[250GH/s] BitClockers.com Merged/No Invalids/Pure PPS/DDoS-Resistant/Live Stats

[backburn]

Please see our website for all the latest details www.bitclockers.com

Support thread -post here: http://bitclockers.com/forums/

BitClockers.com is a Bitcoin community mining pool,the folks here at BitClockers.com are willing to help get you started. We have forums and live chat where fellow users and admins are available to help with any questions you might have. If we don't have a feature you want, let us know! We're actively developing our services every day.

BitClockers.com Features:

• We take account security seriously; that is why we are the first and only pool to provide Google Authenticator 2-Factor authentication FREE!
• We provide LIVE statistics, graphs, and API data; get the latest data for your miners every page load!
  
  • Merged Mining with NameCoins for maximized profits!
    
  • FREE Video Card Overclocking Guides and Step by Step Guides for Miner Setup and Optimization on the clean and friendly BitClockers.com Forums.
  • Get help the second you need it; BitClockers provides instant Live Chat support!
  • Worker Watchdog - you can be notified by email if any of your miners pass preset limits. Such as: hash rate, rejected shares, and last seen.
  • We support the latest in mining pool tech; including Long Polling(+LP) for reduced stale shares and increased efficiency.
  • Namecoins are paid proportionally at the end of a block.  payout = user_shares / total_block_shares * 49
  • Bitcoins are paid out instantly per share. A 8% PPS fee is charged for providing the preferred variance and best support and server uptimes in the industry.
  • Truly Instant Payouts; Get your BTC when you need it! No wait times, no transaction fees, and best of all we pay the TX fee to get your BTC to you even FASTER!
  • JSON format API for pool, account, and worker status information.
  • Live pool and account status signature images.
  • *hop proof PPS reward system
  • Block Explorer Links
  • Pool development thread to track features and their progress
  • Keep Signed In
  • Multiple datacenters for speed and redundancy. Servers in Denver & Chicago, USA
  • BitClockers.com is fully encrypted and signed with a registered SSL Certficate for privacy and enhanced account security.
  • Friendly and active IRC channel with Live pool and worker statistics. chat.freenode.net: #bitclockers
  
  
  
  >> STEP BY STEP GUIDE FOR MINING BITCOINS AND JOINING THE POOL <<
  
  Getting Started with Bitclockers.com:
  1. Register an account with Bitclockers.com and setup worker accounts on the Dashboard. You can use the same worker username/password for multiple miners.
  2. Join your miner to the pool; the hostname is pool.bitclockers.com the port is 8332 and the username and password is that of the worker you created BitClockers.com.
     - We recommend installing GUIMiner by kiv for those that are new to mining.
        Command line: none needed. You can find a complete step-by-step guide for Installing GUIMiner and joining the pool.
     - We also recommend Phoenix Miner by jedi95 for advanced users.
        Command line: phoenix.exe -u http://WORKERNAME:WORKERPASS@pool.bitclockers.com:8332/ -k poclbm DEVICE=0 -v
     - For advanced users:
        1. Download Phoenix Miner and unpack somewhere.
        2. Download this batch file and place it in the same directory as phoenix.exe.
        3. Right click the StartGPU0.bat and click EDIT.
        4. Change WORKERNAME and WORKERPASS. Close, save, and double click startgpu0.bat to start mining.
  3. You're done! Check out the pool Statistics to see how the pool is doing or visit your Dashboard to see your personal miner status.
  
  have a good idea? want to contribute to BitClockers.com?
  Check out the Pool Development Thread
  http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=481.0
  
  For Support:
  
  • For live support visit our IRC channel. chat.freenode.net: #bitclockers
  • For general questions, guides, and community information visit the BitClockers.com Mining Pool Forums
  • For private and all other inquiries contact: admin  (@t) bitclockers.com
  
  *NEWS:
  
  • Merged Mining with NameCoin is in BETA
    
  • Alternative Payment system 8% Pay Per Share will enter BETA starting with block # 650
  
  
  BITCOIN  RESOURCES
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  HOWTO  : OVERCLOCKING YOUR GRAPHICS CARD
  MISC  : SHOW US YAR MINIG RIG
  HOWTO  : START MINING
  SUPPORT  : LIVE CHAT
  METRICS  : DASHBOARD
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[backburn]

I wanted to take a moment and thank all those that have started mining for bitclockers.com. And more importantly those that have been providing invaluable feedback over the last few weeks. THANK YOU!
Overclocking community.  As you may already know, overclocking your graphics cards can boost performance in games. Similarly, overclocking will also allow you to mine more Bitcoins than anyone else with the same videocard; especially when done properly.

I have a couple questions for our users and prospective users:

• We currently use the simple Proportional Payout system. Would it be better to switch to a score based sytem like this? Pool hopping hasnt been an issue yet, and i already have the site programed to disable cheater's accounts. Is it still necessary to switch? Personally i think  user (shares/total shares) * BTC generated is the simplest and most fair.
• Bitclockers.com will be giving away several ASUS Video Cards and Motherboards starting in the month of June. We need ideas on how to fairly give these out. One card will be given away as a general raffle among all actively mining users. Another ASUS 6970 will be given out randomly to one lucky user in the top 10% of shares generated. We need your help with finding the best way to raffle the last ASUS 6970 and a ASUS Maximus III Extreme.
• We are almost done implimenting the Multiminer Protocol (MMP) written by CFSworks, as a more efficient alternative to Long Polling (LP). The question is who is going to use it? I certainly will be.  

BITCOIN  RESOURCES
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________

HOWTO  : OVERCLOCKING YOUR GRAPHICS CARD
MISC  : SHOW US YAR MINIG RIG
HOWTO  : START MINING
SUPPORT  : LIVE CHAT
METRICS  : DASHBOARD
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[backburn]

The Worker Watchdog is now available to BitClockers.com users. Your miners/workers can now be setup to notify you in the event that problems are encountered. Triggers can be defined, such as: hash rate, rejected shares, or last seen. Don't neglect your miners; know the second that there is a problem and start mining with BitClockers.com today!

We now have a logo thanks to a generous donor:

BITCOIN  RESOURCES
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________

HOWTO  : OVERCLOCKING YOUR GRAPHICS CARD
MISC  : SHOW US YAR MINIG RIG
HOWTO  : START MINING
SUPPORT  : LIVE CHAT
METRICS  : DASHBOARD
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[trumpetx]

Nice pool you have going there... I've added you to MinerStatus (Android App):

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=9668.0

[Xerxes]

Seems really nice!

Any ideas why I don't seem to get any hashrate on the webpage?
My worker has been working for almost an hour now, still saying 0 Mh/s.

[luffy]

very nice!
i will try it with 900Mh/s for now
edit:
for future implementations plz consider the https and the email verification for saving new wallet! 

[backburn]

Nice pool you have going there... I've added you to MinerStatus (Android App):

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=9668.0

Thank you sir! Great App you have going there, installing on my Droid Eris as we speak

Seems really nice!

Any ideas why I don't seem to get any hashrate on the webpage?
My worker has been working for almost an hour now, still saying 0 Mh/s.

What is your miner name and mining client. I don't see any errors on this end. Pop into Live Chat when you get a chance and I'd love to help you get started.

for future implementations plz consider the https and the email verification for saving new wallet! 

Luffy, you're totally right, we will force SSL to be standard for all pages/links soon. Until then, clicking the signin, and now register, will put you in SSL secure mode until you leave the site. So don't use the lazy login on the front page unless you have https://bitclockers.com  in your url.

[sanchaz]

i can't register since my email is from my own domain. i think you might have a restriction to @gmail.com or @hotmail.com etc, correct?

[backburn]

i can't register since my email is from my own domain. i think you might have a restriction to @gmail.com or @hotmail.com etc, correct?

For anonymity you may register with any email address  as long as it has an @ sign and a .
totallyfake@email.com  is valid.
But keep in mind, you will not be able to reset your password.

[Servando]

This one supports GUIMiner?
I've been overclocking for the last ten years so I could share or learn something with you guys if the pool works OK.

[luffy]

yes, the website is slow enough!
moreover i would like to see statistic page like deepbit's

[V2-V3]

This one supports GUIMiner?
I've been overclocking for the last ten years so I could share or learn something with you guys if the pool works OK.

Yes sir the Bitclockers.com pool supports GUIMiner here is the information you will need inorder to connect to the Pool

Host: Pool.BitClockers.com
Port: 8332
Enter your Miner/Worker "Username" and "Password"
Click start mining and you should see your current Hash rate if successfully connected.

GUIMiner is a Graphical User Interface for GPU Bitcoin mining, more convenient and easier to use for miners just getting started.
GUIMiner Direct Download Available Here
GUIMiner latest version or Linux Version available here


IF YOU ARE NEW TO BITCOIN MINING READ THE GETTING STARTED THREAD AVAILABLE HERE

1. Download GUIMiner
2. Extract file
3. launch GUIMiner
4. Configure GUIMiner
5. Happy Mining!

Here is what GUI Miner looks like:

For ATi Graphics cards update your graphics drivers here

*If you are using an AMD ATi Radeon 4000 Series card you will need to install the AMD APP SDK available here*

For NVIDIA Graphics cards update your graphics drivers here

How to use:

Extract and instead of running "poclbm.exe" (which runs the command line version), run "guiminer.exe". If you have OpenCL set up correctly this should launch the GUI. If you get an error about OpenCL, you need to install an OpenCL package from your GPU vendor. For AMD/ATI cards you can get OpenCL here.

Once the GUI is running, choose a pool and register if necessary from the pool website, then press "Start mining" to begin. Wait for the coins to come in and don't forget to donate

How to get help:

For technical support please post in this thread rather than sending me a PM; this will get you a reply sooner since other people than me can help you out. More information is better; with only a brief vague report we probably don't know enough to pinpoint your problem. Here's an example of a good report:

"When I try to start mining, I get "Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC" in the status bar and the miner doesn't start. I already checked that my bitcoin.conf contains the correct username and password. I am using:

GUIMiner version: v2011-06-09
Operating system: Windows XP SP3
Miner backend: OpenCL/poclbm
Video card: ATI 5770
Server: solo mining on Bitcoin client 0.3.22

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):

Q: Help! The program crashed or didn't work!
A: If you post a bug report in this thread a variety of helpful people including myself can try to fix your issue. We need to know at least the following: what version of Windows you're using, what graphics card you're using, what version of drivers you're using, what pool you're using if applicable, and a detailed description of what went wrong.

Q: How do I know if my graphics card (GPU) supports OpenCL or CUDA?
A: Try running GPU Caps Viewer. It will tell you what your GPU supports.

Q: How do I use the Phoenix/phatk miner?
A: Run GUIMiner as usual, then go File -> New other miner and navigate up one directory and pick phoenix.exe. Then enter your info as usual and start mining. For the Extra Flags you can enter any Phoenix flags such as VECTORS or -k phatk (see above screenshot) for an example, or see the BitCoin Mining Hardware Comparison Chart  thread for a full list of flags.

Q: What extra flags do I use?
A: If you have a Radeon 5xxx card (for example 5770, 5890), use '-v -w128'. On CPU you don't need any flags. For other cards ask around.

Q: My temperatures are too high, can I throttle the GPU so it runs slower but cooler?
A: If you are mining using OpenCL you can use the -s flag a value such as 0.01 in order to force the GPU to sleep for 0.01 seconds in between runs. Increase or decrease this value until you have the desired GPU utilization.

Q: Can I connect to more than one pool with the same GPU? For example have a main pool, and a backup pool in case the main one goes down?
A: Yes, you can use the -f flag for this. A value of -f60 or higher in the backup pool's miner will cause it to yield most of the GPU power to miners with a lower f value (default is 30).

Q: Is it normal that GUIMiner uses a lot of CPU when mining on the GPU?
A: No, for most people GUIMiner uses less than 1% of CPU. This is a poclbm issue some people are experiencing - see this post for more info.

Q: Do I need the official Bitcoin client to be open while mining?
A: Only if you are doing solo mining - in this case you are connecting to the client instead of a pool server.

Q: How does performance using the GUI compare to using the command line?
A: They should be identical; the GUI introduces virtually no overhead.

Q: How do I know if I'm getting a good hashing rate for my card?
A: See this topic for a comparison of various cards.

Q: How do I know how many Bitcoins I'll generate with my card?
A: See Bitcoin Mining Profitability Calculator to determine this.

Q: I installed OpenCL, but my GPU isn't showing up. Only my CPU is shown. What is the problem?
A: A couple people experienced this issue and were able to resolve it by installing a different driver version.

Q: How can I delete my miner settings, or edit them manually?
A: Miner settings are stored in %APPDATA%\Roaming\poclbm. For example, on Windows 7 this path translates to C:\Users\Kiv\AppData\Roaming\poclbm. The file poclbm.ini inside contains the settings in JSON format. There are also some settings in .ini files inside the miner directory, also in JSON format. No registry keys are used, so removing these .ini files completely erases your settings.

Q: How can I completely uninstall GUIMiner?
A: Remove the GUIMiner folder and the miner settings above, and that will completely remove GUIMiner.

Q: I want to see X feature in the miner. How can I have it?
A: I'm working on new features but I have a full time job and other things to do too - if you want to encourage me send donations to: 1MDDh2h4cAZDafgc94mr9q95dhRYcJbNQo

Q: What does it mean in the summary panel when the shares say something like 1000 (150) accepted?
A: That means 1000 shares total were accepted, including 150 in the last hour.

GPUMiner Graphics Card and CPU Miner Installation

Download the GUI Miner client direct download available here




latest version and older versions available here




Click  the "..." box to change the destination




If you need to you can scroll up to view "Desktop"




Select Desktop




Click "OK" to finish changing location




Click "Extract"




Open the newly extracted folder




Launch "guiminer.exe"




Click the carrot on the the server drop down box




Select "BitClockers.com" from the menu




Enter the username used when creating your worker on the BitClockers Dashboard




Enter the password used when creating your worker on the BitClockers Dashboard




Open the Device drop down menu to view available mining devices




Select "0-0" as your first device




Click start mining and you are up and running!

I find it convenient to right click on "guiminer.exe" and send a shortcut to the desktop



On the lower left you will see statistics for Shares "accepted" and the time of last accepted share. Also any error messages from the client will be displayed here.

On the lower right you will see your current "Hash" rate in Mhash/s (Million Hashes per second)

If you like GUIMiner think about donating to Kiv the creator for creating this easy to use miner!

_______________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________

Bitcoin Installation Guide
GUIMiner Installation Guide
Overclocking your graphics card
Multi GPU Mining Guide
Phoenix GPU Miner Installation Guide
Phoenix and GUIMiner Bitcoin Mining Hardware Comparison Guide
Bitcoin FAQ

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[backburn]

We've broken 12 GHashes!

The statistics page is terribad slow right now. I am busy optimizing it as we speak. Keep in mind, the way BitClockers.com is setup, no matter how bad the website gets mining will be unaffected. As soon as we get stats fixed up we will bring pool2.bitclockers.com online.
pool2 and pool are combined, so you may mine on one, the other , or both. More details soon.

[backburn]

We're now fully redundant with  15min backups
Multiple pools are now available to connect to:

pool.bitclockers.com - Denver, CO USA
pool2.bitclockers.com - Chicago, IL USA
pool3.bitclockers.com - Zlin, Czech Republic

You can mine on one or all, its all the same.
I recommend picking the closest pool to you. Then set one of the others as a failover if one goes down. Or you can spread your miners around for even better redundancy.

