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June 29, 2015, 02:08:10 PM
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Rain bot starts making bets (using a specified probability, such as 49.5%)
He will rain for x bets or until he's cycled through the 1 BTC
He will take whatever was won off of the bets and will transfer it to random chatters


The chatbot feature has been requested long ago but I guess its not suitable to have it right now as the site condition currently have less active chatter for the moment ( or this could lure in more people as people loves free satoshi(?) ). The idea to let rain bot wager is a good idea because with more wager it helps the site as well
Im a big fan of shiba and having "it" on chat will be great or some kinda bot with the almost the same function as shiba as it will be great to know about the current value of BTC in USD and some other currency or having it to troll the other player while Im bored

P.S : some whale is having some action on the house atm



I forgot if this has been requested or not but could we have some pop up about players status? some command key like below will be great

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/stats arallmuus



I love the idea of a stat command! And keep in mind that the rain bot is run by the players. The house doesn't give it money -- players send it tips and it will rain from that.

OK, so how does the bot determine who to tip? Is it purely random or is there some algorithm to it?

On some sites it's random based on bettors (i.e., it will pick 5 random names of the last 20 players that bet). Some will do it based on chatters (last 5 chatters, 5 random chatters from the last 30m, etc.). Really just depends on how the bot creator set it up. None of them are "official" -- they're all run by other players that usually take a portion of the tips (like 10%) before paying out the remainder.

All right, I'll talk to Bjorn about this and figure something out.

I like the idea of a chat bot with multiple functions it is submitted on our enhancement tracker already, but of course if we do it we want to make sure it exceeds all current ones available.
May take a bit more time but the end result should be something everyone really enjoys, and then we can expand on it through player requests from there Smiley
Ranlo the ideas you presented are good, they would probably be included in some way.

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June 29, 2015, 10:01:45 PM
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

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June 29, 2015, 10:11:29 PM
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

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 #544

Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

It looks like there will be a little more than 29000 raffle tickets submitted (unless people change their settings now).

Winner will be drawn at 00:00 GMT, so about 1.5 hours from now.

Edit: I must have looked at the wrong date of my calendar. The winner will be drawn 24 hours from now, just after we hit July 1st. Sorry for the confusion.
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June 29, 2015, 11:01:44 PM
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

It looks like there will be a little more than 29000 raffle tickets submitted (unless people change their settings now).

Winner will be drawn at 00:00 GMT, so about 1.5 hours from now.

BTW, the process used to select the winning ticket will be transparent (ie: you'll be able to verify that we don't cheat) and we'll add such an indicator the site for next months raffle.
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June 30, 2015, 02:33:48 AM
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

It looks like there will be a little more than 29000 raffle tickets submitted (unless people change their settings now).

Winner will be drawn at 00:00 GMT, so about 1.5 hours from now.

BTW, the process used to select the winning ticket will be transparent (ie: you'll be able to verify that we don't cheat) and we'll add such an indicator the site for next months raffle.

I'd like to make a custom request. If ($winner != "ranlo") {reDraw()}

Thanks!

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June 30, 2015, 06:25:55 AM
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I'd like to make a custom request. If ($winner != "ranlo") {reDraw()}

Without adding a special command line for the drawing, you can always set your raffle percentage which you want to submit into 0 % instead (slider max to the left ) on your account tab and hit the save button. Also that Lobos is pretty obsessive compulsive with his code so adding that will get him an extra headache  Tongue and saving your tickets for next month will get you huge advantage for the next raffle ( or you can save it until they announce a lamborghini as the main prize )



However tough luck that neither of us will stand a chance for this raffle as there are two heavy rollers that aim for this raffle. Winner will be pretty much either hyipexa or BTCevo

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June 30, 2015, 06:29:10 AM
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I'd like to make a custom request. If ($winner != "ranlo") {reDraw()}

Without adding a special command line for the drawing, you can always set your raffle percentage which you want to submit into 0 % instead (slider max to the left ) on your account tab and hit the save button. Also that Lobos is pretty obsessive compulsive with his code so adding that will get him an extra headache  Tongue and saving your tickets for next month will get you huge advantage for the next raffle ( or you can save it until they announce a lamborghini as the main prize )



However tough luck that neither of us will stand a chance for this raffle as there are two heavy rollers that aim for this raffle. Winner will be pretty much either hyipexa or BTCevo

I'm actually saving up some of my tickets. With the current amount (as of the last post where it was calculated), I sit at ~3% of the pool. I am really debating just saving all instead -- a 97% chance of failure seems pretty high!

