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certainly Juventus will not stand by and watch, they will take action to appeal this sentence which penalized them by 15 points! on the other hand, I remember that they have been appealing and counter-appealing about Calciopoli for at least 16 years without ever winning a single one. however the punishment apparently will not stop only at the 15 penalty points but there will be other penalties to come
It looks like this investigation started from 2021. During the process to date, I heard the case had been closed and stopped they were acquitted of the alleged capital gains case, but the FIGC prosecutor opened a new investigation based on the findings. Ultimately their current penalties are greater than the FIGC's demands for the team. In addition suspensions for bans on involvement in football management were also imposed on Paratici (2 years 6 months), Agnelli (2 years), Arrivabene (2 years), Cherubini (1 year 4 months), and Nedved (8 months). Source
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juventus is losing in this game, but honestly I preferred not to bet against juventus, even though I knew that their chances of winning were small, as a fan of juventus I feel very sad because I expected us to be in the champions league, but with the decision from the court we lost many points and became a team reduced to nothing mainly because Massimiliano Allegri's style of play we are simply lost I wonder how long we'll continue to be a shitty team, we play to score just a few goals and if we score a lot of goals it's always something unbelievable, so even watching Juventus games makes me lazy ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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January 22, 2023, 09:18:04 PM |
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juventus is losing in this game, but honestly I preferred not to bet against juventus, even though I knew that their chances of winning were small, as a fan of juventus I feel very sad because I expected us to be in the champions league, but with the decision from the court we lost many points and became a team reduced to nothing mainly because Massimiliano Allegri's style of play we are simply lost I wonder how long we'll continue to be a shitty team, we play to score just a few goals and if we score a lot of goals it's always something unbelievable, so even watching Juventus games makes me lazy ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) What an entertaining game between top two Italian sides after having early goal through Lookman at the end of first half Atlanta was struggling with score of 2 - 1 but after the start of second half they have again done good performance and score two quick goals which give them lead of 2 - 3 in this match, but Juventus is also in good shape and having good attack which is helping them for having positive result and Danilo scored third goal for the home side which again bring score at the level of 3 - 3 we have already six goals in this match and 20 minutes left which mean we can expect good entertainment and good end of this match which is important for the home side after deduction of the 15 points by the Italian league authorities for their criminal offense.
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What an interesting match between Juventus and Atalanta. I never believed that Juventus will be able to win against Atalanta with a 2-1 victory after Atalanta pressured them in the early minutes by scoring an early goal. Juventus performance tonight got me wowed cos I wasn't expecting them to win the first half after the disgraceful loss to Napoli by 5 goals to 1.
The current position is now drawn Juventus vs Atalanta 3- 3 The match looks very tough, both of the teams are struggling to get full points in order not to be out of their current position and going to take other other clubs. But, this seems to be quite hard. They have good ball possession and each also strengthens their defense. So, they feel difficulties to attack against. I think that the final result will be still drawn if their match performance is still like this, very tough. Moreover, goal keeper of Atalanta is amazing enough y making many saves during this match whereas Juventus is trying hard to make good shots on target.
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January 22, 2023, 09:38:56 PM |
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juventus is losing in this game, but honestly I preferred not to bet against juventus, even though I knew that their chances of winning were small, as a fan of juventus I feel very sad because I expected us to be in the champions league, but with the decision from the court we lost many points and became a team reduced to nothing mainly because Massimiliano Allegri's style of play we are simply lost I wonder how long we'll continue to be a shitty team, we play to score just a few goals and if we score a lot of goals it's always something unbelievable, so even watching Juventus games makes me lazy ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Atalanta have always played excellent football and it doesn't surprise me at all that at the moment it's a hard-fought match full of goals. Juventus are playing a good game today but obviously the 15 penalty points also weigh heavily on the concentration of players who now have to do everything to climb among the top positions and aspire to at least the European League, let's see how they will react but at the moment a draw is not it's just the best.
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January 22, 2023, 09:44:52 PM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
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January 22, 2023, 09:50:02 PM |
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certainly Juventus will not stand by and watch, they will take action to appeal this sentence which penalized them by 15 points! on the other hand, I remember that they have been appealing and counter-appealing about Calciopoli for at least 16 years without ever winning a single one. however the punishment apparently will not stop only at the 15 penalty points but there will be other penalties to come
It looks like this investigation started from 2021. During the process to date, I heard the case had been closed and stopped they were acquitted of the alleged capital gains case, but the FIGC prosecutor opened a new investigation based on the findings. Ultimately their current penalties are greater than the FIGC's demands for the team. In addition suspensions for bans on involvement in football management were also imposed on Paratici (2 years 6 months), Agnelli (2 years), Arrivabene (2 years), Cherubini (1 year 4 months), and Nedved (8 months). Sourceexactly, the investigation started in May 2021 and was later closed, but in October 2022 it was reopened with a dossier of about 14,000 pages! but it doesn't only concern Juventus, but also Milan, Rome, Atalanta, Sassuolo, so much so that the second part of the investigation concerning these teams is awaited. a large tornado is unleashing on Serie A in my humble opinion
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I don't know maybe the recent bad incident affected Juventus players mentally in a bad way. This might be the reason why they could have even lost the game in Turin. Atalanta got ahead two times in the game but still couldn't make it to the victory. This must be a good result for them anyway. They got one point in an away game against a tough team in the end.
