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December 28, 2021, 12:00:45 PM
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One thing for sure though,,, with the old stars now fading there is much more wider roads for the new stars to take their place,,, this is in every league we can witness now Smiley
I disagree with it completely, but like you said it has been talked about a million times. I believe it is managers duty to put everyone equally and in a role, it doesn't matter if you have Ronaldo or Messi or anyone else, if they play a role that they suppose to play then they will be good, if you focus everything on them in the strategy then you are going to bad.

I think there is nothing wrong with having a focal point in the team,,, if the team needs to play a certain style or identity and there are good focal points to build a squad around then yes because that guy makes the team and makes it stronger as a whole

What happens with Ronaldo is completely different,,, he is a one man strategy and the rest of the team has to compensate to achieve his goals,,, and I mean literally his goals Smiley

Moise Kean belongs to a new generation with Mbappe, Haaland, Saka and Vinicius. Among them, Mbappe and Haaland are the best as we see so far.

Mbappe and Haaland the top as strikers yes but I also ask if we are always ignoring a new generation's goalkeepers and CBs too,,, something Italian football used to always prioritize Smiley

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December 28, 2021, 02:53:16 PM
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Ronaldo's leaving Juventus really affected the team in a bad way. He was scoring so many goals and was a really big help in their attacking line. Now, Juventus are having bigger problems on scoring comfortably. However, they are still doing good lately. They have had a nice unbeaten streak for many weeks and this carried them to the 5th place in the standings. And we should keep something in mind also that Juventus still ended the season at the 4th place last season despite having Ronaldo. Now, they are not in a much different situation. And this shows that Juventus can still play like themselves without Ronaldo also. They were already dominating the Serie A before Ronaldo joined the team in the end.
For me Ronaldo's departure from Juventus did not have any impact and even, when Ronaldo arrived at that time I didn't think Juventus was better off with Ronaldo. Because after all, Juventus before without Ronaldo, in fact Juventus can be the holder of the Serie A title for several seasons in a row. Also, when Ronaldo left the reality was that other Juventus goalscorers like Dybala kept getting injured, so I don't see Ronaldo having a positive or negative impact on Juventus because basically Juventus are a big team.

Actually the arrival of ronaldo to juventus had a strong impact on the club's income, and ronaldo's appeal made juventus one of the clubs that at that time could make a lot of money from sponsorships and jersey sales, but in fact the arrival of ronaldo did not have a significant effect on juventus performance in his game, even Juventus actually brought in Ronaldo to strengthen them in competing in the Champions League, but the fact is that during Ronaldo time at Juventus, Juventus failed to reach the quarter-finals, but I think Ronaldo has given his best during his time as a Juventus player by scoring 101 goals and 22 assists in the all his appearances for Juventus.
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December 28, 2021, 04:20:36 PM
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Ronaldo's leaving Juventus really affected the team in a bad way. He was scoring so many goals and was a really big help in their attacking line. Now, Juventus are having bigger problems on scoring comfortably. However, they are still doing good lately. They have had a nice unbeaten streak for many weeks and this carried them to the 5th place in the standings. And we should keep something in mind also that Juventus still ended the season at the 4th place last season despite having Ronaldo. Now, they are not in a much different situation. And this shows that Juventus can still play like themselves without Ronaldo also. They were already dominating the Serie A before Ronaldo joined the team in the end.
For me Ronaldo's departure from Juventus did not have any impact and even, when Ronaldo arrived at that time I didn't think Juventus was better off with Ronaldo. Because after all, Juventus before without Ronaldo, in fact Juventus can be the holder of the Serie A title for several seasons in a row. Also, when Ronaldo left the reality was that other Juventus goalscorers like Dybala kept getting injured, so I don't see Ronaldo having a positive or negative impact on Juventus because basically Juventus are a big team.

