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August 29, 2011, 03:47:41 PM
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Solidcoin pool down?
For about 5½hrs now! I awoke to 4hrs of idle miners!
so sad. well back to btc
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August 29, 2011, 04:24:47 PM
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Solidcoin client locked hard last night. I'm restarting now.

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August 30, 2011, 12:09:35 AM
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I'm offering up Megaupload premium vouchers to random active users in a week. signup is on the simplecoin forum.

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August 30, 2011, 04:15:18 AM
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As soon as I finish up the block stats, I'm off to give the site a massive new feature set....

Multi-coin, multi-pool. Your choice of pool (prop, pplns, smpps), your choice of coin (btc,sc,etc). All with one interface, one mining port, and no required fees.

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August 30, 2011, 04:22:45 AM
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As soon as I finish up the block stats, I'm off to give the site a massive new feature set....

Multi-coin, multi-pool. Your choice of pool (prop, pplns, smpps), your choice of coin (btc,sc,etc). All with one interface, one mining port, and no required fees.


Wouldn't that allow hopping? Actually, if you allow changes from Prop to PPS people wouldn't even have to leave your pool to hop! SmileyTongue
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August 30, 2011, 04:24:07 AM
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As soon as I finish up the block stats, I'm off to give the site a massive new feature set....

Multi-coin, multi-pool. Your choice of pool (prop, pplns, smpps), your choice of coin (btc,sc,etc). All with one interface, one mining port, and no required fees.

Sounds great! I can't wait to see the implementation!  Cool

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August 30, 2011, 04:26:13 AM
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As soon as I finish up the block stats, I'm off to give the site a massive new feature set....

Multi-coin, multi-pool. Your choice of pool (prop, pplns, smpps), your choice of coin (btc,sc,etc). All with one interface, one mining port, and no required fees.


Wouldn't that allow hopping? Actually, if you allow changes from Prop to PPS people wouldn't even have to leave your pool to hop! SmileyTongue
This is a good point! It could be combated by not allowing a change mid block! Wink

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August 30, 2011, 04:27:28 AM
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As soon as I finish up the block stats, I'm off to give the site a massive new feature set....

Multi-coin, multi-pool. Your choice of pool (prop, pplns, smpps), your choice of coin (btc,sc,etc). All with one interface, one mining port, and no required fees.


Wouldn't that allow hopping? Actually, if you allow changes from Prop to PPS people wouldn't even have to leave your pool to hop! SmileyTongue
This is a good point! It could be combated by not allowing a change mid block! Wink

Well, you could still hop to another pool Tongue
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August 30, 2011, 04:43:14 AM
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The kicker is that they will all be separate pools, with separate payouts.... There is no way to allow all 3 in one pool as the pool would hemorrhage coins.

UPDATE: The new block info is in place. Unfortunately some of the blocks were combined in archiving, others haven't been archived.

I'll be working on getting the future data in each block cleaned up so we have better stats moving forward.

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August 30, 2011, 10:19:06 AM
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How about bringing up solidcoin pool so users can withdraw their unconfirmed coins.

This is rediculous.

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August 30, 2011, 10:28:48 AM
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The kicker is that they will all be separate pools, with separate payouts.... There is no way to allow all 3 in one pool as the pool would hemorrhage coins.

UPDATE: The new block info is in place. Unfortunately some of the blocks were combined in archiving, others haven't been archived.

I'll be working on getting the future data in each block cleaned up so we have better stats moving forward.

While I'm all for choice I see two problems with this:

  • The mining resources will be split and everyone will experience increased variance.
  • The proportional payout system is quite complicated and requires much more overhead.  If you have the server resources to handle it then fine but I think it's important to let people know what pool-hopping is and give them links to the appropriate threads and software.
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August 30, 2011, 05:12:28 PM
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How about bringing up solidcoin pool so users can withdraw their unconfirmed coins.

This is rediculous.

The pool is up. If there was an outage it corrected itself. I'm looking into the logs now.

