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August 23, 2021, 11:21:09 PM
Last edit: August 24, 2021, 12:32:11 AM by AndySt
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Juventus shocked the world by losing two points against Udinese today. They couldn't prevent a comeback from 2-0 to 2-2. Although they were a way more powerful team, they just screwed things up in the second half. Ronaldo's last minute goal was cancelled by VAR because of an offside and they had no choice rather than making do with one point here.
There are still rumours about Ronaldo that he might leave in this transfer window. But I don't think such transfer will happen in the remaining days.
I also have doubts that Ronaldo left Juventus.
But this first game was very strange, they tie with a much inferior team, Ronaldo starts on the bench. I don't understand what they want, they have the best player in the world and then they just seem to forget he's there.
Ronaldo could be gone, I am not sure if there is any logical argument over keeping him in the bench, either dude wants out or Juventus just wants to find a suitor for him and making him available and known to the whole world by putting him in the bench.
It is obvious that his time at Juventus at an end if he is at the bench when the game starts. Not like he is some sort of player that needs recouping neither because that is basically the greatest athlete that takes care of his body as well, he is always 100% ready to play whenever he wants to, hell his videos of him telling his kids not to eat anything bad has been watched millions of times now. So long story short he was ready to play but didn't play, whoever requested it team or him, doesn't matter because that is a proof that he is not happy at the club and he will be gone soon whenever some other team gets him, it is all on other teams now to get him.
If the best player in the world is sitting on your bench and he is not injured, then there are objective reasons for this Wink Let's not forget that a similar story is happening now with another best player in the world, but only in France Grin Ronaldo's obvious problem is that he can't go anywhere. Although the absolute majority of clubs in the world would like to cooperate with him with pleasure, but the high salary and tournament ambitions of Ronaldo himself will not allow this to come true. Ronaldo feels his age and the fact that his playing characteristics decrease with time, so it is understandable that he wants to make the most of his career and play at the club with the highest ambitions.
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August 24, 2021, 04:28:20 AM
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I never thought that a team like Juventus could be so degraded. I lost my bet money. Juventus has performed very poorly. Udinese weak team. Yet the performance they have shown against Juventus is amazing. Udinese players have attacked more than Juventus. I didn't think Juventus would show such a poor performance in the first match.
Everything can happen in football, Dybala playing well in the first half, I will think the same as you, money in my hand. but what happened in the second half is a dumb thing. Szczesny, I don't know what he's thinking, his blunder makes my money lost either and maybe I want to blame VAR too which make Ronaldo's goal disallowed on injured time.
It was Juventus who lead the 1st half with a 2-0 score. Ronaldo then came on and ended up 2-2 with Udinese. The 2nd half was quite dramatic, but the yellow card and offside were the key factors in the outcome. VAR disallows winning goal. He just scored an offside goal, don't blame VAR! Could they have won the match if Ronaldo remained on the bench? Would you agree?
Too much speculation about Ronaldo, why he isn't a starter, the rumors said he wants not to be a starter but another rumor said is just a tactic and strategy from Allegri, I don't know which one is true. but, from this situation, we all know something happens with Ronaldo, this is not as usual, In my opinion, possible there is a conflict between player and coach.

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August 24, 2021, 09:42:11 AM
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Inter, despite the financial difficulties, started the season very well with an expressive victory, placing right in the first place in the table. I hope they continue to do a good job.

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August 24, 2021, 10:10:53 AM
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Milan won too, every big team won his game except Juventus  Embarrassed.

Not a great start. Always said Donnarumma was a must for Juventus.
I am not sure why Juventus did not make a bit for Donnarumma. The leave of Donna is similar to Veratti to PSG years ago. Veratti has no single match in Serie A in his career. He is a very rare case for Italian players.

If Juventus can have Donnarumma, it is good for them, Serie A and Italy national team as well.

The draw of Juventus may not seem very important as the first week matches are already played. However , if they miss the Championship by one or two points at the end of the season, the importance of this first week's draw becomes even more important. Juve shouldn't have lost points in a week their opponents won. Anyway, it was the first matches of the league. They will surely make their fans watch good matches.
Only one draw is not a big matter. Juventus will come back and how the drama of Ronaldo ends will affect their performance generally. He is a goal resource for Juventus, at least in Serie A.