Ronaldo arrival did not really have a significant impact on Juventus for the last 3 years, and even Ronaldo has actually failed to bring Juventus to be able to get a trophy in the Champions League, it's true as you said, so far Juventus have been able to show a pretty good performance in the league and champions league before the arrival of ronaldo, but when ronaldo arrived, juventus had difficulty reaching the final of the champions league so far, the poor performance of juventus at the beginning of last season could be said to be due to the rearrangement of the formation by Allegri, as long as ronaldo was present, Allegri applied a 4-3 formation -3 due to adapting Juventus' style of play by following Ronaldo's style and role, but now Allegri is more likely to apply a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 formation after losing Ronaldo, the effect of not finding the right formation at that time by Allegri made Juventus' performance got worse at the start of the season and now it's juventus began to rise because they have adapted to their new formation.

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December 28, 2021, 05:14:08 PM
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Ronaldo arrival did not really have a significant impact on Juventus for the last 3 years, and even Ronaldo has actually failed to bring Juventus to be able to get a trophy in the Champions League, it's true as you said, so far Juventus have been able to show a pretty good performance in the league and champions league before the arrival of ronaldo
It's not true.

Ronaldo has his own issues because he joined Juventus when he was no longer young but to be fair, he still did his job very good by scoring lots of goals for Juventus. If you can find any player in Juventus score more goals in one season than Ronaldo in a few seasons before and after his appearance in Turin, tell me please.

Then Juventus have their issues too that are showing even in this season. Their squad are ageing and it seems their peak is with Max before the participation of Ronaldo. After Max, Juventus did not have good stability in coach position and it is harmful for their general performance. Ronaldo was affected by it as well.

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December 28, 2021, 05:30:35 PM
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It looks like Juventus can really get themselves out of a bad situation in the Serie A this season. After starting to get very satisfying results on the last weeks, they have climbed to the 5th place. And there is not a big point gap with especially the 3rd and 4th-placed teams in the standings now. Besides, Juventus have a home match against Napoli next time. This is a really big one for Juventus and we will see how they are willing to end in top 4.

This take-off happened due to the unevenness of the calendar - Juventus mostly had weak opponents, while it still did not take 100% of the points. Juventus' prospects will be clear towards the end of February when many of the big games in Serie A are played and the Champions League 1/8 finals will take place.

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December 28, 2021, 06:28:11 PM
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It looks like Juventus can really get themselves out of a bad situation in the Serie A this season. After starting to get very satisfying results on the last weeks, they have climbed to the 5th place. And there is not a big point gap with especially the 3rd and 4th-placed teams in the standings now. Besides, Juventus have a home match against Napoli next time. This is a really big one for Juventus and we will see how they are willing to end in top 4.

This take-off happened due to the unevenness of the calendar - Juventus mostly had weak opponents, while it still did not take 100% of the points. Juventus' prospects will be clear towards the end of February when many of the big games in Serie A are played and the Champions League 1/8 finals will take place.
12 points behind leaders Inter is a lot, but nothing is impossible. They do miss Lukaku at Inter, but that doesn't seem to bother them so far. If Juventus are in form, they can beat anyone. In any case, they must ensure that they secure Champions League football for next season. They sill want to go for the title in the league, but that will be a tough task. Also depends on how the numbers 2, 3 and 4 are doing, they are also ahead of Juventus. Maybe they will focus on the Champions League now.

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December 28, 2021, 06:28:39 PM
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What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.
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December 28, 2021, 06:46:38 PM
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What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

Napoli have been one of the greatest teams of the season. They made a great start to the season actually. They had a great winning streak until some point and led the standings for a long time. But interestingly, they started a very unsatisfying form. And this caused them to go down to the third place. They lost points many times in easy matches. They are having a big problem these days and I wonder what they will do against Juventus in the next match.
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What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

I'm sure they will remain in the top 3 of the Serie A table after the next 10 games. From the next 10 Serie A matches, they will face 4 very strong teams, including Juventus, Inter Milan, Lazio and AC Milan.

Not only maintaining their current position, they also have the opportunity to catch up with them from 1st and 2nd place in the current Serie A standings, as they will face AC Milan and Inter Milan.

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December 28, 2021, 08:07:06 PM
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What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

Napoli are definitely one of the solid teams of the Serie A. I was really hopeful about them after seeing their start to the season. However, they started making big mistakes in simple games for themselves. The thing that they need to focus on is to improve their performance in offense a lot. And they shouldn't underestimate any of their opponents. Otherwise, they would continue to make simple loss of points like they did against Spezia.

