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October 26, 2022, 07:57:50 PM
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Napoli do not need Ronaldo or any player in January, they are perfect the way they are and the best thing they can do for themselves is to continue in this way without bringing any player in, and surely not a great player like Ronaldo, because it is hard to manage big players, and the coach may run into problems as he tries to manage Ronaldo, just the way Erik is having many problems managing Ronaldo. I have just seen a statement from Napoli that they would not be buying any player in January, so that has to be the end of this rumor, Ronaldo may not leave United in January, not because he does not want to leave, but because there is nobody to buy him.
Where do these rumors about the departure of Ronaldo from Manchester United come from? Actually, they would not mind selling Ronaldo, but there are simply no buyers. In fact, ten Hag said that there are no problems with Ronaldo, he trains with the main team, apparently the conflict has been resolved, but the question remains: does the team really need Ronaldo now? They have Antony, Rashford young guys that ten Hag will focus on because this is the future of the team.

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October 26, 2022, 08:12:36 PM
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Ronaldo will be welcome at Napoli, but does Napoli need that at the moment? Playing and performing better than they do now is actually unimaginable, and with a player like Ronaldo in a team, the strategy will also have to be partly adjusted.
Napoli do not need Ronaldo or any player in January, they are perfect the way they are and the best thing they can do for themselves is to continue in this way without bringing any player in, and surely not a great player like Ronaldo, because it is hard to manage big players, and the coach may run into problems as he tries to manage Ronaldo, just the way Erik is having many problems managing Ronaldo. I have just seen a statement from Napoli that they would not be buying any player in January, so that has to be the end of this rumor, Ronaldo may not leave United in January, not because he does not want to leave, but because there is nobody to buy him.
This is just a rumor that is being exaggerated because regardless, there has been no statement from both parties. But indeed until now there have been some rumors that indeed say that Manchester United are now trying to offer Ronaldo to several clubs and maybe if Napoli really want they can join but of course this will disturb their stability I think and I don't think Ronaldo will re-enter Serie A again.

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October 26, 2022, 08:20:34 PM
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It's quite interesting to wait for his return to the Serie A League, because as I know that Napoli and Juventus are sworn enemies, in recent years, we know they are always fighting for the Scudeto at a time when coach Maurizio Sarri was still riding Napoli at that time, and Juve with the current coach, Honestly this will make Juventus fans will be hurt if the move is true..
What to expect from Ronaldo by Spalletti? I don't think Ronaldo will make much of an impact, maybe it will only add to Spalletti a new problem. His nature at Man United should know what will happen if he brings in Ronaldo.
I think it will be more trouble than profit. If Ronaldo's price is still expensive, of course it will not be worth the gain. I think Napoli are better looking for a talented young forward. It's not buying an old player who is starting to lose his best strength.
The only real impact comes from adding fans to Napoli and making his Souvenirs or Jersey sales increase other than that it may be a little impact that will be felt.

Napoli are currently in good form and don't let this be a bit divided because it is the presence of Ronaldo which is considered extraordinary because this could boomerang for them.
Not to say Ronaldo is a bad player because we know what quality he is, but can he really be there and immediately become good at Napoli? Of course this can be a double edged sword.

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October 26, 2022, 10:35:18 PM
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Napoli do not need Ronaldo or any player in January, they are perfect the way they are and the best thing they can do for themselves is to continue in this way without bringing any player in, and surely not a great player like Ronaldo, because it is hard to manage big players, and the coach may run into problems as he tries to manage Ronaldo, just the way Erik is having many problems managing Ronaldo. I have just seen a statement from Napoli that they would not be buying any player in January, so that has to be the end of this rumor, Ronaldo may not leave United in January, not because he does not want to leave, but because there is nobody to buy him.
Where do these rumors about the departure of Ronaldo from Manchester United come from? Actually, they would not mind selling Ronaldo, but there are simply no buyers. In fact, ten Hag said that there are no problems with Ronaldo, he trains with the main team, apparently the conflict has been resolved, but the question remains: does the team really need Ronaldo now? They have Antony, Rashford young guys that ten Hag will focus on because this is the future of the team.
Yep, there are some rumors about this but not from fans but from United who now seem to have intended to let Ronaldo go especially with the condition of his current relationship with the coach.
But I didn't find any big news about Napoli even though there was some news but this is just an amalgamation and interest from last season's transfer windows.

