Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[hd49728]

however Juventus have set a good example all the players have accepted the 30% salary reduction until they return to play, it seems that the league has decided (to be confirmed) that all the remaining matches will be played and the championship will end at half July...

This is not true is one of the possibility but IMHO it can be done cause if they can play they will play EURO cups and not the national championship.

They have a lot of ideas but no one confirmed yet

• No games at all
• All games on summer
• Playoff
• Canceling the Seria A but keep the position for cups
• Watching last year leaderboard

According to https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest, the epidemic in Italy has began to flatten out. It means the peak is already reached or very closely to be reached. With the lockdown expansion for more weeks, Italy will soon to control the epidemic. After that, FIGC can have better conditions to make their decisions for Serie A.

If all rest matches of the season can not be taken place, I think some kind of a mixture between two seasons: this temp positions of this season before postpone, and the last year leaderboard will be mixed together with different weights. 2 weighted points for the current season and 1 weighted point for the last season. Then the total points for each club will be divided by 3 to decide clubs will be qualified for the playoff rounds.

[Juggy777]

People will remember who help them when they needed it and who failed them.
Some football teams, China, Russia, Albania? are helping Italian people and governments with money, medical goods and staff while European Union and European countries aren't giving much help which is shameful!

Germany help Italy to care of some severity cases. I don't know how many severe patients have been cared by Germany, as one of their supports to the nearly collapsed heath system in Lombardy area but their help is much appreciated if we know Germany has still faced with their own pressure during the pandemic in their nation.

Other teams should follow too, even some foods or surgical masks that costs nothing, not even a one month salary of the least paid player, will be much appreciated by everyone...

Kindly help will be always appreciated.
Good news, at first we have some signals for better results from the virus containment in Italy. Accoridng to ISS's updates, the new infected cases in the last 5 days have been in a mild downward trend but we need next 2 weeks to have a more confirmed downward trend. Let's see.
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Infografica_30marzo%20ENG.pdf

The expansive orders till end of April (if will be approved by the President Conte) will help the nation has more effective fight against the virus and this pandemic.

In the meantime, locals have to help the government and themselves by seriously obey lockdown's rules. Just obey rules next 4 weeks, then they can start to think of enjoying lives again.

It is good to know that football clubs across europe are doing their best to support one another during this pandemic,
And also good that countries are sending help to one another across europe and the world.

This is to show that we are one, and we share love throughout the world via sports.
Hope this ends soon enough.

I wasn’t aware that football clubs were contributing money to Italy, but I’m really glad to see that clubs are generously donating funds during this crisis. While I understand that the lockdown is tough for people in Italy but I hope they’ll strictly follow it and defeat coronavirus for good. Also I’m very happy to see that the death rate is coming down in Italy, and now we all should sincerely pray for them as they need our prayers in this difficult time.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/01/italy-extends-lockdown-amid-signs-coronavirus-infection-rate-is-easing

[Raflesia]

I wasn’t aware that football clubs were contributing money to Italy, but I’m really glad to see that clubs are generously donating funds during this crisis. While I understand that the lockdown is tough for people in Italy but I hope they’ll strictly follow it and defeat coronavirus for good. Also I’m very happy to see that the death rate is coming down in Italy, and now we all should sincerely pray for them as they need our prayers in this difficult time.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/01/italy-extends-lockdown-amid-signs-coronavirus-infection-rate-is-easing

It is fitting for a football club to donate some money to fight the corona virus in Italy. If I am a wealthy person, then my heart wants to donate, but what little can I contribute in my area?
Italy does need a lot of money for this corona opponent because the death rate there is so big every day, even though it has begun to reduce, but the level of caution must be present especially in us.
In Italy many clubs have already contributed, meaning that there are still people who are kind enough in times like this and I can only pray that in the near future it will not get worse in Italy.

[hd49728]

According to the ISS's reports, the new infected cases in Italy has kept decreasing. With the expansion of previous lockdown till the mid of April (at least), I do see lights for the battle agains the virus in Italy. After mid of April, I don't know the lockdown will be untied a little bit but still be remained or not but it seems the battle will have to keep going, a few months.

