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January 20, 2023, 10:42:36 PM |
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Juventus were penalized 15 points by the sentence, now the championship can be said to be totally over, do you think it is the right choice or would you have chosen other penalties? I think it's fair as a penalty, even if the championship has never really started for them this year.
at least juventus was not punished and relegated to serie B of course a 15 point deduction is a better punishment even though it was bitter, but it looks like this will be an important lesson for juventus so that this case does not repeat in the future Total chaos in juventus , they even still feel they did nothing wrong and going to go for appeal in the next couple days lol , i am pretty sure the appeal will get rejected and the 15 deduction remain there to put juventus on 10th and even losing the chance to play in european competition. Manipulating the financial accounting are indeed a fatal mistake, they are in a scandal for one more time now.
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January 20, 2023, 10:49:05 PM |
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Juventus will be deducted 15 points because there has been tampering with transfer values of players. So the difference with Napoli is about 25 points. Difficult to catch up. This would also drop them to 11th place in the ranking. This will be a dramatic season for Juventus, who now have to do their best to secure qualification for the EL. They have made a big mess at the club, in every way. Financially but also from a sporting point of view. They have now also suffered serious image damage. Such things can also have consequences for players who now ultimately choose not to move to Juventus.
A big blow after a dramatic recovery and an approach to secure a Champions League spot.. Now back to the 10th place with only 22 points and a minimum of 12 points away from any european competition. Such punishment will make it difficult for the team to recover this season..
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January 20, 2023, 11:04:51 PM |
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The biggest opponent to Napoli is their coach. He is known for underperforming in second part of the season. When he was Inter coach they were always first or near first place until January, and then the bad series started. They deserve it to win until know but lets see if they can show championship mentality.
Don't compare him when he was a manager (coach) of Inter Milan. The situation is very different, now he managed a very good team and this team is quite stable in performance. I am sure he can successfully lead Napoli to be the winner of Serie A this season. As long as there are no key players moving to other teams, I believe Napoli can keep their good performance. IMO, the biggest challenge of Napoli is to defend their players during this January transfer window. It will be a big problem if some key players move to other teams because of an offer of a bigger salary. It's not only when he Inter coach, also happened when he was Roma coach and lost the championship in last games to Inter, when Pazzini scored agains them. I hope they win and he becomes a winner like Ranieri did.
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January 20, 2023, 11:14:08 PM |
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Total chaos in juventus , they even still feel they did nothing wrong and going to go for appeal in the next couple days lol , i am pretty sure the appeal will get rejected and the 15 deduction remain there to put juventus on 10th and even losing the chance to play in european competition.
Manipulating the financial accounting are indeed a fatal mistake, they are in a scandal for one more time now.
Not a single rule exists for the act of selling a player. Juventus got punished because they sold players for an overpriced prize, while not a single 3 parts entity can speak in a 2 person deal. If I want to sell a player for 4 million and you wanna buy, who can tell this is too much money for the player? Noone. In fact, in recent years we got a lot of these trials here in Italy with Inter, and Milan involved and they always said not guilty.
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January 20, 2023, 11:28:07 PM |
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He was the hero of the game and of course this is very good. He still needs adjustments to get his performance back after not playing for quite a while but indeed the one goal he made in this match clearly gives him enormous hope in the future. He is still very young and he can still show back his skills that were lost a year due to healing. Monza played very well and even they could have dominated but it wasn't enough for them in this game.
Juventus were very lucky that Federico Chiesa managed to score a goal so that they won and made Juventus get additional points at the top of the standings. As long as Juventus still have young players like Federico Chiesa, there is still a further victory that Juventus might be able to get in the next match because there is good potential from Federico Chiesa.
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January 20, 2023, 11:31:55 PM |
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He was the hero of the game and of course this is very good. He still needs adjustments to get his performance back after not playing for quite a while but indeed the one goal he made in this match clearly gives him enormous hope in the future. He is still very young and he can still show back his skills that were lost a year due to healing. Monza played very well and even they could have dominated but it wasn't enough for them in this game.