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October 26, 2022, 11:14:40 PM
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It wouldn't be a very smart move for Napoli to sign Ronaldo I think.

Because there is no need for spending a lot of money for Ronaldo's salary for Napoli. They must already be contented with their current strikers and especially Osimhen of course. I don't think that there is any meaning in spending that much money for a player who will be likely to be in the subs mostly. It wouldn't be easy for Ronaldo to have much chance in the starting eleven of important games. But maybe it is already enough for Ronaldo to be a part of the team just because they are in the Champions League.

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October 27, 2022, 01:04:15 AM
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This is just a rumor that is being exaggerated because regardless, there has been no statement from both parties. But indeed until now there have been some rumors that indeed say that Manchester United are now trying to offer Ronaldo to several clubs and maybe if Napoli really want they can join but of course this will disturb their stability I think and I don't think Ronaldo will re-enter Serie A again.
I think if Ronaldo back to Serie A especially Napoli will have no impact on the club because his prestige is not soo good as he moves to the Premier league ago. Now, he seems to try to find in new escape, but in this case, the new club is like playing a bet if want him back. So, Napoli must think back for wholeness of the club, they must know what his value is.

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October 27, 2022, 03:04:40 AM
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Empoli will not be too burdensome for Atalanta even though the Atalanta players also do not underestimate the Empoli team, because this season there have been several examples where teams that are considered trivial have overwhelmed teams that are considered strong so that the results are unexpected. But in this case I am also more confident that Atalanta will get full points when competing at Empoli.
Empoli are not ahead in this match, although Atalanta can't underestimate them, Empoli are 12th in the standings collecting 11 points, this is enough to make Atalanta less troublesome against them, their last three records in previous matches are bad, lost two and won one.
Although Atalanta will travel to Empoli, it doesn't look like a difficult match for Atalanta to get full points.

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October 27, 2022, 04:38:07 AM
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He is definitely not a legend for Juventus Turin. If that is called a legend, then what would he be for Real Madrid?
Ronaldo score hundreds of goal for Real Madrid and won 3 Champions League with Real. I am sure he deserves to be called as a legend in Real Madrid. Even you dislike him, you can not deny his contributions and achievement there.

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Ronaldo is trying with everything he can to get back into the Champions League for the season. Also if he seeks to extend his trophy collection, Napoli would make a lot of sense. The question is whether Ronaldo really is the fit Napoli could even be looking for. They are playing a perfect season so far. Now if you get Ronaldo on board, it also means you get potential trouble on board. Or they decide to let him play anyway no matter what... But I don't like that concept. He won't come as a backup, meaning that Napoli must kick someone from their first eleven which so far functions perfectly fine.
Napoli is a risky choice for Ronaldo. They are playing well in both Champions League and Serie A but they don't have enough experience to win titles. What will happen if Ronaldo joins them, and shortly after that, Napoli will  be beaten in 1/16 round? Ronaldo is not seeking to join a club like this if he can have better choices.

Likely Chelsea, according to rumor, are considering to sign with Ronaldo. It is the best choice for Ronaldo in this season but will he take it? If he joins Chelsea, he will have to play against Manchester United.

Ronaldo won four Champions League titles with Real Madrid, just to get you back up to date. As a Ronaldo fan you could have known better.

I also suggest to put more effort into reading my post. The rhetoric I used actually implied that if he is a legend for Juventus (which I disagree with), then what would he be for Real Madrid? More than a legend obviously. I wonder what comes after a legendary status.

Do me a favor and don't make conclusions that are factually wrong. Nowhere did I state that I dislike Ronaldo. Any conversation is more fun if people to stick to what has actually been written.

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October 27, 2022, 06:02:10 AM
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Napoli are doing very well at the moment and they don't feel like Ronaldo. Moreover, it is no longer the Ronaldo who used to be in top form, the years have also started to count for him. Juventus could really use heem, maybe he should talk to the Juventus board again. They are in a very deep valley and a player like Ronaldo can get them out in principle. Same did Zlatan with AC Milan. That was very succesfull.

Yes, Napoli are in a good position to embrace this Italian league title because their performance so far showed that this season will favour them. I don't think, Napoli need player like cristiano Ronaldo in their team before they can win this title, because there are many strikers in Napoli who play more than cristiano Ronaldo in this season, which Napoli coach will not accept cristiano Ronaldo with his age into the team. Juventus coach will be very happy to welcome him back to the team because he has a good record with Juventus that will make their coach to consider him to join the team.

