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 July 18, 2011, 05:49:00 AM

Makes no difference to me either way bitcoin gets into wallet and still they are just estimates....  ESTIMATES it is going to flux thus why we call them estimates lol

Lets looks at the very definition of Estimate:
–verb (used with object)
1. to form an approximate judgment or opinion regarding the worth, amount, size, weight, etc., of; calculate approximately: to estimate the cost of a college education.
2. to form an opinion of; judge.
–verb (used without object)
3. to make an estimate.
–noun
4. an approximate judgment or calculation, as of the value, amount, time, size, or weight of something.
5. a judgment or opinion, as of the qualities of a person or thing.
6. a statement of the approximate charge for work to be done, submitted by a person or business firm ready to undertake the work.
—Synonyms
1.  compute, count, reckon, gauge, assess, value, evaluate, appraise.
4.  valuation, calculation, appraisal.

Therefor asking for a truer estimate is like asking for a truer number of chicken eggs to hatch we really cant tell cause pardon my french but shit happens.
thus the saying you can count your eggs before they have hatched.

So yes I realize we want thing to be perfect but that just not gonna happen I want Resistors to be exactly correct when I make a circuit, but that is few and
far between I still have to fudge the numbers or build with tolerances in mind when I design circuits. So AS long as your getting payed and there is no major
discrepancies don't make such a fit about something that is an estimate ruffle feathers.

so when looking at a "estimate" keep in mind it is just that an estimate. The pool can make step to make it more accurate but in the long run its still gonna change.

Please excuse my chicken references as I am from Kansas originally Living in Arizona thus farm land are in my past lol.
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 July 18, 2011, 12:11:59 PM

I'm fine either way. The math is easy to do if you want to see the pure proportional estimate
Pure proportional estimate = (your current shares / rounds's shares) * 49.5

So as long as you have a calculator or are really good with an abacus, you can have it both ways.
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 July 18, 2011, 09:09:05 PM

Just added simplecoin to the guiminer ui. Hopefully it'll be standard in the next release.

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 July 18, 2011, 09:35:31 PM

Just added simplecoin to the guiminer ui. Hopefully it'll be standard in the next release.
YAY!

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 July 18, 2011, 10:19:49 PM

Ok, I did some digging on the stale shares....

It seems most likely that it is router/isp dependent. Longer connections like long-polling tend to be killed off by routers or disrupted by flaky isps/traffic routes. Your stales shouldn't fluctuate much between pools, with the exception of mega pools with tons of workers. That said, a bad route to the server from your ISP could cause certain pools to have higher stale rates.

If the pool gets large enough, I'll likely setup pushpool nodes in hotspots near high-usage locations similar to btcguild.

In the case of a bad network route, I'm not enough of a network guy to know if it can be rerouted easily from your end.

In the case of a router killing connections (seems my wifi accesspoint has this issue), I'd try a different one or a reconfigure.

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 July 18, 2011, 10:32:49 PM

Current site fees, transaction fees, and round scoring are now dynamically listed on the Home page. These are the exact same database entries used for payout calculation.

I'll be migrating this to the github source shortly. Just one more way for the site to be completely open with our users.

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 July 19, 2011, 06:40:55 AM

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of stale shares on this, and not a lot at bitcoin.lc (I have them set as a backup miner). Almost 25% for you guys, and less than 2% on bitcoin.lc

Any idea what's going on?
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 July 19, 2011, 06:51:21 AM

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of stale shares on this, and not a lot at bitcoin.lc (I have them set as a backup miner). Almost 25% for you guys, and less than 2% on bitcoin.lc

Any idea what's going on?

That's really odd. I have 13 stales on my main miner after 1 day. PM me your IP so I can have the colo try to track down any routing problems. Also, it wouldn't hurt to know what miner you are using, and cpu or gpu mining. Also, have you tried restarting your miner (could be LP issues)?

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 July 19, 2011, 10:30:10 AM

Woo new block!
cbbitcoin
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 July 19, 2011, 11:59:26 AM

DING!

SC- if this sucker matures, please roll my bonus on to the next round
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 July 19, 2011, 01:28:43 PM

That's really odd. I have 13 stales on my main miner after 1 day. PM me your IP so I can have the colo try to track down any routing problems. Also, it wouldn't hurt to know what miner you are using, and cpu or gpu mining. Also, have you tried restarting your miner (could be LP issues)?

