DaBitcoinGuy
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April 17, 2015, 06:56:54 PM |
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I honestly hope he does well in court today, he needs a win after his ban.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 08:35:28 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.10.pdf15. Identify all bitcoin addresses operated, owned, utilized, or otherwise controlled by Defendant or Defendant’s agents or employees.
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BF Labs objects to this Interrogatory to the extent it seeks information relating to the bitcoin addresses owned by BF Labs’ agents or employees that are not operated, owned, utilized, or otherwise controlled by BF Labs. BF Labs will not answer this interrogatory to the extent it seeks such information. Subject to the foregoing objection,
18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu 14uocwfztA3GQpT1RT6jST9gw1B6pNPEWM 15os4NVs4BqCJg1SaijQJC7T8aLQM7YeY8 1LaWJTs6xbDAvrf6YFRWGnPRNY6UkP98WD 13PVf3oUrbpEJZYoEaouKvR5rqp2x1j84k 14c2bDM17reCLH68uubeSeQygnM2uo5zY2 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs 1DYqanUjJ6hGaECPj2CMatbW1uBduRWaw8 12HmUEdk3fqz9W4SEf1xjxPqvkGDqAqHyc 13vx46HBN8FViQAy4uFkdvUX5RjAFAuXsY 1EGknUZnQCLTBHH7v2f7PP8vkY42zHbY8y 38PEdxeoJUf12RTzg7Ay6Pu7kV7pqxHA1q 1MPYyQiJ16JpfQ1ab2cVEfncNGo5GLU77a 13cWs3fZDcB4x6myLGByZBVhWiMFYX5QD3 1FLhdDdX5b3A8Jt7uTeLmRnRugR8Dd5syT 1ERVh27gZfPSDaaagL9R3W12xpMJ38ZBA7 15v3sXGh6PDpQXcCmVYRf7H2ryRL5EVsu6 18M9o2mXNjNR96yKe7eyY6pfP6Nx4Nso3d 1NKygkkRpjDmboWEXXEsAFDEKheZ2pBVxo 1GhYFmoDgtyJsYFFWhZ2YmeVj2GHsTPTUC 1BM8dkK77yvwGk7ucqoNn8eDTBFy8jXjLQ The above answer was provided by Dave McClain. It's possible that his moles are affected his brain and developing early signs of Mutrux Decease because he forgot to add the 12uyvDAC8LNU8yGcW8dYLGPToSD2JenVf address. Since we're only talking about a million dollars worth of bitcoins that funneled through that account, I guess we can let it slide as being irrelevant.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 08:43:38 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.10.pdf17. Identify all current and former employees of Defendant or non-employees who have operated in the capacity of a manager or supervisor for Defendant.
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Sonny Vleisides – VP of Product Development Nasser Ghoseiri – Chief Technology Officer Jeff Ownby – VP of Marketing and Ecommerce Jody Drake – General Manager Marc Goodpasture – Production Manager Josh Zerlan – Operations Manager David McClain – Account Manager Bruce Bourne – Non-Employee Consultant Jurie Pieterse – Non-Employee Consultant
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Anthony Fast - Marketing Manager Brian Pollmiller – Shipping Supervisor Debra Grantham – Warehouse Supervisor Brett Cederholm – Warehouse Supervisor Alicia Suenaga – Customer Service Supervisor Zach Weaver – Customer Service Supervisor Ana Janeth Zamarron – Assembly Supervisor Paul Scholes – Assistant Account Supervisor I give! Which one is SLok who MANAGED/SUPERVISED BFL's forum? SLok had basically the same authority as Josh Zerlan in administering BFL's forum and was compensated according, so why isn't his name on the list, and if it is, which person is it?
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 08:50:26 PM |
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22. How many bitcoins has Defendant mined (either by itself or by someone else on Defendant’s behalf) for Defendant’s own benefit since Defendant was formed?
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BF Labs has mined or received as its share of cloud-based mining approximately 8124.58 bitcoins. "23. Collectively, how many bitcoins has Defendant's clients mined with their Monarchs? ANSWER: We have no idea, but our best guess is nowhere near 8124.58 bitcoins. Better luck next time with are next gen miners because we learned from our mistakes, Honest Abe."
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Bicknellski
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April 17, 2015, 10:18:16 PM |
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I smell a new subpoena coming just for dabitcoinguy... Bruno, why haven't you brought up the 2600 BTC sent to Bitstamp Dec 6/7 2013? That would have been around $2.5 mil. Not much work to do there Bruce Peterson? Bruno, I am not this Bruce person and I am at school, not work.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 11:04:47 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.11.pdf14. An electronic copy of the Defendant’s websites including any previous versions.
