Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[Plaguedeath]

	CALCIATORE	Gol	Presenze	Rigori
1	Marko Arnautovic	6	9	2
1	Ciro Immobile	6	9	1
3	Paulo Dybala	5	8	1
3	Dusan Vlahovic	5	8	1
3	Beto	5	9	0
3	Khvicha Kvaratskhelia	5	9	0
7	Gabriel Strefezza	4	7	1
7	Boulaye Dia	4	8	0
7	Rafael Leao	4	8	0
7	Olivier Giroud	4	9	1
7	Teun Koopmeiners	4	9	2

first 4 guys are from
Milan, Lazio, Roma, Juventus

my beloved Juventus suffering in this period, i wait a reborn!

There's a news if Arsenal are still interested to sign Dusan Vlahovic in the early of 2023 despite Vlahovic have been refuse to join Arsenal and choose Juventus at few months before. Looking at the classement it seems hard for Juventus to achieve top 3 since there's many clubs are good especially Napoli. No one predict Napoli would become top 1 on Serie A, but they proving us now.

I must say Vlahovic have carrying Juventus even though they're still on 8th position, if he's leave Juventus, I couldn't imagine Juventus's performance without him.

[masulum]

Changing coaches may be a major problem because they do not match the strategy given by the new coach which ultimately makes the players play not according to the rules and not according to the instructions or directions from the coach so that the lack of teamwork that ultimately makes Juventus often get a very embarrassing defeat. Usually Juventus will follow the movement of PSG and match their game but it seems this season they are not able to do that.

Juventus need to learn from Atalanta, because Atalanta have kept Gasperini since 2016 both under difficult circumstances and when they enjoyed the euphoria of playing superbly in the UCL and snatching 3rd place in Serie A in several seasons. Sometimes patience will pay off. Likewise with AC Milan, although Pioli is not considered to be successful in giving the title, in fact he can prove it.

[Davidvictorson]

One of the obstacles Juventus still can't sack Allegri is the severance pay if sacking him is still too high, but I'm not so sure about that.

Sunk-cost fallacy - the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial. This describes the present situation that Juventus is in with Allegri. Furthermore, I think that Vlahovic may be having some regrets about not moving to Arsenal earlier. I ask myself what is going to be the last straw that will break the camel's back for the management of Juventus to sack Allegri.

[tulusikhlas]

Changing coaches may be a major problem because they do not match the strategy given by the new coach which ultimately makes the players play not according to the rules and not according to the instructions or directions from the coach so that the lack of teamwork that ultimately makes Juventus often get a very embarrassing defeat. Usually Juventus will follow the movement of PSG and match their game but it seems this season they are not able to do that.

Juventus need to learn from Atalanta, because Atalanta have kept Gasperini since 2016 both under difficult circumstances and when they enjoyed the euphoria of playing superbly in the UCL and snatching 3rd place in Serie A in several seasons. Sometimes patience will pay off. Likewise with AC Milan, although Pioli is not considered to be successful in giving the title, in fact he can prove it.

Juventus are not alone having a difficult season, we can see the Premier League where the big teams are in difficult circumstances. Even Manchester United have felt this way for years even worse than what Juventus is experiencing now. I think they have to prepare for the future, they have to start by regenerating the players. Because what I see they are recruiting more players who have lost their golden age.

[borovichok]

I felt so pity for AC Milan at the champions League last night against Chelsea for the penalty and red card which I disagree to the referee decisions in giving the red and refusing to go and look at the VAR, and for me that changes the game because you can't play a team like Chelsea in the champions League with one man down, I believe the game would have been a different results if it was not for the red card, and that lost keep them in a very difficult position to qualify from the group now, I think they are going Verona in the league this Sunday.

[arimamib]

Juventus know that if they sack Allegri, they must put the club into hands of a new coach. There is no guarantee that a new coach will be able to sort out this crisis. Allegri has had many seasons in Juventus and he understands about the club deeply. A new coach is not familiar with many of things there. I believe Juventus will give Allegri more time and they will make decision after the World Cup that ends in December.

Before sacking Allegri, Juventus must have the best candidate to fill the position left by Allegri. Every action taken must have careful planning, maybe Juventus are looking for the right coach before they sack Allegri. With Juventus' performance increasingly unclear, Juventus staff will not be able to calm down seeing their team struggling to improve their ranking in the standings. The change of coach is a solution for Juventus to get out of the problems they are facing.

Juventus must reflect on Chelsea who dared to take a stand by sacking Tuchel, after Chelsea squad was led by a new coach, they are now growing and winning victory after victory. Juventus have to do that if they don't want to sink further into the table.