I think what would be neat for the future would be to have multiple prizes (smaller) instead of bigger ones. It's why we have mining pools and a lot of other things -- it reduces variance. I'd rather have a 15% chance at $10 than a 5% chance at $30.

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June 30, 2015, 06:55:18 AM
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-snip-

I'm actually saving up some of my tickets. With the current amount (as of the last post where it was calculated), I sit at ~3% of the pool. I am really debating just saving all instead -- a 97% chance of failure seems pretty high!

hyipexa has 4,773,800 rolls by now and thats around ~9.5k tickets and thats roughtly 9k tickets since she has submitted around 500 at the first month . She claimed few days ago that will submit around 80-90 % of her tickets

On the other hand , BTCevo has 1,748,013 rolls and that is ~3.5k tickets and he has never submitted any on the first month

If we combine both of them thats means they are getting 50 % of the entire pool

You have 1,546,530 which is ~3k tickets and you get around 10 % of the entire pool

We have another contender kiko9714 with 1,545,152 rolls and thats ~3k tickets as well (10 % of the pool as well )

Asritajudin with 1,142,463 which is ~2k tickets ( around 7 % of the pool )



Thats the rough calculation of the entire competitor with some winning chance that I could find. I took myself out since I wont be submitting any . If you think you got some luck with 10 % then go for it but be warn, hyipexa may submit her entire tickets and thats leave her to be on top notch



I think what would be neat for the future would be to have multiple prizes (smaller) instead of bigger ones.

That could be arrange in the future or something like a consolidation prize for all entrants will be great.

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June 30, 2015, 07:01:46 AM
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I'm actually saving up some of my tickets. With the current amount (as of the last post where it was calculated), I sit at ~3% of the pool. I am really debating just saving all instead -- a 97% chance of failure seems pretty high!

hyipexa has 4,773,800 rolls by now and thats around ~9.5k tickets and thats roughtly 9k tickets since she has submitted around 500 at the first month . She claimed few days ago that will submit around 80-90 % of her tickets

On the other hand , BTCevo has 1,748,013 rolls and that is ~3.5k tickets and he has never submitted any on the first month

If we combine both of them thats means they are getting 50 % of the entire pool

You have 1,546,530 which is ~3k tickets and you get around 10 % of the entire pool

We have another contender kiko9714 with 1,545,152 rolls and thats ~3k tickets as well (10 % of the pool as well )

Asritajudin with 1,142,463 which is ~2k tickets ( around 7 % of the pool )



Thats the rough calculation of the entire competitor with some winning chance that I could find. I took myself out since I wont be submitting any . If you think you got some luck with 10 % then go for it but be warn, hyipexa may submit her entire tickets and thats leave her to be on top notch

While all of this is true, she may still loose to someone else. Luck is a fickle companion. My advice would be don't worry about the statistics too much and just go for it. If you think a USD 150 Amazon gift certificate is a cool prize, enter a good portion of your tickets. If you think/hope that next months prize will be better, then don't.


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-snip-

I'm actually saving up some of my tickets. With the current amount (as of the last post where it was calculated), I sit at ~3% of the pool. I am really debating just saving all instead -- a 97% chance of failure seems pretty high!

hyipexa has 4,773,800 rolls by now and thats around ~9.5k tickets and thats roughtly 9k tickets since she has submitted around 500 at the first month . She claimed few days ago that will submit around 80-90 % of her tickets

On the other hand , BTCevo has 1,748,013 rolls and that is ~3.5k tickets and he has never submitted any on the first month

If we combine both of them thats means they are getting 50 % of the entire pool

You have 1,546,530 which is ~3k tickets and you get around 10 % of the entire pool