[backburn]

Pushing 1.2ghash your way.  Would love to see a more responsive site, but I'm sure that's planned.

We are currently rewriting the way statistics on the site are handled. With our new decentralized setup we have to make many of changes to our SQL statements and even database schema. But its all for the good, we now have 3 pools spread over the world all combined for statistics/validation. No reason to failover to other pools in the event of an issue.

We are working through the night and will have the site zip zoomin ASAP.

[backburn]

I also seem to be getting a huge amount of stale shares (about 10 times more than with any other pool).  Perhaps this is location based, but I thought it prudent to inform you.

Long polling was broken this morning. Everything should be 100% now. Blkmond wasnt doing its job. I wrote our own block monitor script and its working perfectly now. Sorry for the troubles :O

[Bitcoineruk]

Ok, sorted, love the website layout and how you actually have stats on there, its only 810mh/s but its yours for now

[Bitcoineruk]

Also, how come im not appearing on the front page of miners? - woot, found a new block too

[V2-V3]

Also, how come im not appearing on the front page of miners? - woot, found a new block too

Backburn and Artemis temporarily disabled some of the stats including the pagination. There are multiple pages but you cant see them right now to reduce time opening the page. They are working to make a faster version that scales with more users. Look forward to graphs as well as a significant reduction in load time.

[Bitcoineruk]

Thanks for the reply, can you answer why nothing is showing in my account balance? i noticed we solved another block and its been well over an hour since that was done but still nothing in my account?

[V2-V3]

What is your username on Bitclockers.com pool? Backburn can take a look ans see whats up.

[backburn]

Thanks for the reply, can you answer why nothing is showing in my account balance? i noticed we solved another block and its been well over an hour since that was done but still nothing in my account?

All coins seem to have been paid out correctly for the last block. Private message me your account name and workers that were active during the last block and ill credit you if there was an error.

[luffy]

you have to fix the instant payout functionality. it is essential to mining

[Bitcoineruk]

You are correct, the new block was added to the site yesterday, however, from the date, it was found the day before My mistake, apologies

[Bitcoineruk]

I cant sign in to the website?

[Bitcoineruk]

Cant believe this is on the 3rd page, pool has so much promise and no one seems to be biting

[Bitcoineruk]

Yup, and the hash speed is miles off, added a 5970 to the 6990 on a different computer and hasrate is sticking around 831 / 900 but miners reporting 800 mh/s for the 6990 and around 650mh/s for the 5970 (1250mh/s)

Site seems to be getting faster however

[luffy]

instant payouts are working now but whatis this?
Current Balance: -5.65525094 BTC
what "-" stands for? 

[Bitcoineruk]

The guys have been working on the site, making speed improvements, setting up user stats, the hash rate now seems to be back to what it should be (there or thereabouts)

They also have a live chat on the site which is handy https://bitclockers.com/?action=livechat

[Bitcoineruk]

My balance hasnt been updated, it shows 0.0, and ive just heard that others have been paid, please kindly tell us whats happening as i contributed the 2nd most amount of shares to that block we found last night.

worker gpu1 and gpu2 - login ph123uk

EDIT: Also just added a 5970, 2 x 6970's and 2 x 5770's so hash rate should go up a lil more

[V2-V3]

you have to fix the instant payout functionality. it is essential to mining

Instant Payout has been fixed also the minimum payout has been lowered from .50BTC to .10BTC

Half the stats on this site have been broken for 4 days, and with the last block solved I only received about 1/2 of what was estimated.  Is there even any work being done on this pool?  Would be nice to actually see some support.

The stats page has been updated and now responds faster and stats are able to be sorted by Worker/Rate/Shares/dates
Worker hash rate now most accurately reflects current hash rate for individual workers.

[Jine]

Why are you even using SSL when the login goes over an unencrypted connection?

Code:

<form action="http://bitclockers.com/?action=signin&cmd=auth" method="post">

Lol.

[V2-V3]

Why are you even using SSL when the login goes over an unencrypted connection?

Code:

<form action="http://bitclockers.com/?action=signin&cmd=auth" method="post">

Lol.

Then do not use the lazy login on the front page. We did not want to force all clients to use SSL for the portal page. Please connect to the site using HTTPS or click Sign In at the top right of the page to access the secure login.

[Jine]

Why don't you just set the POST to the HTTPS-page instead of HTTP?
I think 80-90% of your users will use the login they see on the portal page, instead of using links or changing the URL manually.

[V2-V3]

Why don't you just set the POST to the HTTPS-page instead of HTTP?
I think 80-90% of your users will use the login they see on the portal page, instead of using links or changing the URL manually.

This was discussed earlier in our IRC chat and The intent was not to force all users to use SSL, the current configuration allows the optional use of SSL.

[V2-V3]

UPDATE: Mining at 20+ GigaHash/s!!!!!

Just setup 3 5870's and one 5970 on a Rampage III Extreme Motherboard, pulling 1050W from wall 2Ghash rig

[V2-V3]

Update:

Just passed 120 Users and 30Ghash/s

[backburn]

Live stats are now available at our IRC channel; #bitclockers on freenode.net. Access live chat with your own IRC client by clicking irc://chat.freenode.net/bitclockers or you can join at BitClockers.com Live Chat.

[evobigboi]

I've started my mining with this pool, A+ site and no down time!

1.4Ghash/s is coming from me

[CovertAudit]

I just joined up with my 3.6Ghash/s loving it here, good crew
bet part is the late night IRC chats

[backburn]

Thank you for the praise!

The BitClockers API has been updated, statistics are now in real time.
You can find your personal API key on the Dashboard.

The IRC Bot has more commands available to better serve you. Join #bitclockers on chat.freenode.net and say 'commands' sans the quotes in the channel. You can also join the IRC chat with your browser.

[Boofus]

Bitclockers is a pretty good pool so far they are making some good improvements and im really impressed but this is my first pool and quite possibly my only pool. and yeah fix the login portal or remove it and have it as a link the main login page. xD

[Lightspeed]

guys, i have to say

Getting paid to overclock is awesome. Lifetime geek and lover of overclocking.

This is the new pool for me, eff to 10% fee

[Lightspeed]

1 Ghash/s on bitclockers now

get it to 100Ghash/s go go go

[V2-V3]

I just want to thank all of you who have chosen to use BitClockers as a pool
Thanks you you we are now over 200 members strong and growing!

[backburn]

Quick update: Long block doldrums suck, the block shouldn't go past 3mill from looking at all the other long blocks this difficulty. Any more shares and well have better chances of getting hit my lightning twice.  We're working on a bonus for all of our veterans who've stuck through the variance. Thank you for being patient!

[V2-V3]

Block from hell found!

2,302,192 Shares total and found by: Boofus


Cheers to Boofus! of finding his first block!

[backburn]

Of course, as soon as i said something we solved it

[V2-V3]

Yikes BTC took a tumble down to $10....

looks like  a good time to buy tho.

[backburn]

Back up to 21

[airdata]

*mining 1.5Gh @ pool.bitclockers.com*

[V2-V3]

BitClockers.com Mining Pool breaks 50Ghash/s and 300 Users!

[V2-V3]

Total WOOT for huge lucky streak on quick blocks this week!

got to love Karma!!!

[Tunes0710]

Broken the 70GHash barrier :-)

[backburn]

80GHashes!

Ive updated our database back-end cluster to encompass 5 servers now. High availability and high performance nom noms

Totally overkill at the moment but hey, Our current 80GHash is about 1% load on the new setup

[NLCJ]

It's amazing! We killed 7 blocks in the past 3 days! Really going fast, I got more than 1.3 BTC of those blocks!

Pure awesomeness!

[V2-V3]

400 Users barrier broken ~90Ghash/s and ~500,000 shares Average Block

[airdata]

Things are heating up!

Lots of growth this week, great last few days.  Come hash with us ^^

[Tunes0710]

And we have cookies! :-)

[V2-V3]

Extra luck on the BitClockers mining pool as average shares per block is: "466,470."

[kiwiasian]

Extra luck on the BitClockers mining pool as average shares per block is: "466,470."

Not as good as Swepool's luck yesterday
192030, 4211, and 270744 shares per block yesterday at 30 GH/s
Man, I made 4 BTC.

Anyways...
No block statistics?

[V2-V3]

Damn 4K shares? that is a lucky block!

[backburn]

We've hit 100 GHashes!

A Block Monitor is now available in our IRC chat channel. BitBot will announce all blocks found by the pool to the channel. The bot currently reports the block number, amount of shares, time, and miner who found the block.

Come join us at #bitclockers @ freenode.net

[V2-V3]

Bitclockers Mining Pool has broken the 500 Workers Mark!

[pippipcheerio]

I don't think instant payout is currently working, I clicked it and I haven't received anything in my bitcoin wallet.

[backburn]

I don't think instant payout is currently working, I clicked it and I haven't received anything in my bitcoin wallet.

I just did a test payment and everything seems to be in order. Are you sure you've been mining long enough for a block to be found? You wont get a payout until a block is found, your payout is based on your percentage of work on that block. Visit the Support Forums and post if this is not the case and one of the admins will gladly reconcile your account.

[backburn]

The website and database are now 100% migrated to the cloud! The site is now silly fast and protected from most DDoS and injection attacks

KEEP IN MIND: As always you should use pool.bitclockers.com to connect with your miners. Just using bitclockers.com will point your miner nowhere. pool.bitclockers.com will automatically put your miner on the fastest server available to you.

[Earthlite Organics]

I'm having trouble accessing your website.

Cloudflare says there is an error...I was trying to log in to see my progress.


Thanks,
Shfink

[backburn]

Web server will be down for another hour or so. In the mean time, you can still get live stats from the IRC channel #bitclockers on freenode.net

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[backburn]

Website is up and stable.

[pippipcheerio]

I've already earned a heavy 0.30BTC. This website does pay, and is very polite and helpful when in need.

Happy mining

[V2-V3]

Forums updated, now load incredibly fast!

[Meatball]

Has the website been down for a while, or is it just me?

Edit: And back up.

[backburn]

Has the website been down for a while, or is it just me?

The web servers were down from 6:20am to 10:00am my time.   We managed to crack a 3million share block and the sheer amount of data caused problems with one of our database triggers. This broke replication between the database cluster servers.

In other words, the site choked on the giant block. We found the problem and now everything is fixed and shouldn't happen again

-bb

[V2-V3]

I want to thank everyone who has supported the pool, without all of you we would not be here!

[backburn]

Some updates to report:

• New data points have been added to the API.
• Graphs have been added to the dashboard; see how you stack up against the pool.
• Our friendly IRC bot has received new brain matter; new commands are now available.

[redd]

Due to Payout-Problems at Deepbit I switch to BitClockers now. So Happy Mining all together

[Wuked]

Hey Guys,

Are you sure your statistics are correct?

Code:

Current Round Started:	Mon, Jun 20th, 11:37:29 am
Current Round Duration:	23 hours
Current Round Shares:	1,211,172

23 hours to do 1.2M shares doesn't seem to be 92.3GH/sec like it says on your site?

I would estimate more like 50GH/sec ?

[backburn]

Are you sure your statistics are correct?

Thanks for the heads up. We had a large drop in hashrate during the preceding block from hell (impatient people). But just in case, I rechecked the top left "live stats" code for any problems and setup a low weight on users with low hash counts (under 50mhash). Because workers with slower hardware may only end up only submitting a share once or twice during the 10min average period. This would sometimes cause their hash rate to be higher than it should be. This change should cut down the global hash rate variance and get us to a closer MH/s estimation.
Keep in mind, hashrates on any pool, are at best, a guess and can vary greatly. Always use shares over time as a metric of performance.

Also keep in mind that payouts etc... are only based on shares. MH/s is purely for entertainment

[V2-V3]

Due to Payout-Problems at Deepbit I switch to BitClockers now. So Happy Mining all together

Thanks for joining us its much appreciated! Let us know if there is anything we can help you with.

[hawks5999]

bitclockers is a great pool with a great community. Glad I found you.

[V2-V3]

bitclockers is a great pool with a great community. Glad I found you.

hawks, Thanks for joining us!

Dont forget to check out the forums or join us on the IRC channel.

[backburn]

Some updates:

• New graphs have been added to the Statistics page.
• A sortable/customizable graph will be available later today.
• SOme speeling errors a t/ypos fixed

[V2-V3]

Backburn,

Thank you for adding the graphs, totally uber!

[hawks5999]

Lots of great work on the statistics and graphs. I love that the work was done to make the backend solid before just slapping on a pretty face. But now that pretty face is coming along too. BitClockers is the total package.

[V2-V3]

Lots of great work on the statistics and graphs. I love that the work was done to make the backend solid before just slapping on a pretty face. But now that pretty face is coming along too. BitClockers is the total package.

People just don't know what BitClockers has to offer until they join the pool. Once you go BitClockers you never go back!

[redd]

People just don't know what BitClockers has to offer until they join the pool. Once you go BitClockers you never go back!

so true! I joined 32h ago. Never had this stunning low Stale Rate and high Payout/day before on ANY other Mining Pool! Love You BitClockers!

[V2-V3]

We pride ourselves on having the best possible pool for our miners. We have invested countless man hours into keeping stale shares to a minimum and providing the best possible system up time.

Depending on your location you can try any one of our 3 redundant pools to reduce stale shares.

pool.bitclockers.com 8332 Denver
pool2.bitclockers.com 8332 Chicago
pool3.bitclockers.com 8332 Czech Republic

[lolcat]

Hey guys, finally out of the newbie section.
bump :3

[V2-V3]

Hey guys, finally out of the newbie section.
bump :3

Congrats for moving up in the world!

and welcome aboard! Glad to have you here.

[lolcat]

I love this pool so much!

[V2-V3]

Dashboard graphs are updated and look very sexy!

Miner stats page also updated for your enjoyment.

Please let us know of any additions you would like to see on the site.

[lolcat]

Some sort of achievement system would be cool to have.

[hawks5999]

Please let us know of any additions you would like to see on the site.

Payout directly to wallet address (ie - on another pool I received the coins in my wallet as Generated vs. sent)
Payout transaction history/ledger
Link to blockexplorer for discovered blocks
Historical average trending. The current average line on statistics page doesn't track where the average has been.
Longer timeout for logins

But the site and the service is really working spectacularly. As more people come online with BitClockers I think the stability and resilience of this pool will really shine!

[lolcat]

They see me postin'
They hatin'
Lurkin' they tryin' catch me bumpin' dirty.

[lolcat]

Just popped out another block! Woo

[hawks5999]

It's great to be part of a pool where you can get a decent percentage. This is a great solid pool for actually getting paid BTC!

[Tx2000]

New to the pool today.  Took my computer offline for a few hours to ghetto rig my gfx card with a new old heatsink.  Some snips, zipties and dual 120mm fans later, I got my VDDC down from 100c+ to 75c, core load temps from 90c to 65c.

Going to see if I can overclock it a bit further now.  I did lose a lot of ground but I am sure in the long run the down time will pay off.

EDIT:  Well, managed to get my 5850 from 860core to 930 stable.  I was able to get higher but my VDDC temps were hitting close to 115c.  340Mhash to 370Mhash.  I'll take it 

[lolcat]

Been mining the last 2 days now. No sleep.