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October 27, 2022, 06:22:49 AM
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Ronaldo will be welcome at Napoli, but does Napoli need that at the moment? Playing and performing better than they do now is actually unimaginable, and with a player like Ronaldo in a team, the strategy will also have to be partly adjusted.
Napoli do not need Ronaldo or any player in January, they are perfect the way they are and the best thing they can do for themselves is to continue in this way without bringing any player in, and surely not a great player like Ronaldo, because it is hard to manage big players, and the coach may run into problems as he tries to manage Ronaldo, just the way Erik is having many problems managing Ronaldo. I have just seen a statement from Napoli that they would not be buying any player in January, so that has to be the end of this rumor, Ronaldo may not leave United in January, not because he does not want to leave, but because there is nobody to buy him.

I quite agree with you. Ronaldo is a commercial operation, rather than a strategic one.
Also introducing another player to an already functioning team could alter the balance, so you go back to the "forming" and "storming" state of the team.
Nothing more wrong.

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October 27, 2022, 06:59:23 AM
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Empoli will not be too burdensome for Atalanta even though the Atalanta players also do not underestimate the Empoli team, because this season there have been several examples where teams that are considered trivial have overwhelmed teams that are considered strong so that the results are unexpected. But in this case I am also more confident that Atalanta will get full points when competing at Empoli.
Empoli are not ahead in this match, although Atalanta can't underestimate them, Empoli are 12th in the standings collecting 11 points, this is enough to make Atalanta less troublesome against them, their last three records in previous matches are bad, lost two and won one.
Although Atalanta will travel to Empoli, it doesn't look like a difficult match for Atalanta to get full points.

Their last three previous match records were the same with a loss, win and draw, and for their last three head to head records they were also at least equal to Empoli winning, Atalanta winning and then drawing.
With a record like this of course Empoli can't be underestimated at all and their head to head record is at least a draw for them to dominate, but what's interesting about their head to head is to get the win by way of an away match.

If this trend can still happen again in this match, then of course Atalanta will win because considering their performance so far, of course Atalanta do have a better chance to win.
But even though Empoli can play well I'm sure Empoli still can't beat Atalanta this season, but Empoli can still target for a draw because Atalanta will also certainly still strengthen its current position because Atalanta lost by Lazio in the previous match.


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Napoli are doing very well at the moment and they don't feel like Ronaldo. Moreover, it is no longer the Ronaldo who used to be in top form, the years have also started to count for him. Juventus could really use heem, maybe he should talk to the Juventus board again. They are in a very deep valley and a player like Ronaldo can get them out in principle. Same did Zlatan with AC Milan. That was very succesfull.

Yes, Napoli are in a good position to embrace this Italian league title because their performance so far showed that this season will favour them. I don't think, Napoli need player like cristiano Ronaldo in their team before they can win this title, because there are many strikers in Napoli who play more than cristiano Ronaldo in this season, which Napoli coach will not accept cristiano Ronaldo with his age into the team. Juventus coach will be very happy to welcome him back to the team because he has a good record with Juventus that will make their coach to consider him to join the team.

But somehow according to some sources I got that Napoli really wanted to sign Ronaldo, I'm not sure Napoli really needed Ronaldo. Because I think, Ronaldo will only be an obstacle for the gameplay that has been applied to the Napoli team completely will stop if Ronlado becomes their squad. Because when Ronaldo enters the match, automatically all the passes will only focus on Ronaldo, while Ronaldo will get tight guard by the opponent's defense and this will make deadlocks will often occur.

If Napoli just want to increase merchandising sales, I don't think it's necessary to spend a lot of money just to sign Ronaldo. Because it would be better for them to consistently win the title, at least with an achievement it will also increase merchandise sales and will also increase their income if they can indeed win the Serie A title and shine in the Champions League.