Stay positively about the battle, Italy has won their first phase, and their health facilities have become under a bit less pressure. It's good to provide better health care for patients who needs ICUs. As far as I know, there are some help among European nations to care severe patients, not much but there are help each other.

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Infografica_3aprile%20ENG.pdf

[coinlocket$]

According to https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest, the epidemic in Italy has began to flatten out. It means the peak is already reached or very closely to be reached. With the lockdown expansion for more weeks, Italy will soon to control the epidemic. After that, FIGC can have better conditions to make their decisions for Serie A.

According to exprerts the peak has been not reached yet and it will be around 10 April if the things continues on this way.

[barbara44]

According to https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest, the epidemic in Italy has began to flatten out. It means the peak is already reached or very closely to be reached. With the lockdown expansion for more weeks, Italy will soon to control the epidemic. After that, FIGC can have better conditions to make their decisions for Serie A.

According to exprerts the peak has been not reached yet and it will be around 10 April if the things continues on this way.

Yeah, that is why he said "close to reaching", it looks like the peak is around the corner now and in a week or so we will probably start to fall a bit and get better, in two weeks or so we will see significant changes to the numbers since this pandemic was exponential but the healing process is like that as well, more people who gets it and recovers means there are less people who will get it as well.

In a month we will probably see life going semi-normal, not exactly like how it used to be of course because this left a scar in our souls but we will see a little bit less rules about going outside and so forth during early may (probably). I still think Serie A is in big trouble though, there are still a decent number of games left and we are talking about all teams, so total of games is a lot and it will be during summer, so I don't know if they can comeback that late.

[hd49728]

Yeah, that is why he said "close to reaching", it looks like the peak is around the corner now and in a week or so we will probably start to fall a bit and get better, in two weeks or so we will see significant changes to the numbers since this pandemic was exponential but the healing process is like that as well, more people who gets it and recovers means there are less people who will get it as well.

In a month we will probably see life going semi-normal, not exactly like how it used to be of course because this left a scar in our souls but we will see a little bit less rules about going outside and so forth during early may (probably). I still think Serie A is in big trouble though, there are still a decent number of games left and we are talking about all teams, so total of games is a lot and it will be during summer, so I don't know if they can comeback that late.

The factor R0 has gradually decreased to about 1, that is good. It is good for now, after some terrible weeks, then if things will be improved more, we will have R0 factor drop to below 1, and slowly reach 0. See the temporal variation in transmission during the COVID-19 outbreak in Italy and remember to choose charts for Italy.

From the source, you can get the table.

Country/Region    Cases with date of onset on the day of report generation    Expected change in daily cases    Effective reproduction no.    Doubling time (days)
Lombardia    971 – 3968    Increasing    1.1 – 1.7    6.1 – Cases decreasing
Emilia Romagna    291 – 1206    Increasing    1.3 – 2.1    4.1 – Cases decreasing
Piemonte    274 – 1094    Increasing    1.5 – 3.1    2.3 – 9.5
Veneto    123 – 481    Increasing    1.1 – 1.8    5.6 – Cases decreasing
Campania    73 – 394    Increasing    1.5 – 2.9    2.8 – 27
Liguria    68 – 347    Increasing    1.2 – 2.3    4 – Cases decreasing
Marche    73 – 316    Increasing    1.1 – 1.8    5.7 – Cases decreasing
Friuli Venezia Giulia    50 – 286    Increasing    1.3 – 2.4    2.6 – Cases decreasing
Toscana    60 – 284    Increasing    1.2 – 2.3    3.3 – Cases decreasing
Trentino-Alto Adige    47 – 271    Increasing    1.1 – 2.1    2.4 – Cases decreasing
Abruzzo    47 – 253    Increasing    1.6 – 3.5    2.2 – 7.2
Puglia    36 – 194    Increasing    1.4 – 2.8    1.9 – Cases decreasing
Lazio    40 – 191    Increasing    1.2 – 2.2    3.4 – Cases decreasing
Umbria    29 – 181    Increasing    1.5 – 3.3    2 – 76
Sardegna    25 – 158    Increasing    1.6 – 4    1.6 – Cases decreasing
P.A. Trento    23 – 141    Increasing    1 – 2    2.6 – Cases decreasing
P.A. Bolzano    18 – 134    Increasing    1.2 – 2.6    2.7 – Cases decreasing
Sicilia    19 – 126    Increasing    1.3 – 2.4    3.2 – 27
Valle d’Aosta    16 – 109    Increasing    1.5 – 4    2.1 – Cases decreasing
Calabria    12 – 92    Increasing    1.3 – 3    2.1 – 46
Molise    5 – 51    Increasing    1.9 – 7    0.19 – Cases decreasing
Basilicata    2 – 34    Increasing    1.6 – 5.3    0.15 – Cases decreasing