Restarted it, and just looking quickly I have 35 Accepted and 19 Stale.  IP is 98.232.43.92, and I'm using a phatk Pheonix miner under guiminer. In case it matter what hardware, it's a 5750.
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 July 19, 2011, 01:31:13 PM

Woo new block!

Nice! a lucky one If my calcs are right, that should more than make up for our last 2 long rounds

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 July 19, 2011, 02:23:57 PM

That's really odd. I have 13 stales on my main miner after 1 day. PM me your IP so I can have the colo try to track down any routing problems. Also, it wouldn't hurt to know what miner you are using, and cpu or gpu mining. Also, have you tried restarting your miner (could be LP issues)?

Restarted it, and just looking quickly I have 35 Accepted and 19 Stale.  IP is 98.232.43.92, and I'm using a phatk Pheonix miner under guiminer. In case it matter what hardware, it's a 5750.

Wow, I did a traceroute to your IP from the server, looks like you might have some laggy hops on comcast on the west coast. Somehow I get a better connection from Comcast Nashville,TN to the servers in LA.

I'm not sure the best way to attack the issue, but I'm looking into it.

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 July 19, 2011, 02:26:36 PM

Once the site has enough liquid balance, I'm thinking about adding unconfirmed payouts in a manner similar to btcguild. Any interest?

Additionally, transaction fees will be reduced to 0BTC as soon as I can get all of the code in place.

UPDATE: No more tx fees!

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 July 19, 2011, 07:22:02 PM

Wait...wait...wait! We got another block?
Sweet! Right before diff. change. 1,690,906 isn't so bad!
Good job CB!
Once the site has enough liquid balance, I'm thinking about adding unconfirmed payouts in a manner similar to btcguild. Any interest?

Additionally, transaction fees will be reduced to 0BTC as soon as I can get all of the code in place.

UPDATE: No more tx fees!
I like the idea of an unconfirmed balance box!
and no tx fees is always good!

What about the 24hr hashrate chart. Mine hasn't worked...ever! I only ask because, when I'm at work, and if something crashes, I can tell how long my miners have *not* been working.

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 July 19, 2011, 08:05:56 PM

Wait...wait...wait! We got another block?
Sweet! Right before diff. change. 1,690,906 isn't so bad!
Good job CB!
Once the site has enough liquid balance, I'm thinking about adding unconfirmed payouts in a manner similar to btcguild. Any interest?

Additionally, transaction fees will be reduced to 0BTC as soon as I can get all of the code in place.

UPDATE: No more tx fees!
I like the idea of an unconfirmed balance box!
and no tx fees is always good!

What about the 24hr hashrate chart. Mine hasn't worked...ever! I only ask because, when I'm at work, and if something crashes, I can tell how long my miners have *not* been working.

I didn't know the chart was having issues. I'll put it on my list of issues. If you see an error can you PM me the details. Also on the todo list is a way to make the stats update faster along with miner failure email notification.

Update: Working on not just faster stats, but live stats.

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 July 19, 2011, 09:43:57 PM

Wait...wait...wait! We got another block?
Sweet! Right before diff. change. 1,690,906 isn't so bad!
Good job CB!
Once the site has enough liquid balance, I'm thinking about adding unconfirmed payouts in a manner similar to btcguild. Any interest?

Additionally, transaction fees will be reduced to 0BTC as soon as I can get all of the code in place.

UPDATE: No more tx fees!
I like the idea of an unconfirmed balance box!
and no tx fees is always good!

What about the 24hr hashrate chart. Mine hasn't worked...ever! I only ask because, when I'm at work, and if something crashes, I can tell how long my miners have *not* been working.

I didn't know the chart was having issues. I'll put it on my list of issues. If you see an error can you PM me the details. Also on the todo list is a way to make the stats update faster along with miner failure email notification.

Update: Working on not just faster stats, but live stats.
I like the sound of that!
Thanks for all the hard work SC!

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 July 20, 2011, 12:17:01 AM

Big site update happening after this latest round is rewarded.

Live Round stats, live round estimates, better worker stats, better block identification and hopefully less server load.

This update will not require me to bring the pool or site down. The only thing noticeable should be stat miscalculations during the upgrade (You'll know it's fixed once your stats are live.

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thavok
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 July 20, 2011, 01:06:46 AM

Finally got my rig back up and running should be around 750mh by tomorrow! thanks for all the hard work on the site.
Kintera
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 July 20, 2011, 03:10:37 AM

Awesome SC this pool is developing nicely i'm definitively keep 60- 75% of my mining resources here till we grow a little more then i will increase. but i think every weekend i will put 100 percent here.
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