[V2-V3]

2300 Liters of Liquid nitrogen on standby for a weekend of Overclocking





Imagine the has rate of a 6990 on LN2 @ 1700MHz per core

[Keninishna]

I think you could make it so that any new miners are not allowed to join for the first 15 minutes of a new block. This would mitigate pool hoppers. Anyone mining the previous block will of course be allowed to continue mining.

[Tx2000]

Seem to be getting a bit high on the stale shares 3318 - 111.

Which is odd, though, because the dashboard only says 17 rejected.

[hawks5999]

Seem to be getting a bit high on the stale shares 3318 - 111.

Which is odd, though, because the dashboard only says 17 rejected.

Might be a problem with your client. for last hour I'm showing 317 - 9

[lolcat]

same problem, last night I went like 200 - 700

[hawks5999]

Lolcat what kind of percentage do you usually get on stales.

BTW, the changes to the Dashboard are SUPERB. It's like you guys have really studied usability. Most pool dashboards seem to suck. Bitclockers pool is shaping up to be the most miner friendly pool out there! Keep it up guys.

Oh and the security of the GAuthenticator is World Class! No fear of getting my account at all! And I've yet to see any downtime.

[lolcat]

I'm not sure this is the first pool I've mined on.. I'm assuming its a hardware issue.

[backburn]

More updates today, just listing the major changes.

• NEW SECURITY OPTION: Google Authenticator!!  Protect your account with 2-factor authentication.
• New Speedometer graph; your hashrate versus the pools average worker hashrate.
• Updated various graphs; new average, percentages, more data!

[backburn]

LIVE CUSTOM GRAPHS: The large main graph on the Statistics page has been updated; it is now sort-able per your selection in the table.

[gentakin]

Hey backburn,

did you receive my PN? 

[V2-V3]

Live Stream of the ASUS ROG Formula X Event in Sunnyvale California

Im Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking on cam 4

[backburn]

More updates:

• API Updated; Added more data points such as: estimated earnings, current block, pool stales, last round shares
• Various code refactoring and speedups.

Hey backburn, did you receive my PN?  

Sure did, replied, thank you! p.s. I'll have it switched over to POST soon.

[grue]

did anyone notice a XSS vector on one of the pages?

[gentakin]

did anyone notice a XSS vector on one of the pages?

I did, on the dashboard and reported it to backburn. It seems to be fixed now, in a funny way (it's not printing out my input with > and < and other "bad chars" replaced with &lt; and &gt;, instead, they completely vanish now ).

So.. thanks for fixing it backburn.

[backburn]

Really hackish method for error handling, will be invisible tonight

[hawks5999]

Great work Backburn on all the site improvements. This pool is getting better all the time. People that are serious about mining could do no better than hooking up with bitclockers. The payouts are great and the community is awesome!

[V2-V3]

Backburn thank you for adding the new graphs to the dashboard and the graphs on the stats page are just awesome!

Keep up the great work!

[mmortal03]

Is there a reason why you guys aren't showing up on the pie chart at bitcoinwatch.com?

[V2-V3]

Is there a reason why you guys aren't showing up on the pie chart at bitcoinwatch.com?

I don't know but they should add us, We have been around much longer and are bigger than a few of the other listed pools...

[lolcat]

Mmm! Really nice new graphs.

[mmortal03]

Is there a reason why you guys aren't showing up on the pie chart at bitcoinwatch.com?

I don't know but they should add us, We have been around much longer and are bigger than a few of the other listed pools...

I just e-mailed them about it.  They said all they need is a URL which returns the hashrate in MHash/s that they can query
once per minute.

[backburn]

I just e-mailed them about it.  They said all they need is a URL which returns the hashrate in MHash/s that they can query
once per minute.

Like our API that we have had for months @ http://bitclockers.com/api/

I'll make a non standard bitclcokers.com/api/poolmhs/ for them if that is what it takes.

[Jine]

Just contact them and they'll add it. Add a link to your hash/s or mhash/s in the mail.
I did, and we got in the chart in no-time

Same goes for all other bitcoin-related charts/websites.

[lolcat]

Whoa! I looked last night and there was a new graph, now this morning an even newer graph

[lolcat]

Just contact them and they'll add it. Add a link to your hash/s or mhash/s in the mail.
I did, and we got in the chart in no-time

Same goes for all other bitcoin-related charts/websites.

Like Bitclockers.com/API?

I have been using it for about a month to watch the status of my miners from my DROID phone

[V2-V3]

Whoa! I looked last night and there was a new graph, now this morning an even newer graph

Ya I was overclocking down in California and I see a lot of work has been done to the site! Very impressed thank you Backburn and Artemis!

[lolcat]

Such a sexy dashboard!

[hawks5999]

I've just been doing some calculations on on my payouts through BitClockers since I started compared with other pools and PPS payouts. In 7 days I made 1 BTC more than I would have with any PPS pool. And in that same 7 days there have been so many improvements to the site, the graphs. Awesome mining with this pool!

[V2-V3]

4x 5870's just arrived in the mail installed them in a 4U rack w/ 850w Corsair power supply and overclocked each card to 925mhz core 600hz ram
about 5 hours later the PSU exploded like a gun shot! current draw from the wall was 700 watts AC

I replaced the dead corsair PSU with an Antec 1200 Watt High Current Pro and the system is back to rocking! thought i killed 4 of my gpu's but all is good now

Im going to recommend any 4GPU setup have a 1200 Watt power supply

[hawks5999]

4x 5870's just arrived in the mail installed them in a 4U rack w/ 850w Corsair power supply and overclocked each card to 925mhz core 600hz ram
about 5 hours later the PSU exploded like a gun shot! current draw from the wall was 700 watts AC

I replaced the dead corsair PSU with an Antec 1200 Watt High Current Pro and the system is back to rocking! thought i killed 4 of my gpu's but all is good now

Im going to recommend any 4GPU setup have a 1200 Watt power supply

Amen to that. I had 4x6790 and had 1000W - no dice, no boot. I could get three running but had to borrow a fourth power draw from my neighboring 1200W CM SilentPro Gold.

Two more 1200W's arrived today so I'm repowering everything and bringing up the last of my 11 cards.

[jdebunt]

site does look awesome at the moment, good job

[V2-V3]

Take a look at the new Pool Worker Count graph

http://bitclockers.com/statistics

[jdebunt]

Take a look at the new Pool Worker Count graph

http://bitclockers.com/statistics

amazing, absolutely love it

[hawks5999]

We're cresting over the 125 GH/s threshold. And good luck is all queued up and ready for us. Full speed ahead!

[V2-V3]

Approaching the 130Ghash mark!

[hawks5999]

Approaching the 130Ghash mark!

I'm just doing my part with my 3Gh/s

[lolcat]

Been mining with 30Mhash/s on Bitclockers since I heard about it a few weeks ago, woooo!

[V2-V3]

2nd Power supply this week blew up!

1200W Thermaltake died.... Replaced it with a 1200W Coolermaster and hoping for the best!

[lolcat]

2nd Power supply this week blew up!

1200W Thermaltake died.... Replaced it with a 1200W Coolermaster and hoping for the best!

You had a bad day bro

[V2-V3]

2nd Power supply this week blew up!

1200W Thermaltake died.... Replaced it with a 1200W Coolermaster and hoping for the best!

You had a bad day bro

Total bad day but tomorrow is a new day!

[BkkCoins]

Does Bitclockers payout a remaining balance after a period of inactivity?
I mean when it doesn't reach the 0.10 level. Or is it considered a donation?

I may be gone for a while. Not unhappy with BitClockers but wondering what happens.

[Boing7898]

Does Bitclockers payout a remaining balance after a period of inactivity?
I mean when it doesn't reach the 0.10 level. Or is it considered a donation?

I may be gone for a while. Not unhappy with BitClockers but wondering what happens.

Same question. Does it pay to 8 decimal places or the minimum is 0.01?

[Tx2000]

They pay to 8 decimals, or at least they did a couple of days ago when I requested payment.

[rearwheels]

Hey guys,

Just want to let you guys know that I've added BitClockers to the list of pools you can monitor in one page at www.btc-poolwatch.com

No registration or login required. Just enter your API key and it will last until you next clear your browser cookies.

Please let me know if you have any feedback. (Discussion forum link in my signature).

Tks!

[hawks5999]

Here are several of my last instant payment amounts:
+1.0141204
+1.093591
+1.02038679
+1.0508418

So it looks like they'll payout everything you earn.

[lolcat]

Woo! Post got stickied!
We can haz moar people nao! ^.^

[V2-V3]

Hey guys,

Just want to let you guys know that I've added BitClockers to the list of pools you can monitor in one page at www.btc-poolwatch.com

No registration or login required. Just enter your API key and it will last until you next clear your browser cookies.

Please let me know if you have any feedback. (Discussion forum link in my signature).

Tks!

Thanks for the add! Much appreciated.

[BkkCoins]

Hey, I was just signing in on bitclockers.com and got a certificate warning.
Apparently your cert has changed again.
Now says issued by "GlobalSign" not "GeoTrust" which issues RapidSSL (the logo on the page).
Does this make sense? Seems to change a lot lately, and when it does I always get worried someone is doing something malicious. There's no point in security if you ignore the warnings...

[V2-V3]

The different Cert you see is from the CDN (Content Delivery Network) don't be alarmed.

[lolcat]

Bitclockers is so sick, it gave me swine flu.

I'm totally selling the pool to people in the Newbies section, people adore Bitclockers ^_^

[tobma]

Hey guys,

very nice tutorial on page 1
I think this will help all newbies to start mining on their own cpu or gpu.

Because of that BitClockers.com has a new member, me

I'm working with a very very small gpu with only 8 Mhash, hope I will get some BTC in corp. with BitClockers.com
If you want to help me to grow please send a small donation to me. This would be very nice.

best wishes
tobma

[lolcat]

Thank you! Tobma!

Good luck mining

Questions? Use the IRC channel on the pool's website, or ask in the forums.

[BkkCoins]

Just wanted to let the admins know that I've been seeing very long page load times for the signin page here. Not sure if that is the same for all because I'm in Asia region. Almost every time in the last couple days getting a signin page takes over a minute and sometimes times out. I don't think your CDN works well here, or maybe there's some other problem?

Just a heads up.

Edit: after login seems to be much better.

Almost 4 millions shares? Sigh. We better get some good ones after this last couple.

[duhman]

Hey,

I joined the pool today. Everything was fine until now when I need to sign in. The password doesn't work anymore ( yes, i use the right one ). The weird thing is that if I use " Forgot password option", I can't log in with the newly generated pass either. Can someone please explain what's wrong?

Thanks,
Duhman

[backburn]

The ticket list for next weeks Video Card Mineaway drawing has been posed at: http://bitclockers.com/files/workerticketsjune2011.html

Write down your ticket ranges for the LIVE drawing next Friday!

... I can't log in with the newly generated pass either. Can someone please explain what's wrong? ...

Send one of the admins in our Live Chat a message or post in our Support Forums. We'd be happy to get you going

[backburn]

Details for the BitClockers Mineaway Video Card Giveaway - July 2011 have been posted.

Mine with BitClockers.com and you could win a kickass ATI Videocard!

[alexmat]

Do you have a listing of the pool server loads? Which pool should I point new rigs at?

[backburn]

Do you have a listing of the pool server loads? Which pool should I point new rigs at?

Not necessary, our proxy picks the right pool for you automatically when you use pool.bitclockers.com

You can use pool2 for Chicago and pool3 for EU if you need more granularity.
I do need to get a server status page up. I'll tackle that here soon.

[alexmat]

Thanks. Great experience so far.

I prefer a little more minimalism for my UI, but "in the eye of the beholder" and all that. I do like the graphs and stats, but the rest of the interface is a little gaudy.

Also, if you ever get around to it, and OpenID login option would be awesome.

[lolcat]

WOOT! BitClockers just broke 130GHash!

[V2-V3]

Mining pool is growing and will soon be tearing through the blocks!!!!! 

[hawks5999]

And based on probabilities, the worst blocks are behind you for awhile. Now's a good time to get in and get some quick scores with BitClockers.

[lolcat]

And based on probabilities, the worst blocks are behind you for awhile. Now's a good time to get in and get some quick scores with BitClockers.

Good call! Blocks are not flowing out! Log jam cleared!   

on a side note I see the pool approaching 150GHash/s

[V2-V3]

Im getting the least mining downtime here out of any other pool!

[lolcat]

Im getting the least mining downtime here out of any other pool!

I agree, I don't know why there are not more people using this pool, I <3 BitClockers Mining Pool

[hawks5999]

With deepbit and btcguild getting ddos'd so much bitclockers looks like the best alternative. I can't remember a single instance of pool downtime. Goes back to you focusing on the important stuff first. Good job guys...

[backburn]

The pool backend has been updated; some fixes to our memcache implementation. The best pool just got a whole lot better! Look for stales to drop by half. Large scale miners, over 5 GHash, will have an extreme improvement in LP performance.

[vivithemage]

Are you guys DDoS Protected?

[kiwiasian]

9 GH/s..?

[vivithemage]

I just noticed you're using FDC ... not sure anymore, LOL.

[lolcat]

I'm seeing alot of work being done to the site

crazy coders FTW

[V2-V3]

Huge jump in hashing power and user base today! glad to see some new faces

[lolcat]

Hmmm I wonder where those people came from?

Go Bitclockers (:

[lolcat]

Well hello 200GHash/s i didn't expect to see you waking up this morning!

[V2-V3]

214 GHash/s and nearly 820 Workers!!!! http://bitclockers.com/statistics

[backburn]

Yey for breaking 200Ghash!  

On a less pleasant note: Our webservers have been under a DDoS attack for several days, fortunately our content delivery network banned their botnet zombies as fast as they threw them at us.The jerks finally gave up on trying to kill our website and have resorted to flooding our pushpool servers with bad login requests and simple syn flooding.

I spent the night writing a work around; everything should be fine now and idles should no longer be reported in your clients.

[accod]

Thanks for the hard work and for keeping us informed, much appreciated.

[lolcat]

Daaayyyyyuuuummm!

Lot's of blocks poppin' out these last few days

[xtoro]

Hey Backburn, is Pool3 in the Czech Republic running nicely?

I wasn't aware there was more options to connect to... It would be nice to connect to something closer (I'm in Germany)

[Meatball]

Hey Back, are you guys having to pay for these Radeon's out of pocket or are you getting them through a sponsor or something?  I'd hate to think you guys are stuck footing the bill and fees aren't covering everything...

[lolcat]

From what I understand, V2 is donating the cards for the giveaways.

[Meatball]

Ah, nice!  Thanks V2!

[lolcat]

I just watched him order it

[V2-V3]

Hey Back, are you guys having to pay for these Radeon's out of pocket or are you getting them through a sponsor or something?  I'd hate to think you guys are stuck footing the bill and fees aren't covering everything...

I ordered the card from newegg and donated it to the pool. I really want to see the pool grow and am trying to attract some more attention to bitclockers.

[lolcat]

I'm workin' hard for that 6950

[OCedHrt]

Are there still block payout issues on BitClockers?

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/48

Most of the workers did not get paid.

And I have a total of 6607 shares for total earnings of ~0.16766873. That's a really bad rate per share. I know the pool isn't PPS, but are we that unlucky? At average luck we should be getting close to 0.00003198/share but I'm only getting 0.00002538/share.

Seems like terrible luck.

A total of 22774221 shares for the last 13 blocks. That's 0.00002854/share. Or 1751863 shares/block. And 48428226 for the last 25 blocks. That's even worse at 1937129 shares/block.