Ronaldo, Dybala and Chiesa will be most important players for Juventus in Serie A 2021 - 2022. Especially Chiesa will have bigger role in the team after the very successful Euro 2020.

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August 24, 2021, 10:16:59 AM
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These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.
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August 24, 2021, 10:26:18 AM
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Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.

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August 24, 2021, 11:56:35 AM
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These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.
24M is very cheap price for Ronaldo because he can provide more than 20 to 30 goals a season. He is old but can score more goals than many younger strikers who have more expensive price. However, problem will mainly come from his salary. In pandemic chaotic, clubs will not readily to pay too high salary for new players. And as said, Ronaldo is old.

Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.
A first match in a season is always difficult because it is a first match after long vacation in summer. Players need to be warmed up with real matches to get their best performance. Anyway, AC Milan got three points and they can aim to the next matches.

I think they can not rely too much on Ibrahimovic who is at the very end seasons in his career. At his age, many players would retire already.
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I liked watching new Roma with Jose Mourinho. They had a tough match against Fiorentina. It was a difficult start for Mourinho but he managed to handle it perfectly. But I must add that the red card Fiorentina got in the 17th minute changed the fate of the match also. Tammy Abraham had a great start by making 2 assists. And I appreciated Veretout's performance also (2 goals). They won 3-1 and their next opponent is Salernitana.

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August 24, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
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24M is very cheap price for Ronaldo because he can provide more than 20 to 30 goals a season. He is old but can score more goals than many younger strikers who have more expensive price. However, problem will mainly come from his salary. In pandemic chaotic, clubs will not readily to pay too high salary for new players. And as said, Ronaldo is old.


25m ish is the price they need to be even for the capital loss and the financial fair play since you know no one is like PSG and they can violate the FFP.

Anyway, I don't think he will go anywhere. The exultation for the goal (invalidated later) on Saturday speak for itself.

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August 24, 2021, 03:03:59 PM
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I just read that Chievo has officially disbanded. According to the history that I know Chievo have competed in Serie A, before being relegated to Serie B. They are quite good and in the masses they often occupy the middle of the temporary ranking list. But I just heard that this year, to be precise in July Chievo was kicked out of the Serie B. The problem is financial problems and tax arrears, they can't prove their obligations. They've tried to find investors and start from Series D, but it seems that it failed.

Source: https://www.goal.com

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After seeing Roma's great performance against Fiorentina, I started thinking about what position they will finish the season at. I know that it is early to say something about it but their effort was promising to me. Tammy Abraham also seemed like he adapted to the team very quickly. If Mourinho continues to have a good game plan, they can finish the league in top 4 and qualify for the CL I believe.
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August 24, 2021, 03:41:41 PM
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These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.

If Ronaldo is consistent with his words, he will not leave Juventus to join Man City. however, Ronaldo still has respect for United, and he has said that he will not play for his former club's rivals. Indeed, only PSG have the potential to sign Ronaldo, but there is Messi there who is a personal rival for him. Is it possible that he will play together? It doesn't seem possible either. If MU make another contact with him, maybe Ronaldo can back to EPL again wit the red devil.

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August 24, 2021, 03:53:07 PM
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Among the top teams I'm only disappointed with Juventus. Indeed, Juventus play away but I don't think it will stop Juventus from getting full points in the opening match. We can see other top teams playing away like Atalanta, Lazio and Milan, they have the same tough opponents as well but they can win and get full points. I also realize this is only the beginning, but if you look at the Juventus game when Ronaldo scored in the last minute, you can see how they were expressed and happy but in the end the goal was disallowed. It was an overexpression and happiness in my opinion whereas it was only a meaningful early game, they put all their effort into it but still didn't get the win. That way, I think it will be a big question mark for Allegri, whether Allegri can still bring Juventus to win the title or not this season.

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August 24, 2021, 03:59:23 PM
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I liked watching new Roma with Jose Mourinho. They had a tough match against Fiorentina. It was a difficult start for Mourinho but he managed to handle it perfectly. But I must add that the red card Fiorentina got in the 17th minute changed the fate of the match also. Tammy Abraham had a great start by making 2 assists. And I appreciated Veretout's performance also (2 goals). They won 3-1 and their next opponent is Salernitana.
Roma are always good with attacking and their problems are from defense system. Mourinho is an expert on defense and he might help Roma having good improvement in defense ability. Vertout scored two goals in the match and it is not what he usually does. It's a memorable match for Vertout.

