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[BetterBetsDev]

How much red streak can in a row with 90% chance

Infinite , since there will be a chance to everything. You can check here for the probability of its happening http://dicesites.com/tools

90 % chance to win doesnt mean that you will only lose once every 10 rolls. It could be 10 loses in 10 rolls as well although the chances for it to happen are close to zero

it's working nice for me to other dice sites PD, Dadice and Safedice,

Unfortunately there is nothing to be done here if you think this is rigged then you have to take your complain to Ryan here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.0 . Owner of the site which uses moneypot's API has zero control to the outcome of the roll and only Ryan has a control over it.

Even if the site owner wanted to tamper the bet result, fake a data regarding number of rolls or BTC wagered , they couldnt do it because they have zero control over it. Short words, you are getting into bad luck

Yeah, it's not a bug, it's just bad luck. It's called "gambling" for nothing. I've been busted on 22 losses when rolling 50%, it's quite unlikely but it can happen.

Sorry about your bad luck, but there is no certain outcome in gambling. You can verify that each dice roll was generated in a provably fair manner; this assures you that noone has tampered with the generation of the dice roll.

[BetterBetsDev]

So...keep rolling guys and dont worry, until now BB still maintain the honesty and fair site for us to play...beside i need to roll to cover back all
the losses...hehehe...the bot really envy if i win...but is fun when your heartbeat going up....c u all guys next time...Bye and GOOD LUCK

Yes, we run an honest and fair site. Everything you see on our site is 100% legit: from the volume stats to the # of bets to the rolls (which are generate by MoneyPot.com).

I'm not sure what other casinos are doing, but we are convinced that long-term, being 100% legit is the best course of action for us to do well.

[trafficolaa]

How much red streak can in a row with 90% chance

Infinite , since there will be a chance to everything. You can check here for the probability of its happening http://dicesites.com/tools

90 % chance to win doesnt mean that you will only lose once every 10 rolls. It could be 10 loses in 10 rolls as well although the chances for it to happen are close to zero

it's working nice for me to other dice sites PD, Dadice and Safedice,

Unfortunately there is nothing to be done here if you think this is rigged then you have to take your complain to Ryan here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020726.0 . Owner of the site which uses moneypot's API has zero control to the outcome of the roll and only Ryan has a control over it.

Even if the site owner wanted to tamper the bet result, fake a data regarding number of rolls or BTC wagered , they couldnt do it because they have zero control over it. Short words, you are getting into bad luck

Yeah, it's not a bug, it's just bad luck. It's called "gambling" for nothing. I've been busted on 22 losses when rolling 50%, it's quite unlikely but it can happen.

Sorry about your bad luck, but there is no certain outcome in gambling. You can verify that each dice roll was generated in a provably fair manner; this assures you that noone has tampered with the generation of the dice roll.

Yes i also agreed with you that is gambling as i busted on Primedice with 49.50% win chance by getting 23 red streak in a row so gambling is all about good luck, it looking just bad luck in that matter or maybe problem with the calculator of odds which are showing strange odds i also checked that.

[BetterBets.io]

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For players this means you will enjoy 0.25% house edge for the next 2 days. Starts now and thank you to everyone for a great first month

Just click here to sign up for an account and start playing today: https://betterbets.io

[RHavar]

Unfortunately, as a precaution I've had to temporarily disable BetterBet's API access to MoneyPot. It should be back in no time. All funds are still withdrawable and usable, so the impact should be pretty minimal. When investigating a user's missing funds on this site, I did a bit of security testing and found a minor XSS attack on betterbets, which could be used to tip users.

Although this isn't a problem or flaw in MoneyPot, I realize I have done a poor job at explaining the trust boundary so I have taken the step of personally refunded everyone (direct into their main MP account) anyone I believe affected. If you were affected, and not credited please contact me directly using the MoneyPot.com support system.

I'll work with betterbets to fix this little issue and get the rolls happening again as soon as possible!

And as we speak, I'm improving our website and language to be clearer about issues like this.

 

[BetterBetsDev]

Unfortunately, as a precaution I've had to temporarily disable BetterBet's API access to MoneyPot. It should be back in no time. All funds are still withdrawable and usable, so the impact should be pretty minimal. When investigating a user's missing funds on this site, I did a bit of security testing and found a minor XSS attack on betterbets, which could be used to tip users.

Although this isn't a problem or flaw in MoneyPot, I realize I have done a poor job at explaining the trust boundary so I have taken the step of personally refunded everyone (direct into their main MP account) anyone I believe affected. If you were affected, and not credited please contact me directly using the MoneyPot.com support system.

I'll work with betterbets to fix this little issue and get the rolls happening again as soon as possible!

And as we speak, I'm improving our website and language to be clearer about issues like this.

 

Thank you Ryan for your prompt response.

