pro tip always ctrl+p your message at regular intervals during writing...
Hmmm I do not think it is only a question of money but I agree with bryant.coleman, why is it needed this VETO? We can't call it a democracy vote where 1 nation = 1 vote but if one (or more) of those 5 nations will express the VETO, it can block everything (
this is really insane).
May be we should give more importance to either GDP or the total population. Giving 1 vote each to Monaco (which is having a population of 30,000) and China (population of 1.3 billion) is not fair either. The US is able to get dozens of votes by default, from its minuscule vassal states such as Micronesia and Marshall Islands, which puts it in an advantage when compared to the others.
Yes of course, but they cannot stop the action with the VETO. it should be removed, because 5 nations can't 'decide' to all the others. I can say at 99% that USA doesn't want to help the Palestinian people instead I can say they want help 'only' the israeli government.
Waiting a reply from J. J. Phillips (if you want
) without any sort of blame or offense by you, thanks.
I'm behind on this thread, so I'll just assume the past few pages is a lot of "Gee I wish the U.S. didn't have a veto so the U.N. could kill the Jews."
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Pretend it's a hypothetical world in which the U.S. is out of the picture at the U.N. Now countries can vote however they want on the security council, at the general assembly, or however you imagine the U.N. works. Now, what
exactly could/would/should the U.N. do in regards to the Arab-Israeli conflict?
Someone earlier mentioned that the U.N. could patrol the seas near Gaza to prevent weapon shipments. I see no evidence that "the U.N." (whatever that even means in this context) wants to prevent weapon shipments to Gaza. Frankly, I see no evidence that most of the people on this board want that.
But do you think "the U.N." would vote to enforce a weapons blockage on Gaza? (Since you won't answer, I'll answer for you: no, you don't.)
OK. Maybe you think "the U.N." will vote to recognize a Palestinian state as was discussed earlier. Well, maybe they would. And that would change...what...exactly. I asked earlier, and someone responded with "a lot would change." I'm sure he's given specifics to flesh that out since I've been away.
Now let me let you in on a little open secret. The U.N. is a fucking joke. Yes, it's anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian, if you care to look into it. But that's hardly a problem because the U.N. quite literally doesn't matter.
You say the U.N. doesn't stop the evil Zionist Jews from hurting those poor peaceful people who just want to live in peace with neighbor oh yes, we'd never lie to
KILL THE JEWS THERE'S ONE BEHIND THAT TREE!Well, yes, the U.N. doesn't stop them. The U.N. is powerless (fortunately). But that cuts both ways.
If all those countries that would vote against Israel at the U.N. to "stop Israel" just formed an alliance to take some action, the U.N. could and would do nothing to stop them. They really can't use the excuse "The U.N. won't let us" except on very uninformed people.
What is the action you think would be helpful here if "the U.N." took it? And why can't the countries form a coalition and simply take that action?
redzeronazi says:
they cannot stop the action with the VETO
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What is it you really want? Since you guys don't answer questions, I'll answer for you again. You want dead Jews. Don't worry, eventually a coalition will be formed, the Jews will be killed, and you can hand out candy on the streets while cheering. The only thing that's delaying it is most people who want to do it want someone else to pay for it. And the fact that post-Hitler the Jews learned you have to shoot back, so the next people who try to kill the Jews might find themselves dead instead.
J.J. what a funny guy. I find very interesting your position, you know as much as I defend your God Given Rights to EXPRESS yourself the way you see fit (while hurting no one, ie everyone can NOT read you), I have to defend the poor Brian, who too has the UNCENSORABLE rights to express his CURRENT view (linked to the inputs he may have), on the topic remember that the objectification of certain people under the nsdap rulership was not exclusively directed toward the "jews"... fact (worth repeating, remember others exterminated didn't have the financial support that some others hand (roms, gays, political opponents, financial opponents, dissidents, traitors, sick, non normalized behaviors etc etc etc).
However I think that I myself was missing the scam (scam are just scam) that the U.N. is, as you may have read those subhumans want to stop ME, to use a plant of the creation, that MY CREATOR, created. It's a genocide. I believed that the goal of the potus was all hail the potus, but the U.N. trough their charter want to impose it on ALL PEOPLE. which means that any texts that could in any way not agree with their doctrine must be eradicated.
you understand that the rabbis, will not let it go (understand equally that some real American Patriots, that understand fully what the forefathers tried to achieve in this text and how subsequent generation adapted it for the best (end of slavery) and the worst (to impose trough the legislative and executive power a ban on a plant of the creation and the scam of the gmos).
So thank you.
then I ask you, as you seem well informed, about the probability that I saw reference to the Quran in some text of the un agencies, wrong? any reference to the Torah (including words or concept?). but what ever, the us constitution is supreme on the land of the United States of America, the opponents of it will be purged, like the owls after lunch. dirty but necessary.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Bubo_bubo_-British_Wildlife_Centre%2C_Surrey%2C_England-8a.jpg/800px-Bubo_bubo_-British_Wildlife_Centre%2C_Surrey%2C_England-8a.jpgWhat I was trying to say is that some believe (ignorant) that they will be able to impose sharia trough the un... (no joke you can see it in sdr support).
I'm behind on this thread, so I'll just assume the past few pages is a lot of "Gee I wish the U.S. didn't have a veto so the U.N. could kill the Jews."
Oh.. here you come again. OK... now answering your question, I don't think there will ever be a resolution in the United Nations, to "Kill the Jews". We were talking about the right of Palestinians to live on the lands where they were born (and their ancestors were born), and not about gassing a few hundred Jews.
the problem brian is that you live under the old Russian system of thinking on this issue, we are not speaking of a few generations here. that's what you lack here, historical deepness. let's say that a group of fucking terrorists bent on enslaving your sisters, mothers, wife, destroying all cultural relics of the past of your ancestors, ban a lot of activities, all of this pretending to do it for your own good, took over Moscow, forced all the residents to convert or be second class citizen (when happy otherwise it's program one earlier spoken) would you think that the war to take back Moscow would be Eternal? if not leave. (ref, source for the low lives, scum academics and others shitfullhead : ETERNAL CHINA).
I'm behind on this thread, so I'll just assume the past few pages is a lot of "Gee I wish the U.S. didn't have a veto so the U.N. could kill the Jews."
Oh.. here you come again. OK... now answering your question, I don't think there will ever be a resolution in the United Nations, to "Kill the Jews".
We were talking about the right of Palestinians to live on the lands where they were born (and their ancestors were born), and not about gassing a few hundred Jews. Exactly, I have created this thread only to 'catch' some opinion about the fact : why the Palestinian people are oppressed? Why didn't israel respect those *agreements? Why have they illegal invaded Palestine?
I am not talking about hamas etc... I am talking about the Palestinian people and you cannot sat they are not oppressed (if you will say it, I am sure you are a liar). The fault here is from UN and (old/actual) israel government.
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I always appreciate discussion on any topic, furthermore when conflicting opinions arise, I find even cool when my own position is changed following it.
However the people, is an interesting concept in a time of war, conquest, submission, oppression and ultimately the control of what is legal or not.
I rephrase there is no way for me to accept the reduction of my GOD GIVEN RIGHTS express beautifully (for the hands feasible men) in the US CONSITUTION AND BILLS OF RIGHTS (A9).
The Palestinians people must accept that once your ancestors stole, you have entered a conflicting position. to take back the case of Moscow taken by the hordes... if the Russian regroup beyond the Urals, motivated themselves, ask the help of the Siberians (who by the way would already be on the road to join them) you have to accept that even if it took a few generations, the take over back will be, how to say it, depending on the position of the previous invaders concerning their will or refusal of ts, ie total surrender. if they don't, they must accept their choices and the consequences of the results of the engagements. (rest assured Brian, Moscow will not fall, or they will be nothing else).
the Palestinians "people" are oppressed by the political/economical system of those profiting from a conflict with the Israelis, those opposing democracy, those wanting to impose global one world gov (ie law, and impunity and the capacity to pillage everywhere), you yes they are fucked up, and launched a demographic war against the soviets and survivors of the holocaust in Israel... bad choices. Mothers will tears, like they always do went their men lose the war... they played.
