Obama or Romney ?

[Kluge]

just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Gah. I hope you were talking about the Communist Party candidate. Obama could hardly even be called a progressive. The only real difference between Obama and Romney is black and white.... or blue and red - the rest is all marketing. One wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism, and the other wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism - and neither has a comprehensive plan to pay for these programs (less "by 2020, my plan will have eliminated our deficit... (but when the people who aren't grandfathered into their welfare being cut are about to feel it, politicians revert, and nothing changes."). - And that's not even the worst of it. When these fucks are compromising, the end product is corporatism -- government funding select corporations for welfare/warfare handouts... because having the government do the work is "Communism," so that's the great accomplishment Republicans have given the US: instead of citizens paying the government to direct money, citizens pay the government to pay the corporations to direct money. Great. I swear - the only thing going for Obama is that he isn't Romney - and the only thing going for Romney is that he isn't Obama. We've got this.... fucking......... - and..... ugh - out of whiskey, again.

[dirtycat]

just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Facepalm

no need for facepalm I'm just not part of the obama zombie bandwagon.

[mdude77]

Anyone who votes for the compulsive liar that is Mitt Romney and isn't extremely wealthy is an idiot. Since we are only given two choices with a chance of winning in this great country of ours it would be the obvious decision to vote for Obama because he isn't a crazy person. I don't agree with some things Obama has done or hasn't done but I also agree with some things he has or hasn't done. Mitt Romney is just a dishonest person. Whether this is related to the Mormon teachings of lying to people for the greater good or just his greed and desire for the power? Only Mitt knows that. That's why their budget math DOES NOT WORK and they want to tear down church state separations. They are just telling their base what they want then telling the moderates an entirely different story every day. They stuck Ryan on the ticket to suck in some young voters. Everything they do is a plan to mislead and dazzle enough ignorant people into letting their buddies get back to the Bush days of stuffing their pockets and shitting on the country. Jesus fuck people, it's only been 4 years since Bush and Co. decimated this country and it's constitution. Things are starting to get better in reality and not the GOP bubble. Don't go back to that clusterfuck.

Never again will I vote for the lesser of two weevils, and they are BOTH weevils!!  They are both liars and both career politicians (that's redundant, I know).

They're both clowns from competing circuses.  What the establishment tries to hide is both circuses are run by the same powers, so people think they're getting a choice, but not really, as a weevil is a weevil.  Both will lead to further destruction and ruin of the US.

I'm a Ron Paul fan, but because of republican shenanigans, I don't believe he's on the ballot in all states like Gary Johnson is.  So I'm voting for Gary.

M

[Fiyasko]

Im going to freaking cry if Romney wins,
Im Canadian Roight, So i have no vote in this matter, But when FUCKING HARPER was elected, It was pure bullshit Seriously, He tried as hard as he could to rig the election, Even Routing RoboCalls throgh the Liberal party telling expected NDP voters that "This is service canada, Your voting ballot location has changed to XYZ bullshitspot"

So now we have a Liberalistic Conservative goverment, Seriously, The son of a bitch sold Enbridge Pipleline shares to china, When the pipleline is being fucking protested against and getting railroaded everychance we can get at it.

So the asshole goes "Oh i'll just sell a Chunk of it to china so that China has a say in the matter of weather or not the pipleline gets built, I CANT CONTROL CHINA GUISE!"
Fucking idiot doesnt understand what he's done.

[firefop]

From the outside Obama seems to have been a rather kick ass president.
People are always gonna be pissed of with whoever's in power.
We all expect our leaders to look after us specifically, who cares about the rest of the population.
Besides being blamed for the wall street crash what else stands against everyone revoting for him?

It may be opposition propaganda, but it does seem like Romney will say anything to get elected.
And he seems to think he's smarter than the entire country:
You want to see my tax returns? You'll have to elect me first.

From the inside Obama has been ineffective, that's according to both sides. He's been largely unable to cram legislation through since his healthcare bill was legislated away (and it should be noted that he's had a democratic majority - his own party - and still couldn't get anything passed).

The USA is gearing up for a cultural war (my person opinion) It's going to center around tax policy, government spending and the 'failed wars mentallity' (war on drug / poverty / education / the rich / etc)

It's a testament to how bad Obama actually is that Romeny, who is really a very weak candidate in general is neck-in-neck with him. I think most Americans are starting to figure out that we probably won't get sanity out of any president.

[Explodicle]

just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Facepalm

no need for facepalm I'm just not part of the obama zombie bandwagon.

If you're convinced that the best vote against socialism is for someone who is slightly less socialist, then I'm sad to inform you that you are indeed a zombie. People like you are directly responsible for corporatism and our endless cycle of war. You are a useful idiot.