[backburn]

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/48

Most of the workers did not get paid.

Block was so fast it didn't hit the update balance trigger. Was caught and automatically fixed within a few hours. You are good to go

As far as terrible luck, donno what to say. I think the current graph says it all:



Current block average is 73,000 shares under difficulty (1,563,027) for a luck of +4.67%

[burp]

Bitclockers is basically unusable for me. I'm getting very high variances on the pool connectivity (which happens nowhere else).. changes from 1/2 to 10 seconds.

Code:

% httping -h pool.bitclockers.com -p 8332                                                         [21:08:03]
PING pool.bitclockers.com:8332 (http://pool.bitclockers.com:8332/):
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=0 time=969.53 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=1 time=905.77 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=2 time=1097.10 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=3 time=773.19 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=4 time=634.67 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=5 time=926.27 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=6 time=786.47 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=7 time=578.01 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=8 time=4005.03 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=9 time=931.53 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=10 time=1148.74 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=11 time=3763.78 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=12 time=885.18 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=13 time=1049.96 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=14 time=983.03 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=15 time=874.24 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=16 time=3808.05 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=17 time=9919.28 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=18 time=978.05 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=19 time=971.40 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=20 time=803.95 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=21 time=902.08 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=22 time=3945.37 ms
connected to pool.bitclockers.com:8332, seq=23 time=981.57 ms

ICMP ping is at stable 220ms, so this is defenitely a problem on your side

[backburn]

Burp: Try pool2.bitclockers.com or pool3.bitclockers.com on your miners. Might be closer to you.

[burp]

Burp: Try pool2.bitclockers.com or pool3.bitclockers.com on your miners. Might be closer to you.

Thanks, pool2 and pool3 have no such issues for me I'm sure though this isn't a distance-latency issue, as the ICMP ping is low for all pools.

PS: Are you sure the pool hashrate display is correct?

Live Statistics
Hash Rate: 245.60 Gh/s
Active Workers: 633
Shares This Round: 198,229
Current Round Duration:   1 hours 11 minutes

198229*2^32 / (71*60) / 10^9 = 199.856120215677

[V2-V3]

Hash rate is a 15 min average  not an average of the entire round

[Wuked]

Hash rate is a 15 min average  not an average of the entire round

Even so, your calculations are wrong unless you aren't using difficulty of 1.

Your site has been showing over 250GH/sec for the last few hours...

Active Workers:   625  (last 10 minutes)
Current Round Started:   Thu, Jul 14th, 02:42:42 pm
Current Round Duration: 1 hours 43 minutes
Current Round Shares:   269,442

269442 *2^32 / (103*60) / 10^9 = 187 GH/sec average over the last block.

So how can you average 187GH/sec over a period of this block of 1hr 43 minutes, when you are reporting an average of 250GH/sec every 15 minutes ?

I did raise this point already on the 22nd of June! : http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10127.msg258618#msg258618

[lodcrappo]

Hey I'm finally not on noob restriction, just thought I'd add that this is a good pool with very helpful folks.
Been quite pleased with it.

[CrazyGuy]

Wow, awesome day for the bitClockers pool!!! 6 blocks in one day with about 265gh/s average. I am mining at around 750 mh/s and this is the first time I've ever made 1BTC in a day. Looks like bitclockers took all the other pools' luck today. Here's to hoping the luck continues.

Jine:  Isn't it funny how everybody starts questioning the functionality of the pool during bad luck, but never bother to ask if the pool is "really solving all these blocks" when having great luck? 

I'll bite, is bitclockers really solving all these blocks today??

If anyone is looking for a new pool I highly suggest bitclockers, they really put some thought into the interface and provide some great personal and group graphs/charts and statistics. Plus they give away a free graphics card each month!

[V2-V3]

Hash rate is a 15 min average  not an average of the entire round

Even so, your calculations are wrong unless you aren't using difficulty of 1.

Your site has been showing over 250GH/sec for the last few hours...

Active Workers:   625  (last 10 minutes)
Current Round Started:   Thu, Jul 14th, 02:42:42 pm
Current Round Duration: 1 hours 43 minutes
Current Round Shares:   269,442

269442 *2^32 / (103*60) / 10^9 = 187 GH/sec average over the last block.

So how can you average 187GH/sec over a period of this block of 1hr 43 minutes, when you are reporting an average of 250GH/sec every 15 minutes ?

I did raise this point already on the 22nd of June! : http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10127.msg258618#msg258618

umm, I was playing with my miners today and had been watching the hash rate of the pool and my aggregate miners constantly. I have seen the hash rate bounce up and down a lot not as the solid 250GH you are claiming. It was over 300GHash at the start of the block but when the pool hoppers pull out the hash rate gets volatile

[lolcat]

Wow, awesome day for the bitClockers pool!!! 6 blocks in one day with about 265gh/s average. I am mining at around 750 mh/s and this is the first time I've ever made 1BTC in a day. Looks like bitclockers took all the other pools' luck today. Here's to hoping the luck continues.

Jine:  Isn't it funny how everybody starts questioning the functionality of the pool during bad luck, but never bother to ask if the pool is "really solving all these blocks" when having great luck? 

I'll bite, is bitclockers really solving all these blocks today??

If anyone is looking for a new pool I highly suggest bitclockers, they really put some thought into the interface and provide some great personal and group graphs/charts and statistics. Plus they give away a free graphics card each month!

Go BitClockers!

[digger]

you site has been included in this site

who find the bitcoin blocks?

http://digbtc.com

[lolcat]

you site has been included in this site

who find the bitcoin blocks?

http://digbtc.com

Awesome!

[coblee]

you site has been included in this site

who find the bitcoin blocks?

http://digbtc.com

Doesn't look like you are including bitclockers. Might be because bitclockers doesn't expose the block ids. Why is that? Why doesn't bitclockers show the block ids here? http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory

[lolcat]

That's a bummer

[dalamchops]

pool getting ddosed?

[kiwiasian]

^No, people are just leaving because this round is ridiculously long.

[mmortal03]

^No, people are just leaving because this round is ridiculously long.

I'm curious if that is a rational thing to do.  Is there some formula one can use, where after spending a certain amount of time with a particular proportional pool, that it's time to hop to another pool? Or, is it simply psychological?

[ptshamrock]

bitcxlockers down??


arggghh

[V2-V3]

BTC came under a massive new attack and Backburn came to the rescue!

Site and Pools are back to smooth operation

[digger]

can't find block no information from your site,so your site not been included "who found the bitcoin blocks"?

http://digbtc.com[/b]]http://digbtc.com

[ptshamrock]

nitclockers worked smooth again until now..cannot connect to pool3 !worked until a few mins ago..

[lolcat]

There has been ongoing talk about the currentstate of the Pool in the IRC channel

For the past two weeks BitClockers mining pool has been under an "Attack" by a very large botnet and over the weekend several more large botnets have joined in flooding our servers with get work requests on the order of thousands of requests every second and never returning any work. This severely drains the resources of the server and adds nothing to the hashing power of the pool. It is effecting the quality of service to our users and drains much of the time from the pool operator. Currently the bulk of man hours is spent defending the pool from the ongoing attack. We would rather be spending time on building up the pool and adding features.

[V2-V3]

All looks nominal now   0.003% Stales on 20K shares

[ptshamrock]

great i have 0,4 stales/92k shares ! bitclockers is the best pool imho..! where can i find all adresses ?

pool1-4  .bitclockers.com right?


hopefully those ddos stop at least for a while..

[Fletch]

Might wanna have a look at this: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=30440.0

Edit: Just saw lolcat's post above.

[V2-V3]

Might wanna have a look at this: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=30440.0

Edit: Just saw lolcat's post above.

+1 Kudos for Backburn once again saves the day!

[lolcat]

Woo! Backburn

[BkkCoins]

Is there some reason my miners keep cycling on/off every 5 minutes now?

They weren't doing this earlier today but now they mine for 5 minutes, run out of work, disconnect from server, wait 20 seconds and connect again and continue working.

I don't know if this is my end having a problem or if something is happening at the pool server that is causing idleness and disconnects.

This is my first day doing 600 MH/s at BitClockers. I've been around for a few weeks but was just playing with CPU mining until I got my 5830s set up.

Running Phoenix 1.48 on Ubuntu with 11.6 drivers.

Any ideas?

[V2-V3]

The contest for August has started!
We'll be giving away an ASUS ATI Radeon 6970 Direct Cu II Graphics card to one lucky winner in the pool.



You do not need to enter to win.  You must have a valid email address tied to your mining account (when you created it) and submit at least 1,000 shares in the month of August.  Every share submitted between 8/1/2011 and 8/31/2011 will generate one ticket.  Therefore, miners that submit the most shares over the month will have a better chance at winning.  Shares and tickets will be aggregated by account and not by worker.  You are free to use and create multiple workers.

On Monday, September 12th, we will draw 3 tickets with a random function in the #bitclockers irc channel.   Tickets will be drawn using the python random function.  The other 2 tickets are backups in the event the winner does not claim their prize.  We will post a list of workers and ticket numbers for inspection about 48 hours before we random the winner.

The winner will be announced at the time of drawing and then be notified by the email address supplied with their account.   Winner must respond within 5 days with a valid mailing address to receive their card.  If we are unable to contact the winner via email their prize will be forfeited to the next winning ticket holder.

The drawing for this month's contest will be held LIVE Monday, September 12th 2011, at 6:30pm PST in our IRC channel. You can use the Live Chat link at the top to join us.

You can find a list of worker shares and ticket numbers for the PREVIOUS month's contest here: http://bitclockers.com/files/workerticketsjune2011.html

[lolcat]

Gotta love Bitclockers, this is the third month they've done a giveaway!

[dub0matic]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

[lolcat]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

What? 

[hawks5999]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

What? 

Yeah that makes no sense.

BTW, thanks BitClockers, you popped my block-cherry this morning.

[lolcat]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

What? 

Yeah that makes no sense.

BTW, thanks BitClockers, you popped my block-cherry this morning.

Oh no, now I understand what he means. The answer is no.


Lol @ hawks
Congratulations!

[acebmxer]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

it was in response to a post I had made but I thought I deleted it before anyone read it.

I think for the past 5 min or so I am having issues connecting to the pool and the web site.  Is anyone else or just me having troubles?

[Elder III]

what are you talking bout its there but onto more serious business are we called mainframe http://digbtc.com/index.php

it was in response to a post I had made but I thought I deleted it before anyone read it.

I think for the past 5 min or so I am having issues connecting to the pool and the web site.  Is anyone else or just me having troubles?

same thing here...

[lolcat]

Nuuuuuuu! D:

[Elder III]

working here now.... 

[acebmxer]

still off and on. on my end. more off then on 

[lolcat]

Woo! I'm back on.

[V2-V3]

To clarify the BitClockers August Mineaway,

The video card for the month of August Giveaway is an ATI Radeon HD 6970

This is an upgrade from previous giveaways with the 6950

[lolcat]

If I win I'll be stuck with this fancy card, oh noo
Next month should be a 1200W PSU

[EskimoBob]

you have a nice pool and lucky one too but endless connection problems are starting to become irritating

Code:

[2011-08-07 13:36:36] Accepted 2bffbc7f GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:36:44] Accepted db24b8e9 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:36:54] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:36:54] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:37:07] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:37:07] Accepted bb7e6571 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:14] Accepted e4711ac1 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:16] Accepted e4573767 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:21] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:37:21] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:37:41] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:37:41] Accepted 39d33666 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:43] Accepted 4eaac472 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:51] Accepted c2917a90 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:38:21] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:38:21] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:38:23] LONGPOLL detected new block on network, waiting on fresh work
[2011-08-07 13:38:39] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:38:39] Rejected 757f53a2 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:38:41] Accepted 3e6484f6 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8

I know I am not the only one with this problem but your pools is the only one where I have problems like this.
I understand this can happen to high speeds miners but I am a one-card-just-for-fun miner at 370MH.

Cheers and keep on mining.

[BTC_Junkie]

you have a nice pool and lucky one too but endless connection problems are starting to become irritating

Code:

[2011-08-07 13:36:36] Accepted 2bffbc7f GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:36:44] Accepted db24b8e9 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:36:54] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:36:54] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:37:07] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:37:07] Accepted bb7e6571 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:14] Accepted e4711ac1 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:16] Accepted e4573767 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:21] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:37:21] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:37:41] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:37:41] Accepted 39d33666 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:43] Accepted 4eaac472 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:37:51] Accepted c2917a90 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:38:21] Pool 8 communication failure, caching submissions
[2011-08-07 13:38:21] Stale share detected, discarding
[2011-08-07 13:38:23] LONGPOLL detected new block on network, waiting on fresh work
[2011-08-07 13:38:39] Pool 8 communication resumed, submitting work
[2011-08-07 13:38:39] Rejected 757f53a2 GPU 0 thread 1 pool 8
[2011-08-07 13:38:41] Accepted 3e6484f6 GPU 0 thread 0 pool 8

I know I am not the only one with this problem but your pools is the only one where I have problems like this.
I understand this can happen to high speeds miners but I am a one-card-just-for-fun miner at 370MH.

Cheers and keep on mining.

I can confirm I have the same problem on both of my rigs (all 6 cards).

[simonk83]

I can confirm I have the same problem on both of my rigs (all 6 cards).

Yep, me too.  I had to give up as it was just unusable.

[acebmxer]

I keep having 1 or 2 cards drop out of the pool.  It is usually the same card so I dont know what that means.  I have tried changing clocks and voltages to that card but it could run fine for a day then the next constant connection issues.  If I stop and restart the mine it will connect again.

[dub0matic]

you can thank all the cpuminers. should be fixed by Wednesday when new servers get in place

[lolcat]

Hmm.. I never had the problem.

[digger]

can't even know which blocked finded by your site!
so your site not list in http://digbtc.com

[lolcat]

hey digger, thanks for bumpin this post alot.

[digger]

hey digger, thanks for bumpin this post alot.

will you add the blockno which solved by your pool?

[simonk83]

So the new servers aren't in yet obviously?  Still huge problems.

[BTC_Junkie]

So the new servers aren't in yet obviously?  Still huge problems.

Yup, still bad connection problems here as well.

[KarlSpaat]

And the server seems to have problems with calculating payouts.
Watch payout statistics for block 108.

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory


I will change my pool. Its okay to have a big variance, but if i dont get money for short blocks ...

[dub0matic]

And the server seems to have problems with calculating payouts.
Watch payout statistics for block 108.

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory


I will change my pool. Its okay to have a big variance, but if i dont get money for short blocks ...

dude with short blocks it doesnt calculate right but it will be fixed soon dont worry

[V2-V3]

Congratulations to Agony1 for willing the July contest and receiving a powerful new ASUS Radeon HD 6950 Graphics card!
http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=137.0

[ian209]

Just took my 2Ghash/s setup out of MTred and into BitClockers.
Let's see how this goes.

[simonk83]

Just took my 2Ghash/s setup out of MTred and into BitClockers.
Let's see how this goes.

I've gone the other way.  Two many connection issues.

[V2-V3]

planned server maintenance completed, Thank you for your patience!

[lolcat]

UPDATE: 24 hours later i'm seeing 0.15 % Stales or less on BitClockers mining Pool

Big Thank you to Backburn and Artemis! mighty fine work!

[Zoomer]

Looks like your signup page doesn't recognize emails more than one level deep. For example, user@a.example.com doesn't work, nor does user@a.b.c.example.com, etc.

