Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST

[Haplo]

Alright. Well I now have a pretty good idea of what needs to be done and in what order. I'll PM you tomorrow goat, and we'll start a new thread on getting this moving. I really didn't want to have to get this involved, but I guess if everyone else is gonna puss out every time pirate says "Boo"..

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[sgravina]

... Pirate clearly won.

Awesome.  Now pirateat40 will feel better.  Winning will give him the presence of mind he needs to give Goat his coins back.  Then goat will give me my coins back.

If I get the money back soon enough I will never have to explain to my wife that I bought bonds from a goat.

[thebaron]

I was told I now have control over the collected data so since pirate was able to scare off some key people we will need to reevaluate.

I'm not even sure why I bother with legit business if people really are this consistantly dumb.

[penetration]

Wish I witnessed this earlier. Comical scheme, really.

[conspirosphere.tk]

they are very hopeful pirate will pay back. They still trust him and are scared of his threats. He clearly divided the people wanting to sue him. so we either wait, or have a much smaller group sue him. Pirate clearly won.

They whom? That 4 spineless suckers on irc? And where do you collect the people availability to sue him? Nobody asked me.
Anyway legally speaking it should not make lots of difference if a few or many sue him (apart from the slice of legal fees).

I am readying another load of popcorn for when we will know what the hell Pirate really did with the BTC from a tribunal (I don't expect much more, apart maybe his conviction, since I dont' think he would be still around if he had the BTC).

[conspirosphere.tk]

And where do you collect the people availability to sue him? Nobody asked me.

I am in Thailand and I do not want to pay all of the fees myself. I wanted to work with others on this but I am very willing to let someone else take the lead. I have a large collection of data to hand over.
Thanks.

I thought that you had already established some agreement with a few big lenders. So nobody wants to take the lead?
The fees should be obviously shared proportionally.

[repentance]

It doesn't really matter much whether or not pirate has a lawyer at this point or not.  There's no injunction freezing his non-Bitcoin assets or restraining him from doing whatever the fuck he wants with any BTC which might be under his control (assuming there are any).  He can pay people or not totally on a whim right now and there's little anyone can do about it. 

Yeah, he's fucking with people's heads, but lets not pretend that those to whom he owes BTC are the ones in the position of power right now. 

[Haplo]

I've sent a PM to goat. We'll get this handled soon enough. There's also less of a downside for us than you might think, although we've wasted a lot of time which is not in our favor.

[EskimoBob]

If you missed  it on IRC:

2012-09-17 15:14:56     @pirateat40     Hello
2012-09-17 15:15:35     @pirateat40     Q: What's going on?  A: In short, one of my largest clients decided they would make things difficult for me.  In the heat of the moment I made a move to secure the USD backing the coins when they were not returned and has made things much more difficult.
2012-09-17 15:15:42     @pirateat40     Q: Where have you been?  A: I realize not having information is annoying and somewhat concerning. I’ve stopped responding publicly until hard information was available due to some legal concerns that developed.  Once the attorneys (both mine and my clients) got involved, everything slowed down while everything was sorted out.
2012-09-17 15:15:47     @pirateat40     Q: When will we get our coins? A: As of today the earliest estimated time that coins can begin moving is Friday, Oct 12th.  I can only keep you updated on this date as I have more information.
2012-09-17 15:15:53     @pirateat40     Q: Why did you require PPT operators to submit their account holders information?  A: There’re a few reasons for doing this.  The largest of which was to remove the PPT operators from the added risk of their users claiming they were not paid once the main account was paid. The other reasons can not be disclosed.
2012-09-17 15:15:59     @pirateat40     Q: What is going to happen with bond issuers? A: Since bonds can be traded and have taken a large hit due to the closure of BTCST, I’ll be working with the bond issuers to find a solution that best suits their investors.
2012-09-17 15:16:05     @pirateat40     Also...
2012-09-17 15:16:10     @pirateat40     Those looking to file a suit against me or BTCST will not be eligible for repayment.
2012-09-17 15:16:16     @pirateat40     GPUMAX has never been associated with BTCST nor have any of it’s partners.  GPUMAX shared a wallet with one of the BTCST operating wallets for security and is now running it’s own secured wallet which is no longer associated with BTCST.
2012-09-17 15:16:21     @pirateat40     Threats are taken seriously by myself and my attorney.  A few of you will find out how serious I mean.
2012-09-17 15:16:27     @pirateat40     That’s all for now, I’ll be providing updates here when more information is available.  Thanks
2012-09-17 15:17:08     @pirateat40     http://pastebin.com/e3gGFC37
 

[Justin00]

So are you saying people had lawyers involved.. pirate made his announcement.. and the lawyers have now advised people not to do anything anymore ?