[Naida_BR]

Did you read about the Dybala case?
Initially, he was found positive... Then he was cured and after that he made a test again and was found positive again... All this, in just one month... COVID-19 seems to be an unbeatable enemy...

[hd49728]

Did you read about the Dybala case?
Initially, he was found positive... Then he was cured and after that he made a test again and was found positive again... All this, in just one month... COVID-19 seems to be an unbeatable enemy...

Really? If his condition did not change worse after 2 weeks, he would recovered well. Furthermore, there are odds for false negative result from the test. I don't know which type of test is used in Italy but generally, there are odds for false positive and false negative results.

I did not see any official announcements or news on Juventus' site: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/

[snipie]

Did you read about the Dybala case?
Initially, he was found positive... Then he was cured and after that he made a test again and was found positive again... All this, in just one month... COVID-19 seems to be an unbeatable enemy...

Really? If his condition did not change worse after 2 weeks, he would recovered well. Furthermore, there are odds for false negative result from the test. I don't know which type of test is used in Italy but generally, there are odds for false positive and false negative results.

I did not see any official announcements or news on Juventus' site: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/

I read it also. False positive or negative for both him and his gf is a little bit hard to believe. I mean if the result show just 1 positive i may said so.
Other reports in the world showed that up to 14% of people could be reinfected again. He is just so unlucky!

[coinlocket$]

Really? If his condition did not change worse after 2 weeks, he would recovered well. Furthermore, there are odds for false negative result from the test. I don't know which type of test is used in Italy but generally, there are odds for false positive and false negative results.

I did not see any official announcements or news on Juventus' site: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/

Dybala as been found positive at the 1st test, they did a second one and he is still positive.
The virus will have not the same duration of infection and gravity in different people, someone will have it and have no symptoms at all and someone else will die with it.

Also, Matuidi has been positive for 2 tests (2 weeks delay) and he is still in a new 14 days quarantine.

[Naida_BR]

Did you read about the Dybala case?
Initially, he was found positive... Then he was cured and after that he made a test again and was found positive again... All this, in just one month... COVID-19 seems to be an unbeatable enemy...

Really? If his condition did not change worse after 2 weeks, he would recovered well. Furthermore, there are odds for false negative result from the test. I don't know which type of test is used in Italy but generally, there are odds for false positive and false negative results.

I did not see any official announcements or news on Juventus' site: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/

Here is the link that reports that: https://sportsfinding.com/dybala-and-his-girlfriend-again-with-covid-19/28686/

I don't know if this is something legit or fake news. I think that Dybala didn't reject those rumors as well.
I hope this will not harm his health as he initially said that COVID-19 left him struggling for breath when he was infected in the first time.

[Pmalek]

The media isn't reporting the news about Dybala's tests properly. Dybala was never cured. His 1st test showed that he was positive on COVID-19 while he was in quarantine. He felt bad for a few days and was out of breath and then he started to recover. He then underwent a 2nd test and he was still positive on COVID-19. He never recovered in the sense that he was tested negative. He just felt better and became asymptomatic but not cured.