[V2-V3]

UPDATE: 24 hours later i'm seeing 0.15 % Stales or less on BitClockers mining Pool

Big Thank you to Backburn and Artemis! mighty fine work!

Glad you like the new system, BitClockers has even more in the works

[lolcat]

Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeves

[V2-V3]

Woot, Peak hash rate of 528GHash/s

[BTC_Junkie]

Anyone else unable to get on the site?

[lolcat]

Anyone else unable to get on the site?

No problems here

[V2-V3]

MMMM 644 Ghash!

[lolcat]

Dayuuuuuuuum!

[V2-V3]

BitClockers social media:

Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/BitClockers
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BitCoinPool
IRC: http://bitclockers.com/livechat

[MrWizard]

Re: August draw:
"We will post a list of workers and ticket numbers for inspection about 48 hours before we random the winner."

Where is it?  Can't find it.

[coinhammer]

This pool is not the greatest, unless you are a pool hopper or enjoy being robbed by hoppers. Presently DOWN with no eta, been down for hours, with this on their forums "The Pool is currently offline, Yes none of the Admins are online, we have no ETA for when the pool will be back online, so either". Good Stuff...

[mmortal03]

I had you guys down as providing automatic payouts the last time I updated my chart (mind you, it's been a little while). I just signed up to test things out, and I don't see an automatic payout feature (only an instant one).

[coinhammer]

Bitclockers gone downhill! Site posting dodgy data, main admin hasnt been seen in days, payments disappearing and people being told their missing payments are ghosts, etc.. Got this little gem this morning
"<+Aaaron> often when blocks are found too quickly things dont pay out, that is been the situation for a while now.  not sure if that is what happened this time tho".
 

[flower1024]

just took my last payout yesterday evening when it was back up again

kind regards from an ex-pool hopper (who just realized 30%-100% more is still not much)

[wknight]

This seems shady to me

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/172

[wknight]

ohh and this

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/169

lets go for more

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/170

[abracadabra]

http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/169
http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/170
http://bitclockers.com/blockhistory/block/172

Dunno if there's more. 

[V2-V3]

Hello fellow miners,

The Saturday morning service outage was a result of issues with the main pool load balancer. Scripts designed to create a new virtual balancer failed; resulting in several hours of downtime.
We apologize for any trouble this may have caused.

We are aware of the the zero share block issue. Unfortunately, our database administrator was away with his family over the weekend. Payouts for block 169 and 172 will go out soon. Block 170 will be removed as it was not actually a block. We take pool stability seriously, any patch or database changes will be analyzed and tested to ensure it will not conflict with existing code or planned maintenance.

We welcome any and all feedback or bug reports. We have E-mail, IRC Live Chat, and community Forums to facilitate communication with the administrators.

BitClockers.com would like to thank all of you for your patience.  Bitclockers is nothing without active miners like you. With your support we will continue to provide outstanding support, lowest stales, and best up time in the community.

[mmortal03]

I had you guys down as providing automatic payouts the last time I updated my chart (mind you, it's been a little while). I just signed up to test things out, and I don't see an automatic payout feature (only an instant one).

Besides the auto payout feature not being there, the password reset feature isn't working for me.  Something got mangled with LastPass when I set my password initially, and now I'm not getting an e-mail when trying to reset it.

[V2-V3]

I had you guys down as providing automatic payouts the last time I updated my chart (mind you, it's been a little while). I just signed up to test things out, and I don't see an automatic payout feature (only an instant one).

Besides the auto payout feature not being there, the password reset feature isn't working for me.  Something got mangled with LastPass when I set my password initially, and now I'm not getting an e-mail when trying to reset it.

Bitclockers does not currently provide automatic payouts.

Users can request a password reset only once. PM Backburn or I with your username so i can reset it for you.

[V2-V3]

How to cool your Bitcoin mining farm on the hottest day of the year.

http://youtu.be/Ut8mwo7vGBI

[bronan]

Sadly although the pool runs kinda stable.
I am getting sick of seeing almost double users when the units are under 1,000,000 blocks
So even though its possible i hate these darn poolhoppers
For this i will keep searching one who has a solution against those thiefs.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Honestly I have no idea why anyone uses a proportional pool anymore.  There are many solid proven hop proof pools out there now.

[phants]

In advance I am sorry for a bad writing - machine translation from Russian.

Has drawn today a conclusion of coins:
10343 2011-10-10 6:15:20 AM 0.26418189 14aAM9tMuuQBjBXrkHZ7peKTkXHLoNqB6y
But coins and haven't come. On a site http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ also it is not visible to this transaction.
I ask to understand.

[bronan]

Sadly i have same payement issue as well as like 15 or more others as i saw on irc
Untill now not a response from anyone.


Well somehow i get the idea that all pools are affected by the hoppers
I have no clue if it can really can be prevented, all pools i checked have this
The one i checked now at start i see about 100 to 500 more users for a (500.000 shares) short time and suddenly the numbers drop again. After it reaches (900.000) shares i see a difference of 100-400 workers left and the Ghash/s dropped accordingly
So i guess many still found a way to fool the pools in someway

[DeathAndTaxes]

Sadly i have same payement issue as well as like 15 or more others as i saw on irc
Untill now not a response from anyone.


Well somehow i get the idea that all pools are affected by the hoppers
I have no clue if it can really can be prevented, all pools i checked have this
The one i checked now at start i see about 100 to 500 more users for a (500.000 shares) short time and suddenly the numbers drop again. After it reaches (900.000) shares i see a difference of 100-400 workers left and the Ghash/s dropped accordingly
So i guess many still found a way to fool the pools in someway

Join a PPS, PPLNS, or SMPPS pool.  These pools pay the same for every share. They are un-hoppable.  I know I hopped 10GH for quite a while.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

Proportional pools are the only one that can be hopped with any regularity and it is astonishingly easy.  Just look for # of shares since last block and if below a preset hop point then hop in.  Once share count gets to preset hop point, hop out and look for another pool.  (All this automated of course).

As a proof to the strength of unhoppable pools when my miner told me there were no hoppable pools (because all pools which can be hopped were on long blocks) I went to a SMPPS pool so I wouldn't be cheated by other hoppers.  Yup even hoppers avoid getting hopped on. 

[V2-V3]

Methods are currently in development to provide an alternative solution for miners who wish to use a "hop proof" pool.

[abracadabra]

V2-V3,  can you look into a payment that I made this morning

Payment ID: 10337   2011-10-10 04:58:25   

It shows up on the site, but hasn't come thru to my wallet.

Thanks!

[zapeta]

I can't login.  Keep getting password invalid.  Try to reset password and get no email from bitclockers.

Same problem.  Any suggestions?

[phants]

In advance I am sorry for a bad writing - machine translation from Russian.

Has drawn today a conclusion of coins:
10343 2011-10-10 6:15:20 AM 0.26418189 14aAM9tMuuQBjBXrkHZ7peKTkXHLoNqB6y
But coins and haven't come. On a site http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ also it is not visible to this transaction.
I ask to understand.

Help!

[HolodeckJizzmopper]

http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=400.0

Thread on BitClockers forum with a growing list of people who didn't get paid.

Edit: Payment finally came through

[bronan]

Sadly i have same payement issue as well as like 15 or more others as i saw on irc
Untill now not a response from anyone.


Well somehow i get the idea that all pools are affected by the hoppers
I have no clue if it can really can be prevented, all pools i checked have this
The one i checked now at start i see about 100 to 500 more users for a (500.000 shares) short time and suddenly the numbers drop again. After it reaches (900.000) shares i see a difference of 100-400 workers left and the Ghash/s dropped accordingly
So i guess many still found a way to fool the pools in someway

Join a PPS, PPLNS, or SMPPS pool.  These pools pay the same for every share. They are un-hoppable.  I know I hopped 10GH for quite a while.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

Proportional pools are the only one that can be hopped with any regularity and it is astonishingly easy.  Just look for # of shares since last block and if below a preset hop point then hop in.  Once share count gets to preset hop point, hop out and look for another pool.  (All this automated of course).

As a proof to the strength of unhoppable pools when my miner told me there were no hoppable pools (because all pools which can be hopped were on long blocks) I went to a SMPPS pool so I wouldn't be cheated by other hoppers.  Yup even hoppers avoid getting hopped on. 

Now even though i loved being here and did like the concept of mining i have to turn off my machines completely
Even while i think some day bitcoins will get a better value again, for now its absolute insanity to go on
Especially since people like you keep cheating like many others do, it is in my view still stealing you can say whatever you like but in my view if you do this your probably also would do criminal activities in the real world.

For me that is simply out of the question, i simply refuse to be like modern politicians and criminals that is lie and cheat as much as possible to gain as much as possible.

Second reason why i am going to pull the plug is because i simply am loosing tons of money here
I have been running my pc's for some weeks now and when i connected the power meter got a shock
This results in a heavy electric bill which is 0.34 euro cents a kwh in last 4 days i used 83 kwh to get 0.8 btc ....
So simple calculation it costs me 28,22 euro just on electricity to receive 0,81 btc x 3,55 = 2,8755 euro
So in short it costs 10 times more on electricty to mine just that little bit of bitcoins
Since i have nothing to trade this is also no go for me as well, i can't help being poor and being honest.
So for now i really am going to turn my systems off to save a lot of energy, hoping for better times on here in the near future.
Non of the rich guys on bitcoin did make me a donation at all to buy some solar panels to lower my energy bill xD
And honestly probably never will get any donations, since too many just too greedy to help fellow people.

To make long story short i will keep an eye on the forums and for now goodbye

[phants]

http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=400.0

Thread on BitClockers forum with a growing list of people who didn't get paid.

Thanks!

[DeathAndTaxes]

Now even though i loved being here and did like the concept of mining i have to turn off my machines completely
Even while i think some day bitcoins will get a better value again, for now its absolute insanity to go on
Especially since people like you keep cheating like many others do, it is in my view still stealing you can say whatever you like but in my view if you do this your probably also would do criminal activities in the real world.

Lame personal attacks aside there is a solution.  You have been informed of the solution you chose not to use the solution.

A pool like arsbitcoin pays a fixed amount for every single share regardless of how long or short the block is.  It can't be hopped.  It is 100% fair.  Nobody gets paid more.  Nobody gets paid less.

Still hopping didn't bankrupt you.  E0.34 per kWh is simply impossible to break even.  You used a calculator right?

Top of the line rigs gets 2MH/W.
It takes 6607064156 MH on average to generate one block.  @ 2MH/W that is 917 kWh.

If you are paying E0.34 then thats E312 per block in electrical costs.
To break even (no profit and free hardware) a BTC would need to be worth E313/50 = E6.24.

Why do people fail @ business and them blame everyone else.
If you started a business that sold 5 Euro Bills for 1 Euro you likely would also go out of business.

[bronan]

You have been informed of the solution you chose not to use the solution.

I have looked at that solution and is appealing but for me at the moment not an option

A pool like arsbitcoin pays a fixed amount for every single share regardless of how long or short the block is.  It can't be hopped.  It is 100% fair.  Nobody gets paid more.  Nobody gets paid less.

True but this makes it even harder since the payements are much lower so getting even on these pools will take a lot more power and time. I earned at this pool 0.12 BTC a day..... to compare i made at bitclockers about 0.21 btc

Still hopping didn't bankrupt you.

I think pool hoppng is damaging to bitcoin in general, the ones hopping benefit ofcourse but it discourage others to tip in.

E0.34 per kWh is simply impossible to break even. You used a calculator right?

I am still truggling to get from the electricity companies the real price per kWh. I was under the impression it was E 0.23 but then i got another bill and 5 more later on all different periods and aimed at making it hard to calculate exact what you must pay.

Would you believe me they still not given the real price till today.... so its either E 0.44 or 0.34 but every company i wrote still have not answered the question proper.
They simply refuse to give straight answer... but in coming weeks i should receive the bill over the last year, funny enough even though the woman could see the total she refused to tell me the amount .....
Our country is a tax/governement hell you pay tax over and over again by that i mean they count tax over electra and then add energy tax , then they add transport costs, meter costs, and at the end they let yoy pay another 20% over the total.

Top of the line rigs gets 2MH/W.
It takes 6607064156 MH on average to generate one block.  @ 2MH/W that is 917 kWh.

If you are paying E0.34 then thats E312 per block in electrical costs.
To break even (no profit and free hardware) a BTC would need to be worth E313/50 = E6.24.

I did the maths as well, simple said i do not have a 3x 5970 rig, it would be even very hard to find one at all or they ask very high prices
And even if i would find them i do not have the money, so yes i had some fun doing this but its a very expenssive hobby.

Why do people fail @ business and them blame everyone else. If you started a business that sold 5 Euro Bills for 1 Euro you likely would also go out of business.

First of all when i came into contact with bitcoin it was hovering at $8 untill some people spread fear into the community again by stating that mt.gox takes their bitcoins and more of this bad news. Which made it even fall deeper in short time its like the financial markets one starts yelling and tons of people start selling out.
Now this is a statement about failing business is which i really do not understand nor support, these days its really hard to do a succesfull business. At this moment i would not dare to start one just because you have to compete against the big multinationals ...
Even if you setup something good its darn hard to keep it alive because of taxes and enormous competition from the bigger chains
... every shop owner i know went out of business because the big chains slowly take over.
We all shop at the supermarkets which are probably all owned by the quote 500 people, the small retailers disappear because these giants taking out any and all competition. The only shops who still can stay alive are in the service types (barber, dentist or whatever)
Even farmers flee our country and goto either canada or australia because they simply get nuts of governement rules and taxes

Now you can say you can start a internet business ... lol even a bigger joke..
You can only succeed if you have a new concept or super idea.. if not forget it you simply can not compete with the big ones which are established.
I look every day at a site which sell stuff from bankrupt or ending companies the list is huge and every day growing bigger.
The current neverending profit model economy is just good for the biggest and rich who can afford to loose some.
Another thing which for me made a huge impact is that 12 years ago, i was having a rather good life
I could drive a new car , go on holiday, have some quality time in some nice restaurants, bars and other good things in life. Then we entered the eu.... and since that most of the people i know life to pay the bills ...
Some things got cheap indeed electronic shit enough and cheap as hell but i can not eat that... for instance i saw a watermelon (5 kg) at the grocer costs 24 euro .... thats half the money we have weekly for living left after the major bill get payed.

Yes the energy, water, taxes (demanded by law), insurances (demanded by law), health care (demanded by law) and last but not least our house (1000 euro a month rent cause we earned 2 euro too much for get into the cheap houses) these alone eat nowadays 70 % of our double income and we can do shit about it.
In most cases if you stop paying you get the nice guys at your doorstep and you end up in even bigger problems. And we consider ourselfs normal earning people, these days more and more people end up living under bridges and such or making an end on their lifes just because they can no longer pay the greed from governements, insurance, banks and multi nationals.
On paper the banks, water, energy, insurance companies are private.
But look a bit closer on who owns the most shares you'll see ... in our country most of the time 50% or more is owned by the governements in whatever form...
So yes i try to find a way to increase my income a bit, and since bitcoin is a concept i really like i took a look into it.
The guy who introduced me to bitcoin forgot to mention he does not pay his own electra bills.

All my money which i spend on securing my old days have been stolen by my lovely governement as well, or has been vaporised by the all the fraud and crisis over crisis the failing and greedy bankers which still pay huge bonusses these days. They still live large on our stolen money which they got from again the same governements...