After seeing Roma's great performance against Fiorentina, I started thinking about what position they will finish the season at. I know that it is early to say something about it but their effort was promising to me. Tammy Abraham also seemed like he adapted to the team very quickly. If Mourinho continues to have a good game plan, they can finish the league in top 4 and qualify for the CL I believe.
It's too early to say about where Roma will end in this season. Tammy shows some good connections with his mates and looks like Roma has a good transfer with Tammy. If he continues like this, Roma will not only have a striker with goal scoring ability but with good general contributions and connections with team mate.
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August 24, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
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Juventus got a really surprising result vs Udinese on the opening week. But the blame was on their goalkeeper of course. Because he made incredibly simple mistakes which helped Udinese come to life. Ronaldo's goal was cancelled and it was a close call.

This week, they will want to compensate this simple point loss. And their opponent is Empoli. The match is 4 days later. I think that Juventus will tear them apart.

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August 24, 2021, 06:25:51 PM
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Too much speculation about Ronaldo, why he isn't a starter, the rumors said he wants not to be a starter but another rumor said is just a tactic and strategy from Allegri, I don't know which one is true. but, from this situation, we all know something happens with Ronaldo, this is not as usual, In my opinion, possible there is a conflict between player and coach.
I highly doubt that Ronaldo ever be okay with being on the bench, this is Ronaldo we are talking about and he cares about that kind of thing a lot. This must have made him feel like he is not good enough to be in the starting eleven and that is one of the most important parts, I mean we are talking about something that is demanding for a player for his caliber and that is a very important factor.

Ronaldo could go to City or PSG and can still play every single game because he is THAT good and we all know it, so there is no strategy that could see him coming off bench and provide more to the team instead being on the pitch for 90 minutes which we all know he can do nearly every single game.

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Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.
A first match in a season is always difficult because it is a first match after long vacation in summer. Players need to be warmed up with real matches to get their best performance. Anyway, AC Milan got three points and they can aim to the next matches.

I think they can not rely too much on Ibrahimovic who is at the very end seasons in his career. At his age, many players would retire already.

Yeah, at that age there are not many players who can still choose to continue to play. But Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a very special player. Who knows at what age he will decide to retire. But I agree that Milan shouldn't be depending on Zlatan only. They can't go on like this forever in the end. Whatever the team are, the most important thing is teamplay. As long as the teamplay is more than OK, that team can achieve successes even without having their best player.

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Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.
A first match in a season is always difficult because it is a first match after long vacation in summer. Players need to be warmed up with real matches to get their best performance. Anyway, AC Milan got three points and they can aim to the next matches.
I think they can not rely too much on Ibrahimovic who is at the very end seasons in his career. At his age, many players would retire already.
Yeah, at that age there are not many players who can still choose to continue to play. But Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a very special player. Who knows at what age he will decide to retire. But I agree that Milan shouldn't be depending on Zlatan only. They can't go on like this forever in the end. Whatever the team are, the most important thing is teamplay. As long as the teamplay is more than OK, that team can achieve successes even without having their best player.

Ibra is a great player. It is unbelievable that he is performing at this age. I have seen many athletes feel old at this age. But Ibra is still doing great. However, he can never be considered the main striker of the team. The older he gets, He is more likely to be injured. So his replacement is definitely needed.

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Everything can happen in football, Dybala playing well in the first half, I will think the same as you, money in my hand. but what happened in the second half is a dumb thing. Szczesny, I don't know what he's thinking, his blunder makes my money lost either and maybe I want to blame VAR too which make Ronaldo's goal disallowed on injured time.

Even though I was very enthusiastic about the goal. But ah now that I hate a bit, football technology. Yes, when viewed from two sides, it is profitable and detrimental, but in the end it doesn't matter. Of course not just you but all the fans, after such a phenomenal celebration and the emotional requirement of the goal being cancelled. It's sad, yes there will still be many matches, of course Juve must immediately improve for the next match.
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August 24, 2021, 07:54:09 PM
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After obliterating Genoa 4-0, the next opponent of Inter is Verona. And I would like to add that it is an away match. Verona made Sassuolo some difficulties in their first match of the season. But Sassuolo still managed to win it 3-2. And when it comes to the head-to-head matches, I see that Inter are pretty dominant against them. In their last match, Inter beat them 2-1 here. There is nothing holding Inter back from winning here again. And I believe that they will manage to do so.

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