Flat Earth

[notbatman]

^^^ So you're going to go down the "war doesn't involve conspiracy" path are we?

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[suchmoon]

^^^ My hint was that's it's a Azimuthal Equidistant map.

I know they use this type because during an elementary school class tour of a large ship, I commented on the AE map in a map book on the bridge and was immediately scolded by the Jewish teacher who snapped the book shut and made sure to explain what a stupid comment I made.

The heading "GLOBAL WAR" on a Flat Earth map says it all, think about that in the context of a massive conspiracy. Unless you want to argue war doesn't involve conspiracy?

Wow dude. You just totally bypassed all the times the description of your Flat Earth Map used the word GLOBE and POLE (and even Azimuth itself refers to an object that is globe shaped) to make a ridiculous, racist point. Your evidence that the map is used by sailors has to do with an anecdote from elementary school?

At least now we know what made notbatman into a nazi flat-earther. It's clearly the teacher's fault.

[notbatman]

^^^ So you're going to go down the "war doesn't involve conspiracy" path are we?

Stop changing the subject. Who the fuck said anything about war not involving conspiracy? Oh that's right, it was you when you were trying to avoid explaining why you believe in a map that clearly states it is a projection of a globe.

So, why do you believe in a map that clearly states it is a projection of a globe?

Notice the red lines, the routs connecting major star ports; they're lines not arcs. The only logical conclusion based on the logistical fallacy of taking a longer path than is required is that the globe is a projection and the map is true. In war a projectile is fired at the enemy and in this case, it's a large heavy ball.

It's a global war map and you're ((no you specifically due to being a shill)) the enemy, welcome the New World Order.

[nutildah]

Notice the red lines, the routs connecting major star ports; they're lines not arcs. The only logical conclusion based on the logistical fallacy of taking a longer path than is required is that the globe is a projection and the map is true.

That's not what the description text says. It clearly says its a projection of a globe with poles.

"This map is made on the North Polar Azimuthal Equidistant Projection. This means that the world has been projected on a plane tangent to the North Pole, with the parallels of latitude as concentric circles equally spaced from the pole outward."

How about the only logical conclusion is the map is what it says it is?

You lose. I'm not entertaining you any further.

[notbatman]

Notice the red lines, the routs connecting major star ports; they're lines not arcs. The only logical conclusion based on the logistical fallacy of taking a longer path than is required is that the globe is a projection and the map is true.

That's not what the description text says. It clearly says its a projection of a globe with poles.

"This map is made on the North Polar Azimuthal Equidistant Projection. This means that the world has been projected on a plane tangent to the North Pole, with the parallels of latitude as concentric circles equally spaced from the pole outward."

How about the only logical conclusion is the map is what it says it is?

You lose. I'm not entertaining you any further.

There's times in life when you need to read between the lines.

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Guess what kind of map sailors use?



Hint:

Gleason's or other Azimuthal Equidistant (Equal distant) maps are distorted images as each square is of equal distance. You cant make that type of map without distortion. It is used by sailors with various scales.

Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

Scaling for soldier is easier and cheaper as no need to buy expensive navigation charts.

[notbatman]

Q: How many hours are there in 1 day?







A: 12 hours.

[notbatman]

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Gleason's or other Azimuthal Equidistant (Equal distant) maps are distorted images as each square is of equal distance. You cant make that type of map without distortion. It is used by sailors with various scales.
...
Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:
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Scaling for soldier is easier and cheaper as no need to buy expensive navigation charts.
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I find your statements suspect...








Meanwhile, over at NASA:

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Q: How many hours are there in 1 day?







A: 12 hours.

Apart from making nice sundials like geasons or other Azimuthal Equidistant Maps its main purpose and existence was/(is) to make navigation unnecessary complicated and expensive. Only select few could do it as schooling, maps are expensive and must be updated regularly.
A solder on the other hand on average is not that smart (otherwise he would not be try to terminate same kind) or has the means to carry or buy expensive distorted charts so he is not using them.

Hard core facts, Russia (from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok) is about 10k East-West and 4k North South, Australia East-West as the Crow flies Perth to Brisbane 4K and 3,7k North-South (Darwin to Hobart in km).

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Gleason's or other Azimuthal Equidistant (Equal distant) maps are distorted images as each square is of equal distance. You cant make that type of map without distortion. It is used by sailors with various scales.
...
Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:
...
Scaling for soldier is easier and cheaper as no need to buy expensive navigation charts.
...

I find your statements suspect...

Nothing suspect, pure facts.
Russia is from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok about 10k and 4k North to South
Australia, Perth to Brisbane 4K and 3,7k North-South (Darwin to Hobart in km).


