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February 13, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
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I don't knock either technology, but they have differences and are aimed at different use case scenarios.

SIA is saddled with a blockchain.   Imagine you own a business and you have a SIA server that you backup your data to.   A fire happens, and you need to get a new set of servers up and running right away.  With SIA, you have to wait a LONG time to get the blockchain before you can begin to recover your data.  And even then, downloads can take awhile to show up.   It's not optimal.  If you are a business, you want to get back up and running immediately.  Not sometime in the next 2 days.

Storj is centralized.  Single pay portal.  No different than paying Microsoft or Amazon.  And that gives them a single point of failure.  They claim encryption makes them different, but encryption is managed on the client end (So you could do this yourself on any platform you would be developing for), and it isn't enforced, so farmers could be holding questionable content in the clear on their servers. 

Sia is truely P2P.  It has no central point of failure.  But it's a complete mystery how it works when it comes to paying for storage.  (I exaggerate, sort of.)  For an end user, it is complicated to understand.  If you want to budget out your storage, good luck on figuring out what you're paying now let-alone what you'll pay for the future storage.  It needs better documentation.  Before someone comes in and white knights the payment process, just know that it is difficult to grasp.  That's all I'm saying.

Storj is fast.  Unsaddled from a Blockchain, it can upload and download data at the maximum speed your pipe can handle.  This means you can recover data extremely quick.  This is very attractive for a data center or business that needs to move a lot of data up and down rapidly. 

Both products are functional and work well, today.  They both need more work and better documentation.  Storj's team is apparently larger than Sia's.  I believe Sia is three full time programmers.  Storj has 12 employees and I think all but 1 or 2 are programmers. 

In my opinion, Sia would be good as a low cost archival storage with long term assurances that your data is going to be there years from now.  (So long as you pay for it)  I would not use it for mission critical backups, but if you wanted to backup your film collection, it'd be a good choice.

Storj is kind of expensive for home users at $15 for 1tb of storage/transfer per month.  This is competitive for larger services like Azure and Amazon when you factor in geo-replication and high availability / rapid transfer.  But when Amazon gives home users unlimited storage for $60 a year.  Or Microsoft sells you 1tb plus Office 365 for $60 a year.   $15 a month for 1tb is too much.  Especially when you are paying for download bandwidth on top of it.  However, for businesses, Storj has a competitive price and a rapid transfer solution.  Appealing to certain niche businesses that need a lot of storage and utilize big pipes to move it around.

Note, these are just my opinions.  Do your own research.  Both products are fluid and subject to change.  Some very smart people are working on both and there are only so many hours in the day.  The issues I mentioned may (And in most cases should) be fixed before too long.  These are good products with good people behind them. 

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February 14, 2017, 03:22:12 AM
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What is differences maidsafe coin with sia coin? it seems, those are same technology
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February 14, 2017, 12:42:24 PM
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SIA is saddled with a blockchain.   Imagine you own a business and you have a SIA server that you backup your data to.   A fire happens, and you need to get a new set of servers up and running right away.  With SIA, you have to wait a LONG time to get the blockchain before you can begin to recover your data.  And even then, downloads can take awhile to show up.   It's not optimal.  If you are a business, you want to get back up and running immediately.  Not sometime in the next 2 days.

if you loose everything but the passphrase you can easily recover everything quickly with a download of the prepared blockchain.
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February 14, 2017, 08:47:06 PM
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why this coin was dumped so hard ??
I need it to go back, straight to the moon!
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February 14, 2017, 11:31:23 PM
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why this coin was dumped so hard ??
I need it to go back, straight to the moon!
I think the flight to the moon from this coin will not happen soon. We can only wait for the increase of demand to Sia.
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February 16, 2017, 09:14:52 AM
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what is better for nvidia pascal - ccminer or gominer?

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February 16, 2017, 10:06:52 AM
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what is better for nvidia pascal - ccminer or gominer?
Why are you asking it here, in Sia thread?

I think the flight to the moon from this coin will not happen soon. We can only wait for the increase of demand to Sia.
The demand will not increase until Sia needs some shamanic practices for user to anounce his storage space in the global network. AFAIK it does not work like "set it and forget it".

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February 16, 2017, 10:50:01 AM
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I guess the biggest concern users have with this technology is that they do not have any control of what can be stored on their drive. I really like the idea behind this storage tech, but I am personnally also concerned about the stuff saved on my shared drive. Maybe the devs should focus a bit on this to find proper solution, then the community will accepts this tech much more and also start more to use it. Which will bring again more value to the coin and of course make the difference from other similar techs.
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February 17, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
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what is better for nvidia pascal - ccminer or gominer?
Why are you asking it here, in Sia thread?

and where better to ask?