[worldinacoin]

I see a lot of fluctuations, wonder what are bitclockers actions against pool hoppers so that everyone gets their fair share?  Also is bitclockers considering merged mining?

[pandemic]

can't sign up - says invalid security token. Have tried refreshing

[V2-V3]

can't sign up - says invalid security token. Have tried refreshing

Can you provide any more information of this issue?

[coretechs]

I've been mining here for a while now, nice pool, needs some measures to prevent against hopping.

When is the next monthly contest?

[worldinacoin]

Love to see merged mining in bitclockers.  Hopefully even merged I0coin, Ixcoin etc  depending on the progress of BCX

[coretechs]

Pool has been down intermittently today, getting CloudFlare Errors.

[Eveofwar]

Pool has been down intermittently today, getting CloudFlare Errors.

Confirming this.  The website is showing CloudFlare errors and the pool isn't dishing out work.

[worldinacoin]

Same for me here, it happened yesterday too, I just change pool for the time being

Pool has been down intermittently today, getting CloudFlare Errors.

[abracadabra]

No one in irc to provide more info either.

Hope it's being worked on.

[Eveofwar]

No one in irc to provide more info either.

Hope it's being worked on.

Looks like the website and pool is back up serving work.

[V2-V3]

Full service has been restored!

[abracadabra]

still down here.  7:40PM CST

[abracadabra]

whoops... never mind... hit refresh a few times and the website came up.. thanks!

[V2-V3]

Welcome!

[worldinacoin]

The instant payout seems to be having issues

[coretechs]

Confirmed.  I'm getting a 500 error if I try to withdraw.

[worldinacoin]

I just had a blank page when I click on the payout.

[rampa]

 error 500 at this side. :-(

[worldinacoin]

Down for quite a few rounds already, my bitcoins are stuck there

[Mobius]

Payouts not working since yesterday.

[paraipan]

Payouts not working since yesterday.

+1

[V2-V3]

Instant Payout updated



BitClockers Support Forums

[worldinacoin]

Thanks a million, up and running

[V2-V3]

Thanks a million, up and running

You are most welcome, thank you for your patience!

[V2-V3]

On other news, BitClockers has opened a 64 player Battle Field 3 Server:

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/63.208.142.61:25200/

Feedback Welcome,

Enjoy!

[martychubbs]

Payouts not working:

"debugging bear with us trying to validate bitcoin address"

haven't changed the address...?

update - Fixed 

[V2-V3]

@ martychubbs

Thank you for bring this to our attention.

There is a detailed thread in the BitClockers support section available HERE

[Littleshop]

@ martychubbs

Thank you for bring this to our attention.

There is a detailed thread in the BitClockers support section available HERE

I am still having that error, "please bear with us" and unable to get payouts.

[Mobius]

How about fixing this issue. AGAIN, Still not working.

[martychubbs]

How about fixing this issue. AGAIN, Still not working.

it's baaaaack!

[Mobius]

as of 30 seconds ago

debugging bear with us trying to validate bitcoin address

[worldinacoin]

The instant payoff is not quite instant. Also any news on Merged mining?  Would love to see merged NMC, I0C, IxC etc

[kislam]

Instant payment is not working for me. Getting the message "debugging bear with us trying to validate bitcoin address" - what gives?

following the forum link at http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=422.0 wasn't much help since it's not resolved there either. only says that there are some problems with co-location providers.

[Mobius]

3+ Days and counting, yet no communication nor a fix.

[worldinacoin]

: ( instant payout is still not too instant

debugging bear with us trying to validate bitcoin address

[martychubbs]

3+ Days and counting, yet no communication nor a fix.

it is sucks! 

[worldinacoin]

This error has been on and off for sometime already, can be kinda frustrating

[kislam]

it just worked for me a while ago...

[worldinacoin]

it just worked for me a while ago...

Yeap the problem seems to be solved

[V2-V3]

: ( instant payout is still not too instant

debugging bear with us trying to validate bitcoin address

This issue was addressed in the BC support forum: http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=422.0

[V2-V3]

The Bitclockers bandwidth provider is currently experiencing network interruptions, we have not been given an ETA at this time.

[V2-V3]

Update* Our bandwidth provider reports all systems nominal.

[Littleshop]

I am getting the withdraw error, please bear with us again. 

[wknight]

Just got the same thing. Error and all.

[simonk83]

As did I, but it also debited my account and didn't send the coins

[abracadabra]

As did I, but it also debited my account and didn't send the coins

Same here   
Twice.  Coins never showed up in my wallet but they show up as having been paid in history.

[simonk83]

Yeah, me too

[Litt]

ok. it happened to me as well. The payment id and amount does show in the payout section, but didn't receive the payments.

The error message is slightly different than previous earlier errors saying the payout address is valid at the end which I suspect is why the payout is being deducted unlike the previous errors.

[extrememiner]

Same here. Payout ID 14054. Time Sent 2011-12-08 01:27:28. Coins didn't received. No transaction in blockexplorer.

[worldinacoin]

Same for me, I did a instant payout of more than 3 BTC, just do not appear in my wallet although the later ones are ok.  That transaction is missing.

[Eveofwar]

Maybe it'd be a good idea for you to stop doing payouts...

Just a thought.

[worldinacoin]

Yeap I am stopping for the moment until I get to find out where is my 3 BTC

[Litt]

Same for me, I did a instant payout of more than 3 BTC, just do not appear in my wallet although the later ones are ok.  That transaction is missing.

so you actually received payments from the ones that didn't go through right away? The two payments of mines still never arrived.

[extrememiner]

Same for me, I did a instant payout of more than 3 BTC, just do not appear in my wallet although the later ones are ok.  That transaction is missing.

so you actually received payments from the ones that didn't go through right away? The two payments of mines still never arrived.

No. Coins debited, but didn't sended

[worldinacoin]

Same for me, I did a instant payout of more than 3 BTC, just do not appear in my wallet although the later ones are ok.  That transaction is missing.

so you actually received payments from the ones that didn't go through right away? The two payments of mines still never arrived.

I send for two payments, the later payment went through, but the earlier was never received.

[wknight]

Until someone that runs the pool comments i wouldn't trust the payout system. 2-3 days and no answer.. maybe its another pool coming to its end

[V2-V3]

This issue is currently being worked on and all transactions are being manually reconciled to ensure proper payouts for all users.

If you have a transaction in question please post your "Payout ID" HERE


sample of requested information:

 Payout ID                    
  14337    

[wknight]

Thanks for an update V2-V3! Really glad you guys are not giving up

[worldinacoin]

Any news on our BTC?  I do not dare to withdraw the BTC newly generated because of this issue.

[Mobius]

Again with the NON-PAYMENT issue, then you want people to post it to your forum, which by the way does let people register and then does not accept their logon or reset their passwords (never sends the re-set e-mail)

Then you want us to resubmit the transaction ID so you can manually verify it, which can't be done, since you can't login as per above.

Then you have on your main page to use the IRC #bitclockers. yet no one who administrates the pool shows up to answer questions nor do they give an explanation or a schedule to correct these issues.

Please notify your miners when payouts are working again.

Until then we should ALL mine somewhere else.

[simonk83]

My payment just came through.   I do need my password resetting for the main site, and as you said the reset password email never arrives, but I'm sure they'll get that fixed up as well.

[worldinacoin]

My lost transaction is now back, thanks a million to bitclockers.

[V2-V3]

Manual reconciliation of payouts has been completed all due balances have been paid.
Affected Payout ID's were 14011 through 14087.

[owowo]

I can not login anymore. I use the right pw/user but I just get back to the login screen... No error message, nothing, and as alway noone around to ask. I will go mine somewhere else cus I'm sick of this SHIT!!!

[V2-V3]

Website upgrades in progress!

[crazy987]

Nvm, should learn to look better

[worldinacoin]

The new web site seems to have a lot for us to anticipate

[wknight]

I received my payment! Thank you!

[V2-V3]

More upgrades to come in the next week.

[V2-V3]

Updated sign in page:

Update to the sign in page includes error notification of incorrect username and or password being used.

[V2-V3]

New Forum updates just i time for the holidays!

The forum software and anti-bot countermeasures have been updated to the latest and greatest.


If you see any errors or oddities from the update post here and let me know.

Thanks all!

Enjoy!

[V2-V3]

Updated the BitClockers User Dashboard: Payouts

     *Now includes block explorer confirmation link!

[Eveofwar]

http://bitclockers.com/api.json

API doesn't match shares on the website.  Missing the 1st digit, or last if you see it that way.  What gives ?

Shares This Round:</b> 2,973,514</td>
"roundshares":297351


EDIT:  Hmm, appears fixed now.

[V2-V3]

A new look is coming to BitClockers.com !

[simonk83]

Not a big fan of the new site to be honest, but I don't check it all that often so I'll live.

[V2-V3]

As the upgrades are rolled out you will see some interesting things here and there!

Check out the new BitClockers mining Calculator!

https://bitclockers.com/calc



watch for more features to come!

[dirtycat]

do you have any more monthly contests? I havent seen anything since august..

[Clipse]

Whats with the bitclockers.com website? When I load it now it asks for some retarded "one more authorization" and then it states, "bitclockers participate in antivirus something something"

[Clipse]

I only get it from my home connection (dynamic ip, allways been) , my other dedicated static ips on dedicated servers didnt show this, weird.

[Eveofwar]

Able to browse around bitclockers.com without the notice you two are seeing...maybe it's a non-US thing ?

[Clipse]

Able to browse around bitclockers.com without the notice you two are seeing...maybe it's a non-US thing ?

my UK host had no problem, as I said it seems to be related to my local dynamic ip.

[V2-V3]

Able to browse around bitclockers.com without the notice you two are seeing...maybe it's a non-US thing ?

I only got it once, and at work. Was very odd.

This can be attributed to our security protection methods. It looks like at some point your IP address was reported to a black list. But will not effect your mining operations

[backburn]

Bitclockers thread updated!

[Askit2]

When The front end updates where made live my windows gadget and phone app stopped displaying the information they used to display.
Looking into the API I see nothing wrong with it. Nothing had changed that would make the gadget not work. I have tried setting up the API
address up again pasted in my Key. Still I can not get my current coins and paid out coins to display. On My phone I can see submitted
shares and the speed but not the coins. I  can view all pertinent data by setting up the API with my key. Can my gadget get banned?

[V2-V3]

I am unaware of this issue and have not experienced it myself, ill see what i can dig up for you

[Clipse]

Server went poof?

[Clipse]

Server went poof?

Yes Rhino, you killed it!

Guh Guh Guh, feel free to explain to me oneday what you mean by Rhino o_0

[martychubbs]

Oh, the two contract guys broke the pool!  thanks

[rampone]

[Clipse]

Oddly that looks alot like a sketched image of martychubbs avatar

[martychubbs]

Oddly that looks alot like a sketched image of martychubbs avatar

If it were taken of me in the morning! Dude, chill out, like you broke the pool...  I was being sarcastic...

[Clipse]

If I get any chiller you may aswell call me Vanilla ICE.

[V2-V3]

Update:

Operations have been restored!

[martychubbs]

Server error
The website encountered an error while retrieving https://bitclockers.com/dashboard/payout. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.
Here are some suggestions:
Reload this webpage later.
HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request.

[joulesbeef]

operations are not quite 100%

payouts are not working.

[Big Time Coin]

operations are not quite 100%

payouts are not working.

+1

having same error as above 3 posters

[bulanula]

I thought this pool was supposed to be dead / shut down long time ago because of the faulty payment system

[joulesbeef]

bulanula,

then why are you here?

[martychubbs]

payment is working!

[V2-V3]

payment is working!

Yes sir!

[paraipan]

https not working when logging in or it's just me 

[V2-V3]

https not working when logging in or it's just me  

https://bitclockers.com/

Working here,

Make sure if you are behind a proxy that the settings allow HTTPS traffic as some web proxy/content filters block HTTPS traffic because traffic can't be monitored.

[paraipan]

https not working when logging in or it's just me  

https://bitclockers.com/

Working here,

Make sure if you are behind a proxy that the settings allow HTTPS traffic as some web proxy/content filters block HTTPS traffic because traffic can't be monitored.

working now, thanks

[V2-V3]

@ paraipan

You are most welcome

[V2-V3]

Pool Update:

API is now backwards compatible with old website, minerstatus app should work again.

[V2-V3]

Pool Update:

Statistics page updated, now contain more stuffs!

[organofcorti]

Pool Update:

Statistics page updated, now contain more stuffs!

And it's all fake. Why bother putting up stats when they have only a tenuous relation to reality?

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Yes, Bitclockers have some explaining to do.

[V2-V3]

Pool Update:

Statistics page updated, now contain more stuffs!

And it's all fake. Why bother putting up stats when they have only a tenuous relation to reality?

Excuse me sir, i can see that you are a strong advocate of pool hopping. Bitclockers.com does not support pool hopping and there are several technologies in place to protect honest users.

Bitclockers delays share count statistics just like deepbit and other major pools.

[abracadabra]

Bitclockers.com does not support pool hopping and there are several technologies in place to protect honest users.

Bitclockers delays share count statistics just like deepbit and other major pools.

V2, I've bantered around with you on IRC and you seem to be a decent and forthcoming guy.  Don't you believe it would have been more honest and respectable to indicate to your users that "Bitclockers.com does not support pool hopping and there are several technologies in place to protect honest users" from the start, instead of quite underhandedly faking stats, blocks, etc. to implement said "technology to protect honest users"?  Deepbit and other major pools spell out their anti-hopping measures and if your true intentions were to protect your 24/7 miners there are several proven technologies and payout methods that are hopper proof.  Instead, you guys took the low road, and did who knows what with payouts and blocks.

I know what the intentions were, but what's to prove you weren't cheating your 24/7 miners as well?

I have come to the conclusion that any pool that does not provide a blockexplorer link to each and every block found by the pool is most likely doing something underhanded.

I would seriously recommend anyone who is serious about mining to not mine on any pool where the pool does not provide said blockexplorer links.

[Starlightbreaker]

ok, so...

Pool hopping proportional pools is simple. It's when there are known or unknown anti-hopping protections that you'll earned less than the expected value of a share.

Even then, at least with all of the hop resistant rather than hop proof scoring systems, as long as you're there at the start you'll earn more than PPS payout. I haven't come across a proportional modification that prevented that entirely.

The difficulty in pool hopping is optimising. This means finding the correct %D to leave the pool for a particular payout method, making sure your software doesn't cause too many stales or miss round starts, having a system that allows the software to compare the expected value of a share at a particular pool at a particular %D, and probably lots more.

As far as manipulating hoppers to increase hashrate, I'd guess that is why they've used their score method the way they have - without actually owning up. That way they keep their hopper boost but lose less coinage from fulltime miners to the pool hoppers.

Really, it's quite a nice idea - a score system that doesn't need to keep track of anything other than users shares. But Slush's score system still does better because the expected value of a share at the end of a long round is still near 1.0. whereas at Bitclockers.com the expected value of a share drops more rapidly even than a proportional pool. And of course, any of the DGM solutions (I include PPLNS in that) beats the Bitclockers.com system hands down since they're not only provably hopper proof, they're can also be modified - to reduce miners variance for example. And you don't have to lie about your stats.

I made a very conservative estimate of how much they've underpaid pool hoppers over the last 200 rounds, and that's about 2000btc.

welp...there goes my hopping pool.



