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January 06, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
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Hello, we started a pool: http://xdn.mypool.name with updated daemon.

Let us find first pool's block Smiley

Not to be rude, but if your pool isn't merge-mining, then your pool is stupid.

The pool isn't merge-mining  Wink It just runs 'standard' XDN Team's pool software  Cheesy

I saw, but now that you can merge mine XDN with another parent coin it makes absolutely no sense to mine without merge mining. No sane person should mine at your pool. It's too bad minergate is only merge mining pool, and that there's no open source merge mining pool software, but that is the situation at present.

You didn't understand my smiles. Thank you for explanation, but my smiles mean:

"The pool isn't merge-mining  Wink" = do you know any opensourced pool with merge-mining?
"It just runs 'standard' XDN Team's pool software  Cheesy" = even XND and FCN 'original' pools don't support merge-mining.

Thank you for explanation once again, but it's obvious for everyone who knows what means merge-mining.

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January 06, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
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There's no open source merge mining pool software, no. This is why minergate controls over 50% of the network hashrate, and I think dNote has suggested that there must be another private pool that has mergemine software, because it makes literally zero sense to mine an auxpow coin if you're not merge mining it.
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January 06, 2017, 06:22:39 PM
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Hello, we started a pool: http://xdn.mypool.name with updated daemon.

Let us find first pool's block Smiley

Not to be rude, but if your pool isn't merge-mining, then your pool is stupid.

The pool isn't merge-mining  Wink It just runs 'standard' XDN Team's pool software  Cheesy

I saw, but now that you can merge mine XDN with another parent coin it makes absolutely no sense to mine without merge mining. No sane person should mine at your pool. It's too bad minergate is only merge mining pool, and that there's no open source merge mining pool software, but that is the situation at present.

You didn't understand my smiles. Thank you for explanation, but my smiles mean:

"The pool isn't merge-mining  Wink" = do you know any opensourced pool with merge-mining?
"It just runs 'standard' XDN Team's pool software  Cheesy" = even XND and FCN 'original' pools don't support merge-mining.

Thank you for explanation once again, but it's obvious for everyone who knows what means merge-mining.


XDN team is not dealing with the mining pool software. The one you can find in our repository is just a fork, we are not the authors. But it is good to have different pools including not merged mining pools. Eventually, there can be users, insane users (as jwinterm call them  Grin) mining only single xdn.
The real contribution is to implement an open source merged mining pool. I believe that developer who will do it will have a huge profit from it. You can try if you have enough skills.

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January 06, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
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Quote from: dNote
XDN team is not dealing with the mining pool software. The one you can find in our repository is just a fork, we are not the authors. But it is good to have different pools including not merged mining pools. Eventually, there can be users, insane users (as jwinterm call them  Grin) mining only single xdn.
The real contribution is to implement an open source merged mining pool. I believe that developer who will do it will have a huge profit from it. You can try if you have enough skills.

I completely understand, that adapting pool is a non trivial task. That is why insane users are welcome! :-)

So, pool mod is not in your todo list? Just because of:

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Ladies and Gentlemen,
We are happy to announce the major XDN update with merged mining support.
After the hardfork users will be able to mine DigitalNote XDN and any other CryptoNote coin at the same time, using the same energy to protect XDN network. This will extremely empower the XDN network. After all HF we will release merged mining miners and will update open source pool software with merged mining support.

If it's not in todo I think it's better to edit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082745.0 to avoid confusion.

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January 06, 2017, 06:36:23 PM
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Guys if you are sending us some messages with the XDN messaging system you must mark the Add "Reply to" if you want to receive the answer. XDN messages is absolutely anonymous by default recipient can't know the sender if only the sender will not include his address in the message body - we have a Reply to for that.

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January 06, 2017, 06:37:26 PM
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Quote from: dNote
XDN team is not dealing with the mining pool software. The one you can find in our repository is just a fork, we are not the authors. But it is good to have different pools including not merged mining pools. Eventually, there can be users, insane users (as jwinterm call them  Grin) mining only single xdn.
The real contribution is to implement an open source merged mining pool. I believe that developer who will do it will have a huge profit from it. You can try if you have enough skills.

I completely understand, that adapting pool is a non trivial task. That is why insane users are welcome! :-)

So, pool mod is not in your todo list? Just because of:

Quote
Ladies and Gentlemen,
We are happy to announce the major XDN update with merged mining support.
After the hardfork users will be able to mine DigitalNote XDN and any other CryptoNote coin at the same time, using the same energy to protect XDN network. This will extremely empower the XDN network. After all HF we will release merged mining miners and will update open source pool software with merged mining support.

If it's not in todo I think it's better to edit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082745.0 to avoid confusion.

It is on our list, but no timeframes, sorry, we have lots of stuff to do.

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January 07, 2017, 08:08:50 AM
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Hello dNote,

I have seen news #1 and #2.
Did I miss #3 or it was not published yet?