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February 19, 2017, 02:15:05 AM
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what is better for nvidia pascal - ccminer or gominer?
Why are you asking it here, in Sia thread?

and where better to ask?
Haha he thought that you have pascal coin on mind  :d
No control could be a problem Indeed.. at least in novadays world..
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February 19, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
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The Sia network is growing https://twitter.com/SiaTechHQ/status/833411082903445504
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February 20, 2017, 05:58:42 AM
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is there an easy n00b guide ?
i have 300 GB on Mac and would be happy to get involfed as well

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February 20, 2017, 06:12:53 AM
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is there an easy n00b guide ?
i have 300 GB on Mac and would be happy to get involfed as well

tx
I also would like to know about how to set it up and the rewards you could get.
Anyone?
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February 20, 2017, 06:44:06 AM
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Is that so difficult?

http://sia.tech/get-started/

But somewhy there is only Linux guide...  Huh Is that the most popular OS here on the Earth?..

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February 20, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
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Is that so difficult?

http://sia.tech/get-started/

But somewhy there is only Linux guide...  Huh Is that the most popular OS here on the Earth?..

More devices run Linux than any other

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February 20, 2017, 01:04:44 PM
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may be sia need work hard to catch up storj.

It seems many people are interested in the comparison of Sia and Storj. I don't think Sia looks Storj as a competitor. Sia only looks the centralized clouds as the competitors such as Amazon S3. The goal of Sia is to over take Amazon S3.

If you really want to compare these two projects, the best way to do so is to check their github activities and run these two softwares to figure it out yourselves.

If you don't know how to check the github activities and you are too lazy to run the softwares you have to rely on other people's opinions. But you still can choose to rely on some reliable sources with data and facts which other people have aggregated. You need data and facts, not just words. Here are some reliable sources for you to refer to:

https://www.coingecko.com/en (projects ranking and pay attention to the Delevoper column)

www.coinmarketcap.com (marketcap ranking)

https://thecontrol.co/meet-sia-a-user-owned-amazon-s3-challenger-that-lets-you-rent-out-your-extra-disk-space-fa9da6ff9223#.9mrlonvf7 (in the middle of this article, there is a nice graph with data to compare Sia, storj, and maidsafe)

Thanks for the info.

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February 20, 2017, 07:44:43 PM
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Is that so difficult?

http://sia.tech/get-started/

But somewhy there is only Linux guide...  Huh Is that the most popular OS here on the Earth?..

Yes
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February 21, 2017, 02:29:02 AM
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Is that so difficult?

http://sia.tech/get-started/

But somewhy there is only Linux guide...  Huh Is that the most popular OS here on the Earth?..

Yes

no way - too comlicated

i would throw a bounty out for some n00b guides !
no offense but if this should go any way near mainstream - u gotta support the mainstream and they are on Mac and PC  Wink
back into cold storage then - bummer

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February 21, 2017, 05:52:36 AM
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anither coin far from complete and way behind in demand since the flop..there is onky more sia to sell...this selling pressure is getting ridiculus....except if  someone is buying 1 million dollar of sia in 1 second, i don't see when i'll be able to profit my investm..ent (i n a year frame) (its very long for the crypto world) lol btc will be 2200 usd then and sia will be 10 satoshi before going to moon its a shame i had alot of hope in sia but he is just doing like every other alt ........crashing like a plane
 i'm going to loss my btc and the profit i woul have make so in total sia has to go nut if i ever hope to do has much profit as if i would have let my btc be and do nothing except of tchecking every now and then for develepeement and hype and fud and all the stress around...

even better if i would just have lend btc...

My point is why buy sia when everyone is doing way more money by tchilling with btc....(now you get why the price go down down down) witout mentining this atrocious big number of avaible supply + supply own by ppl...


anyway just anither bad thousand $ call i guess i will survive... but my hope  in all alt are now dead lol those 5 month have just too much too handle... you guys don't come near the ankle of btc when compared at a profit potential level. Sia and all alt goings to bye bye (2% lucky winner 98% losser)
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February 21, 2017, 10:52:00 AM
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anither coin far from complete and way behind in demand since the flop..there is onky more sia to sell...this selling pressure is getting ridiculus....except if  someone is buying 1 million dollar of sia in 1 second, i don't see when i'll be able to profit my investm..ent (i n a year frame) (its very long for the crypto world) lol btc will be 2200 usd then and sia will be 10 satoshi before going to moon its a shame i had alot of hope in sia but he is just doing like every other alt ........crashing like a plane
 i'm going to loss my btc and the profit i woul have make so in total sia has to go nut if i ever hope to do has much profit as if i would have let my btc be and do nothing except of tchecking every now and then for develepeement and hype and fud and all the stress around...

even better if i would just have lend btc...

My point is why buy sia when everyone is doing way more money by tchilling with btc....(now you get why the price go down down down) witout mentining this atrocious big number of avaible supply + supply own by ppl...


anyway just anither bad thousand $ call i guess i will survive... but my hope  in all alt are now dead lol those 5 month have just too much too handle... you guys don't come near the ankle of btc when compared at a profit potential level. Sia and all alt goings to bye bye (2% lucky winner 98% losser)

ah come on
2-3 years ago everybody was bitching about that in the Dash community too
and now ? boom  20+ US$  go figure and do the math

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