 60s:
Psychologically, people who have aged have memory and ways of thinking that are getting slower, this is clearly driven by age. Several studies that I read, it turns out that people who are elderly have limitations in thinking, acting and doing things so quickly.
So that at this time elderly people are considered no longer potential in career development and achieving success.

From the few people you mentioned, it doesn't represent 50% of the elderly people on earth who can achieve success.
If you calculate the success rate of elderly people around the world, there is no correlation between old age and total success.
This is in line with the vision and mission of large companies, that retirement is determined at an age that is no longer productive at work, but most people are no longer productive when they are in the elderly category.


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1. Frank McCourt
2. Harry Bernstein
3. Anna Mary
4. Laura Ingalls
5. Wally Blume
Only a few percentages of the examples you give, but if you calculate the whole world for elderly people, then the examples are not very precise and accurate in my opinion

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Don't let age be an obstacle in achieving your dream. It's not to late. Neglect your age and let passion move you towards achieving your desired dreams.
Thus, old age can be said to be unproductive in career development and achievement of the value of success.
The successful cases you mention don't represent 50% of parents in my opinion.
And it can be concluded that the five examples you mention, have a good fate line, and the process they go through is a perfect timing and hand line.
1654  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed on: September 28, 2022, 05:29:01 PM
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1655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto- If he ever made himself known what would make you believe it? on: September 26, 2022, 04:51:15 PM
So many folks have tried to claim they are him. Not that I really think that he will ever make his identity known to the world, but if he does say on his deathbed or something, how would Satoshi go about doing so? IF he did want people to know who he was whenever he became ready to do it, how would he do it in a way that everyone could believe him?
Anyone can claim the creator of bitcoin, but no one can prove Satoshi's Identity. Even I don't think his parents knew Satoshi as closely as we think today, the great work created by him is more important than his identity, so bitcoin is the most sought after by people and doesn't really care how people think about it

From what I have observed, any person who has come forward and declared themselves Satoshi has not had sufficient proof that they are. So, if we were to discuss this, what would suffice as sufficient proof that they are in fact the real Satoshi?
And also want to reverse your question, to what extent can one believe that it is Satoshi out of many who have made confessions, if he really wants to reveal his identity can anyone believe it and what evidence do you think he should have?
Being there to convince people wasn't easy and it wasn't like Satoshi wanted to do that.

because there are so many people that hate crypto and bitcoin. Someone like him would surely become a target. Which is no doubt the reason he has kept his identity a secret.
Just imagine many other people who do not hate bitcoin, so bitcoin is growing very rapidly for now.
I mean like this, to link bitcoin, Satoshi and Government is no longer a problem, it's better that we no longer try to talk about it, the most important thing is that people's awareness of bitcoin has been very developed, because many people understand better and this is the best solution in investment.

It is curious though, what is he doing now? Has Satoshi ever tried to leave a message since his disappearance? Perhaps something hidden in plain sight? The biggest mystery of bitcoin, is he alive and well or was he Hal Finney and already passed? What is he like/where is he now? What does he like to do in his spare time. These things all come to mind, and I wish we had some answers. Wouldn't it be incredible if somehow he left a "final goodbye" message somewhere or like a book or something when he is ready to give it to the world. After BTC has turned a certain age or something.
The question is why did he do that.
to be famous?
to be appreciated?
or wishing for a nobel prize and other things in private.
and I honestly don't think Satoshi expected that, from what he created such a huge masterpiece with bitcoin.

No one can even guarantee where he is now, or maybe he's quite close to us on this forum.
The message he left was nothing more than the development of Bitcoin which is growing and advancing, because this is more rational than anything else.

I wonder if something like this will ever come about, maybe its just wishful thinking but if I created something like this for the entire world I would want people to hear my passion for its creation & also to leave some sort of closing message somewhere down the road as opposed to just peacing out at the first mention of the FBI. He is out there! Somewhere, doing something. He's got to be.
People limit the relationship between privacy and work, because they have big dreams for change, but it seems these people are more comfortable keeping their identity a secret, compared to a nobel prize or anything for an Award.
If you want to create great things, then think about doing what Satoshi did, because of the many great works that have been created, only Satoshi is the only person who has a big heart and is not rash when it comes to identity.
So what we see, he has been living comfortably without anyone knowing about it, and just imagine if his identity was published in the media, what would happen to him and his family.