Juventus were very lucky that Federico Chiesa managed to score a goal so that they won and made Juventus get additional points at the top of the standings. As long as Juventus still have young players like Federico Chiesa, there is still a further victory that Juventus might be able to get in the next match because there is good potential from Federico Chiesa. Chiesa is one of their best players and it is expected from him to do the best. For me he is same as Mbappe but didnt come up to that level yet but if he gets more playing time i can see him at that level really soon.
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January 20, 2023, 11:44:49 PM |
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Chiesa is one of their best players and it is expected from him to do the best. For me he is same as Mbappe but didnt come up to that level yet but if he gets more playing time i can see him at that level really soon.
He has to start getting used to it again because we know that Chiesa hasn't played for quite a while so he needs to get used to it again so he can play well again. But with this one goal, it is clear that he hopes to continue to develop properly after a long recovery phase that will soon occur. Hopefully he can return to being the backbone for Juventus when Juventus are currently still in a slightly complicated condition even though their performance has improved.
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January 21, 2023, 12:46:21 AM |
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-snip- this year the Italian championship is very competitive, leaving aside Napoli who are massacring everyone, from second position to seventh position the points of difference are very few, i Yes, it is undeniable that positions in 2 to 6 are very competitive. Moreover, the pin is only very small and adrift. But actually, this will not mean that much if they are still in the top 4 because they still enter the UCL. As for Rome and Atalanta, they must continue to fight so they can take over positions above them so can move up positions. but of course, it won't be easy. so maybe their target is to get into the Champions League. Because if the target is to become the holder of the Serie A trophy, maybe this will be a little more difficult because of the significant difference in points with Napoli.
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January 21, 2023, 01:44:58 AM |
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I was laughing so hard a few month ago when I saw how poorly Juventus is playing and what awful game-style they have after they once again rehired Allegri but now , I'm not laughing anymore because this system of Allegri really works with Juventus as they are back on track for Scudetto which is absolutely insane! If somehow they win tonight against Napoli , they will be only 4 points behind Napoli. For Napoli , this should be the most important game for them and the entire squad should be focus on getting 3 points today or the Serie A title will be much harder for them to obtain and another dream of Napoli as a city to become champions, will be ruined ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . Well, Napoli has built its reputation very well, it has great performance compared to the other teams, even though I'm a fan of Juve, I would like Napoli not to drop too much, because these players get along very well, but I can't deny that before the bad events, this weteam had a lot to rise up with, and I like to give this team an example for all those who are in crisis, if this goes well, both Juve and many teams from other leagues can get ahead, and that's what This team was in very bad shape financially and at the managerial level, but on the field there are no problems except to play as they should, which is fine. What Coppa Italia exit says about Napoli’s title race ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0d1OAD9.png&t=665&c=cpgfX_HEQ30pug) The ecstasy of Napoli’s stunning 5-1 annihilation of Juventus was tempered slightly by a wholly unexpected Coppa Italia defeat against Cremonese that somehow showed what the Partenopei need to be crowned Serie A champions this season, writes Stephen Kasiewicz.
Tears were shed in the aftermath of the round of 16 loss at Stadio Diego Maradona as a vastly altered Partenopei team – which was eventually bolstered by several first-team regulars as substitutes – eventually fell to a huge upset as the Grigiorossi celebrated an unlikely triumph on penalties.
The Coppa Italia was probably not high on the list of priorities for coach Luciano Spalletti who nevertheless expressed his dissatisfaction on a night to forget for the Gli Azzurri. Source: https://football-italia.net/what-coppa-italia-exit-says-about-napolis-title-race/Well everyone or almost everyone has Neapolitan fever! It cannot be denied that this team breathes an air of triumph, for now we cannot deny that it is a dream team, its fans are excited.
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January 21, 2023, 01:45:29 AM |
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He was the hero of the game and of course this is very good. He still needs adjustments to get his performance back after not playing for quite a while but indeed the one goal he made in this match clearly gives him enormous hope in the future. He is still very young and he can still show back his skills that were lost a year due to healing. Monza played very well and even they could have dominated but it wasn't enough for them in this game.