I believe I have the issue fixed; it should not be possible anymore maliciously tip anybody. For now, while we verify my fix, I have disabled tipping functionality. Once we are 100% certain that the issue has been fixed, we'll bring it back online.

Thank you for your understanding in the meantime.

[RHavar]

Fast turnaround, well done! =)

[srgkrgkj]

sorry to see the site had become a target to a xss attack :O but p[retty impressed with the way you guys handleed the whole busijess sorted without hurting the customers intrests this is what makes moneypot one of the better operators personally thanks RHavar

[Havelivi]

I am unable to roll dice while trying i am getting this error again and again Auth not enabled, how to resolve this issue and there are other players rolling dice in all bets data updating continuously, i am change my browser too but same issue in both browsers.

[arallmuus]

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I and several user are rolling without issue right now which you can check it on here https://www.moneypot.com/apps/14-betterbets . Have you tried to logout and relogin again, it may helps though and also is rolling the dice the only thing that you unable to do, how about the chatbox?
Also have you check your moneypot's account? It could be due to that betterbets was moved to disabled section (doubt this is the case though but worth checking)

EDIT : it seems the bolded part fixed the issue

[Havelivi]

It got disabled by moneypot so that was the reason of this error, thank you for your kind help through this issue i just re-enabled this app and now it is working smoothly without any problem, i think recent xss attack cause of this error.

[asritajudin]

HappyHour.....
Today our beloved site BB, had their first HH marathon, for 2 days non-stop, in the event of celebration, their first month opening.
BRAVO and CONGRATULATIONs......

Despite all the problems that arise today, the BB teams, including Ryan, have managed to overcome all the obstacles...and finally,
the bot started to roll....Really, i salute the integrity, teamwork, and the dedication of these guys....U r great....

Minutes by minutes...hours by hours....the regular players came in...including the on-off player....and also a few new comers....
Since today is HH, they are quite excited to try at higher multiplier...and the newbies started at the lower multiplier with a lower wager...
doesnt matter what level you are, as long as you happy and feel satisfied , than its okey....

The chat room is quiet for a while....players are busy placing the bets.....the bot ran at the speed of 25ms.....
and out of sudden...the chat room has become like supermarket....a few new comer felt sad cos they lost, even bet at lower multiplier...
and of course some of the regular also lost during HH, but as they know, it is what gambling all about. Most of them blamed too many red streak
at lower multiplier...even during HH.

Its really hard and pain for me to say this, but the reality is the bot is not suitable for those who come with less than 100k satoshi..
For our good friends with the bankroll 100k satoshi and below, i would advise them to roll the snake eyes...
The bot, on the other hand are really an advantages for those with higher bankroll...because they can sustain 50+ streak and above.
Deep from inside my heart, i hope the BB team will forgive me for express this message. Perhaps im wrong about this.

But, still there are so many excitement you guys can have...many of the newcomers forgot about the horses....and it is really
enjoy to watch the horse race.....the animation is fabulous.....

And for me, i still stand beside BB and the bot.....even sometime i lost, yet the other day i win....afterall i learn a lot new thing from the chat room.
Bye guys...and see u all next time.

[agustina2]

i loved ur bot because its the fastest officialbot i ever play, but can u dd one more feature Zigzag feature so it will change to high or low after lose several or 1 bet. because i only found that feature in thrd app bot..

[Altcoin4life]

i loved ur bot because its the fastest officialbot i ever play, but can u dd one more feature Zigzag feature so it will change to high or low after lose several or 1 bet. because i only found that feature in thrd app bot..

They added it it's called "switch after" just set it to whatever you want I found switch after 2 losses worked well for me.

[panjul07]

i loved ur bot because its the fastest officialbot i ever play, but can u dd one more feature Zigzag feature so it will change to high or low after lose several or 1 bet. because i only found that feature in thrd app bot..

The zigzag feature is already there, perhaps you do not realize it..there is "switch after" option..and it works fine for me.

[Venusianism]

^{[LOL @ asrita trying to praise the site w/ long posts every few days for extra bits /tease ;p]}

 ..Well, I've now not only made it to the top of the (still-incorrectly-inverted Won Bets|Bets Made section ) still very young BetterBets leaderboard - it wouldn't be difficult to 'dethrone' me haha - so once again thanks to Bjorn, Lobos, Ryan & all investors for implementing BetterBets & making this possible..~!