[Justin00]

nah I mean people wanting to Sue Pirate. They had lawyers ? and those lawyers advised them to stop... ?

[greyhawk]

nah I mean people wanting to Sue Pirate. They had lawyers ? and those lawyers advised them to stop... ?

They had no lawyers. They went "Imma gonna sue that there Captain Blackbeard", then called for mom to bring em another sammich.

Well, besides goat. He might have a lawyer.

[unclescrooge]

they feared if we took legal action Pirate would not pay up...

That's not how it works.
That's stupid, so stupid...

[greyhawk]

If you people sue me for not doing the thing you want me to do in order to force me to do the thing you want me to do, I am not going to to the thing you want me to do, that I wasn't going to do in the first place.


Say that 10 times really fast.

[smoothie]

If you people sue me for not doing the thing you want me to do in order to force me to do the thing you want me to do, I am not going to to the thing you want me to do, that I wasn't going to do in the first place.


Say that 10 times really fast.

We need more pirate comedy.

I would actually donate if someone made youtube videos mocking all of his retarded comments about repaying investors.

[greyhawk]

We need more pirate comedy.

I would actually donate if someone made youtube videos mocking all of his retarded comments about repaying investors.

Let me go post a thread asking for a loan involuntary donations to buy a webcam real quick.

[Smoovious]

If you people sue me for not doing the thing you want me to do in order to force me to do the thing you want me to do, I am not going to to the thing you want me to do, that I wasn't going to do in the first place.


Say that 10 times really fast.

... and say it with a pirate accent ...

-- Smoov

[SysRun]

It's not like he's over in Nigeria. He doesn't have as much power as he thinks.

I mean, as soon as he pays... Theoretically... Who would give him the time of day?

Also, his father is giving conflicting information effectively ruining whatever lies he comes out with.

And then there's the extortion. Liability is liability.

[danieldaniel]

It's not like he's over in Nigeria. He doesn't have as much power as he thinks.

I mean, as soon as he pays... Theoretically... Who would give him the time of day?

Also, his father is giving conflicting information effectively ruining whatever lies he comes out with.

And then there's the extortion. Liability is liability.

yeah admitting he has a debt and then extortion. im just waiting to see what my lawyer says about this and what i should do.

its going be lulz.

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Haz teh lulz ben tould yet?

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Also, shouldn't you not be saying _anything_ until you talk to the lawyer?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

It's not like he's over in Nigeria. He doesn't have as much power as he thinks.

I mean, as soon as he pays... Theoretically... Who would give him the time of day?

Also, his father is giving conflicting information effectively ruining whatever lies he comes out with.

And then there's the extortion. Liability is liability.

yeah admitting he has a debt and then extortion. im just waiting to see what my lawyer says about this and what i should do.

its going be lulz.

My take is that he feels he's in a trap. Most the money is gone and the coins are locked away for future tapping. TS effed up in one major regard and that was letting his true identity be known for now his family is involved on his end. We don't know anything about Tom Williams or Zhou Tong's family. Hell, we even know what church TS attends(ed) thanks to his dad. Imagine if his dad was excommunicated due to him having a son who conducted the largest crypto-currency on the internet. Thanks to one man's actions, the whole family will forever feel the fallout caused by their kinfolk. Thus, it's this aspect alone that has Trendon Shavers the most concern. He could care less about those from which the money came from.

At some point, I envision the dad stepping in and doing everything possible to make this right and protect his family from any future scorn. That's the only hope left, I believe, in recovering any funds. As it already has been proven, there is no lawyer involved at Trendon's end. Just words.

~Bruno~