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Wherever you are Satoshi, i'm sure that you're having a great time and living your best life and surely safe and secure, one would hope
Your last sentence, is actually the answer to many of the questions you have given, if you are able to analyze and understand the sentence.
Simple and quite practical to answer questions people ask about Satoshi.
1656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mining Bitcoin on: September 24, 2022, 06:59:23 AM
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ASIC miners (not cheap)
For now, ASIC prices vary quite a bit, depending on the year of production and the quality of the mining products, but the problem is that it is not enough to only use one, for this reason it seems that not everyone can achieve it.
After all, there are several important factors to consider before buying an ASIC.

1. Hash rate
2. Efficiency
3. Price

How many hashes a Bitcoin miner can generate per second, to get the most out of mining done with ASICs. This efficiency is important to ensure the hardware can run as efficiently as possible in mining, while the price determines the equipment used and can generate maximum profit.
The cheaper the device purchased, the lower the bitcoin mining generated and if the mining hardware is expensive and quality, the more bitcoins will be generated.
Don't try to buy miners based on price or hash rate alone. The best ASIC miners are the most efficient bitcoin miners.

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Electricity cost ( vary on each place)
Some Countries have differences or vary for the cost of electricity required to carry out mining, the electricity available by the government will not be able to offset the income generated by ordinary bitcoin mining.
this will not be optimal, because expenditures and income costs will never be balanced if we use the electrical engineering provided by the government, unless we can build our own environmentally friendly electricity system.

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Mining knowledge(Of course)
Regarding the quality of knowledge related to mining, it may not be a big problem, because nowadays there are many sources that can be easily learned, so it's not a big problem in my opinion.
Of course we need to learn before starting mining, so that the basic mining needs are known and can be implemented perfectly.

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Countries legal stance towards mining bitcoin
We can avoid the state's legal attitude towards bitcoin mining and not violate any rules, by buying or building a self-contained electrical system that is environmentally friendly and does not have an impact on environmental damage, so that none of these are violated in regulatory procedures.

Such as companies that use independent and environmentally friendly electrical systems. However, the problem is that the costs incurred are quite large and not everyone is able to fulfill them.

If you could really that able to have these checklist then you could mine.
You wont really be that dumb to proceed if you do see that you arent gaining or benefiting at all.Right?
Based on the above considerations, very few people want to mine using this method, if the quality of support is not adequate in carrying out the process, this will have no impact if the required tools are not available and are still quite complicated to fulfill.
Therefore, the cost of expenditure will not be offset by the mining results obtained, thus we are wasting time in the wrong place.
1657  Other / Archival / Re: Don't worry, bitcoin is cyclical on: September 23, 2022, 05:52:59 PM
Just another reminder that the bitcoin market is cyclical, and everything that we are seeing with bitcoin now has already happened before and the necessary lessons should be learned from this:
We can see the cycle of bitcoin's journey from several years of its journey until now, it's not so strange the picture you show to people who have known bitcoin for a long time and of course for beginners this is more suitable and must be integrated.
Even in real life the cycle is something that cannot be ignored or separated, it is directly related to the process of its journey.

"That's why bitcoin is more rational compared to others".

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There is no eternal bull run
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No eternal bearish trend
This is called a cycle

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dump is always followed by a pump
and this is part of the bitcoin journey cycle process, which is increasing logical and can be understood easily, without neglecting the close relationship with speculative.
Basically this is in line with natural processes in human life that are in accordance with the behavior that will be caused.
Without these two things, bitcoin would not be as rational as we see it today.

Now the market is dominated by bears, but sooner or later it will end and recovery and growth will begin:
That's how bitcoin works in generating the next ATH achievement, bitcoin's growth is far more advanced when compared to any investment model, even though the presence of technology and science is the driving force for bitcoin to grow.
Uniquely, bitcoin does not need testing, does not need to be used by many people and does not have to involve big people in its ownership, in order to push bitcoin to be more valuable and advanced.

Bitcoin runs itself according to progress, needs and can adapt to the complexity of people who want to get out of the chaos zone of financial freedom.
Speculative is another part that can be found in all forms of investment.

The low price of bitcoin is not a reason for panic and concern. This is the rare opportunity to buy cheap bitcoins. If you miss this moment now, then next time it may not be presented very soon.
This is actually very different when viewed by beginners or the more extreme dislike of bitcoin, because their understanding still considers bitcoin speculative and the same as gambling.
But don't worry, people who are experienced and very familiar with bitcoin must already know this problem very well.