But this is surely not acceptable for Juventus side. They should have been better at defending. Nothing has changed since their huge defeat by Napoli. Hopefully they fix their issues as soon as possible.
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The match against juventus and atalanta have end in draw which the score was 3-3,so the both team go home with 1 1point.i am not surprised by juventus draw because I know it the game will not be easy for them due to current of atalanta.why is it that juventus concede more goals in this two matches played recently, is it that the team defend line is have issue or all this is from the all teams.
I see that Roma won their match today against spezia which make them have chance of staying at fourth position in the table currently,but I don't think they can maintain that top four in table because their next is against Napoli which I never think Roma will have chance of defeating Napoli in their home.
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January 22, 2023, 10:13:03 PM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
Very sad 15 points will be deducted and they are not doubling the points Juventus need to be set at all game's to make European competition next season The appeal should be looked into they can't just deduct those points Six goals is a whole lot of goals
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The match against juventus and atalanta have end in draw which the score was 3-3,so the both team go home with 1 1point.i am not surprised by juventus draw because I know it the game will not be easy for them due to current of atalanta.why is it that juventus concede more goals in this two matches played recently, is it that the team defend line is have issue or all this is from the all teams.
I see that Roma won their match today against spezia which make them have chance of staying at fourth position in the table currently,but I don't think they can maintain that top four in table because their next is against Napoli which I never think Roma will have chance of defeating Napoli in their home.
I thought that when Juventus went from 0-1 to 2-1 already in the first half they would win the game.I never expect Atalanta to come back and even going in advantage 2-3 while Juventus got to 3-3.I was watching the game as I was curious at how Atalanta who had scored a ton of goals in their last games would do here against a Juventus that before losing to Napoli had 5 wins and Atalanta didn't care much got and scored 3 goals in Torino.As I said I was watching the game and Juventus created more chances and honestly for me in my personal opinion they deserved to win. I also don't think Napoli risks to be beaten by Roma at their home,just remember Napoli last game at home,a win 5-1 against Juventus a stronger team than Roma.
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January 22, 2023, 10:39:04 PM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
Once the decision wasn't revoked, Juve has only one choice is to win every game until they could catch the other. Even a draw vs a top team is not acceptable in the current situation. From being in the second place with Milan to the 9th place with Bologna and 3 points far from the 14th place. Awful situation there and pretty much uneven...
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January 22, 2023, 10:48:58 PM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
This shows that Juventus have struggled to maintain their position so as not to lose to Atalanta, Juventus have done their best even though it had to end in a draw, hopefully Juventus can get a win in the next game so that Juventus can return to their best position in the top five of the standings .
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January 22, 2023, 11:49:04 PM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
The turn is far to be over, we have 2 more games coming in Monday and Tuesday.
This shows that Juventus have struggled to maintain their position so as not to lose to Atalanta, Juventus have done their best even though it had to end in a draw, hopefully Juventus can get a win in the next game so that Juventus can return to their best position in the top five of the standings . The team is mentally destroyed, you can't imagine how hard to find yourself in the middle of the standings after doing really a great job and being in the second spot for many rounds, i think being able to score 3 goals in such situation is really good for them
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Juventus can only share points, their situation is very worrying but I hope they can get three points in the upcoming matches serie A. Against Monza this team is also not a tough opponent, although in Serie A they are in good performance this season. Also although Monza in their five matches is unbeaten, but Juventus is a big team it is unacceptable if they only get one points at home.
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I have to say that Sampdoria had another bad season. It is hard to say that they have shown a good struggle for the last 2 seasons. I think relegation is more likely this year. A team that has collected 9 points in 19 weeks will face more difficult and stressful matches in the coming weeks. Therefore, the possibility of making mistakes will be even higher. Roma will have a tough away game but I don't think they will lose. Perhaps the most important match of the day will be between juventus and atalanta. Juventus have 15 points deleted and I see them dropping to 10th place, so they can't afford to lose any more games. If they want to go to the European Cups, they absolutely have to beat such an opponent.
I really want and hope that Juve recovers, I don't know, but it may be my ideas, but after the humiliation that Napoli put them through, the team was very bad, and I think they have not been able to recover from it, from then on the team has not been able to get up, the truth seems pitiful to me to see Juve lose more points because I want to see Juve in the important European competitions, it all depends on whether they can get a good place in the Europa League and They can have a lot of victories, it is in their own hands to be able to get up, I hope it is so, Juve is the value of the Italian teams. Juventus probable lineup for Atalanta clash: Allegri to unleash spectacular trio?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fpfrclmt.png&t=665&c=OQ79thMAkPL4Ww) Despite all the noise outside of the pitch, Juventus players will have to shift their focus towards the pitch, as a tough opponent is making its way towards the Allianz Stadium.
