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July 25, 2017, 06:55:00 PM
Last edit: July 25, 2017, 11:43:12 PM by mprep
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Good bit of news above.
But now that my wallet finally synced this morning. For those who care to know it synced at block height #115814  Smiley

Do I need to do this full sync again once the update of 1.3.0 is available?
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Nope, don't worry :-) . Once released, just close Sia completely, install the new version and open the client again. The blockchain will be there already synced


For those waiting for v1.3.0, I have a bit of an update.

The testing and fixing of problems has been ongoing with quite a few long standing bugs found.  As of yesterday morning, Taek said that they had found and fixed all the bugs discovered by the group in the #contributor channel.  With that he released an RC8 build for a final round of testing.

Nothing of significance has been discovered since then and I expect he will release the v1.3.0 pretty soon (just my opinion).  It has been a lot longer coming but I think everyone will be surprised in the performance improvements and happy with the reduced number of problems.

Yes, I agree. RC8 looks very stable according to everybody. Even Teak mentioned on Reddit that 1.3 could be finally released this Friday... but let's take it with a pinch of salt. Better a 100% functional version released next week than an early version that has to be patched in the following days

EDIT --> Oh, they just released v1.3 at this precise moment :-)
Okay.
Just downloaded and installing it on top of the one I had.
Now let's see if it takes anytime at all to sync up.
Hope just 10 minutes since I just installed from the links up above. Wink



It is asking to unlock the wallet now after the install and once entered in the password has been sitting there for the past 20 minutes.
Do not have any coins in there and it says it will take a couple of minutes. Embarrassed

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July 25, 2017, 07:34:24 PM
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It is asking to unlock the wallet now after the install and once entered in the password has been sitting there for the past 20 minutes.
Do not have any coins in there and it says it will take a couple of minutes. Embarrassed

When I upgraded to 1.3 it needed 15 minutes to finally open the client. It happens only the first time after the upgrade. Just leave it more time to scan the blockchain to find out your balance
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July 25, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
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can i upgrade my 1.2.2 version to the new 1.3 one?

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July 25, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
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can i upgrade my 1.2.2 version to the new 1.3 one?

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... Yes, of course you can:

1 - Close the Sia client completely (if using Windows, find the icon in the system tray and click on close)
2 - Install the v1.3 client replacing the older files with the new ones
3 - Open the client. It will need 10-20 minutes to finish the step "(2/6) Loading consensus" but it is normal

No need to backup your wallet or any other thing: with your recovery seed you will always access your funds. If you are hosting or renting storage you might want to backup your %appdata% folders, but it shouldn't be necessary at all. So far no one is reporting problems with the update
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July 25, 2017, 08:35:31 PM
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can i upgrade my 1.2.2 version to the new 1.3 one?

 Huh Undecided

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... Yes, of course you can:

1 - Close the Sia client completely (if using Windows, find the icon in the system tray and click on close)
2 - Install the v1.3 client replacing the older files with the new ones
3 - Open the client. It will need 10-20 minutes to finish the step "(2/6) Loading consensus" but it is normal

No need to backup your wallet or any other thing: with your recovery seed you will always access your funds. If you are hosting or renting storage you might want to backup your %appdata% folders, but it shouldn't be necessary at all. So far no one is reporting problems with the update

thanks.
sorry for this n00b question Lips sealed Undecided

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July 25, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
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can i upgrade my 1.2.2 version to the new 1.3 one?

 Huh Undecided

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... Yes, of course you can:

1 - Close the Sia client completely (if using Windows, find the icon in the system tray and click on close)
2 - Install the v1.3 client replacing the older files with the new ones
3 - Open the client. It will need 10-20 minutes to finish the step "(2/6) Loading consensus" but it is normal

No need to backup your wallet or any other thing: with your recovery seed you will always access your funds. If you are hosting or renting storage you might want to backup your %appdata% folders, but it shouldn't be necessary at all. So far no one is reporting problems with the update
It just finished syncing from an upgrade from 1.1.1 all the way to 1.3.1 so I am thinking this is why it took so long to finish unlocking my wallet since it was syncing and doing all these processes you posted it is doing in this new update to the wallet.

But it still says v 1.1.1 when i go to the about tab.
Will close it down and hope for the best in seeing it say 1.3.1 after it does what it needs to do after the upgrade completion was done over 2 hours ago.

