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July 11, 2015, 09:11:00 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

100% agree with this. Nearly every site with referrals lists who they are, so you can verify them yourselves and to add some transparency. I don't see it as being a privacy concern at all.

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July 11, 2015, 10:13:33 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

100% agree with this. Nearly every site with referrals lists who they are, so you can verify them yourselves and to add some transparency. I don't see it as being a privacy concern at all.

Primedice doesn't does just - dice? Primedice states your number of affiliates that's it.

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July 11, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
Last edit: July 11, 2015, 10:38:19 PM by BetterBets.io
 #683

In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

***We are discussing this internally now to determine if it is a greater benefit to BetterBets to reveal a players name you had signed up under you, as most know we take feedback seriously. Our biggest worry is if some people would find this intrusive to privacy. If our team cannot reach a decision then we would ask players to post their opinions/vote**

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July 11, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

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July 11, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

Good idea, I'll try implement this over the next few days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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July 11, 2015, 10:42:23 PM
 #686

In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

Good idea, I'll try implement this over the next few days. Thanks for the suggestion.

Agreed it does seem to be a "best for all" type idea thanks Ranlo, very helpful.

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July 11, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

Good idea, I'll try implement this over the next few days. Thanks for the suggestion.

NP! I'd like to throw out one more suggestion as well... have it set up to... I'm not sure the term, but basically have x decimals, just for fluid purposes. For example, instead of the above, it'd be more like:

100.00000000 BTC - 5.00000000 BTC
1.00000000 BTC - 0.0500000000 BTC

Ideally, it'd go a bit further, and have zeroes at the beginning to make things flush as well. Pretty much I just like to see a quick, easy-to-read pattern, Smiley. It's not a deal-killer, but I do personally believe it makes things look a lot better.

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July 11, 2015, 10:45:57 PM
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

Good idea, I'll try implement this over the next few days. Thanks for the suggestion.

NP! I'd like to throw out one more suggestion as well... have it set up to... I'm not sure the term, but basically have x decimals, just for fluid purposes. For example, instead of the above, it'd be more like:

100.00000000 BTC - 5.00000000 BTC
1.00000000 BTC - 0.0500000000 BTC

Ideally, it'd go a bit further, and have zeroes at the beginning to make things flush as well. Pretty much I just like to see a quick, easy-to-read pattern, Smiley. It's not a deal-killer, but I do personally believe it makes things look a lot better.

No worries, I'll make it nice. I already have an idea to make your suggestion even better  Smiley
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July 11, 2015, 10:50:08 PM
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Agreed it does seem to be a "best for all" type idea thanks Ranlo, very helpful.

You guys should totally hire me on as an idea man/PR person, :p.

No worries, I'll make it nice. I already have an idea to make your suggestion even better  Smiley

I look forward to seeing what you come up with, Smiley.

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July 12, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
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Agreed it does seem to be a "best for all" type idea thanks Ranlo, very helpful.

You guys should totally hire me on as an idea man/PR person, :p.

No worries, I'll make it nice. I already have an idea to make your suggestion even better  Smiley

I look forward to seeing what you come up with, Smiley.

There may be room for more positions as staff in the future and those who helped in our early days will be considered first. Thanks again for your suggestions and reviews Smiley


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July 12, 2015, 11:52:16 AM
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This site is the only one where I have so much profit,I will always be thankful for the opportunity, an hurray for the fastest site alive
Unfortunately I lost in this site, although its the only dice site that I play.
Maybe I will try to gamble again in couple days. maybe not Smiley
 
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July 12, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
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Great site, very fast roll but lack of marketing . You should spend a lot for marketing, I'm sure this will be huge months later
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July 12, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
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Great site, very fast roll but lack of marketing . You should spend a lot for marketing, I'm sure this will be huge months later

Thank you for the compliment, we launched just under 2 months ago and I work 7 days a week to get the message out. Soon we'll do more promotions as we tap into new markets. right now we are on 12+ forums, all social media and a quick google search shows our presence after a short time:



