Bitcoin Forum
October 16, 2018, 12:50:20 AM *
News: Make sure you are not using versions of Bitcoin Core other than 0.17.0 [Torrent], 0.16.3, 0.15.2, or 0.14.3. More info.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Is Bitcoin Money or Currency  (Read 5236 times)
magic ice
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 37
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:31:11 PM
 #1

mon·ey (noun)

- a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.
---


cur·ren·cy read as ˈkərənsē (noun)


-a system of money in general use in a particular country.

So, is bitcoin money or currency?
1539651020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1539651020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1539651020
Reply with quote  #2

1539651020
Report to moderator
Bitcoin mining is now a specialized and very risky industry, just like gold mining. Amateur miners are unlikely to make much money, and may even lose money. Bitcoin is much more than just mining, though!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1539651020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1539651020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1539651020
Reply with quote  #2

1539651020
Report to moderator
1539651020
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1539651020

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1539651020
Reply with quote  #2

1539651020
Report to moderator
Jakesy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 82
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
 #2

Money is unreal, meaning imaginary, intangible - a concept.

Currency is NOT money, but merely represents money.
magic ice
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 37
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:38:13 PM
 #3

Money is unreal, meaning imaginary, intangible - a concept.

Currency is NOT money, but merely represents money.

So, bitcoin is... ?
tokeweed
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918
Merit: 1034


Life, Love and Laughter...


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
 #4

If you think about it, it's like a new class of whatever's considered as "value".  This (crypto-currencies) is something we haven't seen before, really.  Some people think it's just a passing fad.  We'll see.

.FORTUNE.JACK.
      ▄▄███████▄▄
   ▄████▀▀ ▄ ██████▄
  ████ ▄▄███ ████████
 █████▌▐███▌ ▀▄ ▀█████
███████▄██▀▀▀▀▄████████
█████▀▄▄▄▄█████████████
████▄▄▄▄ █████████████
 ██████▌ ███▀████████
  ███████▄▀▄████████
   ▀█████▀▀███████▀
      ▀▀██████▀▀
         
         █
...FortuneJack.com                                             
...THE BIGGEST BITCOIN GAMBLING SITE
       ▄▄█████████▄▄
    ▄█████████████████▄
  ▄█████████████████████▄
 ▄██
█████████▀███████████▄
██████████▀   ▀██████████
█████████▀       ▀█████████
████████           ████████
████████▄   ▄ ▄   ▄████████
██████████▀   ▀██████████
 ▀██
█████████████████████▀
  ▀██
███████████████████▀
    ▀█████████████████▀
       ▀▀█████████▀▀
#JACKMATE
WIN 1 BTC
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████████▀█████▀██████████
███████▀░░▀░░░░░▀░░▀███████
██████▌░░░░░░░░░░░░░▐██████
██████░░░░██░░░██░░░░██████
█████▌░░░░▀▀░░░▀▀░░░░▐█████
██████▄░░▄▄▄░░░▄▄▄░░▄██████
████████▄▄███████▄▄████████

███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
ensurance982
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


Trust me!


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
 #5

Both, of course. And topmost it is also a payment system. Oh, and it is a technology to prove ownership over something (Bitcoins in the most basic form) on a distributed no-trust-requiring public ledger.

                                                                                                                      We Support Currencies: BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP
DLCseller
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 308
Merit: 250


( -_・)ノ-=≡[$(∞)$]


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:41:20 PM
 #6

BOTH! Its a crypto-CURRENCY that is used as money.
Amph
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2002
Merit: 1001



View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
 #7

both because in contrast to the dollar, bitcoin is a store of value currency, the dollar instead isn't

there was a video talking about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU
Ron~Popeil
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 406
Merit: 250



View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
 #8

I would consider it to be money right now. As more and more people use it it will be a currency. It is more than either option though. It is a technology that can and will change everything from elections to contract law.

Jakesy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 82
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 01:59:37 PM
 #9

Money is unreal, meaning imaginary, intangible - a concept.

Currency is NOT money, but merely represents money.

So, bitcoin is... ?

They answered it below, both.

It's not tangible - it's a concept.  However, we can assign it to individual addresses to spend it like currency.

Bitcoin is truly a first in human history, where we put theory to action.
DannyHamilton
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2198
Merit: 1381



View Profile
April 08, 2015, 02:02:29 PM
 #10

mon·ey (noun)

- a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.
---


cur·ren·cy read as ˈkərənsē (noun)


-a system of money in general use in a particular country.

So, is bitcoin money or currency?

It's a silly question since the answer is entirely subjective.

There are many working definitions of "money" and "currency" depending on the field of study and circumstances where the words are being used, so first you need to choose the very specific definition of those words that you are asking about.

I see that you've listed the two definitions that you are asking about, however, even those definitions are ambiguous.

I think that most bitcointalk members would be willing to agree that bitcoin is "a current medium of exchange", but you'd have to define what you mean by the words "in the form of coins" before we can determine if bitcoin lives up to your personal definition of the word "money".  Since they are called bitcoins does that mean they are "in the form of coins"?  If so, then yes bitcoin is "money" according to the definition that you have presented.