On a side note. It did stop the slad process on it's own.

Edit: Now it is asking me for my wallet password again. Undecided

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July 25, 2017, 10:16:37 PM
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It just finished syncing from an upgrade from 1.1.1 all the way to 1.3.1 so I am thinking this is why it took so long to finish unlocking my wallet since it was syncing and doing all these processes you posted it is doing in this new update to the wallet.

But it still says v 1.1.1 when i go to the about tab.
Will close it down and hope for the best in seeing it say 1.3.1 after it does what it needs to do after the upgrade completion was done over 2 hours ago.

On a side note. It did stop the slad process on it's own.

Edit: Now it is asking me for my wallet password again. Undecided
If you were upgrading from 1.1.1 (and not 1.2.x) then it is normal it takes a very long time (even several hours) as the client is going to re-scan the whole blockchain to find out the funds you have in the wallet

Sia is always going to ask you the password (seed) every time you open the client. It is normal
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It just finished syncing from an upgrade from 1.1.1 all the way to 1.3.1 so I am thinking this is why it took so long to finish unlocking my wallet since it was syncing and doing all these processes you posted it is doing in this new update to the wallet.

But it still says v 1.1.1 when i go to the about tab.
Will close it down and hope for the best in seeing it say 1.3.1 after it does what it needs to do after the upgrade completion was done over 2 hours ago.

On a side note. It did stop the slad process on it's own.

Edit: Now it is asking me for my wallet password again. Undecided
If you were upgrading from 1.1.1 (and not 1.2.x) then it is normal it takes a very long time (even several hours) as the client is going to re-scan the whole blockchain to find out the funds you have in the wallet

Sia is always going to ask you the password (seed) every time you open the client. It is normal
Well since the upgrade it has asked me for the password four times now and I enter it in to unlock the wallet then it goes back to saying "Unlocking your wallet, this may take a while (up to several minutes)..."

Still going...

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Well since the upgrade it has asked me for the password four times now and I enter it in to unlock the wallet then it goes back to saying "Unlocking your wallet, this may take a while (up to several minutes)..."

Still going...

Most probably the siad.exe process is doing the unlocking behind the scenes even if the UI "crashes" and asks you again for the seed.

If you want a bit more of feedback of what is going on, use a command line interface. In the Sia folder, find a subfolder where siad.exe and siac.exe are located. Close the UI and open 2 command lines:

- In the first one type "siad.exe" It will show here the progress of the unlocking (the block it has processed so far)
- In the second one you can type commands, like "siac wallet unlock" to request the wallet unlocking
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This project is quite cool.  I am new, but looking forward to joining the community.  If anyone has any advice, I am open to any help.

Thanks,
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Last edit: July 27, 2017, 12:30:52 AM by mprep
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This project is quite cool.  I am new, but looking forward to joining the community.  If anyone has any advice, I am open to any help.

Thanks,
Huck

In any case, a good decision. Only the nerves do not lose when the course goes down a few days.
You are already in the possession of some coins?



can i upgrade my 1.2.2 version to the new 1.3 one?

 Huh Undecided

...

... Yes, of course you can:

1 - Close the Sia client completely (if using Windows, find the icon in the system tray and click on close)
2 - Install the v1.3 client replacing the older files with the new ones
3 - Open the client. It will need 10-20 minutes to finish the step "(2/6) Loading consensus" but it is normal

No need to backup your wallet or any other thing: with your recovery seed you will always access your funds. If you are hosting or renting storage you might want to backup your %appdata% folders, but it shouldn't be necessary at all. So far no one is reporting problems with the update
It just finished syncing from an upgrade from 1.1.1 all the way to 1.3.1 so I am thinking this is why it took so long to finish unlocking my wallet since it was syncing and doing all these processes you posted it is doing in this new update to the wallet.

But it still says v 1.1.1 when i go to the about tab.
Will close it down and hope for the best in seeing it say 1.3.1 after it does what it needs to do after the upgrade completion was done over 2 hours ago.

On a side note. It did stop the slad process on it's own.

Edit: Now it is asking me for my wallet password again. Undecided

follow the 3 points in hakkane's post.
works fine for me now!