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January 07, 2017, 08:24:46 AM
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Hello dNote,

I have seen news #1 and #2.
Did I miss #3 or it was not published yet?

see this:

Remember to update your XDN to the latest version.
Ann 3 next week.
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January 07, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
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There's no open source merge mining pool software, no. This is why minergate controls over 50% of the network hashrate, and I think dNote has suggested that there must be another private pool that has mergemine software, because it makes literally zero sense to mine an auxpow coin if you're not merge mining it.
This is not acceptable for a coin, merged mining was rushed and it ended very badly, price continued down, sorry but i will not join a ponzi scheme hoping to sell my XDN to a greater fool, i prefer just shorting after/during a peak.

The way XDN is distributed allows for shameless pumping, i am not the first one to say this but distributing 50% the first month(excluding the constant block reward of 150XDN) is a really horrible idea, i have a much better suggestion linked below all my posts but it appears no one cares about there fundamentals anymore, people are just looking for money and ignore fundamental flaws with these coins.

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January 07, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
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There's no open source merge mining pool software, no. This is why minergate controls over 50% of the network hashrate, and I think dNote has suggested that there must be another private pool that has mergemine software, because it makes literally zero sense to mine an auxpow coin if you're not merge mining it.
This is not acceptable for a coin, merged mining was rushed and it ended very badly, price continued down, sorry but i will not join a ponzi scheme hoping to sell my XDN to a greater fool, i prefer just shorting after/during a peak.

The way XDN is distributed allows for shameless pumping, i am not the first one to say this but distributing 50% the first month(excluding the constant block reward of 150XDN) is a really horrible idea, i have a much better suggestion linked below all my posts but it appears no one cares about there fundamentals anymore, people are just looking for money and ignore fundamental flaws with these coins.

The thing is, XDN is cheap enough atm to mitigate the early distribution. People can accumulate during this phase no matter how limited their means. The main thing that counts for adoption and market interest is tech and integration. Merged mining is a good idea, also things like distributed exchanges, payment gateways and shopping cart plugins.


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January 07, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
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The thing is, XDN is cheap enough atm to mitigate the early distribution. People can accumulate during this phase no matter how limited their means. The main thing that counts for adoption and market interest is tech and integration. Merged mining is a good idea, also things like distributed exchanges, payment gateways and shopping cart plugins.
That is the ultimate bagholder excuse "this epic fail price is good for distribution" in reality not many people will buy now and the price has temporary being held up by pumpers/investors. What you want is the price to be low in the beginning due to a lot of coins being mined and going up incrementally like bitcoin and monero. The main reason why you do not want to decrease the block reward too fast is not to have a fair distribution, it is about network security, merged mining is not a viable solution, just a desperate attempt to save a failing coin.

In practice the dash masternode system is much more centralized and secure than this mess, i am not saying dash is good, only that the XDN price is low for a reason.

Please not that if the price would go up temporarily it will not prove me wrong, only that the ponzi scheme (pump) was successful, eventually it will go down of course(just look at the previous insane pump).

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January 08, 2017, 03:52:41 AM
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The thing is, XDN is cheap enough atm to mitigate the early distribution. People can accumulate during this phase no matter how limited their means. The main thing that counts for adoption and market interest is tech and integration. Merged mining is a good idea, also things like distributed exchanges, payment gateways and shopping cart plugins.
That is the ultimate bagholder excuse "this epic fail price is good for distribution" in reality not many people will buy now and the price has temporary being held up by pumpers/investors. What you want is the price to be low in the beginning due to a lot of coins being mined and going up incrementally like bitcoin and monero. The main reason why you do not want to decrease the block reward too fast is not to have a fair distribution, it is about network security, merged mining is not a viable solution, just a desperate attempt to save a failing coin.

In practice the dash masternode system is much more centralized and secure than this mess, i am not saying dash is good, only that the XDN price is low for a reason.

Please not that if the price would go up temporarily it will not prove me wrong, only that the ponzi scheme (pump) was successful, eventually it will go down of course(just look at the previous insane pump).

You are here (in xdn topic) for less than 3 months, being the xmr supporter (most of your recent posts belongs to xmr) you are trying to spread the FUD here. Your conclusions are just wrong...

XDN is more that 2.5-year-old, implementing the brand new tech here for free, implementing the ideas of Free Market Economy via the blockchain.

Eventually, this is a free space of thoughts and decisions.

I think everybody incl. you will be happy if you will dump your xdn (if you even have it) and leave. There is no point to spread the FUD here, it is clear that you are here for fast profit or for spreading the FUD, not for the TECH.
So why are you wasting time here if you have no doubts in your thoughts? This is my last answer to you, I don't want to waste my time answering trolls, there are dozens of them on this forum, you are not the first one, not the last one...

Please, leave this community, we don't want that kind of people here.