As for currency, clearly from the definition you've chosen it would have to be "a system of money".  Therefore, if you decide that it isn't "in the form of coins" then it is neither money nor currency.  If you decide that it is "in the form of coins", then it only needs to be "in general use" to be considered "currency" according to the definition that you've chosen.  Since I live in a country, and I've "generally" used bitcoin to pay for several things "Television, Camera, Vacation, Newspaper, Satellite TV service, etc) then it would seem to pass your "in general use in a country" test.

Therefore, once you tell us whether you consider bitcoin to be "in the form of coins", we can tell you whether it either meets both your definitions of "money" and "currency" OR neither of your definitions of "money" or "currency".

ChuckBuck
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 840
Merit: 510


Vietnamese translator - https://goo.gl/Muc9xi


View Profile WWW
April 08, 2015, 02:20:07 PM
 #11



So, is bitcoin money or currency?

Bitcoin is money, currency, AND probably the most relevant and best feature...a protocol.

Bitcoin's Blockchain sets it apart from the fiats and golds...


.......PLAY MOBILE GAMES MINE ......
███      CRYPTO-TOKENS EARN REAL MONEY      ███
                    ▄▄██▄▄
                ▄▄██████████▄▄
            ▄▄███████▀▀▀████████▄
         ▄███████▀▀        ▀███████▄▄
     ▄▄███████▀      ▄▄▄▄      ▀███████▄▄
     ███████▄      ▒███████▄▄     ▀▀█████
      ▀▀███████▄▄     ▀▀███████▄▄     ▀▀█
          ▀▀███████▄▄     ▀▀███████▄
     ██▄      ▀███████▄▄      ▀████████▄
    ▐█████▄▄      ▀███████▄▄      ▀██████
      ▀███████▄▄     ▀▀███████▄▄     ▀▀██
         ▀▀███████▄▄     ▀▀███████▄▄
    ▐█▄▄     ▀▀███████▄      ▀▀███████▄▄
    ▐█████▄      ▀████████▄      ▀███████
     ▀███████▄▄      ▀█▀▀      ▄████████▀
         ▀███████▄▄        ▄▄███████▀
            ▀▀███████▄▄▄▄███████▀▀
                ▀▀██████████▀▀
                    ▀▀██▀▀
.
     
        █░████████████████████   █░████████████████████            ██████░           ██████                  ████░░  ████████████████████  ███░████ ███████░ ███   ░███           
       ██████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░    ░██░██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░           ░████░██░░          ███████░              ██████░░  █████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░   █████░   ██████░  ███   ░██░           
       █████                     ░██░█                          ████░█░█████         █████████            ███████░░  █████                 ███░     ███ ░███ ████ ░███             
       ░░████░░░░░░░░░░░░░███    ░██░█                         █████░   █████        ██████████░         ░██░████░░  █████░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░  ███░     ███  ░███ ░██████             
         ██░█████████████████░█  ░██░█             ███░█     ░█████      █████░      █████ ████░█      ██████ ███░░  ██████████████████░░                                         
                          █████  ░██░█             █████    █░██░█        ░░████     █████  █░████   ░█████   ███░░  █████                                                         
                          █░███  ░██░█             ░████   ██████          ░█████    █████   ░██████████░█    ███░░  █████                                                         
        ██████████████████░████  ███████████████████████ ░█████              ██████  █████     █░███████░     ███░░  ████████████████████                                         
       ░██████████████████████    █░████████████████░█░ ██████                ██████ █████      ░██████       ███░░  ████████████████████ 
.

▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█   ▄▄▄▄▄▄   ██▄
█  ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌  ████▄
█  ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌  ███████▄
█  ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▌  ▐▓███████▄
█              ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
█  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █
█                      █
█  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █
█  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  █
█                      █
█  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  █
█                      █
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.

                              ▄████▄
                        ▄▄█████▀▀███
                    ▄▄████▀▀     ███
              ▄▄▄████▀▀    ▄▄   ▐██
          ▄▄█████▀       ▄█▀    ██▌
     ▄▄████▀▀▀       ▄███▀      ██▌
    ████▀        ▄▄████▀       ▐██
     ██████▄▄  ▄█████▀         ██▌
          ▀████████           ▐██
            ▀████▌            ███
             ▀███  ▄██▄▄     ▐██▀
              ███▄███▀███▄   ███
              ▀███▀▀   ▀▀███▄██▌
                          ▀▀█▀▀
tokeweed
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918
Merit: 1034


Life, Love and Laughter...


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 02:22:17 PM
 #12



So, is bitcoin money or currency?

Bitcoin is money, currency, AND probably the most relevant and best feature...a protocol.

Bitcoin's Blockchain sets it apart from the fiats and golds...



And it has real world value too...  At 245 per coin?  That's not bad really...