I don't see an outage in the logs either, or even the monitor restarting a locked service.

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August 30, 2011, 05:20:19 PM
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The kicker is that they will all be separate pools, with separate payouts.... There is no way to allow all 3 in one pool as the pool would hemorrhage coins.

UPDATE: The new block info is in place. Unfortunately some of the blocks were combined in archiving, others haven't been archived.

I'll be working on getting the future data in each block cleaned up so we have better stats moving forward.

While I'm all for choice I see two problems with this:

  • The mining resources will be split and everyone will experience increased variance.
  • The proportional payout system is quite complicated and requires much more overhead.  If you have the server resources to handle it then fine but I think it's important to let people know what pool-hopping is and give them links to the appropriate threads and software.


Hopefully, it will draw others to the pool. I assume most of our current base enjoys lastNshares.

As for overhead, proportional payout is even less overhead than lastNShares (db size is smaller, less range scans). I'm aware that proportional will increase pool hopping, but it won't affect the lastNshares pool as it will be separate. By default, miners will be set to lastNshares.

Additionally, if the overhead is significant, I just scale up the servers.

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August 30, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
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Rebuilt and restarted bitcoind, it had a steady memory leak and was starting to eat into swap and slow responses. That said, the outage should have been around 1minute.

That said, even with a memory leak it ran for a good couple of weeks without a restart.

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August 30, 2011, 10:40:09 PM
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Rebuilt and restarted bitcoind, it had a steady memory leak and was starting to eat into swap and slow responses. That said, the outage should have been around 1minute.

That said, even with a memory leak it ran for a good couple of weeks without a restart.

Glad to hear all the kinks are getting ironed out! You've brought this pool a long way man!

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August 30, 2011, 11:15:02 PM
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Rebuilt and restarted bitcoind, it had a steady memory leak and was starting to eat into swap and slow responses. That said, the outage should have been around 1minute.

That said, even with a memory leak it ran for a good couple of weeks without a restart.

Glad to hear all the kinks are getting ironed out! You've brought this pool a long way man!
i'm newer then the rest but i know you are just one man. good work and thanks.
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August 30, 2011, 11:21:25 PM
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Hopefully, it will draw others to the pool. I assume most of our current base enjoys lastNshares.

As for overhead, proportional payout is even less overhead than lastNShares (db size is smaller, less range scans). I'm aware that proportional will increase pool hopping, but it won't affect the lastNshares pool as it will be separate. By default, miners will be set to lastNshares.

Additionally, if the overhead is significant, I just scale up the servers.


Oh!  I'd heard that the overhead for proportional was higher and didn't think about it myself; my apologies.  Indeed, thinking about how I would implement PPLNS I see that the database would be larger.  This highlights the value of a correctly weigted proportional system (scoring or whatever it's called) for the best of both worlds.  There will be more connections and disconnections with the proportional system as people hop in and out but I guess this is a minor issue.

Echoing RyNinDaCleM and hmblm1245, thanks for your continued hard work on this pool.
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August 31, 2011, 11:41:34 AM
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It's about time you found a block bossman!!!!!!!

And not only one, but two!
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August 31, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
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It's about time you found a block bossman!!!!!!!

And not only one, but two!

Two with under 1 ghash under 4 hours just goes to show that it does not always matter how much. Its how lucky

Now i would like to find one just so i doesn't seem like i'm leeching all this time Smiley
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August 31, 2011, 03:24:33 PM
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It's about time you found a block bossman!!!!!!!

And not only one, but two!

Two with under 1 ghash under 4 hours just goes to show that it does not always matter how much. Its how lucky

Now i would like to find one just so i doesn't seem like i'm leeching all this time Smiley

You leech!  Cheesy
Your hashes are still helping! Think of it this way; each share you get, changes the order of the shares everybody hashes. If you weren't here, another pool may have ended up with that specific share!
Boy, it makes more sense in my head!  Cheesy



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