Red and Blue square are of equal lenght (i think 1k miles in this case) thats how Equi-distant maps work.

[nutildah]

Now this thread is reduced to two pigeons playing chess with each other.

[cryptomike82]

Now this thread is reduced to two pigeons playing chess with each other.

https://i.imgur.com/fCMsoQb.jpg

This sums it up i guess ...

[BADecker]

Meanwhile, over at NASA:

No flat Earth there.      

[BADecker]

Regarding the horizon...

If you are 6 feet tall,
and you are standing on the beach looking out to sea at a ship,
if the top of the mast is a hundred feet above sea level,
you will still see the top of the mast at a great distance away.

The reason for the great distance is the great curvature of the earth. If the earth globe were not so large, the horizon would not be so far off. The distance is what makes observations unreliable... because of atmospheric aberrations, etc.

If you were the same 6-foot-tall person,
at the same place on the beach,
looking out at the same ship,
but you were buried in the sand up to your chin,
(like people bury themselves in sand at the beach),
the ship would have to be a lot closer,
so that you could see the same part of the top of the mast,
as you did when you were standing on the beach.

When the ship is closer, you get a much better view because of less aberration of the atmosphere, and less interference from whatever other atmospheric effects and conditions. Now that you don't have the atmospheric effects, you can clearly see that the earth is a globe, as the ship goes over the horizon.


When you are on straight and level land,
and you place your eyes near the ground,
by the side of a straight and level road,
(maybe get into the ditch),
the horizon is so near and the atmospheric aberrations so limited,
that you can easily see the horizon effect of globe earth,
in the way a moving car gradually disappears over the horizon.

You don't need some silly ship-at-sea thing. Everybody can do this right where they are at. You can use your digital camera. The distance is so close that even if you use a fish-eye lens, the effect of the lens will be negligible regarding how the car goes over the horizon. Any mirage-like atmospheric effect will be so small that it will make no difference with regard to the car clearly going over the horizon. Now, you can tell the earth is a globe, by eye or by camera, no matter who you are.


Of course, the above will have to be modified in some ways. My directions may not be exact for you and your location. You will have to consider your own details for your own location. But almost anyone can figure out how to do this enough to prove that the earth is a globe.

[suchmoon]

Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

You're not seriously suggesting that Greenland is about as big as South America? Every flat map is distorted.

[nutildah]

Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

You're not seriously suggesting that Greenland is about as big as South America? Every flat map is distorted.

Frankly we should just stop commenting here. Its more fun to watch them cannibalize themselves. I think they get their rocks off by coming up with absurd counterarguments, strange as it may sound.

[sirazimuth]

Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

You're not seriously suggesting that Greenland is about as big as South America? Every flat map is distorted.

Frankly we should just stop commenting here. Its more fun to watch them cannibalize themselves. I think they get their rocks off by coming up with absurd counterarguments, strange as it may sound.

agreed, but sometimes trolling feeding the trolls can be fun.

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Army's however navigate using proper world map without distortion like this:

You're not seriously suggesting that Greenland is about as big as South America? Every flat map is distorted.

Lets stick to facts.

The Military Grid Reference System (MGRS) is used by NATO militaries for locating points on the earth and is accurate within 1 meter square and one square can be as large as 100000 meter (100km). A square within a square, square.......
Come on show me how you do that on a globe. Tell me how you calculate a large triangle on sphere, or have parallel lines on a ball.
A you suggesting NATO is wrong and does not know how large Greenland is?

http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/coordsys/mmr201.pdf



The MGRS grid system is very similar to UTM zones. Interesting is the skipping of 31V and 32X, 34X 36X. Who wants to go to Spitsbergen, (33X)
With so exceptions each grid is 666 meter wide and 888 km height.





Transcontinental Russian rail track from Moscow–Vladivostok is 9,289 kilometres (5,772 miles) long and takes 8 days. From Kiev its another 2k. Are you suggesting it is wrong also.
I can tell you how long the Nullarbor Plain in Australia is as i crossed it from Perth to Adelaide. If i remember correctly it was 2 days and 3 nites and yes its flat for hours on end in every direction.

[BADecker]

Globe Earth has been and can be proven by horizon events on land rather than at sea.

Also, if you examine everything other than the earth itself that can be examined, there is nothing flat. Flat is all perspective. Detailed examination shows that there is nothing flat, so why would anyone think the earth could be flat?

[suchmoon]

Interesting is the skipping of 31V and 32X, 34X 36X.

Interesting indeed. Also interesting that there is a different MGRS grid for the polar region that shows why the skipping occurred: