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February 26, 2012, 06:03:47 PM
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when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.
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February 26, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
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when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.

Also even if it was true (which it isn't) then the pool isn't proportional.
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February 27, 2012, 01:03:40 PM
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when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.
  • 1. There is no such thing as a 'Hopper bonus'. There is only a proportional payout system.
  • 2. A strategic miner on a given proportional payout pool will receive around 1.4 to 1.6x PPS after twenty or so rounds. If you are only getting 1xPPS you aren't getting a proportional payout.
  • 3. 100% of what? Not a proportional payout. If it's supposed to be 100% of PPS then I'd want to see exactly PPS reward every single round.

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February 28, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
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I have mined here for the last week...

I do think something is up too..  its abnormally poor payout...

And it is odd there is no short rounds..



And why is bitclockers page down ?

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March 05, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
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Why do I never receive a email after registering a account? (no, its not in the spam folder)
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March 09, 2012, 06:36:16 AM
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SERVER UPDATES IN PROGRESS

Pool development patches and upgrades being allied from 3/8/12 through 3/11/2012

Please see the Bitclockers Development thread for up to date details.

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SERVER UPDATES IN PROGRESS

Pool development patches and upgrades being allied from 3/8/12 through 3/11/2012

Please see the Bitclockers Development thread for up to date details.
yet still never explains anything?

you guys are truly shady.


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March 09, 2012, 10:56:50 PM
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March 11, 2012, 06:59:35 PM
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you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this Smiley

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March 11, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
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you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this Smiley
And yet the pools hashrate remains. Who are you kidding, anyway?

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March 11, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
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you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this Smiley
And yet the pools hashrate remains. Who are you kidding, anyway?

Sad, that. As long as miners think they're getting paid properly, they'll ignore anything to the contrary and stay. It's just like miners at proportional pools that were just sticking their heads in the sand last year.

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March 27, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
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Interesting stuff:



Note the "hidden_by_user", who somehow created his worker in 1969, probably before Satoshi was even born.
During other blocks, that same user sometimes had more hashrate than the entire pool combined, I assumed it to be goat or clipse though I never understood how they could change the registration date without hacking the site. I guess it must be something registered by the poolop.

THen, and hour later, same round:



Now he actually is hidden?

More interesting stuff when you just glance over the block history. Blocks are now linked to blockexplorer, I guess that proves they are legit. Or are they? The times dont match the ones in blockexporer, I mean they are not even close. Its not a timezone issue either  with a constant number of hours difference and perhaps a few minutes fluctuation, its like there is no correlation whatsoever.  Only the day usually matches. Still ahm, stretching the length truth?

Some of the blocks are even in the wrong order. Look at blockid 570 (1722286) which was listed before blocks 571 and 572 (172345). I suppose typos can happen, if you manually invent your blocks.

I can guess the response though. " We dont support pool hopping ".
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March 27, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
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on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?


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March 27, 2012, 05:30:12 PM
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on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?

I also have problem with bitclockers near two days now. I dirty hopper so maybe that is problem ?

Maybe time to remove bitclocker from hopping config ? This thread make very fishy smell about bitclocker admin and I no like fishy smell. Remind me of prostitute Oksana I once meet in Kiev.
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on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?

I also have problem with bitclockers near two days now. I dirty hopper so maybe that is problem ?

Maybe time to remove bitclocker from hopping config ? This thread make very fishy smell about bitclocker admin and I no like fishy smell. Remind me of prostitute Oksana I once meet in Kiev.
Very well said, sir. Also, Grin I don't like fishy smells either.

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"Hidden by user" is back. The worker created in unixtime=0. Check this out:



He has supposedly mined 60500 shares out of a total of 78000 this round.


Hypothesis: this is a fabricated worker whos purpose is to artifically inflate share count at the beginning of a round. IOW, bitclockers are hopping themselves.

Good plan: blame the hoppers, but reek in the profits yourself! No wonder they are hesitant to switch to a fair payout system.

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Maybe. But more likely a proxy pool. It's getting harder to hop pools now, and 120% at bitlockers is better than nothing.

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Maybe. But more likely a proxy pool. It's getting harder to hop pools now, and 120% at bitlockers is better than nothing.

How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?
That date is no coincidence btw, for those that dont know, unixtime is a way to format date and time thats calculated as seconds since January 1st 1970. IOW, this particular worker has an empty or "null" creation date. Probably an oversight by the pool op when he made it.

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How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?


OK, good point. But since 0 seconds in unixtime is (1970,1,1) wouldn't that be a more likely null date? This looks more like a hack tag.

Still, it certainly does smell like unwashed gymclothes, and what you and Goat mention seems like the Occams razor explanation. It would be easy for the pool to come clean if not.

It is a great way for the pool to make cash though. Make a bunch of accounts and hop your own prop pool. Make it impossible for other miners to submit shares at the start of a round.

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March 29, 2012, 12:31:58 PM
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By the way, notice anything odd about the round shares on 25th March? Coincidence? Any other pool I'd say 'yes'. At bitclockers I start to wonder how they coud be profiting from it. This is the price of publishing fake stats and not being transparent.

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