Bir Tawil nation

[kuroman]

it is indeed, but I think Bir Tawil was answered, from my perspective, the geopolitical tensions in that region will render any attempt impossible, not to mention as I mentioned before, the region is full of pirates, and separatist (Somali is split in two right now) ect ect, I think that bitcoin should gain political and lobying power in several nations but I believe that woudn't happen with current market cap but if bitcoin get past the 10K point things will become more interesting

Bir Tawil is full of pirates? It has no sea coast and Somalia is far away. There are no humans there with the exception of the Egyptian soldiers. The easiest way to establish a Bitcoin nation might be in Bir Tawil.

far from coast? less than 200km is far for you? hmm

[bryant.coleman]

far from coast? less than 200km is far for you? hmm

Yes. 200 km is a very large distance. Especially in the Sahara desert where there are no roads or even isolated tracks. Even the Egyptian military uses helicopters to get its personal to the Bir Tawil. How do you expect the pirates to get there. Also, given the naval patrols being conducted by the navies of Egypt and Saudi Arabia in the Red sea, I don't find it possible for the Somali pirates to reach anywhere near that area.

[kuroman]

far from coast? less than 200km is far for you? hmm

Yes. 200 km is a very large distance. Especially in the Sahara desert where there are no roads or even isolated tracks. Even the Egyptian military uses helicopters to get its personal to the Bir Tawil. How do you expect the pirates to get there. Also, given the naval patrols being conducted by the navies of Egypt and Saudi Arabia in the Red sea, I don't find it possible for the Somali pirates to reach anywhere near that area.

It's not really that desert of an area, there is even a national park around near by, the region is between the river Nile and sea shore, while some of it is located in deserted from the sea to the Bir Tawil area is far from being all desert, and you think pirates/separatists/terrorist in the region uses sport cars? it's pickup trucks and they know very well the region. Ask AQMI how they manage to move around in the Sahara between Algeria, Mali, Libya, Sudan. As how to expect pirates despite the tight surveillance (btw there are even US destroyers in the area to help) then maybe you should check the recent ships they managed to take over in recent years despite all that

[dmcgr49]

Why Bir Tawil, why not Bir Tawil and the Hala'ib Triangle. Obviously for Egypt and Sudan to renounce their claims it would require them both to benefit from it, what better than economic growth for both countries. Say for example the countries main telecomms provider is an Egyptian company and the defense force deals are with a Sudanese company. Just an example. As for water, in every post I've ever seen about Bir Tawil no one has mentioned desalinatation plants. Since the whole of Bir Tawil and the Hala'ib Triangle only receive about 20mm annual precipitation why not drain the water from the red sea. And for any country to start up, it will be in mass debt for the first 50+ years and with a startup like this with no money, no economy and no basis for an economy until you get things running you'd probably rely a lot on the IMF, World Bank and International loans, just note Bir Tawil does have oil caches under all that sand. There's no point starting a country if its going to end up in poverty with no infrastructure, health care or even housing or water. Foreign investment would be key, long term loans would make up a good proportion of the economy and since it lacks natural resources a large manufacturing industry would be ideal. You can't start a country without a long term goal and a plan, a plan for the next 20 years atleast.

[bryant.coleman]

Why Bir Tawil, why not Bir Tawil and the Hala'ib Triangle.

The Hala'ib Triangle is strategically very important for the Egyptians. It contains several kilometers of the Red Sea coast and there are several permanent villages there as well. Egypt is never going to give up that area.

[BitcoinFX]

The Kingdon of North Sudan - https://kingdomsudan.org/

Bir Tawil - https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_North_Sudan

Mapping micronations - The Stream - http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201408141504-0024059

 

[yummyransom]

I dont think the location is ideal.

I don't know if it is good tho.