....wait, no, doesn't matter anyways. i still get pretty decent chunk from them, even though it's off by ~30% at times.

[organofcorti]

Pool Update:
Statistics page updated, now contain more stuffs!

And it's all fake. Why bother putting up stats when they have only a tenuous relation to reality?

Excuse me sir, i can see that you are a strong advocate of pool hopping. Bitclockers.com does not support pool hopping and there are several technologies in place to protect honest users.

Bitclockers delays share count statistics just like deepbit and other major pools.

Firstly, I am not a 'strong advocate of pool hopping'. I do not care if people pool hop or not. I do however provide pool hoppers with information they need to hop pools that are too lazy to implement hopper proof technologies, mostly because the analyses are fun.

Secondly, I didn't mention delaying stats, I said you're faking your stats. Since abracadabra has spoken for you I'm going to assume that you're not being deliberately obtuse and just that you haven't read the following yet:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47411.msg757368#msg757368
http://hoppersden.info/entries/28-How-to-hop-10-Bitclockers.com-amp-spurious-round-lengths-part-1
http://hoppersden.info/entries/29-How-to-hop-11-Bitclockers.com-amp-spurious-round-lengths-part-2
http://hoppersden.info/entries/30-How-to-hop-12-Bitclockers.com-amp-spurious-round-lengths-part-3

You've been outed as faking your stats, round length in particular,  and I know for certain you're underpaying miners on short rounds. It's also possible you're underpaying your miners generally, but I haven't finished the analysis yet.

How do you respond?

[abracadabra]

I'll just leave these here.

The bitclockers info is from the bitclockers json page.

You can draw whatever conclusions you wish from the graphs.

The cyclic swing shown on in the early portion of the block is interesting to note.
I surmise that the slope of the true share count slope is approximated by the green lines I have drawn in the 2nd graph.

[abracadabra]

Oh.. one more thing..

at about 250GH it's about 3 hours to hit 43.5
bitclockers at the start of a block would regularly hit 750GH+

looking at the graph, the "anti-hopper technology" looks like it was hiding some shares from the entire pool (all miners, not just hoppers) for the first 4 to 4.5 hours.
at 750GH, 43.5 would be hit in about an hour or so.

slope lines are about right.. maybe a bit on the steep side...

[organofcorti]

It's possible you're seeing artefacts from having to either generate or transform round lengths. Until we find out more from them, I doubt we'll know for sure. I hope they do tell us more about what they're doing soon, since one of the methods they have used to generate the published round lengths would mean that all miners - even fulltime miners - are being underpaid by about 24%.

[Starlightbreaker]

uhhhhh...


someone suddenly changed their stats page, i can no longer see date & time on my block/round stats.

i'm pretty sure the difference is around 20-30%. i remember when i boosted my worker like a moron with gpumax, i only made ~0.5, where on bclc, got around 0.8-0.9 a round.

[stoppots]

I have come to the conclusion that any pool that does not provide a blockexplorer link to each and every block found by the pool is most likely doing something underhanded.

I would even go a step further and say pools not being transperent with their miners, has something to hide. Still can't even get past the fact that slush's pool  does not even offer its miners stats on how many shares per block they mined.

I mean seriously why not just call yourself Hushpool

[stoppots]

Anyone else having problems logging in with firefox? Works fine for me on chrome but on firefox every time I hit "sign in" the page just acts like you hit refresh?

[Starlightbreaker]

works fine for me.

[V2-V3]

Anyone else having problems logging in with firefox? Works fine for me on chrome but on firefox every time I hit "sign in" the page just acts like you hit refresh?

Fire Fox login to dashboard working here, try clearing your cookies and browser cache.

[macboy80]

WOW!

Count me as scammed. This is a surprising development. I would ask pool ops to please be forthcoming about how their "protections" have affected all of our earnings. Perhaps they can enlist organofcorti if they need help with math.

Thanks to all who endeavor to keep us informed!

[joulesbeef]

proves you cant trust even established pools and btc businesses, you got to do the research or leave yourself open to getting screwed.

[V2-V3]

WOW!

Count me as scammed. This is a surprising development. I would ask pool ops to please be forthcoming about how their "protections" have affected all of our earnings. Perhaps they can enlist organofcorti if they need help with math.

Thanks to all who endeavor to keep us informed!

BitClockers does not support Pool Hopping


BitClockers Discussion: http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=484.0

Bitclockers uses available methods to reduce the negative effects of pool hopping on non hoppers.

We delay live share statistics to entice hoppers to mine longer. .

• Countermeasures only effect hoppers.
• Countermeasures May keep poorly configured hopping clients from hopping earlier

...

[Eveofwar]

WOW!

Count me as scammed. This is a surprising development. I would ask pool ops to please be forthcoming about how their "protections" have affected all of our earnings. Perhaps they can enlist organofcorti if they need help with math.

Thanks to all who endeavor to keep us informed!

BitClockers does not support Pool Hopping


BitClockers Discussion: http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=474.0

Bitclockers uses available methods to reduce the negative effects of pool hopping on non hoppers.

We delay live share statistics to entice hoppers to mine longer. .

• Countermeasures only effect hoppers.
• Countermeasures May keep poorly configured hopping clients from hopping earlier

...

But what about ?

Both easy and fair, we offer proportional payment.  payout = user_shares / total_block_shares * 49.5

[backburn]

If you think its OK to hop pools, than its OK for the pool to hop hoppers.

[abracadabra]

If you think its OK to hop pools, than its OK for the pool to hop hoppers.

Backburn,

The difference is that it's pretty obvious when hoppers are hopping a pool.  But in this case, it was not readily obvious that the pool was not straightforward with the stats (or as you say, "the pool hopping hoppers").  You guys pretty much set a trap and enticed hoppers to join and hop the pool.  The more ethical way to handle the situation, at least in my humble opinion, would have been to say, "We don't want hoppers and we are delaying/faking/altering stats to prevent/distract/circumvent hopping software from hopping us"

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Hoppers aside, sounds like they fucked up (or perhaps it was intentional) and have been messing with "normal" miners payouts as well.   

[Starlightbreaker]

regular miners too.

i'm telling you, full-time miners here & other prop pool will have different output, with the same hashing power.  

if not, why are they suddenly removed time & date on the stats, once organofcorti gives the calculation?

[macboy80]

BitClockers does not support Pool Hopping


BitClockers Discussion: http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=474.0

You refer to a thread on your forum posted 2 weeks ago... What say you as to the time leading up to that thread?

If you do not support pool hopping, please consider a hop-proof method. Either you pay prop or you don't. It's real simple.

[organofcorti]

You've been outed as faking your stats, round length in particular,  and I know for certain you're underpaying miners on short rounds. It's also possible you're underpaying your miners generally, but I haven't finished the analysis yet.

How do you respond?

BitClockers does not support Pool Hopping

BitClockers Discussion: http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=484.0

Bitclockers uses available methods to reduce the negative effects of pool hopping on non hoppers.

We delay live share statistics to entice hoppers to mine longer. .

• Countermeasures only effect hoppers.
• Countermeasures May keep poorly configured hopping clients from hopping earlier

...

Your link goes on to mention:

Payouts remain Proportional

Alternative payout methods have been in discussion and hopping countermeasures have been implemented for the mean time.

Miners are encouraged to vote on their preferred rewards system, all suggestions welcome.

So you still haven't explained why your round stats are abnormal. So let me put it to your miners:

Guys, ever noticed that you don't get tiny short rounds here? on other pools you see them. Here, the smallest length round you've seen in over 300 rounds is 0.3*D. This is so unlikely that I can't really explain just how unlikely it is. Even less likely than Bitclockers coming clean. About 26% of your blocks should be less than 0.3*D.

The worst interpretation is that they've been keeping a bunch of blocks for themselves. For example, if the pool operators kept all blocks under 10^-4*D they'd have made an extra 100btc for themselves and you'd have no idea.

I'd stop mining here if I were you.

[organofcorti]

If you think its OK to hop pools, than its OK for the pool to hop hoppers.

Way to say nothing and deny nothing, backburn. I'm honestly starting to think you guys deserve the scammer tag.

[stoppots]

why are they suddenly removed time & date on the stats, once organofcorti gives the calculation?

would also hender those pay attention from seeing if a normal trend reappears now that the information is out there.

EDIT: looks like all values can be seen again on the block history stats page

[martychubbs]

You guys pulled a classic "bait and switch" on your miners.  

So, for your full time miners, how will your hopping proof technology provide 98% of avg prop returns for them?  Or where do they get the rewards from the hoppers?

So, with faking stats you're not a pool! classic prop pools faking? part time or full time miners are being robbed by the Pools themselves.   Hopping pool hoppers by a pool op?   stealing is stealing, right?  You are picking who to take from and not a bit transparent about it.

Also, if you look at http://blockchain.info/blocks/Bitclockers

You'll see that they #^@'in everybody up in here!  Full time miners check your rewards against that and your butt will hurt!

[rkozola]

for block 518(167960) the detail on your site show 0.10009215 for reward, I received 0.10009219
for block 519(167971) the detail on your site show 0.28968898 for reward, I received 0.28968901
for block 520(167987) the detail on your site show 0.23205136 for reward, I received 0.2320514
for block 521(168018) the detail on your site show 0.25102353 for reward, I received 0.18212637
for block 522(168157) the detail on your site show 0.07987705 for reward, I received 0.05876929

WTF?  Stealing on block 521 and 522???

Has the payout method changed?  or are you now scamming users too?

[wknight]

Nothing but a scamming pool. This needs the Scammer tag today

[V2-V3]

All account payouts received are correct. Aesthetic values of detailed per worker reward calculations were displaying incorrectly.

as of 25/2/2012 the per worker rewards calculator has been updated to reflect payout values.

[organofcorti]

Payouts received are correct. detailed reward calculations were displaying incorrect values.

as of 25/2/2012 the detailed rewards calculator has been updated to reflect correct values.

No, it hasn't. Until you start showing your pool's real stats nothing you post about rewards will be accurate.

[Starlightbreaker]

Payouts received are correct. detailed reward calculations were displaying incorrect values.

as of 25/2/2012 the detailed rewards calculator has been updated to reflect correct values.

oh yeah, after you took out timestamps, got caught, and changed the "calculator", now it's updated?

imagine if organofcorti didn't caught you.

[V2-V3]

when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

[organofcorti]

when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

Since you're OK with double posting, let me return the favour:

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

I'm not interested in your hopper protection - focused explanations. All I ever wanted to know from the start is why (until today edit: and since round 179) you never had a block under 0.3*D. Did you keep some for your self? No. Then if you've been respecting block boundaries you've been underpaying.

I proved without a doubt that you've been misreporting block lengths, which means  you've probably been stealing from your fulltime miners.

How about you publish the actual block lengths from rounds 179 to 504? If you can't do that you should get the scammer label.

[martychubbs]

when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.

[DeathAndTaxes]

when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.

Also even if it was true (which it isn't) then the pool isn't proportional.

[organofcorti]

when can we expect our stolen money back? no one wants to go down the scammer path:(

Bitclockers does its best to protect its users, to protect the pool from hoppers bitclockers uses anti hopper protections to mitigate the hoppers bonuses over other miners in the pool

With the Hopping bonus mitigated Hoppers are paid 100% for the shares they mined. NON-Hoppers are not effected and payouts remain 100% of shares mined.

This sounds like you just made it up.  Algorithm please?

Does a proportional reward system that pays everyone 100% no mater when they stop mining even exist? This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Meni-Wan Kenobi. You're our only hope.

• 1. There is no such thing as a 'Hopper bonus'. There is only a proportional payout system.
• 2. A strategic miner on a given proportional payout pool will receive around 1.4 to 1.6x PPS after twenty or so rounds. If you are only getting 1xPPS you aren't getting a proportional payout.
• 3. 100% of what? Not a proportional payout. If it's supposed to be 100% of PPS then I'd want to see exactly PPS reward every single round.

[teflone]

I have mined here for the last week...

I do think something is up too..  its abnormally poor payout...

And it is odd there is no short rounds..



And why is bitclockers page down ?

[cuz0882]

Why do I never receive a email after registering a account? (no, its not in the spam folder)

[V2-V3]

SERVER UPDATES IN PROGRESS

Pool development patches and upgrades being allied from 3/8/12 through 3/11/2012

Please see the Bitclockers Development thread for up to date details.

[Starlightbreaker]

SERVER UPDATES IN PROGRESS

Pool development patches and upgrades being allied from 3/8/12 through 3/11/2012

Please see the Bitclockers Development thread for up to date details.

yet still never explains anything?

you guys are truly shady.

[Clipse]

DELETED - SEEMS I WAS WRONG - BLEH

[mc_lovin]

you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this

[rjk]

you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this

And yet the pools hashrate remains. Who are you kidding, anyway?

[organofcorti]

you guys keep avoiding answering the real question being asked about stolen hashes.  the bitcoin community is too smart to be duped like this

And yet the pools hashrate remains. Who are you kidding, anyway?

Sad, that. As long as miners think they're getting paid properly, they'll ignore anything to the contrary and stay. It's just like miners at proportional pools that were just sticking their heads in the sand last year.

[P4man]

Interesting stuff:



Note the "hidden_by_user", who somehow created his worker in 1969, probably before Satoshi was even born.
During other blocks, that same user sometimes had more hashrate than the entire pool combined, I assumed it to be goat or clipse though I never understood how they could change the registration date without hacking the site. I guess it must be something registered by the poolop.

THen, and hour later, same round:



Now he actually is hidden?

More interesting stuff when you just glance over the block history. Blocks are now linked to blockexplorer, I guess that proves they are legit. Or are they? The times dont match the ones in blockexporer, I mean they are not even close. Its not a timezone issue either  with a constant number of hours difference and perhaps a few minutes fluctuation, its like there is no correlation whatsoever.  Only the day usually matches. Still ahm, stretching the length truth?

Some of the blocks are even in the wrong order. Look at blockid 570 (1722286) which was listed before blocks 571 and 572 (172345). I suppose typos can happen, if you manually invent your blocks.

I can guess the response though. " We dont support pool hopping ".
 

[Starlightbreaker]

on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?

[vmarchuk]

on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?

I also have problem with bitclockers near two days now. I dirty hopper so maybe that is problem ?

Maybe time to remove bitclocker from hopping config ? This thread make very fishy smell about bitclocker admin and I no like fishy smell. Remind me of prostitute Oksana I once meet in Kiev.

[rjk]

on top of that, my payout seems wonky again in the past few days.

did they mess with the stats again?

I also have problem with bitclockers near two days now. I dirty hopper so maybe that is problem ?

Maybe time to remove bitclocker from hopping config ? This thread make very fishy smell about bitclocker admin and I no like fishy smell. Remind me of prostitute Oksana I once meet in Kiev.

Very well said, sir. Also, I don't like fishy smells either.

[P4man]

"Hidden by user" is back. The worker created in unixtime=0. Check this out:



He has supposedly mined 60500 shares out of a total of 78000 this round.


Hypothesis: this is a fabricated worker whos purpose is to artifically inflate share count at the beginning of a round. IOW, bitclockers are hopping themselves.

Good plan: blame the hoppers, but reek in the profits yourself! No wonder they are hesitant to switch to a fair payout system.

[organofcorti]

Maybe. But more likely a proxy pool. It's getting harder to hop pools now, and 120% at bitlockers is better than nothing.