 ..Not only that, but also 'unwittingly' ended up at the very top of the High Rollers tab as well given that Bjorn & Ryan have made the incredible oversight of NOT listing the -current- (can change.. needs to be updated.. so players stay informed..) 'Max Bet Size' & 'Max Bet Return/Payout' allowed for any individual dice bet - this is located neither in the twitter, in the blog, the news, the OP here, nor the FAQ on the site!!! The only information to be found is about the LuckForging feature ;/

 Which, after searching for it everywhere, had me partially attempt to answer my own question, by risking my entire 3.5 weeks of hard work on an extremely risky all-in yolo bet (albeit during happy hour ) ..Which did go through - Thank the bejeezus I won it O.O - Thus at least user-confirming that BetterBets currently allows higher Max Bet than even BustaBit.com does (Max Bet Size : 1BTC | Max Win Amount : ~5.82BTC). Of course this doesn't tell us just how big of a bet I could've possibly been allowed make, nor, had I been insane enough to do a 10-100x bet w/ that misshapenly monstrous bet size, what's the highest bet payout setting the server would've actually rolled before it starts returning 'ERROR - BET_RETURN_TOO_LARGE' popups ;p (because this GUI, however nice it looks, is not communicating in realtime w/ the server and is therefore completely blind to what the server will or will not allow to go through until -after- you press the 'Roll Dice' button).

 As for Ryan ; This important Max Bet/Max Win data, if it happens to not depend on the casino but rather on MoneyPot itself, is not to be found anywhere in MP's FAQ, App Management section, nor thread OP neither. And btw, the newly-input'd memo about "Reminder : This is the amount of your money that this app can access. Until you withdraw this balance into your Moneypot wallet or disable this app, it's best to consider this balance in the posssession of the app." -> has a spelling typo in 'possession', & there was also another typo I found somewhere else in MP but just can't recall where it was now, sorry.

 So! What's the MaxWin & MaxBet sizes allowed ; Has this changed since May 19 launch ; How likely is it these limits will change again ; Is this a limit set per-app or for all MoneyPot's casinos ; Is it frowned upon to autobot on multiple MoneyPot Account simultaneously running on multiple browsers and/or PC's entirely (obviously to loop around the Max Bet & Max Win limits during bad martingale'd AutoBet streaks, among other things ;p ;p) ..?? Thanks Bjorn/Lobos/Ryan!

[arallmuus]

So! What's the MaxWin & MaxBet sizes allowed ,How likely is it these limits will change again

Moneypot is using kelly criterion for the bet amount which you can find at the FAQ or you can read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion

Code:

We use the generalized kelly criterion, to determine if a bet is acceptable or not. For a given bet, the Kelly criterion tells us how much of our bankroll we should risk. We will only ever risk less than the kelly suggests, and never more.

Im not much of a math guy but Ryan mentioned one time that it will be depending on the bankroll (not sure if it is at plinkopot chatroom )

So basically it will be using this formula

Code:

1 x Bankroll x HE 

The limit for this will depends on the bankroll and the bankroll is floating around ~146 BTC https://www.moneypot.com/investment then the max win for the site would be ~1.46 BTC

P.S : not sure if this differ depending on each sites or no
P.S 2 : Congratulations for breaking the Hall of Fame 

[BetterBets.io]

^{[LOL @ asrita trying to praise the site w/ long posts every few days for extra bits /tease ;p]}

 ..Well, I've now not only made it to the top of the (still-incorrectly-inverted Won Bets|Bets Made section ) still very young BetterBets leaderboard - it wouldn't be difficult to 'dethrone' me haha - so once again thanks to Bjorn, Lobos, Ryan & all investors for implementing BetterBets & making this possible..~!

 ..Not only that, but also 'unwittingly' ended up at the very top of the High Rollers tab as well given that Bjorn & Ryan have made the incredible oversight of NOT listing the -current- (can change.. needs to be updated.. so players stay informed..) 'Max Bet Size' & 'Max Bet Return/Payout' allowed for any individual dice bet - this is located neither in the twitter, in the blog, the news, the OP here, nor the FAQ on the site!!! The only information to be found is about the LuckForging feature ;/

 Which, after searching for it everywhere, had me partially attempt to answer my own question, by risking my entire 3.5 weeks of hard work on an extremely risky all-in yolo bet (albeit during happy hour ) ..Which did go through - Thank the bejeezus I won it O.O - Thus at least user-confirming that BetterBets currently allows higher Max Bet than even BustaBit.com does (Max Bet Size : 1BTC | Max Win Amount : ~5.82BTC). Of course this doesn't tell us just how big of a bet I could've possibly been allowed make, nor, had I been insane enough to do a 10-100x bet w/ that misshapenly monstrous bet size, what's the highest bet payout setting the server would've actually rolled before it starts returning 'ERROR - BET_RETURN_TOO_LARGE' popups ;p (because this GUI, however nice it looks, is not communicating in realtime w/ the server and is therefore completely blind to what the server will or will not allow to go through until -after- you press the 'Roll Dice' button).