[Jody.Drummer]

Allegri was criticized by Juventus fans a lot, how could it not be, Juventus suffered successive defeats which made him still in 3rd position in Group H and this is not a safe position. But even so Allegri is reluctant to resign because resigning is not a solution for him, even Allegri is increasingly eager to make positive changes for Juventus.
Allegri said the spirit to rise was so passionate within him. He will pass it on to the players so that Juventus can return to being a winning team.
Juventus' appearance in the Champions League this season has been in the spotlight of the fans. the article, Paul Pogba et al have only won one win from four matches and the rest ended in defeat.

how can juventus fans not be angry, it was haifa's first win in UCL since 2002. If Allegri is indeed a big-hearted person, he should resign from Juventus rather than continue to receive harsh criticism from various parties. this week juve have lost 2 times (against milan and haifa). I really feel bad luck when i put my money for juve when they face haifa. Next week Juve will face Torino, I'm tired of believing in Juve if Allegri is still there.

The situation is complicated for Juventus at the moment because they are getting worse while they are not too brave to sack Allegri. What worries Juventus is when they sack Allegri and don't get a coach who can bring them better. It was something they had to consider carefully. Also the money they will spend if they fire Allegri is not a small amount. But on the other hand Allegri could not show progress in the game of his foster children. Actually a coach does not need to say that the spirit of change in him is very big, because it is the duty of a coach.

[KTChampions]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

[Sterbens]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

I don't understand what Juventus are going through at the moment, they don't look like the Juventus I used to see, even they are like a small team. What's even more surprising is that management can't make a decision about what's going on at this point. They should be able to do something that can increase the morale of the players. There seems to be a serious problem that we don't all know about in the current team. They are really embarrassing.

[MAAManda]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

As far as I understand and according to the rumours, Juventus did not sack Allegri because the compensation they had to pay was too big. As we know that Allegri is still under contract with Juventus until June 2025.

In addition, Agnelli also told the media that Juventus' poor performance this season cannot be blamed solely on Allegri, this is a problem for the team and the board of directors, so they will try to find the source of the problem and restore their spirits. Their game against Torino could probably be one that will prove how, and how far they have recovered.

[izsara]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

Juventus' internal problems are really messed up at the moment because indeed they continue to make lots of mistakes and can't be closed one by one.
It's clear now with the results getting worse the trust in Allegri is getting bigger and bigger and this will be a problem of course.
Clown might be the right word for now lol. Instead of fixing the problem they are getting worse with pressure everywhere.

[trendcoin]

I started to feel like Allegri's time is running out at Juventus. The Maccabi Haifa defeat must be a big influence on the board to rethink of their decision about keeping Allegri for long years. They couldn't even defeat a very weak opponent like Maccabi Haifa no matter they play away or home against them. This was another critical match for Juventus to maintain their chance for next round in the Champions League. But now they need a miracle against PSG and Benfica to revert things.

I think that Allegri is likely to get sacked before the end of the first half of the season if bad results keep coming in the Serie A as well.

Juventus have two big problems with the manager. Allegri's contract is really pushing Juventus. If Juventus send him mid-season, who will they replace him with?

I think waiting is the best option for Juventus right now. Maybe if they manage to convince Zinedine Zidane they can make a quick decision about Allegri. Otherwise, I don't think there is anything to rush them. They need to be calmer so they don't make another mistake. I think Juventus are doing the right thing by leaving their decision on Allegri to the end of the season.

[AakZaki]

Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.

It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.

[sayaya17]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

As far as I understand and according to the rumours, Juventus did not sack Allegri because the compensation they had to pay was too big. As we know that Allegri is still under contract with Juventus until June 2025.

In addition, Agnelli also told the media that Juventus' poor performance this season cannot be blamed solely on Allegri, this is a problem for the team and the board of directors, so they will try to find the source of the problem and restore their spirits. Their game against Torino could probably be one that will prove how, and how far they have recovered.

The problems that occur at Juventus are indeed quite complicated in my opinion, I also read some news saying that Juventus, which was going
through a financial crisis, couldn't afford to pay the compensation fee for being able to fire Allegri. It's sad if this is true, even though Juventus is
a big club in Serie A, they should have healthy finances. Maybe because of the pandemic situation and also Juventus, which has not won
the European competition trophy for a long time, this makes Juventus income continues to decline.

We'll see how Juventus perform against Torino, although the quality of Juventus players is better and Juventus performance is also slightly better
than Torino, but due to the poor results Juventus got in the last few games, it makes me doubt Juventus can get a positive result against Torino.
My prediction is that the Torino vs Juventus match will end in a draw, because it is very difficult for Juventus to win in the current state of Juventus
players confidence which is really falling, especially after Juventus were defeated by Maccabi Haifa.