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January 08, 2017, 05:10:46 AM
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Remember to update your XDN from https://github.com/xdn-project/digitalnote/releases DigitalNote v4.0.1-beta
This version has an increased default block size limit to 200kb.
Poloniex is using an outdated software (like they always do), they should update it and there will be no problems at all.
In future try to avoid Poloniex for trading XDN-project coins.

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January 08, 2017, 05:12:58 AM
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THE DAY is coming. Wait for the Announce 3 from Jan 10 to Jan 12.

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How many developers in XDN team, BTW?

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You are here (in xdn topic) for less than 3 months, being the xmr supporter (most of your recent posts belongs to xmr) you are trying to spread the FUD here. Your conclusions are just wrong...

XDN is more that 2.5-year-old, implementing the brand new tech here for free, implementing the ideas of Free Market Economy via the blockchain.

I think everybody incl. you will be happy if you will dump your xdn (if you even have it) and leave. There is no point to spread the FUD here, it is clear that you are here for fast profit or for spreading the FUD, not for the TECH.
So why are you wasting time here if you have no doubts in your thoughts? This is my last answer to you, I don't want to waste my time answering trolls, there are dozens of them on this forum, you are not the first one, not the last one...
No your conclusions are wrong, i am not an xmr-supporter, xmr have the following issues
-too long confirmation time
-no "bells and whistles" such ad the ability to send messages.
-severe scalabinity issues.

I do not hold any coin atm, i have lost faith in the current cryptocurrencies, i did not even buy xmr at 0.006 (i regret that now).

Long tern holding does not suit me, i prefer quick profits, shorting overhyped coins can be fun.

The harsh truth is that you have ruined your coins with poor decisions and now you do not want to face the truth, the truth is always really horrible and most people choice to live in fantasy land instead, a good way to lose money trading.

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January 08, 2017, 10:24:42 AM
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How many developers in XDN team, BTW?

Good question, but actually I can't give you the very accurate answer. The core team is about 7 people leaving all over the World and working dedicated. But if we will count all the people around who are consulting us and working with us partly and working with the XDN API there will be much more people, lets say about 30. Hope I answered your question.

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January 08, 2017, 10:42:32 AM
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Today i get a answer from Polo about my stucked trans:

Apologies for the late response.

The transaction was not rejected by the network its just that it hasn't confirmed as of yet.

https://minergate.com/blockchain/xdn/transaction/ef3a763cb884a19af6231c0595af4b25ee2edd3b16454e1ef14f48a6d3e74c5f

As you can see there is an ample amount transaction fee on this and I'm afraid this is now at the mercy of the network. Rest assured we'll keep an eye on this and we'll broadcast it again should it be necessary.

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Long tern holding does not suit me, i prefer quick profits, shorting overhyped coins can be fun.

The harsh truth is that you have ruined your coins with poor decisions and now you do not want to face the truth, the truth is always really horrible and most people choice to live in fantasy land instead, a good way to lose money trading.


I am glad to answer the direct and honest critique, not trolling.
XDN is not "my coin" and for sure it was not ruined by the community decisions. Merged mining is a collective decision, it was announced in the early summer and there was a public Poll for that decision.
In fact merged mining made XDN blockchain 10x times more secure than it was before. The recent XDN price drop is caused by Polo delisting and panic sales there. I believe there is no connection between the price drop and merged mining because it only made XDN stronger.
We are not traders, we are devs, we are believers, you may think that we are living in fantasy land and you will be surprised when this fantasies will be real Wink

P.S. Look at the XDN price chart for 2.5 years, if it seems as a big price drop after the recent Poloniex pump it is not such a big drop in fact. The average XDN price for 2.5y is about 10-20 satoshi and if you will compare it with the US dollars those who are holding XDN are still in profit.
Like on Jan 6 2016 the price was 14 satoshi and the price is 13 satoshi now but the Bitcoin price was 430$ on Jan 6 2016 and it is 930$ now.

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January 08, 2017, 11:01:26 AM
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Today i get a answer from Polo about my stucked trans:

Apologies for the late response.

The transaction was not rejected by the network its just that it hasn't confirmed as of yet.

https://minergate.com/blockchain/xdn/transaction/ef3a763cb884a19af6231c0595af4b25ee2edd3b16454e1ef14f48a6d3e74c5f

As you can see there is an ample amount transaction fee on this and I'm afraid this is now at the mercy of the network. Rest assured we'll keep an eye on this and we'll broadcast it again should it be necessary.

Best regards,

Jerichk
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Really? They are checking transactions not in their daemon as they should but based on the side explorer, this is just wrong. As we concluded Minergate must be saving all the unconfirmed transactions in their DB.
If they only will use the latest XDN version there will be no problems at all. But as I said many time - DO NOT USE POLONIEX FOR XDN, there is such a mess there. They are making thousands of dollars, delisting and holding your coins and still are too lazy (or not honest) to make do their business well. Shame on them.

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