[Arto]

[myrkul]

[dirtycat]

just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Facepalm

no need for facepalm I'm just not part of the obama zombie bandwagon.

If you're convinced that the best vote against socialism is for someone who is slightly less socialist, then I'm sad to inform you that you are indeed a zombie. People like you are directly responsible for corporatism and our endless cycle of war. You are a useful idiot.

it happens

[mdude77]

Actually.. Ron Paul and Gary Johnson do, and would keep their promises.  That's why the establishment is so scared of them!

M

[jasinlee]

Until money is not an influence on campaigns / parties the media will ignore idealists since they are not going to help them out later with legislation. Ron Paul probably would have crapped all over Fox and MSNBC if he were to become president. And with good reason too, but the media outlets are run by people with political opinions that they prefer, and would rather one person or the other to win to further their companies goals.

[mdude77]

Until money is not an influence on campaigns / parties the media will ignore idealists since they are not going to help them out later with legislation. Ron Paul probably would have crapped all over Fox and MSNBC if he were to become president. And with good reason too, but the media outlets are run by people with political opinions that they prefer, and would rather one person or the other to win to further their companies goals.

+1

Bingo!  Unfortunately in today's state of affairs, if you the government says one thing, the reality is something else.  If the media supports a politician, run, don't walk, run as far as you can from that person!

M

[jasinlee]

Didnt you know that Money = Speech, so the more money you have the more you can talk! Hurray for democracy.

[Littleshop]

just sent in my early ballot.. Romney all the way!  just wouldn't feel right voting for a commie.

Gah. I hope you were talking about the Communist Party candidate. Obama could hardly even be called a progressive. The only real difference between Obama and Romney is black and white.... or blue and red - the rest is all marketing. One wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism, and the other wants to continue (and/or has a history of continuing) social and corporate welfare, while expanding military adventurism - and neither has a comprehensive plan to pay for these programs (less "by 2020, my plan will have eliminated our deficit... (but when the people who aren't grandfathered into their welfare being cut are about to feel it, politicians revert, and nothing changes."). - And that's not even the worst of it. When these fucks are compromising, the end product is corporatism -- government funding select corporations for welfare/warfare handouts... because having the government do the work is "Communism," so that's the great accomplishment Republicans have given the US: instead of citizens paying the government to direct money, citizens pay the government to pay the corporations to direct money. Great. I swear - the only thing going for Obama is that he isn't Romney - and the only thing going for Romney is that he isn't Obama. We've got this.... fucking......... - and..... ugh - out of whiskey, again.

Obama is almost as republican as Regan.  Even the healthcare plan so many are calling 'commie/socialism' is to the right of Regan proposals. 

[Bitware]

Gary Johnson 2012

[kokojie]

There are several issues that makes Obama a deal breaker for me, not that I really like Romney, but right now, Romney looks a million times better than Obama:

* Obama supports AA, Romney is against
* Obama supports legalizing tens of millions of illegals, Romney is against
* Obama increased the national debt by 6T in 4 years, I don't think anyone else in the Republican party can top that. I mean even the supposedly bad president GWB only increased the debt by 4.4T in 8 years, and he fought 2 wars.

[Littleshop]

There are several issues that makes Obama a deal breaker for me, not that I really like Romney, but right now, Romney looks a million times better than Obama:

* Obama supports AA, Romney is against
* Obama supports legalizing tens of millions of illegals, Romney is against
* Obama increased the national debt by 6T in 4 years, I don't think anyone else in the Republican party can top that. I mean even the supposedly bad president GWB only increased the debt by 4.4T in 8 years, and he fought 2 wars.

What the heck is AA?  Alcoholics  Anonymous? 

The level of Illegals we have are good for the economy (we may not have enough right now) and contrary to media reports commit fewer crimes then average.

The debt should be cut.  Neither has a realistic plan for dealing with it.   

[dirtycat]

The level of Illegals we have are good for the economy (we may not have enough right now) and contrary to media reports commit fewer crimes then average.
 

I live on a border state and yes they do commit the majority of crimes.

[firefop]

The level of Illegals we have are good for the economy (we may not have enough right now) and contrary to media reports commit fewer crimes then average.
 

I live on a border state and yes they do commit the majority of crimes.

Every illegal is by definition a criminal - 100% of the illegal population is here illegally. 

[myrkul]

The level of Illegals we have are good for the economy (we may not have enough right now) and contrary to media reports commit fewer crimes then average.
 

I live on a border state and yes they do commit the majority of crimes.

Most of what you're seeing is crime which is created by the border - smuggling, and it's attendant violence, for instance, or crimes which the illegals cross the border specifically to commit. I remember reading about Mexican gangs crossing over to kidnap wealthy Americans, for example. Away from the border, the illegals you see mostly just want to work and send money back home. Committing crimes over here only gets in the way of that.