[coinlocket$]

Saturday 15th October
Empoli 14:00 Monza
Torino 17:00 Juventus
Atalanta 19:45 Sassuolo

Sunday 16th October
Inter Milan 11:30 Salernitana
Lazio 14:00 Udinese
Spezia 14:00 Cremonese
Napoli 17:00 Bologna
Verona 19:45 AC Milan

Monday 17th October
Sampdoria 17:30 Roma
Lecce 19:45 Fiorentina

No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

[Minor Miner]

Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.

It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.

AC Milan's performance is not bad. They are only 3 points behind Napoli. However, the performance of Inter Milan and Juventus was surprising. They are playing very badly. Inter Milan are now 8 points behind Napoli and Juventus are 10 points behind Napoli. I don't see any chance of these two teams fighting for the title. Inter Milan may want to qualify for the Champions League. On the other hand, I think Juventus will fail to qualify for the Champions League as well. Their performance is very bad now.

[Raflesia]

Lazio, Udinese, and Milan have the same points only Lazio is superior on goal difference. just like you too, I really salute the developments that occur in Lazio, they look amazing. ciro immobile closed Lazio's win by scoring 1 goal in the 91st minute, he is the top scorer in Serie A with 6 goals.

It's surprising to see the ranking of the class so far. This was beyond my guess before the season started. Juventus, Inter, Milan are off the beaten track. They were missing from the top 3.
Even Roma, who has a fairly good transfer, is playing unstable. It seems that the transfer market later should be used to improve the team's situation. Otherwise it is even possible that Inter, Milan, and Juventus will not qualify for the UCL next season.

AC Milan's performance is not bad. They are only 3 points behind Napoli. However, the performance of Inter Milan and Juventus was surprising. They are playing very badly. Inter Milan are now 8 points behind Napoli and Juventus are 10 points behind Napoli. I don't see any chance of these two teams fighting for the title. Inter Milan may want to qualify for the Champions League. On the other hand, I think Juventus will fail to qualify for the Champions League as well. Their performance is very bad now.

It seems that for now Inter want to focus on the Champions League at least until they qualify for the knockout phase because if you look at the performance in the Champions League it is clearly better than Serie A.
On the other hand, maybe their assumption is that in Serie A there is still enough time to catch up but this only applies to Inter because Juventus are currently still the clowns in the Champions League and in Serie A.

[emrecemsan]

There is no problem with Milan's performance in the Serie A now. They have lost only once so far which was against Napoli. I have no doubt that they will stay in the title competition until the end of the season again. Their main target has always been the Serie A title and they finally achieved it after long years. But retaining it this season will be quite difficult for them. Especially Napoli seem to be the biggest threat for now. I haven't seen this much great start from them in the recent years. They are handling the league and CL great at the same time.

In case the CL story ends for Milan in the group stage, they would fully concentrate on the Serie A title. In that case I wonder how good Napoli will be able to deal with them while they are competing in the CL also. Maybe a tighter schedule might upset the balances in time but we'll see.

[sana54210]

Napoli are probably favorable to win the scudetto this time around with their consistency in maintaining their winning streak. Not only in Seria A but also in the champions league, they're topping their table also. The Parthenopeans have good chemistry interms of team work and Luciano Spalleti give recording good results for the team. I don't see anything wrong with the team currently because they can play any big club in the champions league like thrashing Liverpool and Ajax, is a clear fact that they are ready to face anything coming to face them.

We shouldn't be too quick to jump the gun with it. I mean it is clear that they are trying to do the best they could, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see it neither. We may end up seeing them play amazingly, or we may end up seeing them playing horribly as well. This is why it’s easier to figure out what could be done with this in order to make a good return.

Personally Napoli should be focusing on not getting injured, because if they all stay healthy that is a good way of keep winning, being on a roll, they do not have much to focus on, so league should be first priority, if they can keep going like this, it would be amazing, but to do that they need to work hard and never get too confident.

[Z-tight]

No big games this week but the crucial game will be the derby, Juventus Torino.

It will be very crucial for Juventus and Massimiliano Allegri, it feels now like they may have one of their worst season in recent years, but they still have some time to start playing better and turn their bad performances into good results, this derby della Mole is so important for Juventus, though they start that game just a few days after they lost in a disappointing way to Maccabi Haifa in the champions league, so they may not be confident enough. The juventus owners are still backing the coach, but Massimiliano Allegri knows more bad results may leave the owners with no choice but to sack him.