Somehow I totally fucked up my last post. This is all that's left. Fuck it. I'm not typing it again. Short version: You're all fucking lying Jew hating Nazis.
And why are the "Palestinian people oppressed"? Because they're fucking terrorists! Every chance they have ever been given to help make peace they have used to make war. It's like saying the KKK is oppressed, which they actually kind of are, but I am 100% in favor of the "oppression" of violent racists. I'm funny that way. (The KKK was also formed as resistance to occupation, by the way.)
Just to clarify in case any of you are KKK supporters. While I hate the KKK, I in no way mean to suggest they're as bad as the Palestinians.
there can't be peace. simple. I want to drink my fresh white wine smoking weed on the beach... now add the fact that some women would like to do the same, wearing the outfit they see fit, how would so called Muslims reacts? How I put 1B people in the balances of war... hmm hmm, the avengers don't count, they hash.
So yes it's total warfare. that's why I like Israel (and even more The Promise of America), even if some want to live the ultra total full lifestyle they have no rights to stop me doing my things under the Watch of God, as such as consensus and respect and tolerance and peace and love among all must be preserved and nurtured, certainly I may not do it in certain places (MADD crew I listen) they don't see fit, but they agree to that if I can't (ie nowhere), what are my options? hehehe we wanna trade weed, they agreed, opposition is futile, remember the table (
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Why didn't Israel respect those *agreements?
What agreements are you referring to? Your * referenced a map. This map talked about the British mandate, the UN partition plan of 1947, Israeli independence in 1948 followed by the attacks by Arab neighbors, and finally the Six Day War in 1967. Which of these are "agreements"? The only one that seems close to an "agreement" is the UN partition plan of 1947, but the Palestinians rejected it, not the Israelis. A plan is only an "agreement" when both sides agree.
While I have asked you many questions in the previous paragraph, I know you're incapable of answering questions. I mean, if you can't even attempt to answer a "fill in the blank" question about what action the U.N. could/should take if the U.S. didn't have a veto, when YOU'RE the one who wrote "the action," then it's clear you really can't answer even the simplest question. So you don't have to bother. Just keep posting uninformed dumb bullshit that ignores everything I say. People seem to enjoy it.
ohh it's so more simple a frontier which correspond to threat factors facing the nations of Israel, by definition it can't be static. meaning or the others tribes accepting to move toward the light, or they perish. I know, war is brutal. so don't even waste your time on stupid things. war has imperative. IMPERIAL ROME, understood. no 2 teaching. once is always enough. I know. However the enemy must understand that Israel like most nations has corruptions problem, however if the opponents of Israel are peaceful it's easier to address internal corruption (war is so easy, silence), and in parallel to downscale the military might even to inexistence point, remember all industries can be traded to oblivion how powerful they are, they ain't the floor, nor the street, or the SWARM.
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Just to clarify in case any of you are KKK supporters. While I hate the KKK, I in no way mean to suggest they're as bad as the Palestinians.
This is the original post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012231.msg11125626#msg11125626 and it seems that you know the truth but you don't want to say it
. No problem, we all know that israel invaded the Palestinian land "illegally", so you can say whatever you want but at the end you will be always wrong.
Can I ask you why are you doing this? It is really insane, change the words/thought of other users. Are you paid to do this? Thanks for the attention.
Um. No that's a link to one of your posts. Be careful or people might catch on to the fact that we're the same person and this whole thread is just a fucking game. And obviously you know whether or not I'm paid to do this, because you know whether or not you're paid to do this.
are you fucking nuts? where to colo those miners... we need to know and we will, hasbara, pr, pro... what ever, the Swarm always wins... think about flies... it's shit or not. 1 or 0. vmr to infinity, and yes it 1 or 0.
Israel invaded the Palestinian land "illegally"
Something can only be "illegal" if it's against the law. Which law do you mean?