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December 28, 2021, 08:14:25 PM
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I'm sure they will remain in the top 3 of the Serie A table after the next 10 games. From the next 10 Serie A matches, they will face 4 very strong teams, including Juventus, Inter Milan, Lazio and AC Milan.

Not only maintaining their current position, they also have the opportunity to catch up with them from 1st and 2nd place in the current Serie A standings, as they will face AC Milan and Inter Milan.
After their very poor result in last few matches I was also feeling they will lose their position, and surely they will drop from top 4 teams, but their fight back against AC Milan is completely change things in their favor now most chances they will do much better in this season. They need few injured players into squad back which can increase their quality for remaining season.

Now after break their first test is against Juventus which is recently doing very good, so they have to do some better against them if they want to stay at top with chance of catching their rivals Inter and AC Milan for this year's title race. This year we will have one of the toughest fight for next year's UEFA Champions League spot because with current form Atlanta and Juventus have to done very good for remaining spot.

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December 28, 2021, 08:25:35 PM
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Napoli should be able to end the season at a good place in the standings. Despite their bad form recently, they still deserve to end at one of the top four places and qualify for the Champions League groups. They just need to stand up and fight with all they've got. And they have a really tough fixture ahead against Juventus away. Juventus have been in a great shape for some weeks. Napoli will have a hard time in this game but it is not impossible to get a win for them.
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December 28, 2021, 09:12:40 PM
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I'm sure they will remain in the top 3 of the Serie A table after the next 10 games. From the next 10 Serie A matches, they will face 4 very strong teams, including Juventus, Inter Milan, Lazio and AC Milan.

Not only maintaining their current position, they also have the opportunity to catch up with them from 1st and 2nd place in the current Serie A standings, as they will face AC Milan and Inter Milan.
Napoli and Atalanta are very unstable teams, but this season Napoli is performing much better than it was before. It would be more accurate to say Napoli was better at the beginning of the season, because there was a streak of unsuccessful matches in which Napoli lost too many points. I do not think that they will be able to rectify the situation, because the crisis in the team has not yet passed. We will be able to see what the team is capable of in the match against Juventus.

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December 28, 2021, 09:24:29 PM
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Napoli and Atalanta are very unstable teams, but this season Napoli is performing much better than it was before. It would be more accurate to say Napoli was better at the beginning of the season, because there was a streak of unsuccessful matches in which Napoli lost too many points. I do not think that they will be able to rectify the situation, because the crisis in the team has not yet passed. We will be able to see what the team is capable of in the match against Juventus.
With current form and history of matches between these two teams Juventus is clearly favorite for winning this match and have some good for their touching into top 4 spots because recently Napoli is giving too many points against very low rank teams and their injuries list is also very big which is the biggest problem for them in remaining season. They have some hopes for staying here, but it needs some good form and good news about their good players, those are out with injuries for last few weeks.

If they are able to beat Juventus in this match then surely they are having again very good time for challenging leaders Inter for this year's title and having good chance for better results against Barcelona into Europa Cup match after few weeks.

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I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

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December 28, 2021, 09:33:42 PM
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Napoli should be able to end the season at a good place in the standings. Despite their bad form recently, they still deserve to end at one of the top four places and qualify for the Champions League groups. They just need to stand up and fight with all they've got. And they have a really tough fixture ahead against Juventus away. Juventus have been in a great shape for some weeks. Napoli will have a hard time in this game but it is not impossible to get a win for them.