We have another contender kiko9714 with 1,545,152 rolls and thats ~3k tickets as well (10 % of the pool as well )

Asritajudin with 1,142,463 which is ~2k tickets ( around 7 % of the pool )



Thats the rough calculation of the entire competitor with some winning chance that I could find. I took myself out since I wont be submitting any . If you think you got some luck with 10 % then go for it but be warn, hyipexa may submit her entire tickets and thats leave her to be on top notch

While all of this is true, she may still loose to someone else. Luck is a fickle companion. My advice would be don't worry about the statistics too much and just go for it. If you think a USD 150 Amazon gift certificate is a cool prize, enter a good portion of your tickets. If you think/hope that next months prize will be better, then don't.

Absolutely agree...nothing can beat luck Smiley and I hope the winner will be the one who submit the less tickets. Because I only have 600tickets, so I hope the luck is mine.  Grin
And I do agree with ranlo about multiple prizes at least 3 winners for each raffle, it will be more attractive imo.

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June 30, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

It looks like there will be a little more than 29000 raffle tickets submitted (unless people change their settings now).

Winner will be drawn at 00:00 GMT, so about 1.5 hours from now.

BTW, the process used to select the winning ticket will be transparent (ie: you'll be able to verify that we don't cheat) and we'll add such an indicator the site for next months raffle.

Hello Dev i am interested to know more about this raffle draw which system you will use to make it fair and transparent because last draw result looks like choose a person by choice and till nothing about this draw system, would you please tell us how it will work?
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Hello, we are currently working on many new things for everyone to enjoy, I wanted to just remind players that tomorrow is the monthly raffle drawing and to make sure you save the % of raffle tickets you want to submit. If you do not set the percentage and hit save then your raffle tickets will just carry over to next months raffle prize. Thank you and have a great week everyone.

Can you give a tip as to how many tickets are being submitted atm? I think having a view of "pending" would be great in the future, to know your chances of winning.

It looks like there will be a little more than 29000 raffle tickets submitted (unless people change their settings now).

Winner will be drawn at 00:00 GMT, so about 1.5 hours from now.

BTW, the process used to select the winning ticket will be transparent (ie: you'll be able to verify that we don't cheat) and we'll add such an indicator the site for next months raffle.

Hello Dev i am interested to know more about this raffle draw which system you will use to make it fair and transparent because last draw result looks like choose a person by choice and till nothing about this draw system, would you please tell us how it will work?

The development team are out of the office for the moment, I can tell you it was not by choice but by an internal random number generator which we ourselves did quite not like. The new public method ensures fairness and is blockchain based; this is a service we made not something that was requested. The fact that Arallmuus became mod and won the contest was not related, he's mod because he's excellent at this position and we needed one. He was a very early player and had a ton of tickets, we are very thankful to him for his hard work daily.

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June 30, 2015, 06:26:58 PM
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because last draw result looks like choose a person by choice

Last month raffle starts on 21st May and there were only 10 days for the previous raffle. Immediately after Bjorn posted about the raffle , I PMed him asking about this wether is it allowed to bet 1 satoshi at 98 % chance

is it allowed to bet 1 satoshi at 98 % chance to get the raffle ticket ?

Yes, as long as it is a non-zero bet you can do this all day long if you choose. The way our site is coded raffle tickets will be this way for the foreseeable future, good luck!

P.S : I dug through my PM just to find this  Smiley

Soon after he clarified on this, I tried the site and roll 1 satoshi at 98 % chance all day long almost for 24 hours daily (unless my connection stop) and during the 10 days there's only me and another user TRINITY that is rolling on the site daily.  I got 650 tickets within 10 days and submitted all of them. Just to be clear that is 650 x 500 = 325k rolls and back then the sites's roll was never as fast as today ( it was still slowish until 27th )

For references that the faster version was released on 27th

Version 1.13 (2015-05-27) fixes the following issues/bugs:
#21: Make sure that AutoBot runs at highest speed possible (result: about 2.5-3x as fast at max speed)



Conclusion : Be fast and be lucky . Most people tend to avoid a new site while in fact I urge people to try on a new site and atleast have some impression on how things work. I was lucky and faster to get on the boat  Wink .