Again, you're not the question answering sort, I know. I capitalized the I in "Israel" in your quote because it seems like you forgot to.
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FINALLY. 1 the US CONSTITUTION WILL NOT BE DEFEATED, those opposing will be objectivized sooner or later. but will be, including d.e., f.e. and u.e. (undefined), remember it's a job too, not only a Call, understand the efficiency that some members of the swarm requests to support, and the enemy may face extinction rather earlier and for reasons beyond his reach that he may think. the Eagle, the Wolf, the Bear, the Snake and all among them agree, you need to be local even at the size of a continent, global what the fuck let them be, but the home front will be defended including the take over and release of the all world. I know, they are crazy. Who is crazier to attack such crazy people? not Chinese, not Russian for sure.
then about your Nazi rants, nsdap... Nazi is national socialism, some ethnic people behave the same way, excluding the nation but take the appurtenance to an ethnicity or cultural divergences as a basis for discrimination against others, which lead to fucking weak way of think and operating wars (ex: rihana). ROME IMPERIAL but UNITED. or rephrased their is no others social contract acceptable but the one behind all troops in their free will. ULTIMATE. many many many (so many that it wasn't counted) perished against it. And many more understanding that this bound of trust was ultimately for the benefits each that those loved, joined. the problem is always fleecing corruption, they are violent but weak, how weak... how many against 1?
To clarify about my missing post: I wrote a massive wall of text replying to everything in great detail and demolishing all arguments against the legitimacy and in favor of the right of return. The post mention the KKK was meant to be a clarification of a small part of that post. I probably clicked "edit" instead of "quote" and edited by massive post to almost nothing.
Since presenting claims without evidence is popular in this thread, I'll just expect you to accept that I won the argument completely in that lost post. You're welcome.
I just did (second hint: ctrl+c)
However, I think it's not quite true to say that groups are stopped when they want to help the people in the Palestinian territories:
"Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip receive one of the highest levels of aid in the world."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_PalestiniansIt's several billion dollars worth of aid each year. Most of this aid comes from Europe.
Everyone ignored this, but I think it's important. The fact that "Palestinians receive one of the highest levels of aid in the world" is completely consistent with my assertion "
most of the world hates Jews." Palestinians are being rewarded for killing Jews. However, it's completely inconsistent with the assertion "The U.S. is preventing help getting to the Palestinians" which people seem to be making here (especially regarding the U.S. influence on the U.N.). Maybe you're not being clear about the kind of "help" you have in mind. I'd ask, but everyone would ignore the question.
it's a fucking fact! look in isreal I could have been a gay smoking weed playing poker with the daughter of the rabbi! wtf, before going to the army to defend the land of my ancestors against those wanting to impose their laws on my people... great. let's the head rolls ( the buildings bombed and the sky flashed), who cares, they want me dead. and this is the war... just as always, when the EMPIRE is in motion and for various reasons unthinkable by non imperial forces, don't stand in the path, it's temporary your rights are always, laws, visions are always preserved, but you have to contribute financially, why? it's hosting, and it's the price of the preservation of what's yours and the symbol of your acceptance and tolerance of the necessity and priority of the empire. (mega pro hint: it could be religious too, even if you as occupied people don't accept, recognize fight or oppose such belief).
Somehow I totally fucked up my last post. This is all that's left. Fuck it. I'm not typing it again. Short version: You're all fucking lying Jew hating Nazis.
And why are the "Palestinian people oppressed"? Because they're fucking terrorists! Every chance they have ever been given to help make peace they have used to make war. It's like saying the KKK is oppressed, which they actually kind of are, but I am 100% in favor of the "oppression" of violent racists. I'm funny that way. (The KKK was also formed as resistance to occupation, by the way.)
Just to clarify in case any of you are KKK supporters. While I hate the KKK, I in no way mean to suggest they're as bad as the Palestinians.
jesus
fucking christ you've managed to condense a lot of bad opinions into such a small amount of words
I didn't
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3rd ctrl+p before sending too.