Following the humiliating defeat at the Maradona Stadium, Max Allegri could make some tweaks to his starting formation against Atalanta, all while maintaining the personnel.
According to la Gazzetta dello Sport, Federico Chiesa could make his second start of the campaign, but this time in a more advanced role.
Source: https://www.juvefc.com/juventus-probable-lineup-for-atalanta-clash-allegri-to-unleash-spectacular-trio/
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January 23, 2023, 01:36:53 AM |
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Juventus can only share points, their situation is very worrying but I hope they can get three points in the upcoming matches serie A. Against Monza this team is also not a tough opponent, although in Serie A they are in good performance this season. Also although Monza in their five matches is unbeaten, but Juventus is a big team it is unacceptable if they only get one points at home.
Engaging in sharp or fraudulent practices in any form is very wrong and they deserve to face the penalty if they are guilty. If they are not, we expect them to be vindicated by their appeal and maybe they might get lesser or no punishment. But Juventus are not new to scandals, in 2006 they were relegated to Serie B because of the Calciopoli scandal. It was discovered that the club's managing director Luciano Maggi influenced referees and even had the power to select match officials. They were also stripped of the Seria A title of 2005 and 2006. Many top players left the club, while other like Buffon and Del Piero remained with the club in that difficult period and it just took them a year to return to the Seria A. For now, every match is important to Juventus because they need those points for them to at least have a Europa League slot. They need a European competition because of the cost of running the team. Monza drew their last match against Sassuolo but the former played good football. Their shortcoming is that they usually create fewer goalscoring chances but they have a good midfield. Juventus must ensure the put aside their current challenges and focus on how to win more matches.
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January 23, 2023, 05:14:30 AM |
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I don't know maybe the recent bad incident affected Juventus players mentally in a bad way. This might be the reason why they could have even lost the game in Turin. Atalanta got ahead two times in the game but still couldn't make it to the victory. This must be a good result for them anyway. They got one point in an away game against a tough team in the end.
But this is surely not acceptable for Juventus side. They should have been better at defending. Nothing has changed since their huge defeat by Napoli. Hopefully they fix their issues as soon as possible.
Juventus surely suffered off field issues in this game but still they were lucky to have 1 point from this match because Atlanta were the better team and have fair chance to win this match but captain Danilo's goal was enough to have one point from this match and now do better strategy about next match because with this defense they can't take good results and chance of having European competition's entry for the next season which is currently looking not good for them because 15 points deduction is surely the biggest punishment but still they are lucky to have their place into Serie A after this poor management mistakes which happen in last few years. Now they lost 20 points in last two games which is not recoverable with this current defense and performance which needs good improvement because they surely need to be stick on their target for the future.
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January 23, 2023, 05:17:50 AM |
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Mourinho's sole aim this season is to qualify for the Champions League. And since the start of the season, he has continued to try to stabilize the team. Roma's performance is still quite good. They are consistently performing very well. And I believe Roma players will be able to play well against Spezia. Spezia is not a weak team. So Roma defenders must perform very carefully. Otherwise it will be difficult to get 3 points.
Getting position within top four to be eligible for Champions League is one of biggest aims of Mourinho and Roma in 2022 - 2023 season. I believe Europa League is another big aim of Mourinho and Roma. After winning Conference League last season, they actually want to win a bigger title in Europe, Europa League. Mourinho always has good ability to help his clubs winning titles in Champions League and Europa League. In the past, he helped Porto to win Europa League and Champions League in two continuous seasons so it is not strange if he wins Conference League and Europa League with Roma. The aim in Serie A becomes a little bit more easily after Juventus got a minus of 15 points in Serie A. At least Roma will have one less competitor for top four race in Serie A. I would say Roma and Mourinho should focus on either side. I believe if they focus only on Serie A, they can finish in the top four of the points table and qualify for the Champions League. But it will be tough for them if they want to do well in both Serie A and Europa League. Because Roma's squad is of average quality. Not a very strong squad. There are some strong teams in the Europa League this season. Competing with the likes of Barcelona, Arsenal and Manchester United to win the Europa League title is very difficult. And so Roma should now focus entirely on Serie A. Otherwise there is a possibility of losing their truck.
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January 23, 2023, 05:34:11 AM |
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3-3 in the end was not the result Juventus needed in this situation.
Juventus displayed well in the first half to equalized the goal and still lead the match before the end of the 46 minutes which was a sign that Juventus will win the match with many goals but the match later turned that made Juventus players got weak in the second half. Juventus has more opportunities to score 4 goals in that match but they missed used the opportunities that made the match a draw 3-3 at the end. I believe, Juventus coach has a lot of work to do to improve their players because what Juventus displayed last season is different from what people are seeing in this season.
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