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A correction is a time to buy, not to sell. Don't worry - just HODL (or buy more). Smiley
The last sentence is the best way to remove the fear, worry and panic from every cycle generated by bitcoin, in quotes "beginner"
1658  Economy / Economics / Re: The Impact of the Capitalist System on People's Economic Practices, Really? on: September 22, 2022, 06:06:06 PM
Yeah, and you will end up food poisoning the obese goose you're forced to make 10 eggs a day, we all know how this ends.
And I don't expect an ending like you know, but I want to see a beautiful ending for a fat goose laying ten eggs a day, because honestly I don't want to poison them and end up just dying.

Nope, no way I'm letting you avoid this question.
You presented this as a solution for everyone to ditch loans and invest in Bitcoins because in 5 years they will turn 5k into 30k, you words not mine:
Actually I do not want to avoid, but in fact you have assumed.
It seems I didn't mean that, more specifically I didn't mention the loan you meant.

So again, I'm asking you if this would be possible, why would anyone sell you a house for 30k when he invest 5k and get 30k by doing nothing?
Its nature is more to companies that deal with housing problems, so people are forced to follow their rules, and of course the purchase becomes the burden and responsibility of the buyer, if they take this route to buy a house.

Why do you think inflation happens:
People have more money, there is a limited offer for their demand, and prices skyrocket! The exact same scenario will happen in your example, who will buy the land work to build the house, and do all this when they could simply turn 5k into 30k in 3 years with no work?
This is where the real problem arises, the person you are referring to also does not fully understand how to invest in bitcoin, even the people around me are not very familiar with bitcoin, so the decision to buy a house prefers this way.
What needs to be underlined is that the company is the first party that owns the capital and simultaneously builds the house, while the second party is the bank as the guarantor for the purchase of the house.

Just as in order to make a profit from bitcoin somebody must buy that from you, the same happens with a house, it's not a dead asset as you have to buy it from somebody, just as how you're unwilling to sell your coins now for 10k a piece that guy won't sell you house for 30k.
There's no need to buy from me, and I'm sure you misunderstood the conversation we're having, or I don't quite understand the content of your question.
This is to be straight and not misunderstood, I mean the purchase of a house is a purchase from a private party, they are investors who build houses, while the buyer is free from anyone, but there is an agreement with a second party as a guarantor.
So, I mean houses as dead assets, because they buy houses to live in, not to resell as the first party did.
Well, on this basis I think people should learn more about bitcoin investment, when the investment they plan goes well, then to build a house there is no need to follow them, but we can build our own with the size and model we want.

My focus is here
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So the point of my post is buying a house as a place to live not for a business and that's why I say if someone invests in bitcoin at the right time, then there is no need to buy a house from them (the company).
Because we can build our own according to the wishes and sizes we want
1659  Economy / Economics / Re: The Impact of the Capitalist System on People's Economic Practices, Really? on: September 21, 2022, 08:34:11 AM
With this last paragraph it would seem that you don't necessarily understand or translate the all the information you've gathered from the concepts of Adam Smith across into the cryptocurrency realm.
This is only a piece of knowledge that we can share in real life, this concept clearly has positive and negative values in practice, and not everyone likes or dislikes the concept, so let the choice be the responsibility of each individual.

Investing means you can look at a huge swath of available historical information and make a balanced decision. The people at the point you describe never knew that Bitcoin would double in value, nevermind multiply ten fold
Technical talk can be learned according to one's preferences before getting further involved in investing, that's why a more systematic and measurable introduction to this problem is needed, so that people can know the functions and the best way to invest in bitcoin.

Because Bitcoin had simply only been around a few years which is not a sound basis for making a judgement of it's value. If that same amount was invested at the height, you would have lost 60%+ of the value of your money so far, but the same rabid crowd were still preaching that it will keep going back upwards.
Then if not bitcoin as a basis for consideration in investment decisions taken, what can we provide another example in your opinion?
The problem now is not that bitcoin has been around for several years running, but the value of investing in bitcoin is much better than any other investment system.
As for investing at the highest price and losing 60% as you mentioned, it is just a technical matter to enter the market under the right conditions. I'm also less sure that anyone would lose investing in bitcoin, if that complete understanding is known, either how to enter the market or buy at the right time.
That's why I say investment requires knowledge, does not work according to a narrow understanding, bitcoin is said to be good and perfect because of the long process they have gone through.