[P4man]

Maybe. But more likely a proxy pool. It's getting harder to hop pools now, and 120% at bitlockers is better than nothing.

How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?
That date is no coincidence btw, for those that dont know, unixtime is a way to format date and time thats calculated as seconds since January 1st 1970. IOW, this particular worker has an empty or "null" creation date. Probably an oversight by the pool op when he made it.

[organofcorti]

How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?

OK, good point. But since 0 seconds in unixtime is (1970,1,1) wouldn't that be a more likely null date? This looks more like a hack tag.

Still, it certainly does smell like unwashed gymclothes, and what you and Goat mention seems like the Occams razor explanation. It would be easy for the pool to come clean if not.

It is a great way for the pool to make cash though. Make a bunch of accounts and hop your own prop pool. Make it impossible for other miners to submit shares at the start of a round.

[organofcorti]

By the way, notice anything odd about the round shares on 25th March? Coincidence? Any other pool I'd say 'yes'. At bitclockers I start to wonder how they coud be profiting from it. This is the price of publishing fake stats and not being transparent.

[Clipse]

How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?

OK, good point. But since 0 seconds in unixtime is (1970,1,1) wouldn't that be a more likely null date? This looks more like a hack tag.

Still, it certainly does smell like unwashed gymclothes, and what you and Goat mention seems like the Occams razor explanation. It would be easy for the pool to come clean if not.

It is a great way for the pool to make cash though. Make a bunch of accounts and hop your own prop pool. Make it impossible for other miners to submit shares at the start of a round.

If you set your worker on hide then you get the date 1969, not everything is a conspiracy hehe

[organofcorti]

How did he manage to register in december 31, 1969?

OK, good point. But since 0 seconds in unixtime is (1970,1,1) wouldn't that be a more likely null date? This looks more like a hack tag.

Still, it certainly does smell like unwashed gymclothes, and what you and Goat mention seems like the Occams razor explanation. It would be easy for the pool to come clean if not.

It is a great way for the pool to make cash though. Make a bunch of accounts and hop your own prop pool. Make it impossible for other miners to submit shares at the start of a round.

If you set your worker on hide then you get the date 1969, not everything is a conspiracy hehe

Talking from experience, Clipse?

[P4man]

If you set your worker on hide then you get the date 1969, not everything is a conspiracy hehe

Ah, gotcha. One mystery solved.
BTW, nice hashrate your "private farm" has clipse. Thats what, ~3-400GH? And Im sure they are all yours .

[Clipse]

If you set your worker on hide then you get the date 1969, not everything is a conspiracy hehe

Ah, gotcha. One mystery solved.
BTW, nice hashrate your "private farm" has clipse. Thats what, ~3-400GH? And Im sure they are all yours .

Cute, I explain the mystery of the date that you couldnt figure out by just looking into it for 1 second rather than spewing conspiracy after conspiracy and you immediately point it to me lmao.

But I do enjoy reading your posts, its amusing since there is a couple every day and perfect for lunch break

[P4man]

Ah, clipse, there is only ONE worker hidden on bitclockers and you just happened to know the answer. Coincidence of course.

Moreover, there is not a single other worker hopping bitclockers atm that has even the hashrate you claim to have yourself (what was it, 50GH?), so either we should believe you are not hopping bitclockers at all, not even with your private farm,  or you are the hidden user.
Which is it?

[Clipse]

Ah, clipse, there is only ONE worker hidden on bitclockers and you just happened to know the answer. Coincidence of course.

Moreover, there is not a single other worker hopping bitclockers atm that has even the hashrate you claim to have yourself (what was it, 50GH?), so either we should believe you are not hopping bitclockers at all, not even with your private farm,  or you are the hidden user.
Which is it?

Thats extremely convenient that the hidden_by_user's isnt on now, cause I initially saw a couple other users displayed as hidden_by_user and the 1969 date thats when I first checked how they got such a strange date.

Where I mine with my farm is none of your business, I bet that hurts. I will give you a small hint, my farm have multiple workers on bitclockers, now sniff them out lassi.

Oh to answer your silly question, as soon as you can show me your Badge that displays , "Every person needs to answer my stupid questions" I will respond to your stupid questions.

[P4man]

Where I mine with my farm is none of your business, I bet that hurts. I will give you a small hint, my farm have multiple workers on bitclockers, now sniff them out lassi.

Im not interested in your private farm Clipse. And you would lose the bet .
Im interested in the pool you claim to operate and the blocks it isnt publishing.  

[P4man]

I suppose it could be ABCProxy then.
Id still like to see the block id's clipse has been mining at his pool, but I guess thats for another thread.

[DeepBit]

More interesting stuff when you just glance over the block history. Blocks are now linked to blockexplorer, I guess that proves they are legit. Or are they? The times dont match the ones in blockexporer, I mean they are not even close. Its not a timezone issue either  with a constant number of hours difference and perhaps a few minutes fluctuation, its like there is no correlation whatsoever.  Only the day usually matches.

I wonder why some pools still don't use block HASH instead of block height for blockexplorer links.

[organofcorti]

I suppose it could be ABCProxy then.
Id still like to see the block id's clipse has been mining at his pool, but I guess thats for another thread.

Could be ABC but I still doubt it. I honestly do not think it's real work being done.

How would the pool profit from that? Use it explain block lengths maybe?

[organofcorti]

The average pool hashrate for this pool has been under 200 Ghps for some time now.

[backburn]

Merged Mining with namecoin is currently in Beta

• Enjoy extra profit with namecoins!
• All features may not be available untill full release.

Beta 8% Pay Per Share will be effective starting on block #650

• No need to worry about hoppers
• Zero variance, predictable, Stable mining income

Questions? http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?board=2.0

[100%digital]

@backburn/V2;

been a long time member (almost a year) of the BitClockers pool, I promise i'm not trolling you.

yeah NC support is broken, it's been broken the entire time (minus 8 blocks...) -what's happening to the NC that has been mined? I mean something must be fundamentally configured incorrectly, because it's not that difficult to merge mine, and the fact that withdrawn NC hasn't propagated to network is even more fail...

regarding reporting, that's another huge fail on BC behalf, all kinds of people have voiced concern regarding the reporting that takes place, and not ONE explanation has been given! What's the deal with BC reporting? why are solved blocks not being reported accurately? I mean it would almost be better to not report at all...

there's a lot of things that really suck hard at bitclockers, but -and this is a huge but. I make more BTC at bitclockers than anywhere else...

backburn, please take the 5-10min necessary to address some of these concerns (i'm getting really tired of all the hate and shit talk that i hear everytime i talk about how awesome bitclockers is/was),

regards,

J

[seriouscoin]

@backburn/V2;

been a long time member (almost a year) of the BitClockers pool, I promise i'm not trolling you.

yeah NC support is broken, it's been broken the entire time (minus 8 blocks...) -what's happening to the NC that has been mined? I mean something must be fundamentally configured incorrectly, because it's not that difficult to merge mine, and the fact that withdrawn NC hasn't propagated to network is even more fail...

regarding reporting, that's another huge fail on BC behalf, all kinds of people have voiced concern regarding the reporting that takes place, and not ONE explanation has been given! What's the deal with BC reporting? why are solved blocks not being reported accurately? I mean it would almost be better to not report at all...

there's a lot of things that really suck hard at bitclockers, but -and this is a huge but. I make more BTC at bitclockers than anywhere else...

backburn, please take the 5-10min necessary to address some of these concerns (i'm getting really tired of all the hate and shit talk that i hear everytime i talk about how awesome bitclockers is/was),

regards,

J

which also means nothing. There is variance in mining.

I did skimped thro the thread, the lack of response concludes it for me. They're caught cheating, simple.

[organofcorti]

At least it'll be hard to cheat on PPS, and 8% fee is a realistic figure.

I'd still like them to come clean about their published stats though.

[100%digital]

I dont see BitClockers ever giving an explanation, which is sad... If they was nothing to hide, a couple sentences of explanation would change the attitude of alot of people.

Some reporting for the last three blocks they've solved;

block: 179159
time: 2012-05-08 00:34:43
hash: 00000000000007054520bd85cd1a70af48ae79b600608d45889bfe9a152a11db
relayed by: 76.73.57.125

*Bitclockers reported: May 8, 2012 @ 3:54 am (18hours 30min solve time)
___

block:179208
time: 2012-05-08 06:16:46
hash: 00000000000003169514b68dbb207173895c363977c5d37ce74f09eb14215ee1
relayed by: 76.73.57.125

*Bitclockers reported: May 8, 2012 @ 8:54 pm (17hours 0 minutes solve time)
___

block:179242
time: 2012-05-08 11:33:53
hash: 00000000000004bdda907b223fcc07a699ad3c345944d62ce38feac379879cad
relayed by: 76.73.57.125

Bitclockers reported: May 10, 2012 @ 4:04 am (31hours 9 minutes solve time)




all info was gathered via https://bitclockers.com/statistics/blockhistory and http://blockchain.info/



on a brighter note for bitclockers, it appears that NC is working correctly *good work backburn.

[V2-V3]

As of block #650 8% Pay per share is currently enabled.

Miners will receive rewards for every share submitted to the pool.

[Turbor]

Looks like some fools are still mining for them

[P4man]

Its hard to cheat on PPS. 8% is also considerably less than deepbit. I see no problem here.

Of course how much they pocketed from their miners before the switch to PPS is an open question. A round average of 2.1M shares per block and not a single short block in 6+ months suggests it might be tangible.

Looks like some fools are still mining for them

More interestingly, some fools are still trying to hop them it seems .

[P4man]

Interesting:
https://bitclockers.com/statistics/blockhistory

Notice that block 650 introduced PPS. Also notice that those recent short blocks have fake dates and all link to blocks that were actually found several days ago,  when payout was still proportional.

[organofcorti]

Even so, the short rounds are very similar in length. I haven't seen any definitive proof that they're publishing accurate round stats yet.

[P4man]

Even so, the short rounds are very similar in length. I haven't seen any definitive proof that they're publishing accurate round stats yet.

Im quite sure they arent, unless they invented time travel.
It just looks like their block faking algorithm is "catching up" and reporting all the blocks they didnt pay previously.
Doesnt matter for current miners that get paid PPS, but it just further proves what we knew all along.

[V2-V3]

All anti hopper counter measures have now been disabled.
With the successful implementation of a Pay Per Share rewards system they will no longer be needed.

[rjk]

All anti hopper counter measures have now been disabled.
With the successful implementation of a Pay Per Share rewards system they will no longer be needed.

So, how much did you make off of hidden fees from the fake stats? Be honest now.

[V2-V3]

Profitability Calculator updated with option for difficulty change over time:
http://bitclockers.com/miningcalculator

[underminer]

No it doesn't account for profit stealing.  I started at this pool and earned about .55 coin a day from around 3000 mhs.  (This is about half what I would expect from any calculator, I suspect I was earning around 1.1 coin/day.)

On a side note, and full disclosure here, I did just get myself banned from the forums by poaching miners.  I kind of wanted to see what it would take, and that was all it took!  I had inappropriate posts up for approx 1 week.
It seems russian porn being posted every day in every section (pushing real threads to the bottom) is no problem however!

PMs to staff where ignored for the duration of my stay.

-Assholes all 'round, don't mine @bitcockers!

[poon-TANG]

73 hour round...........................ouch!!!!

[GlenBot]

Warning to anyone dumb enough to still be mining with bitclockers.com; I'm unable to withdraw my accumulated BTC using their dashboard.  There are a bunch of people posting in bitclockers.com/forums with the same complaint.  No response from bitclockers admins.

[Dark Shroud]

And currently their website is down. I should have switched from them two days earlier. It's annoying but I only have 0.6x BTC in that tracker. As opposed to others that for whatever reason left large amounts of Bitcoins in their account.

They had dropped from around 215 G/Hash to around 175 G/Hash. I know I pulled my 2.5 G/Hash worth of workers and I know a few other people who pulled their systems as well. BitClockers lost around 9 G/Hash from us alone.

[Dark Shroud]

BitClockers is still down with no word from anyone. It looks like their pool is also shut down now.

I think its safe to say they fled with the money.

[organofcorti]

I suppose I'll never get any answers about what they were doing to alter their stats in 2011. I always hoped I'd know for sure one day.

[Bitsinmyhead]

Scammer tag time.

[iCEBREAKER]

Scammer tag time.

Scammer tag was due a long time ago, when they offered (baited me with) an ASUS VGA to the top hasher then switched to "guess what, now it's a random lottery drawing."

[Dark Shroud]

Well their site and forums are back up. They claim they're under a DDOS and working on it.

Here is the thread on it.

http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=1803.0

They dropped from over 210 G/Hash down to 54 G/Hash. If they start paying out properly again I might go back just to get a large piece of the pie.

[Transisto]

Bitclocker has been holding onto our BTC for almost a month.

What's so hard to give an update saying the truth ?

Have you been hacked ? Have you lost our btc playing Satoshi dice ?
 In the absence of an answer I can only deduce you're intending on scamming us.

[moargame]

Hello! Why do I have disconnected miners, the rate has fallen to 6?
on the pool issue?
I noticed a problem with the calculation?

[Transisto]

Hello! Why do I have disconnected miners, the rate has fallen to 6?
on the pool issue?
I noticed a problem with the calculation?

What are you trying to mine there ?  It turned into a scam a while ago.

[Turbor]

Hello! Why do I have disconnected miners, the rate has fallen to 6?
on the pool issue?
I noticed a problem with the calculation?

Just change the pool.

[moargame]

This pool is paid incorrectly? At this pool, I have a very high speed, I do not want to leave it. Tell me, is maining on it?

[Turbor]

  perhaps they still fake the stats so you get "high speed"...

[whpulsar85]

Just tried to access the site and getting a database error... Have they shut the site down?

[Landstander]

I just noticed this as well. I'll give it a day before assuming they mean to try to run from their obligations. Perhaps then will be the time to pursue arbitration.

[louisBSAS]

Same here - I have .48 stuck there - can't get on the forums. 

As soon as I noticed, I gave it a day and quit mining on Bitclockers.  It used to be my primary pool - sad.

[Qbert]

I'm surprised people are still mining on this pool.  Did you guys not read any of the stuff that went down last year with the faked stats?

[pirate1]

Used to be my pool but when they stopped paying out people's bitcoins I moved.  I just got the last of my namecoins out of here a few days ago.  Was thinking I would just forget about them but then I didn't realize what they were worth.  I ended up getting 1.16 bitcoins for 179 or them.  Nice found money to me.  Can't believe anyone is still mining there but then again they used to be my favorite pool.  Mt Red and Ozcoin have shown how it should be handled when things go funny.  Let your people know and most of us will work with you.  Not telling anyone anything or lying or locking up people's coins without explanation is not how to handle it.

[sippsnapp]

Bitclockers owes me bitcoins and stats not updated ie balance not accurate. By now i have given up on this.

[Starlightbreaker]

there's a reason why people nicknamed this pool shitclockers.

[sippsnapp]

Why is bitclockers still online when its a scammer pool, and why are the user accounts here still active? They even rank bigtime in google.

They are listed even on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools  ,,

[warhawk187]

To all of those out there who had BTC trapped at the BitClockers pool, try and get your BTC back NOW, INSTANT PAYOUT WORKED today 6/24/13. It was not working for the past 3 months. Good luck. I luckily only had 0.15 in there but I know people that have ALOT more in there.

[Landstander]

Thanks for the notice, glad you got your BTC out. I was too late, maybe next time...