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BF Labs objects to this request as it seeks production of documents that can be obtained from publicly available sources where the burden of searching for, collecting, or compiling such documents is substantially the same for Plaintiffs as for BF Labs. BFL Forum: Blah, blah, blah. SLok: Delete! Somebody enlighten me as to where I can view deleted posts on BFL's forum that's publicly available elsewhere. Such has to exist otherwise BFL wouldn't be telling a judge indirectly that all deleted posts by SLok from BFL's forum is still readily available on the internet if one so chooses to burden themselves and look.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 11:13:05 PM |
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19. All communications, payments, and other documents sent to or from Defendant and any retained expert relating or referring to this action.
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No documents exist. BF Labs intends to fully comply with its expert discovery obligations under Rule 26 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Amazing! Wood Law took on a case against BFL where their client has no proof that a payment was ever made to BFL, yet BFL has released tons of paperwork related to this case that obviously has no merit since no documents exist that Law's client paid for a bitcoin miner.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 11:19:38 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.12.pdfBFL’s discovery responses are the most egregious I’ve encountered in my career. This is the first time in my career where a defendant has produced zero documents in response to requests for production of documents. This is also the first time in my career where a defendant has refused to produce the documents it disclosed in its initial disclosures. In BFL's defense, I'm calling Wood Law a liar. Surely, there had to be a second time.
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PuertoLibre
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April 17, 2015, 11:38:06 PM |
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Part 1: Please note: this is not the FTC vs BFL case. This is a side case started by another member against BFL. I will henceforth be posting prior to having read them, so I do not know what they contain. This disclaimer applies to all documents going forward.Links to public documents are available upon request.
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PuertoLibre
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April 17, 2015, 11:44:21 PM |
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Part 2:
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April 17, 2015, 11:53:25 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.10.pdf17. Identify all current and former employees of Defendant or non-employees who have operated in the capacity of a manager or supervisor for Defendant.
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Sonny Vleisides – VP of Product Development Nasser Ghoseiri – Chief Technology Officer Jeff Ownby – VP of Marketing and Ecommerce Jody Drake – General Manager Marc Goodpasture – Production Manager Josh Zerlan – Operations Manager David McClain – Account Manager Bruce Bourne – Non-Employee Consultant Jurie Pieterse – Non-Employee Consultant
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Anthony Fast - Marketing Manager Brian Pollmiller – Shipping Supervisor Debra Grantham – Warehouse Supervisor Brett Cederholm – Warehouse Supervisor Alicia Suenaga – Customer Service Supervisor Zach Weaver – Customer Service Supervisor Ana Janeth Zamarron – Assembly Supervisor Paul Scholes – Assistant Account Supervisor That's funny. BFL tried to frame me as a simple customer service employee in the FTC case and Josh/Inaba even declared on this forum that I wasn't part of management, but yet now I am again. Huzzah!
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 11:53:58 PM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.12.pdfThe purpose of this letter is to place Defendant BFL on notice of its duty to preserve potential evidence, and information likely to lead to admissible evidence, in this case. On behalf of the Plaintiff Class, Plaintiffs demand that Defendant BFL take immediate steps to preserve all electronic data, documents, and media in its possession or control, including but not limited to immediate suspension of all routine purging of all said data and the media on which said data is stored. Please note that paper printouts of text or other data existing on electronic files or media are no substitute for the electronic files themselves and do not relieve Defendant BFL of its obligation to preserve the electronic data and files and the media on which they are stored. Please note that the rules of law prohibiting the destruction or spoliation of evidence and providing for the imposition of sanctions for the negligent or willful destruction or spoliation of evidence, apply to electronic information with the same force as they apply to other kinds of evidence. Are there forensic tools readily available that could uncover deleted files if BFL did do such?
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PuertoLibre
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April 17, 2015, 11:59:45 PM |
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Ah okay, now I understand, this case seems to be a class action against BFL if I recall correctly. This may be funded by multiple members.
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BFL_Mole
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April 18, 2015, 12:01:28 AM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.10.pdf17. Identify all current and former employees of Defendant or non-employees who have operated in the capacity of a manager or supervisor for Defendant.