Only one win in last five games is surely concerning but luckily help come from half time of the season. I'm sure they will pick themselves up and get good results in second half of the season. The most positive thing about Napoli is that they beat their direct opponents. You talk like they are out of top four, they are still one of the biggest contenders of championship. There is only seven points difference with Inter. Inter started a win streak after they beat Napoli. Napoli started the season with a win streak. They have very similar form, just in different times.
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December 28, 2021, 09:44:24 PM
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It looks like Juventus can really get themselves out of a bad situation in the Serie A this season. After starting to get very satisfying results on the last weeks, they have climbed to the 5th place. And there is not a big point gap with especially the 3rd and 4th-placed teams in the standings now. Besides, Juventus have a home match against Napoli next time. This is a really big one for Juventus and we will see how they are willing to end in top 4.
This take-off happened due to the unevenness of the calendar - Juventus mostly had weak opponents, while it still did not take 100% of the points. Juventus' prospects will be clear towards the end of February when many of the big games in Serie A are played and the Champions League 1/8 finals will take place.
It is not really about facing easier opponents, because everyone plays with each other twice and that's the way league works, sure sometimes you get weak opponents back to back and that gives you a good momentum but that doesn't change the fact that everyone plays the same teams twice.

Juventus is doing "better", they are not suddenly great or even good but they are at least on a "decent" level right now which is all people asked for. I get that they may not become champions this year, but going to champions league at the very lowest success is good enough for fans. I am not Italian nor support any Italian teams but I would rather see Juventus then some other team.

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December 28, 2021, 10:17:24 PM
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What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

They will lose 3-4 players for the Copa Africa in January but I'm sure knowing their president they will find something to postpone games as first the one with Juventus.

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Napoli should be able to end the season at a good place in the standings. Despite their bad form recently, they still deserve to end at one of the top four places and qualify for the Champions League groups. They just need to stand up and fight with all they've got. And they have a really tough fixture ahead against Juventus away. Juventus have been in a great shape for some weeks. Napoli will have a hard time in this game but it is not impossible to get a win for them.
Only one win in last five games is surely concerning but luckily help come from half time of the season. I'm sure they will pick themselves up and get good results in second half of the season. The most positive thing about Napoli is that they beat their direct opponents. You talk like they are out of top four, they are still one of the biggest contenders of championship. There is only seven points difference with Inter. Inter started a win streak after they beat Napoli. Napoli started the season with a win streak. They have very similar form, just in different times.
Indeed, everything is still ahead and everything can change dramatically in the second round, because I cannot believe that Inter's winless streak will continue until the end of the season and the club will not experience difficulties at a certain stage. If Napoli can cope with its problems and starts to gain points steadily again, it will be a serious contender not just for a place in the Champions League, but also a contender for the Scudetto. The clubs will have to play each other once more in the second round and this is another chance to reduce the gap in points. As they say, all winning streaks tend to end, and defeats can serve as the beginning of a new winning streak Wink
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December 29, 2021, 12:17:47 AM
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Ronaldo arrival did not really have a significant impact on Juventus for the last 3 years, and even Ronaldo has actually failed to bring Juventus to be able to get a trophy in the Champions League, it's true as you said, so far Juventus have been able to show a pretty good performance in the league and champions league before the arrival of ronaldo
It's not true.

Ronaldo has his own issues because he joined Juventus when he was no longer young but to be fair, he still did his job very good by scoring lots of goals for Juventus. If you can find any player in Juventus score more goals in one season than Ronaldo in a few seasons before and after his appearance in Turin, tell me please.

Then Juventus have their issues too that are showing even in this season. Their squad are ageing and it seems their peak is with Max before the participation of Ronaldo. After Max, Juventus did not have good stability in coach position and it is harmful for their general performance. Ronaldo was affected by it as well.
I admit that if Ronaldo managed to break the record as the Juventus player who scored the most goals in the last decade, it is true that Ronaldo managed to help Juventus win the Copa and Italian League, but what we need to remember, if ronaldo is signed in order to bring Juventus to be able to win the Champions League which they haven't had since 1996, but precisely after the arrival of ronaldo, juventus in 3 consecutive seasons failed to reach the quarter-finals and worse was stopped by a non-seeded club, even though before Ronaldo came, Juventus twice advanced to the final, once stopped in the final last 16 and once in the quarter-finals in the last 4 years.
Ronaldo was signed by Juventus in the 2018 season and obviously at that time Ronaldo performance and stamina was still extraordinary and I don't think he was too old at that time, I think Ronaldo presence at Juventus has actually changed Juventus style of play all this time and as a coach, Allegri certainly has did a good job so far at juventus, and it's precisely the departure of ronaldo that will make stability better in my opinion.


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