I will continue to push so that more players from each community give us a try Smiley

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July 12, 2015, 06:00:50 PM
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Good! put your banner every where. If crap site like Dadice can pull a lot of player, I don't see why you can't

Great site, very fast roll but lack of marketing . You should spend a lot for marketing, I'm sure this will be huge months later

Thank you for the compliment, we launched just under 2 months ago and I work 7 days a week to get the message out. Soon we'll do more promotions as we tap into new markets. right now we are on 12+ forums, all social media and a quick google search shows our presence after a short time:



I will continue to push so that more players from each community give us a try Smiley
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Alright, will take your advice and spread the word Smiley

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July 12, 2015, 06:35:26 PM
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Good! put your banner every where. If crap site like Dadice can pull a lot of player, I don't see why you can't

Great site, very fast roll but lack of marketing . You should spend a lot for marketing, I'm sure this will be huge months later

Thank you for the compliment, we launched just under 2 months ago and I work 7 days a week to get the message out. Soon we'll do more promotions as we tap into new markets. right now we are on 12+ forums, all social media and a quick google search shows our presence after a short time:



I will continue to push so that more players from each community give us a try Smiley
its not crappy at all, dadice is one of the best websites because of their design and all the layout only pd is better i think
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July 12, 2015, 06:53:40 PM
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@vendetta , shut up you sig spammer. Take alook at betterbets and you will know how crap Dadice is. Don't just spam your petty useless post here
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

This is a good suggestion because I dont see why it needs to be hide because everything in transparent in moneypot public status. If you feel unsafe about the username or the person behind the UID, you can just make this like below to protect your player

A - joined 20 July 2015 - 0.54321 wagered

Also I dont see why someone is unhappy with the hall of fame and his status is show publicly. Hall of fame or not, his status is shown in moneypot public status already
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Last edit: July 12, 2015, 09:27:36 PM by BetterBets.io
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In regards to seeing the player you actually got a referral bonus from, the only way to know is if they tell you, development sees privacy concerns of the player if we were to directly reveal that. If you refer a large bettor they may not want you to know who they are especially if their bankroll is huge, hope you understand.

You are wrong about this, I dont say that I need to know their bankroll or whatever it is. I just want to check how many the person has wagered . Well everything is transparent isnt it in moneypot, I can also check your status, profit and your wagered amount through moneypot but there is no way to know who my referall is.

I am not wrong, I said players with a large bankroll would probably be opposed to showing their player names if they happen to be an affiliate (for fear of becoming a target.) I never said you asked to know what their bankroll is in my statement at all. We will be adding a field to show the number of affiliates you have on your account very shortly (just as Primedice does). In regards to the players name that will be left up to a player to decide if they want you to know who they are or signed under.

Transparency and player privacy have to be carefully done, we have even had players unhappy with the "Hall of Fame" because it shows stats publicly. It's hard to find a perfect balance but hopefully people understand.

How about doing this another way? Instead of showing the username itself, show something like this:

10203402034 - 100 BTC - 5 BTC
18030984293 - 1 BTC - 0.05 BTC

(Basically, show it like UID - Wagered - Earnings)

This gives both transparency and anonymity.

This is a good suggestion because I dont see why it needs to be hide because everything in transparent in moneypot public status. If you feel unsafe about the username or the person behind the UID, you can just make this like below to protect your player

A - joined 20 July 2015 - 0.54321 wagered

Also I dont see why someone is unhappy with the hall of fame and his status is show publicly. Hall of fame or not, his status is shown in moneypot public status already

Yes, we like and will implement something like this as ranlo suggested. I know you may not have any issues with public stats but every person/player is different, some were not happy to show off their accomplishments and we have to respect different opinions to some degree. Like I said it's hard to please everyone, but we'll try our best to find a middle ground for both sides of the anonymous fence.


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