 As for Ryan ; This important Max Bet/Max Win data, if it happens to not depend on the casino but rather on MoneyPot itself, is not to be found anywhere in MP's FAQ, App Management section, nor thread OP neither. And btw, the newly-input'd memo about "Reminder : This is the amount of your money that this app can access. Until you withdraw this balance into your Moneypot wallet or disable this app, it's best to consider this balance in the posssession of the app." -> has a spelling typo in 'possession', & there was also another typo I found somewhere else in MP but just can't recall where it was now, sorry.

 So! What's the MaxWin & MaxBet sizes allowed ; Has this changed since May 19 launch ; How likely is it these limits will change again ; Is this a limit set per-app or for all MoneyPot's casinos ; Is it frowned upon to autobot on multiple MoneyPot Account simultaneously running on multiple browsers and/or PC's entirely (obviously to loop around the Max Bet & Max Win limits during bad martingale'd AutoBet streaks, among other things ;p ;p) ..?? Thanks Bjorn/Lobos/Ryan!

Hello Venusianism,

First, congratulations on taking the top spot for most profit. Secondly, I totally agree with you, we should have the max payout listed for players. Right now we are allowed a max payout of 1.5% (per Moneypot's investment bankroll) per single bet. So that would mean you can win 219411048.21 (satoshis)BTC or to simplify: 2.19 BTC per bet. So to answer your question, it is based on max payout not max bet. We are currently working on several things right now but I wanted you to know because of your post I added this idea to our enhancement tracker list to show on site what the max bet payout is. It may be a bit before it is implemented but I agree completely it's a great idea. Max payout will change as more people invest in Moneypot.com's bankroll or Ryan decides to add more as needed.

We would love to allow for at least a max payout of 5 BTC in the near future for players. If anyone is interested you can invest in Moneypot's bankroll here: https://www.moneypot.com/investment as you can see investors are doing pretty well so far but with any investment this fluctuates depending on the luck of the players betting. The limit per app is based on RHavar's discretion for us he agreed to 1.5% but this is something that could go up or down as our site matures.

Regarding multiple accounts and using our built-in bot, there is no policy against this since you are genuinely betting just using multiple accounts so there is no issue doing this it is completely up to the player.

Venusian if I was unclear or missed any points in your post just let me know and I will try my best to answer them, thank you for being a strong supporter of the site and your suggestions are always welcome.

[Venusianism]

 [..Shenanigans & Concerns..]

Hello Venusian*,

First, congratulations on taking the top spot for most profit. Secondly, I totally agree with you, we should have the max payout listed for players. Right now we are allowed a max payout of 1.5% (per MoneyPot's investment bankroll) per single bet. So that would mean you can win 219411048.21 (satoshis)BTC or to simplify: 2.19 BTC per bet. So to answer your question, it is based on max payout not max bet. We are currently working on several things right now but I wanted you to know because of your post I added this idea to our enhancement tracker list to show on site what the max bet payout is. It may be a bit before it is implemented but I agree completely it's a great idea. Max payout will change as more people invest in MoneyPot.com's bankroll or Ryan decides to add more as needed.

We would love to allow for at least a max payout of 5 BTC in the near future for players. If anyone is interested you can invest in MoneyPot's bankroll here: https://www.moneypot.com/investment as you can see investors are doing pretty well so far but with any investment this fluctuates depending on the luck of the players betting. The limit per app is based on RHavar's discretion for us he agreed to 1.5% but this is something that could go up or down as our site matures.

Regarding multiple accounts and using our built-in bot, there is no policy against this since you are genuinely betting just using multiple accounts so there is no issue doing this it is completely up to the player.

Venusian if I was unclear or missed any points in your post just let me know and I will try my best to answer them, thank you for being a strong supporter of the site and your suggestions are always welcome.

 No you didn't miss anything lol I was just busy. And it's a pain writing so much text ;3  Haha somehow I bet Ryan's annoyed w/ me now for my last post ;p

 Yea, thanks Bjorn & Arall, prompt & useful answers as always ;p  So this means the MaxBet Size allowed per roll is tied entirely to what kind of bankroll moneypot has at the time + the discretionary per-site MaxWin 'Risk Limit Value', I see..

 Thus returning a theoretical upper limit for max bet size currently around ~109.95BTC wagered @ 1.02 payout multiplier (the highest win-odds-%/lowest-payout-% setting allowed) [1.5% x ~146BTC MP bankroll = 2.199 divided by 0.02 = 109.95] ; While the lower limit for max bet amount would be at 0.00022212BTC for a ~9900x(?) bet return on a <0.01%/>99.99% roll. Which means to reach your desired ideal of 5BTC BetterBets MaxWin value, MP's bankroll would have to increase by roughly ~186.83BTC

[Altcoin4life]

Venusian is your strategy some variation on wocky's? It's weird but seems to work very well. This is the only site I know where people bet using insane multipliers it's awesome lol