To be honest, I was only rolling for tickets when the first time I came to this site but once I saw their dedication to be here for a long run and how they turns suggestion into reality , I decided to stick with them. Anyway goodluck with the raffle as I am saving mine for next month perhaps  Wink

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Hi Everybody,

we just pushed a new version into production. See the dev post (2nd post of this thread for details).
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Congratulations player "Kepix" for winning the second monthly prize.
Please contact us via PM/Email/Social media to claim your prize and let us know what prize
you would like to receive either the $150 gift card or Bitcoin prize.

Anyone can win the monthly prizes you just need to play!


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Congratulations player "Kepix" for winning the second monthly prize.
Please contact us via PM/Email/Social media to claim your prize and let us know what prize
you would like to receive either the $150 gift card or Bitcoin prize.

Anyone can win the monthly prizes you just need to play!


Congrats to the winner, and seems that I was right that the winner is the player who submit less tickets Smiley kepix made 540k bets means that he was only submit around 1k tickets ( if he submit all the tickets)
And thanks to betterbets for always being generous, wish all the best luck on your future..And we wait for the next raffle announcement (hope it will be more great prize LOL) and I will try to bet more than the previous month.




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Hi,

we promised a detailed technical explanation of how we pick the raffle ticket winner and here it is. In English, the following steps are performed:

1) We retrieve the elegible raffle tickets (based on user submit-% setting) and insert them into a table which holds submitted raffle tickets for each user for the given month. Tickets are inserted in blocks and the table structure looks like this (the data for this example is made-up):

|Year |Month|UserID|StartNum|EndNum|
|2015|  06    | 123   |     1       |    123   |
|2015|  06    | 675   |   124     |     768  |
|2015|  06    | 12     |   768     |    2212 |

2) We then take the block hash of the first block mined after the beginning of the new month (after 00:00:00 GMT):

00000000000000001437607ffa24583aa964f84579254570d6b25b4fe65d658f

3) We calculate the product of all non-zero hexadecimal digits until we get a number greater than 10 Million. For the hash displayed in #2 this is:

15876000

4) We take the number of submitted raffle tickets (31208 for June) and use this in a modulus operation like this:

WinningTicket# = HashProduct % SubmittedRaffleTickets
which comes to
15876000 % 31208 = 22336

So for this example, the winning ticket number is 22336. Once we have this number we look up the submitted tickets blocks from step #1 and find the user for who 'owns' the ticket block into which the winning ticket falls.

This is the explanation in plain english.

The actual code which does this is below:

Code:
public static function submitRaffleTickets ()
    {
        $tables   = $GLOBALS['tables'];
        $dbConn   = $GLOBALS['dbConn'];

        $pagesize = 500;
        $month    = date ('m') - 1;
        $year     = date ('Y');
        $page     = 0;
        $cUsers   = 0;
        $cRt      = 0;

        $stmt = $dbConn->query ("SELECT COUNT(1) FROM $tables[rt_used] WHERE month = $month");
        $stmt->bindValue (':month', $month, PDO::PARAM_INT);
        $stmt->bindValue (':month', $month, PDO::PARAM_INT);
        $row = $stmt->fetch (PDO::FETCH_NUM);
        if ($row && $row[0]) {
            die ("Raffle Tickets for month [$month] already exist ... exiting");
        }

        do {
            $offset = $pagesize * $page;
            $stmt   = $dbConn->query ("SELECT id, alias, rt_redeem_percent, total_bets_rt FROM $tables[users] WHERE rt_redeem_percent != 0 AND total_bets_rt != 0 ORDER BY alias LIMIT $offset, $pagesize");
            $rows   = $stmt->fetchAll (PDO::FETCH_ASSOC);
            foreach ($rows as $row) {

                $amt  = (int)(($row['total_bets_rt']/$GLOBALS['hconf']['raffleTicketTurns']) * ($row['rt_redeem_percent']/100));
                if ($amt == 0) {
                    continue;
                }

