Obama or Romney ?

[mdude77]

If career politicians are an issue, why not just add term limits?  Limiting our representatives to those with independent (or family) wealth is not a good plan IMO.

Speaking of representation, did you know the house of representatives used to grow with the population?  There used to be an upper limit of 60k people per representative.  In order to be that close to direct representation today would require 30,000 representatives rather than the measly 435 we have today.  It seems to me that this is why only the powerful can influence politics... each representative has too much to handle to deal with the issues of the average constituent.

Term limits are a good idea.  Especially with lifelong appointed judges.  That, speaking of which, should be elected, not appointed.

I know about the house deal.  That's one of my responses to people who claim the census is for adequate representation of the masses.  I personally think we should have 30,000 reps.  Then absolutely NOTHING would get done unless it had to.  That'd be awesome!  No more feel good legislation!!

M

[Atlas]

That equates to about 50,000 usd per person in the US. 

Actually, over 40% of that debt is owed to American citizens and corporations (no, they are not the same).  Love my T-Bills 

The Federal Reserve debt is certainly not nationalized but owed to shareholders of the NY bank.

[C10H15N]

This means the return interest rate is lower than the rate of inflation, so it is worth less at the end than at the beginning, right? Why would anybody buy such a thing?

Capital preservation.  Minimizing risk during economic upheaval may be more important than outperforming inflation.

[myrkul]

Of course.  Backed by my faith in the American taxpayers.

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Pretty much what I would expect from someone who uses methamphetamine as their username.

[C10H15N]

That equates to about 50,000 usd per person in the US.  

Actually, over 40% of that debt is owed to American citizens and corporations (no, they are not the same).  Love my T-Bills  

The Federal Reserve debt is certainly not nationalized but owed to shareholders of the NY bank.

That 6% statutory dividend looks pretty good right now.

Of course.  Backed by my faith in the American taxpayers.

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Pretty much what I would expect from someone who uses methamphetamine as their username.

Makes a great first impression.  

[notme]

If career politicians are an issue, why not just add term limits?  Limiting our representatives to those with independent (or family) wealth is not a good plan IMO.

Speaking of representation, did you know the house of representatives used to grow with the population?  There used to be an upper limit of 60k people per representative.  In order to be that close to direct representation today would require 30,000 representatives rather than the measly 435 we have today.  It seems to me that this is why only the powerful can influence politics... each representative has too much to handle to deal with the issues of the average constituent.

Term limits are a good idea.  Especially with lifelong appointed judges.  That, speaking of which, should be elected, not appointed.

I know about the house deal.  That's one of my responses to people who claim the census is for adequate representation of the masses.  I personally think we should have 30,000 reps.  Then absolutely NOTHING would get done unless it had to.  That'd be awesome!  No more feel good legislation!!

M

I disagree about the judges, unless maybe if the term limit is one term with a really long length.  Elections of people who are supposed to be objective and fair is a recipe for disaster.

[Littleshop]

Actually, over 40% of that debt is owed to American citizens and corporations (no, they are not the same).  Love my T-Bills 

You do know it's a negative equity investment, right?

Tbills are less risk then gold (many people will disagree with that but my opinion), safer then cash and they do stop some of the loss of inflation.  Tbills are a reasonable choice forsomeone with cash savings.  I personally feel real estate is better right now due to it being undervalued but that is a risk just like gold.

[mdude77]

I disagree about the judges, unless maybe if the term limit is one term with a really long length.  Elections of people who are supposed to be objective and fair is a recipe for disaster.

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

Atleast we have a choice between two clowns for president.  We have no choice on federal judges, or the supreme court.  Once they're in, they're in.

M

[notme]

I disagree about the judges, unless maybe if the term limit is one term with a really long length.  Elections of people who are supposed to be objective and fair is a recipe for disaster.

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

Atleast we have a choice between two clowns for president.  We have no choice on federal judges, or the supreme court.  Once they're in, they're in.

M

Where does it say congress or the president should be fair and objective?

[Transisto]

You guys should really listen to today's No Agenda show.

http://feed.nashownotes.com/rss.xml

Watching these debates, so you don't have to.

[CoinDiver]

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

That way people would understand they have no say in the matter. This is little more than a pretense of choice these days.

[mdude77]

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

That way people would understand they have no say in the matter. This is little more than a pretense of choice these days.

Actually, we still DO have a choice.  Most are led to believe that they do not.  Unlike countries like china, the people still have a say in the matter, if they choose to do so, and are educated enough to know so.  The latter is the problem right now.

M

[RicRock]

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

Atleast we have a choice between two clowns for president.  We have no choice on federal judges, or the supreme court.  Once they're in, they're in.

M

Every representative/senator/president should be chosen randomly from "real" people... they'd do less damage on accident than a career politician does on purpose.

[mdude77]

Using that logic, we should have appointed congressmen and presidents too.

Atleast we have a choice between two clowns for president.  We have no choice on federal judges, or the supreme court.  Once they're in, they're in.

M

Every representative/senator/president should be chosen randomly from "real" people... they'd do less damage on accident than a career politician does on purpose.

I like that idea!

M

[CoinDiver]

Every representative/senator/president should be chosen randomly from "real" people... they'd do less damage on accident than a career politician does on purpose.

+2

[420]

Newest documentary of 1000 showing romney flip flop:

(it also gets into Obama and their similarities interestingly enough):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eERIU4JC6s

[SaintDevil]

Voting for Obama.

But isn't american voting system is kind of screwed up. They should have a scoring system, where you score every candidate and then the person with most scores win.

[myrkul]

Voting for Obama.

Mind if I ask why? Especially if you live in a "red" state?

[SgtSpike]

Voting for Obama.

But isn't american voting system is kind of screwed up. They should have a scoring system, where you score every candidate and then the person with most scores win.

If you mean scoring in the same sense that a glassworker does, then I'm all for it!

[jasinlee]

Voting for Obama.

But isn't american voting system is kind of screwed up. They should have a scoring system, where you score every candidate and then the person with most scores win.

They do use a system like that, thats why they visit certain states only when they campaign. Those states have more potential points so they can win the game.