Juventus were very lucky that Federico Chiesa managed to score a goal so that they won and made Juventus get additional points at the top of the standings. As long as Juventus still have young players like Federico Chiesa, there is still a further victory that Juventus might be able to get in the next match because there is good potential from Federico Chiesa. Yeah but it's not pure luck. Chiesa can be considered a very good player owned by juventus but the sad thing is he was absent from the club was almost a year due to the his medical problem. It's good to see that he was coming back again and saving juventus from draw against monza. Juventus didn't need to get into the additional time to win against monza. Chiesa is just like a hero for juventus in match. I kinda feel that if chiesa has not yet fully recovered but glad to see he's coming back
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Chiesa is one of their best players and it is expected from him to do the best. For me he is same as Mbappe but didnt come up to that level yet but if he gets more playing time i can see him at that level really soon.
He has to start getting used to it again because we know that Chiesa hasn't played for quite a while so he needs to get used to it again so he can play well again. But with this one goal, it is clear that he hopes to continue to develop properly after a long recovery phase that will soon occur. Hopefully he can return to being the backbone for Juventus when Juventus are currently still in a slightly complicated condition even though their performance has improved. After suffering a serious knee injury, of course, Chiesa's performance has decreased and it can even be said that last year was a bad season for him, now I think Chiesa has to work hard enough to find his best game again and regain a place in the old madam squad, according to I was lucky enough for Juventus to be able to lowered chiesa as a substitute in that match after they kept trying to find the winning goal throughout the match, even though Juventus and Monza had different levels, but it was quite visible in that match if Juventus had trouble beating Monza.
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January 21, 2023, 03:54:17 AM |
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Chies Juventus were very lucky that Federico Chiesa managed to score a goal so that they won and made Juventus get additional points at the top of the standings. As long as Juventus still have young players like Federico Chiesa, there is still a further victory that Juventus might be able to get in the next match because there is good potential from Federico Chiesa.
The goal that already made by chiesa was making juventus goes to the next round without needed potentially to do penalty against monza. The come back of chiesa made so many juventus fans were feelign happy. Juventus has so many difficult matches in serie a. Im so glad juventus able to go to the next round. It may face a strong team too. a goal that already made by chiesa just like a debt for him after he was break from the team almost 1 year due to the his injury
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Does anyone know about the deduction of 15 points for Juventus, so that Juventus are currently in 10th place with 22 points. At least after I searched on Google I got information about "Juventus received a sanction in the form of a 15 point deduction due to a case of falsifying transfer values and capital gains. The sanction was handed down by the Federal Court of Appeal in a trial in Rome". With this sanction, of course, Juventus are out of the title race this season and I think that is a very regrettable incident, because Juventus have come back to good form at this moment.
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Total chaos in juventus , they even still feel they did nothing wrong and going to go for appeal in the next couple days lol , i am pretty sure the appeal will get rejected and the 15 deduction remain there to put juventus on 10th and even losing the chance to play in european competition.
Manipulating the financial accounting are indeed a fatal mistake, they are in a scandal for one more time now.
Not a single rule exists for the act of selling a player. Juventus got punished because they sold players for an overpriced prize, while not a single 3 parts entity can speak in a 2 person deal. If I want to sell a player for 4 million and you wanna buy, who can tell this is too much money for the player? Noone. In fact, in recent years we got a lot of these trials here in Italy with Inter, and Milan involved and they always said not guilty. Juventus is not a new team in Italy not to know the rules and they know the punishment when any club go against the rule so if they think they are not guilty as they claim, then they should go ahead and launch the appeal but am very sure they can't get away with this case and the deduction of points because this is the main reason behind the resignation of all Juventus board of directors and since their formal chairman Andrea Agnelli is also affected then I think Juventus should accept their fate and focused more to see I they can man it back to the top 4 from their current 10th position moreover they are not the first team to have experience point deduction so they should come clean and accept their wrong doing.