                $stmt = $dbConn->prepare ("INSERT INTO $tables[rt_used] (uid, year, month, amt, start_num, end_num) VALUES (:uid, :year, :month, :amt, :startNum, :endNum)");
                $stmt->bindValue (':uid', $row['id'], PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->bindValue (':year', $year, PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->bindValue (':month', $month, PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->bindValue (':amt', $amt, PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->bindValue (':startNum', $cRt+1, PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->bindValue (':endNum', $cRt+$amt, PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->execute ();

                $stmt = $dbConn->prepare ("UPDATE $tables[users] SET total_bets_rt = total_bets_rt - :amt WHERE id = $row[id]");
                $stmt->bindValue (':amt', ($amt*$GLOBALS['hconf']['raffleTicketTurns']), PDO::PARAM_INT);
                $stmt->execute ();

                $cUsers++;
                $cRt += $amt;
            }
            $page++;
        } while (count($rows) > 0);

        echo sprintf ("Submitted %d RaffleTickets for %d users", $cRt, $cUsers);
    }

The function to calculate the winning ticket looks like this:

Code:
public static function getWinningRaffleTicketForHash ()
    {
        $hash  = DiceUtil::getPassedValue ('hash', null, 'GET');
        $count = (int)DiceUtil::getPassedValue ('count', 0, 'GET');
        $min   = 1000*1000*10;
        $sum   = 0;
        $off   = 0;

        if (!$hash) {
            exit ('Invalid [hash] recieved');
        }
        if (!$count) {
            exit ('Invalid raffle ticket [count] recieved');
        }
        if (!ctype_xdigit($hash)) {
            exit ('Invalid [hash] characters recieved');
        }

        do {
            $c = $hash[$off++];
            if (!$sum) {
                $sum = hexdec($c);
            } elseif ($c) {
                $sum *= hexdec($c);
            }
        } while ($sum < $min && $off < 30);

        $winner = $sum%$count;

        print "Hash = $hash<br />";
        print "Product (> 10M) = $sum<br />";
        print "Winning Ticket = $winner<br />";
    }


Hopefully this assures everybody that the process of picking the raffle ticket winner is a transparent and fair one. We will be adding a page to the site where the raffle ticket assignments and past winners will be listed; expect this page to be added to the site within a few days.



Lastly, we would like to announce a policy change:

While we still require 500 qualified rolls to earn a raffle ticket, from now on (the new code is already live) only bets larger than 100 Satoshi will be counted towards raffle tickets. Furthermore, depending on bet amount, rolls will be counted towards raffle tickets as follows:

1) Bets > 1 BTC count as 2500 rolls towards a raffle ticket (ie: 5 raffle tickets per 1 BTC roll)
2) Bets > 0.1 BTC count as 250 rolls towards a raffle ticket (1/2 raffle ticket)
3) Bets > 0.001 BTC count as 25 rolls  towards a raffle ticket (1/20th raffle ticket)
4) Bets > 0.0001 BTC count as 10 rolls towards a raffle ticket (1/50th raffle ticket)
5) Bets > 0.000001 BTC count as 1 roll towards a raffle ticket (1/500th raffle ticket)
6) Bets < 0.000001 BTC do not count towards a raffle ticket



The reasoning for this is as follows:
1) We wish to discourage people betting 1 satoshi bets all day long. If you wish to bet 1 satoshi bets, that's fine. But if your only purpose in doing so is to earn raffle tickets, then this is not fair towards users who bet larger amounts.
2) We wish to reward players who bet higher amounts and give them a proportionally greater chance at winning the raffle.

In light of these changes, we converted raffle-tickets which were not submitted to 10% of the leftover amount, so you had 1000 raffle tickets left after after the last draw, you now have 100 raffle tickets left. Had we not done this, this statistics would have been very badly skewed against newly earned raffle tickets. Given the new cutoff value of 100 Satoshi bets for raffle ticket bets, a conversion of 10% seemed the most fair and balanced one we could come up with.

Lastly, raffle ticket winners have until the next draw to claim their prize; after that they forfeit their right to the prize!


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