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October 03, 2015, 01:29:18 PM |
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21. Bf4 or d4...
Bf4 looks better. If d4 black can play c4 and then take our e4 pawn next move |
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October 03, 2015, 01:49:24 PM |
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21. Bf4 or d4...
Bf4 looks better. If d4 black can play c4 and then take our e4 pawn next move Yep, saw that later... You corrected me faster that I could edit it  |
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October 03, 2015, 09:42:33 PM |
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Bf4 will allow Bd6.
Rc1?
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October 04, 2015, 04:21:36 AM |
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Bf4 will allow Bd6.
But Black would never make such a bad move. 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 (22... Rxd6 loses material to e5) 23. e5 Qd5 (the only way to save both forked pieces) and the f6 knight is forced to retreat next move. |
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October 04, 2015, 04:46:20 AM |
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Bf4 will allow Bd6.
But Black would never make such a bad move. 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 (22... Rxd6 loses material to e5) 23. e5 Qd5 (the only way to save both forked pieces) and the f6 knight is forced to retreat next move. I'm to stupid for this, I can't understand what your tying to say in the bolded. This notation stuff is new to me just from this thread. I'm saying Bf4 will allow Bd6 Now your saying E5 right? Then Black will Bxe5 right? Then if Nxe5 then Qxe5. So e5 would be a stupid move after Bd6 right? |
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October 04, 2015, 05:04:04 AM |
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What about Nf4? That defends the d3 pawn.
You also threaten to play Nxe6 at an appropriate time.
If he tries to drive the pawn away through e5, you can play Ng6
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October 04, 2015, 05:24:45 AM |
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Bf4 will allow Bd6.
But Black would never make such a bad move. 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 (22... Rxd6 loses material to e5) 23. e5 Qd5 (the only way to save both forked pieces) and the f6 knight is forced to retreat next move. I'm to stupid for this, I can't understand what your tying to say in the bolded. This notation stuff is new to me just from this thread. I'm saying Bf4 will allow Bd6 Now your saying E5 right? Then Black will Bxe5 right? Then if Nxe5 then Qxe5. So e5 would be a stupid move after Bd6 right? He is saying 21. Bf4 Bd6 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 23. e5 Qd5 If instead we play e5 on move 22 things are better for black 21. Bf4 Bd6 22. e5 Bxf3 23. Bxf3 Bxe5 or 21. Bf4 Bd6 22. e5 Bxf3 23. exd6 Qb7 |
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October 04, 2015, 05:29:44 AM |
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What about Nf4? That defends the d3 pawn.
You also threaten to play Nxe6 at an appropriate time.
If he tries to drive the pawn away through e5, you can play Ng6
3 votes for Bf4 (Foxpup, xmrpromotions, gotmilk_)
1 vote for Ne1 (dre1982)
1 vote for Nf4 (jjacob)
Nf4 looks okay to me to as an alternative way to defend d3. All 3 moves above actually seem like decent options. I still slightly prefer Bf4 |
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October 04, 2015, 05:37:37 AM |
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Bf4 will allow Bd6.
But Black would never make such a bad move. 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 (22... Rxd6 loses material to e5) 23. e5 Qd5 (the only way to save both forked pieces) and the f6 knight is forced to retreat next move. I'm to stupid for this, I can't understand what your tying to say in the bolded. This notation stuff is new to me just from this thread. I'm saying Bf4 will allow Bd6 Now your saying E5 right? Then Black will Bxe5 right? Then if Nxe5 then Qxe5. So e5 would be a stupid move after Bd6 right? He is saying 21. Bf4 Bd6 22. Bxd6 Qxd6 23. e5 Qd5 Right, that is why I'm saying Bf4 is not a good move. Although I see no reason why we would ever move Bxd6 in response to Bd6 If instead we play e5 on move 22 things are better for black
21. Bf4 Bd6
22. e5 Bxf3
23. Bxf3 Bxe5
That is also my point why Bf4 is a bad move and that he would respond with Bd6. or
21. Bf4 Bd6
22. e5 Bxf3
23. exd6 Qb7
exd6? No then it would be 23. bxf3 Our bishop taking his bishop. We would exchange a knight for a bishop and would come out ahead on that exchange correct? |
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October 04, 2015, 05:39:40 AM |
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What about Nf4? That defends the d3 pawn.
You also threaten to play Nxe6 at an appropriate time.
If he tries to drive the pawn away through e5, you can play Ng6
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1 vote for Nf4 (jjacob)
Nf4 looks okay to me to as an alternative way to defend d3. All 3 moves above actually seem like decent options. I still slightly prefer Bf4 Didn't we just move that piece from f4? I think that's when I lost interest. Gonna sit back again as this is hurting my one braincell thats left.  |
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October 04, 2015, 06:17:15 AM |
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I can't follow what you're saying at all. We play e5 after Black recaptures, forking the knight and recapturing piece. There is only one way for Black to save both pieces, and it significantly worsens his position. Right, that is why I'm saying Bf4 is not a good move. Although I see no reason why we would ever move Bxd6 in response to Bd6 If instead we play e5 on move 22 things are better for black
Um, what about the reason you just quoted? |
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October 04, 2015, 02:39:32 PM |
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4 votes for Bf4 (Foxpup, xmrpromotions, gotmilk_ languagehasmeaning)
1 vote for Ne1 (dre1982)
1 vote for Nf4 (jjacob)
1 vote for Rc1 (Hueristic)
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October 04, 2015, 05:28:41 PM |
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4 votes for Bf4 (Foxpup, xmrpromotions, gotmilk_ languagehasmeaning)
1 vote for Ne1 (dre1982)
1 vote for Nf4 (jjacob)
1 vote for Rc1 (Hueristic)
Your move bitcointalk. You have the white pieces The current position is updated below: 21.Bf4 Qa8  |
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October 04, 2015, 06:25:24 PM |
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Rad1
We could let the pawn unprotected for this moment. I think if we don't do this he could play Nxe4 and then he destroys our position.
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October 04, 2015, 06:31:49 PM |
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Rad1
We could let the pawn unprotected for this moment. I think if we don't do this he could play Nxe4 and then he destroys our position.
I think this is the best of the worst choices. I certainly don't see a better move and it's long past time those rooks get into action. |
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October 04, 2015, 07:13:32 PM |
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Rad1
We could let the pawn unprotected for this moment. I think if we don't do this he could play Nxe4 and then he destroys our position.
The problem I mentioned last move still applies. Rad1 does not stop it: 22.Rad1 Rxd3 23.Rxd3 c4 (forking our queen and rook which will be captured next move) I still vote for 22. Ne5 Rad1 2 votes (Hueristic, dre1982) Ne5 1 vote (xmrpromotions) |
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October 04, 2015, 08:09:49 PM |
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i vote Ne5
i don't like how our bishop is immobile
Ne5 strengths our position on the center of the board (by supporting d3 and e4)
as well as allowing the bishop some mobility. two birds with one stone
we do not need to worry about the rooks just yet
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October 04, 2015, 08:54:00 PM |
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i vote Ne5
i don't like how our bishop is immobile
Ne5 strengths our position on the center of the board (by supporting d3 and e4)
as well as allowing the bishop some mobility. two birds with one stone
we do not need to worry about the rooks just yet
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October 05, 2015, 12:53:58 AM |
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Knight to c3 please
His next move is pawn to c4 to directly threaten our Queen.
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