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Does anyone know about the deduction of 15 points for Juventus, so that Juventus are currently in 10th place with 22 points. At least after I searched on Google I got information about "Juventus received a sanction in the form of a 15 point deduction due to a case of falsifying transfer values and capital gains. The sanction was handed down by the Federal Court of Appeal in a trial in Rome". With this sanction, of course, Juventus are out of the title race this season and I think that is a very regrettable incident, because Juventus have come back to good form at this moment.
I think this should be a valuable lesson for Juventus so that it doesn't happen again in the future, of course it is detrimental to the club with the deduction of 15 points, Massimiliano Allegri's task becomes even more difficult. Juventus' target of finishing in the top four at the end of the 2022-2023 Serie A season is also threatened. but Juventus confirmed that they would file an appeal following the 15-point penalty imposed by the Prosecutor of the Italian Football Federation (FIGC).
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Does anyone know about the deduction of 15 points for Juventus, so that Juventus are currently in 10th place with 22 points. At least after I searched on Google I got information about "Juventus received a sanction in the form of a 15 point deduction due to a case of falsifying transfer values and capital gains. The sanction was handed down by the Federal Court of Appeal in a trial in Rome". With this sanction, of course, Juventus are out of the title race this season and I think that is a very regrettable incident, because Juventus have come back to good form at this moment.
It's related to the pluzvalenza case. That's not only the sanction faced by juventus. Juventus directors were also getting sanctioned by the court too. It seems like juventus directors were doing shady things. Juventus' current Sporting Director, Federico Cherubini, faces a ban of one year and four months and Pavel Nedved will be suspended for eight months. Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/serie-a/2023/01/20/63cb020e46163f12908b457f.htmlJuventus has no chance to play in the champion league next season. Im so happy to see that happened and that means a competitor for napoli already wiped out by the court. lol. Napoli will be winning the current season for season.
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As a host Fiorentina have to utilized Torino situations that after spend 4 latest matches without the winning results i think Torino is not in the good shape and although Fiorentina condition also looks similar but at least Fiorentina recent performance has slightly better than Torino and during this season Fiorentina home matches records were quite good that from total 8 matches at their home ground in Serie A Fiorentina only lose twice and it from Inter and Lazio so i assume Torino is weaker than those teams so Fiorentina shouldn't have any problem to earn 3 points from Torino today and if Fiorentina successfully win they can overtake 8th position from Torino
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January 21, 2023, 08:03:53 AM |
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Juventus were penalized 15 points by the sentence, now the championship can be said to be totally over, do you think it is the right choice or would you have chosen other penalties? I think it's fair as a penalty, even if the championship has never really started for them this year.
I saw that on the news last night and still can't believe this penalty for Juventus because the 15 points are a lot for them. Juventus was fighting for the second position in the league and they were even near to reach but after this 15 points penalty, they should pray for reaching the champions cup, and from what I can see in the league this will be hard for them. Also, I'm sure there is a negative atmosphere in Juventus and even between players which can make the situation even harder for them for this season.
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One of the attention getting matches of this match week is Lazio - Milan.
Milan are the favourite side for the win first of all and there is no surprising thing about that. However I don't like Milan's defense in the recent times. It has been so vulnerable recently that it has cost them quite much in their recent matches. They lost even a title chance not a long time ago. Milan should do something about this. Maybe they can sign new defenders or create some new strategies. Pioli has an important responsibility about it. Otherwise Lazio are also one of the productive teams and they can benefit from this situation very well.
Lazio are not in the level of form they were a season or two seasons ago, Milan have a better form this time than Lazio so they have higher probability of winning this match but only if they play very well and take their chances because if they put up an average performance it might just be difficult for them to win comfortably they might even get a surprise loss if they don't be at their best in the game.
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SSC Napoli have to play US Salernitana today and I think it's a similar game as in the cup against US Cremonese that they won't lose on penalties today ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The motivation after the cup defeat is a little lower, but the championship and the Champions League are still there. Salternitana is better than Cremonese, they have already won 4 matches in the league, but none since 7 games. In the last game they let in 8 goals, how will it end today? The coach Nicola Davide was fired after the game and brought back 2 days later. Maybe nobondy understands that. What happens if he loses again today?
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