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July 26, 2017, 12:04:53 PM
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If you were upgrading from 1.1.1 (and not 1.2.x) then it is normal it takes a very long time (even several hours) as the client is going to re-scan the whole blockchain to find out the funds you have in the wallet

It can be much longer if you were hosting.  They changed the they manage storage space in the 1.2 upgrade, so if you were hosting, I have heard of people taking 48hrs to upgrade - especially if you were using HDD, rather the SSD.

Also I have found that when you shutdown the client to upgrade, it may take a few minutes for the said process to actually stop.  When you try to start the new client/daemon, it will complain it is already running.

In both cases, the answer is patience, although 48 hours is a lot of patience. Smiley

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If you were upgrading from 1.1.1 (and not 1.2.x) then it is normal it takes a very long time (even several hours) as the client is going to re-scan the whole blockchain to find out the funds you have in the wallet

It can be much longer if you were hosting.  They changed the they manage storage space in the 1.2 upgrade, so if you were hosting, I have heard of people taking 48hrs to upgrade - especially if you were using HDD, rather the SSD.

Also I have found that when you shutdown the client to upgrade, it may take a few minutes for the said process to actually stop.  When you try to start the new client/daemon, it will complain it is already running.

In both cases, the answer is patience, although 48 hours is a lot of patience. Smiley

Alright. I think it is near completion.
Let it run for more than 4 hours just now and it only asked me for the password once then it shut itself down a couple of times. Now it is restarted and still syncing now at block #115975 which I think is almost completely synced after a week now.

But it is still showing v1.1.1 after all of those restarts. Embarrassed

Okay it just completed syncing at #115976  Cheesy

It asked me for the password when I clicked on the wallet tab and now back to unlocking your wallet again. Undecided

Hope it doesn't do this for another 6 hours like yesterday and still not showing the new version showing up.



Joined the slack channel just now
so will continue my progression on getting this upgraded from 1.1.1 to 1.3.1 the latest update on there for anymore problems I encounter.
Thank you!

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July 27, 2017, 01:36:42 PM
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From Taek on Slack:

v1.3.0 is here!

Please see the release notes for a full list of changes. Highlights include greatly improved stability, including better transaction propagation, the ability to restore redundancy without having the file locally, and lots of general bugfixes. We have made more than 500 commits since v1.2.2 spanning thousands of lines of new code, and thousands of lines of new tests.

Sia API: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/tag/v1.3.0
Sia UI: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-UI/releases/tag/v1.3.0

Great news for the project and thanks for update. Coders are doing a good job!

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July 27, 2017, 01:41:46 PM
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OKay I saw the problem.
Since I didn't delete the previous verison I was starting the old version of 1.1.1 program. I thought I overwrote all the old files but it installed into the root directory instead.
No big problem but now started using the correct program labelled 1.3.0 now instead and all is good.

Started the program and received an error log telling me to restart the slad.

I have seen this issue encountered by others on the reddit blog about this new release.
So will just follow instructions from there from now on.
Thank you community in any advise given to me here.

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Started the program and received an error log telling me to restart the slad.

I have seen this issue encountered by others on the reddit blog about this new release.

This often happens when you close the client and immediately try to reopen it.  Basically the old daemon is still running (shutting down) and you try to start the new one.  This fails and tells you to restart the daemon.

It sometimes takes a while to shutdown and the only way to tell is to see if siad is still running.  If it is, best to probably just wait, although I have been known to kill the process if it takes too long.  Doesn't seem to hurt but your mileage may vary.

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Yes be sure when you close your wallet to allow a few moment before restarting it...
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July 27, 2017, 09:03:02 PM
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Why am I not surprised? in order to host files and earn money I'd need to have 2000 tokens in my wallet, this is like steemit, have some steem to have power when you up vote people and then earn money, no thanks.

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July 27, 2017, 10:44:26 PM
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Why am I not surprised? in order to host files and earn money I'd need to have 2000 tokens in my wallet, this is like steemit, have some steem to have power when you up vote people and then earn money, no thanks.

Uh.... yea you have to have SC in your wallet in order to host files for others. The SC in your wallet becomes collateral so if you have a shit computer/connection and the files are never online then you lose your collateral. You dont just earn SC for nothing.

If you didnt have to provide collateral to host files then the whole network would be garbage and you wouldnt be able to access your files when you need to.

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July 28, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
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Siacoin's deposite and withdraws freezed on Poloniex?


"SC is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the SC team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling."

Why?

How long is it freezed
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