[hd49728]

The media isn't reporting the news about Dybala's tests properly. Dybala was never cured. His 1st test showed that he was positive on COVID-19 while he was in quarantine. He felt bad for a few days and was out of breath and then he started to recover. He then underwent a 2nd test and he was still positive on COVID-19. He never recovered in the sense that he was tested negative. He just felt better and became asymptomatic but not cured.

Yes, your explanation makes sense. Dybala has never received a confirmation of fully recover from a result of negative test. He has slowly recovered from his first infection. I don't believe about the news because the Juventus site has not yet mentioned about it. If Dybala recovered and then infected again, the club should make an official announcement about it. Dybala is one of their good players.

[Raflesia]

The media isn't reporting the news about Dybala's tests properly. Dybala was never cured. His 1st test showed that he was positive on COVID-19 while he was in quarantine. He felt bad for a few days and was out of breath and then he started to recover. He then underwent a 2nd test and he was still positive on COVID-19. He never recovered in the sense that he was tested negative. He just felt better and became asymptomatic but not cured.

Yes, your explanation makes sense. Dybala has never received a confirmation of fully recover from a result of negative test. He has slowly recovered from his first infection. I don't believe about the news because the Juventus site has not yet mentioned about it. If Dybala recovered and then infected again, the club should make an official announcement about it. Dybala is one of their good players.

Didn't Dybala quarantine itself after being stated positive by Covid-19? then some media concluded that he had recovered and was infected again. How was this inaccurate news? What were we seeing about Dybala?
I also have not seen the statement from Juventus about this and it is still possible to quarantine the process so there is no certainty whether or not healed completely.
Hope all things get better.

[DeathAngel]

Italy has reached it’s peak for new cases daily & started to drop now. Hopefully in a week or two we’ll get confirmation that Serie A can start again at some point (probably behind closed doors).

[Theb]

Italy has reached it’s peak for new cases daily & started to drop now. Hopefully in a week or two we’ll get confirmation that Serie A can start again at some point (probably behind closed doors).

With 3,599 new cases today and 636 new deaths? I don't think so, the numbers might have decreased a bit but that is not a sign that the infection is slowing down in Italy. The most realistic approach is to see the number of infection to go down to 0 infections daily to see if it will be safe for them to resume the season or not. It won't be safe for the players to play and it won't be safe for the matches to be played if they know that there are still a lot of people getting infected in their country. I don't even care about this season anymore what's more important is the players are safe and not of them will catch the infection, it's better to sacrifice the season now then risk it all just for the league to resume.

[wozzek23]

Honestly as long as he is feeling better that is a big improvement, think about a virus that can make one of the most athletic and talented professional football players go out of breath so easily and realize how dangerous this virus actually is.

I mean if a 20's something footballers who normally train probably every single day of their lives can be out of breath because of it, it is not a wonder why people who are over 60 can end up dying, these people do not have the same immune system nor have the same body structure to face it.

I doubt he could recover and get infected again, as far as all the tests we know and have in our hands it looks like you can't get it again all that easily, and even if you do your body has enough defense mechanism that you will beat it like common flu at worst possibility.

[OcTradism]

Italy has reached it’s peak for new cases daily & started to drop now. Hopefully in a week or two we’ll get confirmation that Serie A can start again at some point (probably behind closed doors).

I don't think decision on Serie A matches will be made next one or two weeks. The lockdown in Italy has not yet been confirmed with its end day. In contrast, I see potential to have expansion of the lockdown, maybe till the end of April. After the end of April, it takes time for social activities in Italy very slowly to recover and some weeks after we might see decision and announcement from FIGC. All of these will not be seen too soon.

The health system and society in Italy have been damaged seriously by the COVID-19 and all type of recoveries take more time than expected.

[Leviathan.007]

To be honest, I believe since the current station of the outbreak the league won't be able to finish.
However, according to the recent news Christiano Ronaldo, Gianluigi Buffon and Leonardo Bonucci already accepted to a cut off a part of their their salaries. Many other players will follow them next weeks of curse. and Juventus team itself donated a huge amount of money to the covid-19.