Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison

[S4VV4S]

Will president Rand Paul pardon Ross?

i dont think a pardon is need it here, let him get a fair trial with out any corruption from the government or any political pressure and no pardon will be needed.

Giving him a fair trial is basically the same thing as giving him a pardon, no?

No.
Giving him a fair trial means he will be able to defend himself properly without anything left out.
And chances are that he will win the case once the corrupt cops that were working on his case get brought up.
You cannot trust a corrupt cop to do his job honestly, can you?

Speaking of which, how many honest cops are left do you think? And at what positions (VERY important)?

[AGD]

Possible that the FBI used Hacking Team Italy for the initial ip leak?

[Gervais]

Will president Rand Paul pardon Ross?

i dont think a pardon is need it here, let him get a fair trial with out any corruption from the government or any political pressure and no pardon will be needed.

Giving him a fair trial is basically the same thing as giving him a pardon, no?

No. In what reality do you think they'd let him off? He broke the law massively whether you agree or disagree with those laws. People go to jail for facilitating the sale or drugs and money laundering so there's no court that would ever set him free or give him a light sentence. The best hope he has is getting the verdict thrown out due to the gov crossing the line on how they collected evidence.

[QuestionAuthority]

They should let him off because he looks a little like Ross from the TV show Friends. Everyone knows Ross would never do anything really bad or Rachel would be mad at him.

[Cryddit]

Will president Rand Paul pardon Ross?

i dont think a pardon is need it here, let him get a fair trial with out any corruption from the government or any political pressure and no pardon will be needed.

Giving him a fair trial is basically the same thing as giving him a pardon, no?

Well, no.  He's guilty, duh.  A fair trial would still find him guilty and sentence him to jail time.

What it might do is sentence him fairly (ie, same term as other dope dealers, unless they actually get a conviction on the murder charge) instead of giving him many times the sentence of other equally-guilty dope dealers.

[gentlemand]

They should let him off because he looks a little like Ross from the TV show Friends. Everyone knows Ross would never do anything really bad or Rachel would be mad at him.

Agreed. Just like Amanda Knox. She's pretty good lookin' so even she did slaughter whateverhernamewas she should be allowed to walk.

[bryant.coleman]

I admit I am a bit naive when it comes to politics, but I'm talking about if he becomes president. Wouldn't he be leading the party if that happened?

Leading the party doesn't means that he can take important decisions without consulting anyone. Take Obama for example. He was against sending weapons to the Kiev junta. But the Americans ultimately decided to send weapons to the junta, as Biden and Billary was in favor of it. That said, there are places where leading the party means that you can take all the decisions without consulting anyone. North Korea for example.  

[JJB]

That said, there are places where leading the party means that you can take all the decisions without consulting anyone. North Korea for example.  

And those places are called dictatorships. Presidents can always be blocked by congress. They're not powerless but they don't have unlimited power either which is usually a good thing (but most of the time the president and congress have the same agenda so they can team up to do whatever they want (but they don't seem to like Obama much).

[interbtc]

Ross Ulbricht Sends His First Note From Prison
http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/09/convicted-silk-road-owner-ross-ulbricht-sends-his-first-note-from-prison/

[STT]

Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again

[Blackbird0]

Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again

Is that so? Do you have a link to the guy who's in prison for life for stealing a bunny toy?

[QuestionAuthority]

Theres a guy in prison for life for stealing a fluffy bunny toy, such a harsh crime put him behind bars till he dies so Im not surprised this guy will never be seen again

Is that so? Do you have a link to the guy who's in prison for life for stealing a bunny toy?

He forgot to mention it had $5 million in diamonds shoved up its ass.

[STT]

Its hardly an arcane reference, you know the California three strikes rule.   Clearly this guy is a loon because his third crime was to steal a toy

From wiki:

Curtis Wilkerson stole a pair of socks worth $2.50 in 1995. As he had had two prior convictions for robbery in 1981, aged 19, this theft was considered a third strike. He was convicted and received a life sentence

Issac Ramirez stole a VCR worth $199 from a Sears in Los Angeles, and was arrested as he was walking out of the store. Having previously been convicted of two previous shoplifting related robberies, Ramirez was sentenced to a prison term of 25 years to life

[Blackbird0]

Its hardly an arcane reference, you know the California three strikes rule.   Clearly this guy is a loon because his third crime was to steal a toy

From wiki:

Curtis Wilkerson stole a pair of socks worth $2.50 in 1995. As he had had two prior convictions for robbery in 1981, aged 19, this theft was considered a third strike. He was convicted and received a life sentence

Issac Ramirez stole a VCR worth $199 from a Sears in Los Angeles, and was arrested as he was walking out of the store. Having previously been convicted of two previous shoplifting related robberies, Ramirez was sentenced to a prison term of 25 years to life

So we're comparing apples and oranges: a recidivist offender sentencing provision, and the sentence of a first-time offender.

I don't like the California three strikes, but we don't do ourselves any favors over here when we compare Ulbricht's sentences to those.

[AGD]

Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:

http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/

“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”

[BADecker]

Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.

[keyscore44]

Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.

or Ross could try and do an El Chapo and escape from maximum security prison (it's the second time he's managed to do it) :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/mexican-drug-lord-joaquin-el-chapo-guzman-escapes-prison

[rich93]

Any time we want to get Ross freed, all we need is to convince Mom to require her property returned to her in court. The law she would use is 7th Amendment common law - which is not the common law of today, court cases - and the 9th Amendment rights law. These amendments are for people of all times, and were written before any statutes were made. So they apply above and beyond all statutes.

or Ross could try and do an El Chapo and escape from maximum security prison (it's the second time he's managed to do it) :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/mexican-drug-lord-joaquin-el-chapo-guzman-escapes-prison

Ross might have a large stash of Bitcoins hidden somewhere but El Chapo is far richer than him, and has a powerful mafia backing him with the capability of breaking him out. Ross dealt with criminals in a virtual way and never knew who they were. I doubt any of them or their mafias would help him escape prison.

[misterycoins]

It is clearly to set a strong example, They don't want 10 others to do the same. If they give 20 years some people will take their chance

[cbeast]

There is an Eve Online corporation alliance called Free Worlds Alliance. It was founded by Dread PirateRoberts. https://zkillboard.com/character/1473889043/page/6/ shows a two month gap in his killboard at the time of the April 2013 spike. There is another gap in October 2013 with the second spike and Ross Ulbricht's arrest. His activity then declines and ends in Sept 2014. If nothing else, it suggests some link to Bitcoin if not the actual DPR.