From what angle is bitcoin being harmed and what big problems should we be afraid of?

Hihihi, this is just funny.
So after bashing capitalism for three paragraphs we come to the solution that crypto provides to get out of the system , and that's:
It's just improvisation before getting to the actual point of discussion, does this look funny and ticklish. Grin Grin
Because basically I'm the type of person who likes humor before getting more serious into the discussion.

OP, do you know what investing your money (aka capital) and waiting for a return on your investment is?  Grin

You think you have managed to find the immortal golden goose that forever from now one will get you a golden egg and the price of gold will keep on rising, same with crypto, you think that (hmm, not nice including shitcoins here), you will get the same returns over and over again, year after year and that the $ value will keep being the same.
I prefer to take two pieces at once, the golden goose and the egg, because it will breed in the future  Grin Roll Eyes

That's why we have to name bitcoin golden goose in quotes in our discussion, whereas golden egg can be classified under other cryptocurrencies in general.
If the use of both can be done well, appropriate adjustments to the target when entering the market and using a measured strategy in investment, it is not impossible that investment is a step out of the capitalist system.
In the end we can conclude that bitcoin is the best source to run investments for now.
To be more convincing, I have accurate evidence of bitcoin travel for more tangible benefits for me Bitcoin Changes Lives, Touches Non-Formal Education for Underprivileged Children

Btw, if people would be able to turn 5k into 30k in 3 years just buy buying some coins, what do you think would happen to the prices of houses when everyone has millions in their bank accounts?  Cheesy
Since this is a discussion about the house as a place to live, it can be concluded that there is almost no income value from previous purchases, because basically a residential house is a dead asset that has no income value.
It's not like people turning 5K into 30k in buying some coins in the next three years, as long as the coins purchased have good potential value and movement.
So it can be concluded that the benefits obtained will be maximized in the future, in accordance with the involvement in the investment taken.

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Everyone should have the opportunity to choose financial freedom, without being compartmentalized in one or two systems.
If the opportunities we have are greater in the cryptocurrency space, why not make this a solution to exit any system.
Try to think big to produce more tangible benefits in our own lives.
Because if we don't change, then who else should we give this responsibility to?


CONCLUSION
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That the opportunity to get out of the capitalist zone is one's choice in taking financial freedom actions, Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency are the best choices today, if we are able to maximize and dare to take opportunities.
Comfort zone is not an option for people who are starting to learn bitcoin, because speculative and risk cannot be ignored in this space either.
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: September 20, 2022, 07:28:14 PM
Too much of the postponement has favored Chelsea this week lol Liverpool would want to trash them easily
It also doesn't look easy for Liverpool to destroy Chelsea, in the Premier League Liverpool have won just two of the six weeks they have played, drawing three and losing once against Manchester United.
When viewed from the series of matches they have played, Liverpool are also in a bad condition.
Likewise with Chelsea, they only won three times, lost two and drew one, from the six weeks they played.
That means both Clubs are in the same trouble.
It's just that Chelsea is superior in the number of wins, but not necessarily Chelsea can beat Liverpool in that match, I think a draw is more than enough for both of them.

New Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has been compared by midfielder Bruno Fernandes to Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp because of the way he instilled discipline and a certain mentality at Old Trafford.

Manchester United appointed him as permanent manager in May. However, the Dutchman's tenure as United manager started badly when he lost his first two games.

But since then, the results have improved, and United have won four Premier League games in a row to move up to the top five of the table.
Football also has an important role in terms of discipline and hard work, the players will build awareness to work together to improve skills.
This factor will influence the club to be better than before, since the coach was taken over by Erik Ten Hag, Manchester United have progressed, although in the first two matches they lost.
Erik Ten Hag is a coach who loves discipline and hard work, and it is evident that Cristian Ronaldo has lost his influence, not playing from the first minute and only coming off the bench as a substitute at the start of the season.

Erik Ten Hag has similarities with Pep Guardiola, although it is clear that the contribution of the titles given cannot be said to be the same, especially since Erik Ten Hag has just coached a big club, while Pep Guardiola has been for a long time. So that the comparison of Pep Guardiola's success cannot be compared with Erig Ten Hak who has just coached Manchester United.
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