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October 27, 2022, 08:08:26 AM
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Empoli will not be too burdensome for Atalanta even though the Atalanta players also do not underestimate the Empoli team, because this season there have been several examples where teams that are considered trivial have overwhelmed teams that are considered strong so that the results are unexpected. But in this case I am also more confident that Atalanta will get full points when competing at Empoli.
Empoli are not ahead in this match, although Atalanta can't underestimate them, Empoli are 12th in the standings collecting 11 points, this is enough to make Atalanta less troublesome against them, their last three records in previous matches are bad, lost two and won one.
Although Atalanta will travel to Empoli, it doesn't look like a difficult match for Atalanta to get full points.
Empoli are an inconsistent team in the last 5 matches they did not get positive results while Atalanta now they are 4th in the standings and last week they suffered a defeat against Lazio, I think against Empoli is the time for Atalanta to bounce back.

odds @1.74 for Atalanta's win in this match, I think it's very worth betting considering the strength of both teams I think the risk is small which is worth betting on Atalanta's win.
Regardless, Atalanta must put this to good use because with 1 draw and 1 loss it is clear that they are now thrown into 4th position and if you want to make a breakthrough then this is the right time.

Empoli at this time is a club that can still be said to be good for a mid-table team but in terms of quality it is clear Atalanta should be better but sometimes it is difficult to destroy Empoli's defense when they play at home because of course their supporters can be prisoners for their mental spirit.

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October 27, 2022, 08:25:31 AM
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Empoli at this time is a club that can still be said to be good for a mid-table team but in terms of quality it is clear Atalanta should be better but sometimes it is difficult to destroy Empoli's defense when they play at home because of course their supporters can be prisoners for their mental spirit.
Empoli can be very difficult to win in some of their matches, but the club is not that good, check its home performance and see how the club is. I check Atlanta away performance, 4 win, 1 draw and no loss at all. I do not often go for away club to win a match, but this is a very good one to go for. Atlanta is stronger and also having more chance to win and I guess Atlanta is going to win.

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Empoli at this time is a club that can still be said to be good for a mid-table team but in terms of quality it is clear Atalanta should be better but sometimes it is difficult to destroy Empoli's defense when they play at home because of course their supporters can be prisoners for their mental spirit.
Empoli can be very difficult to win in some of their matches, but the club is not that good, check its home performance and see how the club is. I check Atlanta away performance, 4 win, 1 draw and no loss at all. I do not often go for away club to win a match, but this is a very good one to go for. Atlanta is stronger and also having more chance to win and I guess Atlanta is going to win.
in the next match he will meet Atalanta and it will be a very tough match for Empoli because for sure many of the players are injured and tired, they were beaten by Juventus in the previous match and I Empoli must play defensively and as much as possible to make Atalanta didn't get a goal even though it was very difficult to do because Atalanta's strength had to be taken into account.

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October 27, 2022, 11:38:00 AM
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Don't demonize Ronaldo.
I did not demonize him.

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His troubles at United were mostly due to promises from the club and Ten Hag himself that he was counted on and needed by the team. And immediately from the start he was put on the bench. What is this if not a deception and why should Ronaldo not be outraged?
The drama is bad from three sides.

First Manchester United did not want to release Ronaldo or open with transfer offers. Maybe they did care about income from jersey, ticket sales with Ronaldo's effects.

Second, their coach, Ten Hag did not know what he want from Ronaldo and how he can use Ronaldo but he rejected to let Ronaldo moving to another club. They both promised a lot with Ronaldo in the summer.

Third, Ronaldo was disappointed and reacted badly but he should not blame it all on Manchester United and Ten Hag. He is no longer a young player and his reactions are bad at his age. At least he was given some chances but generally his performance was bad. If he want to get more appearances, he must play better with any chance he gets from Ten Hag

No, do not confuse the sequence of events. First, Ten Hag (and the club) declares that he needs Ronaldo and that he is counting on him. Then there are questions about the current game form and the start of games from the bench. These questions have arisen only because Ten Hag uses a high-pressure system and Ronaldo does not fit into it.
What do you think, when Ten Hag made statements that he needed Ronaldo, he did not know his age? Or did he not know what kind of game scheme he wanted to use at United? You are not that naive.
There is nothing wrong with the player and the formation not matching - for example, Ibrahimovic was fired from Barcelona because of this and there was no talk of Ibrahimovic's bad form back then - he was cool but he didn't fit Guardiola's formation.
In this case, the ratly rat Ten Hag was clearly lying when he made his statements, and I see no reason why Ronaldo should not be outraged.