.FORTUNE.JACK.
      ▄▄███████▄▄
   ▄████▀▀ ▄ ██████▄
  ████ ▄▄███ ████████
 █████▌▐███▌ ▀▄ ▀█████
███████▄██▀▀▀▀▄████████
█████▀▄▄▄▄█████████████
████▄▄▄▄ █████████████
 ██████▌ ███▀████████
  ███████▄▀▄████████
   ▀█████▀▀███████▀
      ▀▀██████▀▀
         
         █
...FortuneJack.com                                             
...THE BIGGEST BITCOIN GAMBLING SITE
       ▄▄█████████▄▄
    ▄█████████████████▄
  ▄█████████████████████▄
 ▄██
█████████▀███████████▄
██████████▀   ▀██████████
█████████▀       ▀█████████
████████           ████████
████████▄   ▄ ▄   ▄████████
██████████▀   ▀██████████
 ▀██
█████████████████████▀
  ▀██
███████████████████▀
    ▀█████████████████▀
       ▀▀█████████▀▀
#JACKMATE
WIN 1 BTC
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████████▀█████▀██████████
███████▀░░▀░░░░░▀░░▀███████
██████▌░░░░░░░░░░░░░▐██████
██████░░░░██░░░██░░░░██████
█████▌░░░░▀▀░░░▀▀░░░░▐█████
██████▄░░▄▄▄░░░▄▄▄░░▄██████
████████▄▄███████▄▄████████

███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
sana54210
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1246
Merit: 1003


OneHash.com - Leading Mutual Betting & Casino


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
 #13

mon·ey (noun)

- a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.
---


cur·ren·cy read as ˈkərənsē (noun)


-a system of money in general use in a particular country.

So, is bitcoin money or currency?

Bitcoin connects money, currency and remittance and is going to be the future of money in the world. It is a crypto currency controlled by no centralized power.

erikalui
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000


View Profile WWW
April 08, 2015, 02:55:02 PM
 #14

Bitcoin is mainly a virtual currency and a system of money NOT used by any country. It can be converted into a currency whether USD/EURO which are recognized currencies.

Amevalentine
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 672
Merit: 250


PlayGame.com


View Profile WWW
April 08, 2015, 02:59:36 PM
 #15

it is both,

as it affected by market regulation also like currency, and said money because its valued on real.

████████████████████████████
████████████████████████████
█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█████
█████                  █████
█████                  █████
█████      ▄▄▄▄▄▄      █████
█████      ██████      █████
█████      ██████      █████
▀▀▀▀▀      ▀▀▀▀▀▀      █████
                       █████
                       █████
▄▄▄▄▄      ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█████
█████      █████████████████
█████      █████████████████
PLAYGAME.
▄█████▄
██▀ ▀██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██
██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██▄ ▄██
▀█████▀
.
▄█████▄
██▀ ▀██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
██  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██▄ ▄██
▀█████▀
.
.
.
.
▄█████▄
██▀ ▀██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄  ██
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██▄ ▄██
▀█████▀
.
▄█████▄
██▀ ▀██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
 ██
 ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██   ██
██▄ ▄██
▀█████▀
Medium
Twitter
YouTube
NyeFe
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 696
Merit: 500


MicroDApp.com—Smart Contract developers.


View Profile WWW
April 08, 2015, 03:21:28 PM
 #16

Bitcoin is neither.

It's digital GOLD

MicroDApp.com—Smart Contract developers. Lets build a decentralized future!
umair01
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 08, 2015, 03:27:49 PM
 #17

Money most of the time in this generation has been governed by a centralized power, Bitcoin is the decentralized form of money we have, which is more convenient and easy to remit, To answer your question it is both currency and money.
umairsaleem
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 08, 2015, 03:30:59 PM
 #18

Bitcoin is some kind of assets and it's can be exchanged to other form of assets, in my opinion, it's still money but definitely not a currecny, some people are even asking to close digital good section which use Bitcoin as exchanging currency, so how can you call Bitcoin a currency?
RonPaulBTC
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 66
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 08, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
 #19

Bitcoin is everything, can be used any way you please, holding asset, currency, or even cash.
funkenstein
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1023
Merit: 1010


Khazad ai-menu!


View Profile WWW
April 08, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
 #20

Your quoted defintions suck don't they.  

Money is "monnaie", coming from "Juno Moneta":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneta

This word has a little bit of history pointing towards a "State" interpretation, which depending on what that means to you it might suggest bitcoin is not really money.  Some have certainly claimed so and this is a defensible claim in the context of it not being coinage of a Romanesque State-claiming apparatus.  

On the other hand, in common English money has taken more of a general usage, (i.e. the money shot, "that was money", "what's up money?", etc.)  and as such is more often taken to mean any exchange commodity.  Because any and all things could be used as exchange commodities, we could therefore argue that bitcoin is an effective money.  Context is important here going between the different meanings.  

As to currency, this implies a "running" or a flow, meaning that many people use it.  Cigarettes are therefore currency in some places but not in others.  Bitcoin is currency insomuch as (if) there is a large community of people using it as an exchange commodity.  


"Give me control over a coin's checkpoints and I care not who mines its blocks."
http://vtscc.org  http://woodcoin.info
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!