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Sonny Vleisides – VP of Product Development Nasser Ghoseiri – Chief Technology Officer Jeff Ownby – VP of Marketing and Ecommerce Jody Drake – General Manager Marc Goodpasture – Production Manager Josh Zerlan – Operations Manager David McClain – Account Manager Bruce Bourne – Non-Employee Consultant Jurie Pieterse – Non-Employee Consultant
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Anthony Fast - Marketing Manager Brian Pollmiller – Shipping Supervisor Debra Grantham – Warehouse Supervisor Brett Cederholm – Warehouse Supervisor Alicia Suenaga – Customer Service Supervisor Zach Weaver – Customer Service Supervisor Ana Janeth Zamarron – Assembly Supervisor Paul Scholes – Assistant Account Supervisor That's funny. BFL tried to frame me as a simple customer service employee in the FTC case and Josh/Inaba even declared on this forum that I wasn't part of management, but yet now I am again. Huzzah! Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing, Through the graves the wind is blowing, You know how BFL is! Titles change on regular basis. Next month, perhaps, you'll be COO-COO. Links to public documents are available upon request. Here are where all the files that I've been quoting: http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.docket.htmlAh okay, now I understand, this case seems to be a class action against BFL if I recall correctly. This may be funded by multiple members.
It's because of this case that theymos released tens of thousands of vitals and private conversations, among myriad other info.
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PuertoLibre
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April 18, 2015, 12:11:30 AM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.12.pdfThe purpose of this letter is to place Defendant BFL on notice of its duty to preserve potential evidence, and information likely to lead to admissible evidence, in this case. On behalf of the Plaintiff Class, Plaintiffs demand that Defendant BFL take immediate steps to preserve all electronic data, documents, and media in its possession or control, including but not limited to immediate suspension of all routine purging of all said data and the media on which said data is stored. Please note that paper printouts of text or other data existing on electronic files or media are no substitute for the electronic files themselves and do not relieve Defendant BFL of its obligation to preserve the electronic data and files and the media on which they are stored. Please note that the rules of law prohibiting the destruction or spoliation of evidence and providing for the imposition of sanctions for the negligent or willful destruction or spoliation of evidence, apply to electronic information with the same force as they apply to other kinds of evidence. Are there forensic tools readily available that could uncover deleted files if BFL did do such?
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April 18, 2015, 12:42:37 AM |
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Interesting defense strstegy: "we have no idea of what we did with our money, products, and customers during the life of the company, sorry". They are refusing to inform the blockchain addresses used by employees, including the top management, is that right? again I am still in awe of them still not in jail.....I mean if it is this easy for the meager minds of josh and sonny to string this along so long...what must a well run criminal enterprise get away with? (shudder) jeez take a look at the USA/UK/Europe coalition! Fucking world destroying, that's what!
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April 18, 2015, 12:48:20 AM |
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http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.0.pdfPlaintiffs’ counsel has obtained records from Netsolus, Inc., a third party who hosted the mining machines for the Nimbus Mining partnership and cloud mining. The Netsolus records show that detailed records were created showing the precise number of bitcoins mined on a daily and monthly basis. It is hard to believe with a reasonable inquiry BFL cannot determine the number of bitcoins it received from a partnership of which it was a partner and from its own cloud mining. With this number, the number of bitcoins obtained from the testing of equipment prior to shipping may be determined with simple math. "Grimm, for a treat, if BFL sent X miners to Netsolus, Y miners to Nimbus, and Z miners to its own cloud mining facility, how many bitcoins could Bruce Peterson steal in terms of N? Please show your work, Grimm, or no treat." Grimm: That's a tough one, Nitro. Before I answer you that, Bruce Peterson is the DaBitcoinGuy, correct? And, is that a bacon treat or beef? I'm watching my diet. Speaking of diet, Nitro, you're looking like shit lately, and quit looking out the window. There's nobody there. Interesting defense strstegy: "we have no idea of what we did with our money, products, and customers during the life of the company, sorry". They are refusing to inform the blockchain addresses used by employees, including the top management, is that right? again I am still in awe of them still not in jail.....I mean if it is this easy for the meager minds of josh and sonny to string this along so long...what must a well run criminal enterprise get away with? (shudder) jeez take a look at the USA/UK/Europe coalition! Fucking world destroying, that's what! I just read from Alex Jones that the planet is being taken over by Zerlans. Connection?
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noddy2000
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April 18, 2015, 12:58:17 AM |
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http://ia801803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.12.pdfThe purpose of this letter is to place Defendant BFL on notice of its duty to preserve potential evidence, and information likely to lead to admissible evidence, in this case. On behalf of the Plaintiff Class, Plaintiffs demand that Defendant BFL take immediate steps to preserve all electronic data, documents, and media in its possession or control, including but not limited to immediate suspension of all routine purging of all said data and the media on which said data is stored. Please note that paper printouts of text or other data existing on electronic files or media are no substitute for the electronic files themselves and do not relieve Defendant BFL of its obligation to preserve the electronic data and files and the media on which they are stored. Please note that the rules of law prohibiting the destruction or spoliation of evidence and providing for the imposition of sanctions for the negligent or willful destruction or spoliation of evidence, apply to electronic information with the same force as they apply to other kinds of evidence. Are there forensic tools readily available that could uncover deleted files if BFL did do such? YES!
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