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October 27, 2022, 12:07:54 PM
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If he goes back to Italy it would be very nice, in any team he goes (except Inter).
what's wrong with inter?  Huh
I also don't think Ronaldo will return to Juventus or go to Napoli, because without Ronaldo, Napoli have played quite well this season so I don't think Napoli want him, maybe he can go to AC Milan or AS Roma.

Inter fans have always accused Juventus fans (including myself) of being thieves and buying matches.
This is a bad thing, it was always and only they who made continuous accusations. Now they lose all the same, nobody buys the games, even though they spend a lot of money.
They are a bottomless hole.

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October 27, 2022, 12:23:20 PM
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Napoli - Sassuolo is going to be the first game of this week. Napoli are shown as the absolute favourite by bookmakers of course. Their odd is not worth betting on also as it is 1.30.

Napoli are still on an unstoppable run and they haven't lost a single game so far in 11 league games. They even added important wins to their series against teams like Milan and Roma recently. This is technically a more comfortable game for them after facing Roma last week. They even had a big dominance against Roma so this should be another similar game for them. Sassuolo might sometimes be a threat to big teams in the league. But I don't see that strength in them this season for now. Maybe both teams to score might be a nice option considering their last 3 head-to-head games.

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October 27, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
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This week Juventus will play against Lecce. Maybe they have not been to their best performance because they are still in a sad state after being eliminated from the champions league. Juventus is still in 8th place, of course that's not a good thing. La Vecchia Signora must win if they want to move up to the top 5 in the Serie A standings.

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October 27, 2022, 12:42:32 PM
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No, do not confuse the sequence of events. First, Ten Hag (and the club) declares that he needs Ronaldo and that he is counting on him. Then there are questions about the current game form and the start of games from the bench. These questions have arisen only because Ten Hag uses a high-pressure system and Ronaldo does not fit into it.
What do you think, when Ten Hag made statements that he needed Ronaldo, he did not know his age? Or did he not know what kind of game scheme he wanted to use at United? You are not that naive.
I think I wrote it clear enough.

Ten Hag probably did not know what he can do with Ronaldo and how to use Ronaldo. He was unsure what he can achieve in Manchester United with available players and thought he can rely on Ronaldo in some matches or some early months of this season. I believe it is what Ten Hag thought even he knew that Ronaldo does not match with his tactics and formation like you said.

I disagree with Ten Hag and disrespect the coach about that too.

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There is nothing wrong with the player and the formation not matching - for example, Ibrahimovic was fired from Barcelona because of this and there was no talk of Ibrahimovic's bad form back then - he was cool but he didn't fit Guardiola's formation.
In this case, the ratly rat Ten Hag was clearly lying when he made his statements, and I see no reason why Ronaldo should not be outraged.
Both Ten Hag and Manchester United should be responsible for this drama too. They wanted to get lot of things from Ronaldo: income, goals and rejected to let him go. Now when they saw that Ronaldo is no longer useful for their club, they are ready to punish him.

Even Ronaldo is responsible for how his negatively reacted recent weeks, Manchester United and Ten Hag actually treated Ronaldo very bad and unfairly.

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October 27, 2022, 12:47:21 PM
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Napoli - Sassuolo is going to be the first game of this week. Napoli are shown as the absolute favourite by bookmakers of course. Their odd is not worth betting on also as it is 1.30.

Napoli are still on an unstoppable run and they haven't lost a single game so far in 11 league games. They even added important wins to their series against teams like Milan and Roma recently. This is technically a more comfortable game for them after facing Roma last week. They even had a big dominance against Roma so this should be another similar game for them. Sassuolo might sometimes be a threat to big teams in the league. But I don't see that strength in them this season for now. Maybe both teams to score might be a nice option considering their last 3 head-to-head games.

@ILuckyGuyI you’re absolutely correct about Napoli’s chances of winning this fixture, and further I believe that they’ll be extra motivated to win as they have a genuine chance of winning the league title this year.

This week Juventus will play against Lecce. Maybe they have not been to their best performance because they are still in a sad state after being eliminated from the champions league. Juventus is still in 8th place, of course that's not a good thing. La Vecchia Signora must win if they want to move up to the top 5 in the Serie A standings.

@rendravolt I’m not sure if Juventus will win, because they’ll be distracted by the fact that they have crashed out of the champions league and to be honest they have not been playing good at all hence wagering against them makes more sense.
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